* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Work Session on October 23, 2025.] [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I AM GOING TO CALL THE OCTOBER CHEVROLET TOWN WORK SESSION TO ORDER, AND THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE THE ROLL CALL. UH, I AM HERE, MICHAEL WATSON, MAYOR DELAYING GALLOWAY TOWN ADMINISTRATORS HERE. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER WADE, YOU'RE LINE. UH, PRESENT. GREAT. COUNCIL MEMBER WARD TWO. PRESENT. WARD THREE. PRESENT. WARD FOUR. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER GARCI. ARE YOU ONLINE? ALRIGHT, WE'LL WAIT FOR, OR WE'LL KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER GARIS AND WARD SIX. COUNCIL MEMBER P PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. SEEING SIX ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT, WE HAVE A QUORUM TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. THE FIRST NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE SPRAWL. ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL. THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE PUBLISHED AGENDA. I SEE 15 ITEMS INCLUDING ADJOURNMENT. WE ARE ALREADY THROUGH ONE AND TWO. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE PUBLISHED AGENDA THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE? HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PUBLISHED? MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SECOND. MOTION BY BY THE VICE MAYOR. SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAY NO. ANY ABSTENTIONS. THE MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. THE AGENDA IS APPROVED. ITEM FOUR IS THE TWO GRANT REQUESTS. MR. GALLOWAY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO SPEAK REAL BRIEFLY ABOUT BOTH OF THE GRANT REQUESTS, UH, THAT I WILL HAVE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AND ASK THAT WE MOVE THESE TO THE, UH, TOWN MEETING ONE FOR THE CHEVROLET PARENT RESOURCE CENTER. UH, THEY HAVE APPLIED TO CONTINUE THEIR THANKSGIVING FOOD DRIVE. UM, AND THIS IS AN ANNUAL GRANT THAT THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR IN THE PAST AND HAVE RECEIVED, SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T SUPPORT THEM. UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THAT? COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CPR C'S GRANT REQUEST? HEARING NONE, MR. GALLOWAY. THE NEXT GRANT IS FOR A SL COFFEE HOUSE, WHICH IS A NEW TOWN ORGANIZATION. THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR FUNDS TO HIRE AN A SL INTERPRETER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THEIR MEETINGS. UM, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THEIR MEETINGS AND THEIR MEETINGS CAN BE INCLUSIVE. UM, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH BOTH GRANTS AND, UH, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE AS WELL. VICE MAYOR BRENER. UM, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GARCES HAS ARRIVED ONLINE. EXCELLENT. WELCOME, SIR. UM, THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE GRANT? I ACTUALLY DID. UM, WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET CORRECT. FOR ANY TOWN GROUP TO HIRE AN INTERPRETER, OR IS DID WE REMOVE THAT? I THOUGHT WE DID. DO WE STILL HAVE THAT IN THERE? NO. IT, IT'S STILL THERE. YES. HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND THIS MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT SITUATION. YEAH. BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, THAT OTHER TOWN GROUPS DO NOT HAVE TO APPLY FOR A GRANT FOR LIKE A ONE-OFF MEETING. MM-HMM . THEY CAN ASK THE TOWN TO FUND THAT FROM THAT OTHER BUDGET LINE. CORRECT. GREAT. THAT'S ALL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER GRANT APPLICATION, MR. LEG? HECK, SO THIS GROUP MEETS REGULARLY AND THEIR PROPOSAL IS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, IN ADDITION TO THEIR REGULAR MEETINGS, TWO MEETINGS WHERE THEY MAY NEED [00:05:01] A SL INTERPRETATION. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. THEY MEET QUARTERLY. THEY MEET QUARTERLY FOUR TIMES A YEAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I THINK WE HAVE AGREEMENT TO PUT THIS ON THE NOVEMBER TOWN MEETING CONSENT AGENDA, MR. GALLOWAY. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ITEM FIVE IS THE BUDGET UPDATE, UH, FROM MR. GALLOWAY AND MS. MOCK MAYOR AND COUNSEL. I WILL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. I'LL RETURN THE FLOOR OVER TO, UH, MS. DIANE MOCK, WHO IS THE TOWN ACCOUNTANT SLASH TREASURER. GOOD EVENING. I THOUGHT, UH, THIS EVENING THERE'S TWO THINGS I'D LIKE TO, UH, GO OVER. UM, THE FIRST ITEM, I THINK MR. GALLOWAY HAS SOME, UH, REPORTS FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT. UM, WE CAN LOOK AT THE, UH, LET'S SEE. THE FIRST ONE HE'S PUT UP IS THE BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL, UM, FOR FY 25. UH, THIS IS THE UNAUDITED, UH, REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED JUNE 30TH, 2025. IT IS A, UH, SUMMARY REPORT FOR YOU. UH, THIS EVENING. UH, THE AUDITORS ARE WORKING ON THE, UM, UH, THE REPORTS. AND, UM, SO THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE, UH, WILL BE YOUR FINAL NUMBERS. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, PER THIS PARTICULAR REPORT, YOUR ACTUAL REVENUES FOR THE YEAR ARE 13,060,000, AND YOU HAD BUDGETED FOR 13,843,000. UM, THERE'S MOST OF THE VARIANCES, UH, THAT OCCURRED IN THAT PARTICULAR TOTAL, UM, ARE IN YOUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL, UH, LINE ITEM. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL LINE ITEM HAS TO DO WITH, UH, GRANTS THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED. UM, THERE WERE TWO, UH, LARGE ITEMS THAT WERE BUDGETED FOR THAT DIDN'T COME IN THIS PAST YEAR. ONE OF THEM WAS A $500,000 STATE EARMARK, AND THE OTHER WAS A 1,688,000, UH, FEDERAL EARMARKED. THE REST OF THE REVENUES CAME IN PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT YOU HAD BUDGETED. UH, THE ONE LINE ITEM THAT CAME IN QUITE A BIT OVER, UH, WAS LOCAL INCOME TAX. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT UP, UH, UNDER THE, THE TAX, THE FIRST LINE ITEM THERE, TAXES. UH, BUT THE BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR LOCAL INCOME TAX WAS 1,000,001 AND ACTUAL WAS 1,000,005. UM, MOVING DOWN INTO THE EXPENSE AREA, I HAVE, UM, BROKEN IT DOWN UNDER GOVERNMENT, UH, GENERAL GOVERNMENT, POLICE AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND, UH, ARPA, WHICH IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. UNDER GENERAL GOVERNMENT, THE TOTAL AMOUNT EXPENSE FOR THE YEAR, UH, FOR THE YEAR ENDED WAS 3.691 3,691,000. THE BUDGET AMOUNT WAS 3,000,367. THERE IS A LARGE VARIANCE THERE. AND, UM, MOST OF THAT VARIANCE HAS TO DO WITH THE WAY THAT WE WERE BUDGETING FOR THE SPEED CAMERA PROGRAM. THAT WAS ONE ITEM, UH, THAT HAS CAUSED, UH, THAT PARTICULAR DIVISION, UH, TO BE OVERSPENT. THERE WERE SOME OTHER, WELL, THAT, THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM ITSELF WAS OVERSPENT BY 328,000. SO THAT MAKES UP THE MAJORITY OF THE DIFFERENCE. THERE ARE SOME OTHERS AND UNDER AMOUNTS, BUT, UM, THAT'S THE LARGEST JUST UNDER POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU BUDGETED 3,268,000. THE ACTUAL EXPENSES WERE 3,000,185. SO THAT DEPARTMENT WAS, UM, UNDER BUDGET BY 83,000. UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, YOU BUDGETED 8,065,000. ACTUALLY, THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES ARE 9,000,925. UH, THAT IS, UM, BASICALLY THE BIGGEST VARIANCE IS CAUSED BY THE, UH, ELY BUILDING, UM, WAS NOT. UM, LET'S GO THROUGH, LEMME GO TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA SO THAT I CAN GIVE YOU SOME. UH, [00:10:01] THERE, THERE ARE A COUPLE LINE ITEMS IN THAT DEPARTMENT THAT DID NOT HAVE, UH, BUDGETS. THE BIGGEST OF THOSE IS THE ELY BUILDING. AND 4.2 MILLION WAS SPENT LAST YEAR ON THE BUILDING ITSELF. SO IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION, THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT BE UNDER BUDGET, EXCUSE ME, OVER BUDGET. I SAID THAT INCORRECTLY OVER BUDGET. UM, ARPA, YOU SPENT 2,117,000. THAT WAS THE EXACT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT NEEDED TO BE SPENT BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2024. AND THAT WAS FULLY EXPENSED OUT THAT PROGRAM. UM, SO THE TOTAL EXPENSES FOR THE YEAR ARE 18,920,000, AND THE BUDGETED AMOUNT WAS 14 MILLION 7 0 1. AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE LINE ITEM THAT WAS, UM, THE BUILDING THAT WAS BUDGET THAT SPENT $4 MILLION WITH NO BUDGET DECIDED. SO THE DEFICIT FOR THE YEAR IS 5,859,000. YOU BUDGETED A DEFICIT OF 8 58. NOW WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE FUND BALANCE, AND THESE NUMBERS, I THINK WILL MAKE A LITTLE MORE CENTS TO YOU. THE NEXT REPORT WILL LOOK AT, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT, UM, 5 MILLION WAS FUNDED. UM, THIS PARTICULAR REPORT IS WHAT I ANTICIPATE YOUR FUND BALANCES TO LOOK LIKE AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2025. UM, WE START WITH JUNE 30TH OF 24. UNDER THE FIRST COLUMN IS ARPA. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT YOUR FUND BALANCE WAS 1,400,000. YOU SPENT 2.1 MILLION, UM, BUT YOU HAD REVENUE OF $706,000. SO IF YOU TAKE THE MILLION FOUR, THAT FUND BALANCE YOU STARTED WITH, PLUS THE REVENUE OF 706,000 PLUS EXPENDITURES, THAT FUND BALANCE NOW IS ZERO. IT'S FULLY, FULLY SPENT OUT. SO THAT PARTICULAR RESTRICTED FUND BALANCE IS NOW COMPLETED. THE NEXT COLUMN IS FOR HIGHWAY USER REVENUE. WE STARTED WITH A FUND BALANCE OF 310,000. YOU RECEIVED REVENUE DURING THE YEAR OF 337,000, AND YOU'VE SPENT 63,000. SO NOW YOUR FUND BALANCE IS 583,000 TO BE CARRIED FORWARD TO, UM, FUTURE PROJECTS HAVING TO DO WITH HIGHWAY AND STREETS AND ROADS. THE NEXT COLUMN IS THE ELY BUILDING. WE HAD A FUND BALANCE LEFT OF THE, UH, MONEY THAT YOU HAD FROM YOUR, UM, LOAN, YOUR BOND LOAN OF 5,069,000. YOU SPENT 4.2 MILLION LEAVING A BALANCE OF 808,000 TO BE USED IN FY 26. THE FOLLOWING OF THE FOURTH COLUMN IS UNRESTRICTED. THE UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WAS 5.6 MILLION. YOU HAD REVENUE OF 12,016,000, AND YOU HAD EXPENDITURES OF 12,478,000. THIS NOW LEAVES YOU A BOND BALANCE OF 5,142,000. THE DEFICIT IN THE, UM, UNRESTRICTED FOR THE YEAR WAS $462,000. YOU ACTUALLY HAD BUDGETED FOR AN $858,000 DEFICIT. UM, SO THIS IS, YOU DIDN'T NEED AS MUCH FROM THE UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE AS YOU HAD BUDGETED FOR. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET FOR FY 25, IT SHOWED THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO BE IN THE WHOLE 858,000. UM, SO THIS IS, THIS SHOWS YOU HOW, UH, YOUR JUNE 30TH, 2025 FUND BALANCES SHOULD LOOK. UM, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT LITTLE REPORT, I I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE THE CASH BALANCES ARE. UH, AT THIS POINT, WE HAD RECONCILED THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, AND THERE WAS 4,985,000 IN THE BANK. NOW SINCE THEN, YOU'VE RECEIVED A VERY LARGE DEPOSIT. UM, IN OCTOBER, YOU RECEIVE, UH, YOUR, UM, LARGEST DEPOSIT FOR, UH, REAL PROPERTY TAXES. UM, AND THAT DEPOSIT WAS MADE, UH, IN THE FIRST PART OF OCTOBER, OCTOBER 10TH. [00:15:01] AND IT WAS 2 MILLION, UH, FROM AROUND 2,800,000. SO YOUR FUND, YOUR CASH BALANCE BALANCES IS BACK UP. UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, UH, MR. GALLOWAY ASKED ME TO, UH, SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT, UH, WOULD BE THE FY 26. HOW DOES THAT LOOK? UH, I DON'T HAVE A, A REPORT FOR YOU TO, TO REVIEW THIS EVENING, BUT, UH, I WILL NEXT, UM, NEXT MEETING. BUT THIS PARTICULAR PERIOD OF TIME, THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF REVENUES AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, BECAUSE AS I SAID, THE LARGEST DEPOSIT COMES IN FROM REAL ESTATE TAXES IN OCTOBER. SO REVENUE IS, IS, UM, TENDS TO BE PICKING UP STEAM AS WE GO ALONG. UH, I REVIEWED THE EXPENSES. MOST OF THE EXPENSES LOOK, UM, OKAY AT THIS POINT, A LOT OF THEM SHOULD BE ABOUT 25% OF THE BUDGET, AND THEY ARE THE LARGEST EXPENSES BEING PAYROLL. MOST ALL OF THOSE ARE 25% OF THE BUDGET IN AMOUNTS. UM, WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT, UH, HAVE ALREADY COME IN THAT ARE BIG NUMBERS LIKE INSURANCE. UM, SO THE, THEY'VE BEEN FULLY, UH, PAID OUT FOR THE YEAR. UH, SO ALL IN ALL, I THINK THE 26TH, UH, BUDGET TO ACTUAL, UH, LOOKS OKAY AT THIS POINT. UM, I'LL GIVE YOU AN OCTOBER REPORT, UM, AT POSSIBLY THE NEXT MEETING. THEN AGAIN, UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER THIS EVENING? UH, I'LL TAKE THE FIRST ONE. I GUESS I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON FY 25. UM, LOOK, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S, I MEAN, THE BOTTOM LINE IS GOOD NEWS. I'LL SAY, UM, DEFICIT WAS ROUGHLY HALF, UH, THE, OF WHAT WE HAD AGREED TO. UH, SO THAT'S GOOD. UH, MY TWO QUESTIONS ARE WHY, IF MAYBE YOU, YOU TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT WHY WAS INCOME OFF BY 7 82 AND WHY WAS GENERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING UP BY 3 24? OKAY. UM, GENERAL INCOME, UH, WAS OFF BY, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE SUMMARY, UH, BUDGET TO ACTUAL, UH, YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO LET ME LEMME GO BACK TO THAT REPORT. OKAY. SO THE FIRST ITEM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, THIRD ITEM DOWN INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES, UH, THE ACTUAL IS 2,458,000. THE BUDGETED AMOUNT WAS 4,105,000. SO THAT IS AN UNFAVORABLE VARIANCE OF 1,647,000. THAT STEMS REALLY FROM, FROM TWO, TWO ITEMS. UM, THERE WAS IN 20 FY 25 UNDER INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE, THERE WAS A BUDGETED LINE ITEM FOR FEDERAL EARMARK OF 1,688,000. AND THERE WAS ALSO A STATE EARMARK OF 500,000 THAT YOU WERE ANTICIPATING POSSIBLY HAVING AN FY 25. NEITHER ONE OF THOSE PARTICULAR AMOUNTS WERE RECEIVED AND NEITHER ONE OF THOSE PARTICULAR AMOUNTS, UM, MONEY WAS SPENT AGAINST. UM, DELA REMIND ME WHAT THE 1.688 WAS FOR, UM, LET'S SEE, LET ME LOOK AT THE EXPENSES AND I'LL PROBABLY TELL YOU. UM, IT WAS A, A PROJECT. OKAY? IT WAS STORM WATER CONTROL. THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT HAD BEEN BUDGETED FOR, FOR STORM WATER CONTROL OF 1,688,000. UH, NO MONEY WAS SPENT THERE AND NO MONEY WAS RECEIVED THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING, WHEN YOU JUST LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR AREA, A, UM, A DEFICIT OR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, YOUR REVENUES DON'T EQUAL WHAT YOU BUDGETED FOR BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO GRANTS. NOW, [00:20:01] YOU ALSO ASKED ABOUT, UM, GENERAL GOVERNMENT. OKAY. SO WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO THERE, IF I LOOK AT THE DETAIL OF GENERAL GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE, MOST OF THE DIVISION, UH, LINE ITEMS ARE, UM, UH, THERE'S SOME ITEMS THAT ARE OVER BUDGET, SOME UNDER BUDGET. THE ONE THAT IS OVER BUDGET, THE LARGEST IS WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS NON-DEPARTMENTAL MISCELLANEOUS. IT WAS BUDGETED FOR 997,000. AND ACTUALLY WAS, WHAT WAS SPENT WAS 1,345,000. UH, THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS WHERE THE SPEED CAMERA AND THE RED LIGHT CAMERA IS BUDGETED. SO IF YOU RECALL FROM PREVIOUS, UM, DISCUSSIONS, WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THE SPEED CAMERA IS COSTING MORE THAN WE ANTICIPATED WHEN THE BUDGET WAS PREPARED. SO THE SPEED CAMERA EXPENSE THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR IN FY 25 WAS 600,000. WE ACTUALLY HAD 928,000 IN EXPENDITURES. SO SPEED CAMERA, JUST AS A SUMMARY FOR SPEED CAMERA FOR YOU, UM, WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GET ABOUT 940,000 POSITIVE REVENUE FROM SPEED CAMERA AND FY 25, WHEN IN REALITY YOU ONLY GOT ABOUT 510,000. SO THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM DID NOT PRODUCE THE NET REVENUE THAT WAS ANTICIPATED WHEN THE BUDGET WAS, UM, UH, FORMULATED. THANK YOU FOR THAT. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YOU'RE GOOD COUNSEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE TREASURER, MR. WADE? THAT WAS ON A, THAT WAS ON A FIVE 10 RIGHT ITEM REGARDING SPEED CAMERAS? CORRECT. OKAY. YEP. YEP. VICE MAYOR. UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK MS. MOCK FOR, UM, HER SKILL IN EXPLAINING ALL THESE NUMBERS, BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM WITHOUT THAT CONTEXT, BECAUSE OF THE ELY BUILDING, IT LOOKS, UH, DIRE, IT LOOKS LIKE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF, OF, UH, SORT OF ISSUES. UM, BUT I'M REALLY, UH, PROUD OF STAFF AND GRATEFUL TO STAFF THAT WE CAME IN, UM, SO CLOSE TO WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BUDGETED AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN YOU SORT OF DISREGARD THE ELY BUILDING. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR EXCELLENT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND MANAGEMENT, AND, UH, YEAH, LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER POSITIVE, GOOD AUDIT. GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS, COULD I ASK A QUESTION? OOPS. YES. UM, OF COURSE, I WANTED TO, UH, KNOW IF THIS PARTICULAR FORMAT THAT I PRESENTED TONIGHT IS A GOOD FORMAT FOR YOU. UM, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET, UH, THE BUDGET IS VERY DETAILED AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT DETAIL TOO. BUT THIS WAS MORE JUST LIKE A SUMMARY OVERVIEW FOR YOU. AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW YOU FELT ABOUT THAT PRESENTATION, IF, IF YOU FELT THAT WAS SUFFICIENT IN THE FUTURE OR HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT. I THOUGHT BOTH WERE GREAT. DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE FEEDBACK? YEAH, I MEAN, I THOUGHT THE BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL WAS GREAT, BUT ALSO THE OTHER FUNDS, WHICH I DON'T FOCUS ON AS MUCH. I FOCUS, I TEND TO FOCUS ON THE UNRESTRICTED. I NEED TO FOCUS ON ALL OF THEM. SO I THOUGHT HAVING THE, I GUESS IT'S NOW IT'S STILL FI FOUR FUNDS BECAUSE THE, INCLUDING THE LY BUILDING WAS USEFUL. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MR. LELO, YOU HAD A QUESTION? UM, YES. I SORT OF HAVE A, A TWO POINT QUESTION, AND IT COMES BACK TO AGAIN, THE, THE FEDERAL GRANT THAT WAS, I GUESS NOT REALIZED OR WHATEVER. SO YOU, YOU SAID IT WAS RELATED TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THE 1,688,000, UH, REVENUE THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR, THERE WAS ALSO AN EXPENDITURE LINE ITEM BUDGETED FOR EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT. AND IT HAD TO DO WITH STORM WATER. YES. OKAY. SO THEREFORE, THE EXPENSE LINE UNDER STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, WHICH WAS ALSO OVER [00:25:01] BUDGET BY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD BUDGETED FOR $2,000, BUT YET IT WAS OVER BY $376,000. SO WAS THAT A SEPARATE GRANT FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT? UM, COULD YOU TELL ME FOR THE UNDERLINE, UH, SEVEN 20 FOR, OKAY. THE BUDGET VERSUS ACTUALS. OKAY. SO LET'S, LET ME, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, UH, DETAIL ON THAT AREA AND, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ANSWER THAT SO I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY. SO THAT AREA, OKAY. THIS WAS, AND THIS PARTICULAR, UM, AREA IN THE BUDGET, UH, THERE WAS $2,000, UH, BUDGETED FOR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT DIVISION. THEY SPENT $358, BUT ALSO IN THAT AREA IS SOMETHING CALLED STORM WATER, MOU. AND THAT HAS 377,000 IN EXPENSES. BUT THAT IS ALSO BEING REIMBURSED, UM, FROM, UM, YOU ACTUALLY GOT IN REVENUE TO OFFSET THAT 377,000, UM, THAT, THAT MOU, UH, THAT MONEY CAME IN. UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT WAS THAT, DELAINE? IS THAT FROM THE, THE COUNTY? YEAH. THAT, THAT MONEY CAME IN THROUGH PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY IF MEMORY SERVE. CORRECT, BECAUSE WE, UH, WE HAD TO PAY FOR A PROJECT UPFRONT AND THEN WE WOULD REIMBURSE THOSE FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY. SO THAT'S WHY THAT LINE ITEM LOOKS THAT WAY. YEAH. SO WE WERE NOT NECESSARILY OVER BUDGET, IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT SHOWS, IT, IT, IT SHOWS THAT WAY RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T, WHAT WAS THE MOU WAS NOT BUDGETED FOR THAT PARTICULAR EXPENSE WAS NOT A LINE ITEM BUDGET AND EXCUSE ME. UH, SO THAT IS, BUT NEITHER WAS THE REVENUE. SO WE HAD A REVENUE THAT CAME IN AND AN EXPENSE THAT WENT OUT, AND NEITHER ONE OF THEM, UM, HAD A BUDGETED AMOUNT NEXT TO THEM. SO THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THAT TO LOOK LIKE THAT IT, SO THEY CANCELED EACH OTHER OUT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS MY SECOND PART OF MY QUESTION IS, AND I THINK I HAD RAISED THIS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BUDGET, UM, WAS THAT IN LIGHT OF THIS FEDERAL GRANT THAT NEVER APPEARED? DO WE HAVE FEDERAL MONEY IN OUR FY 26 BUDGET THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED MAY NOT APPEAR GOING FORWARD? YEAH, THE FY 26 BUDGET ALSO HAS THE MILLION 6 88 BUDGETED AGAIN, BUT IT ALSO HAS THE EXPENSE LINE ITEM BUDGETED AGAIN. SO WE'RE IN THE SAME SITUATION. IF THE PROJECT DOESN'T, IF YOU DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THE, THE FUNDS REIMBURSED. SO RIGHT NOW, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'VE SPENT ANY MONEY, LET, LET ME CHECK THAT. NO, WE HAVEN'T. BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH FEMA, UH, BECAUSE FEMA IS THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE GRANT TO ENSURE THAT IF WE DO SPEND MONEY, WE WILL GET THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS BACK IN A TIMELY MATTER. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. TANZI. HELLO. HELLO. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. I WILL SAY BACK TO YOUR EARLIER QUESTION OF, UH, IS THIS A GOOD PRESENTATION? UM, I MIGHT SAY IT WOULD BE USEFUL IF THOSE TYPES OF GRANTS WERE LINE ITEMED, UH, SINCE A LOT OF THE OVERAGES SEEM TO BE BASED OFF THAT. SO LIKE ARPA HAS ITS OWN LINE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CANCELS OUT. SO THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE, THAT CANCEL OUT OR AREN'T, YEAH, I GUESS THAT, THAT ARE ALLOCATED AND THEN NOT SPENT OR ALLOCATED AND SPENT, LIKE IN THE CASE OF STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, THAT'D BE GOOD. SO THAT SOMEONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO READS THIS AND ISN'T HERE IN THE MEETING GOES, OH, THAT ONE'S SUPER OVER BUDGET. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF A REIMBURSEMENT, UM, WOULD BE, UM, USEFUL. UH, THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE A LITTLE BIT LIKE, UH, JOHN'S QUESTION IS, UM, IF WE'RE, IF WE WERE THAT OFF ON SPEED CAMERAS, UH, LAST FISCAL YEAR, DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE OF HOW WE'RE DOING ON SPEED CAMERAS UP TILL NOW? UM, YES. UH, SO I DID LOOK AT, UM, FY 26. I DID LOOK AT, UH, THE SPEED CAMERA ON THE, UM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON SO [00:30:01] FAR, UM, THIS YEAR. AND, UM, BASICALLY THIS FEE, WE, WHEN WE DID THE FY 26 BUDGET, WE, UH, TRIED TO ESTIMATE BETTER ON THE REVENUE AND THE COST OF THE, UM, OF, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE PER TICKET. UM, RIGHT NOW, SPEED CAMERA HAD COLLECTED, UH, A LITTLE MORE REVENUE THAN, UH, WE ANTICIPATED. SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, SO THAT'S 25% OF YOUR YEAR. IT HAD COLLECTED MORE THAN 25% OF THE BUDGET. UM, BUT THE EXPENSE WAS ALSO A LITTLE HIGHER. SO IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRACKING OKAY. THE, THE PROFITABILITY OF THE SPEED CAMERA WAS TRACKING. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU, SINCE THE CHIEF, THE DEPUTY CHIEF AND MYSELF HAVE, AND, UH, CORPORAL, UH, UH, BECKER HAS BEEN, UH, MEETING WITH THE VENDOR, WE HAVE SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT WITH, UM, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING AND THE TIME OF PAYMENTS AS WELL. SO, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCOUNTABLE JUST BASED OFF OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THEM MOST RECENTLY. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL FOR MS. MOCK ON FY 25 OR THE FIRST QUARTER OF FY 26? OKAY. SEEING NONE, UH, WE WILL RECEIVE THE AUDIT REPORT, MR. GALLOWAY, WHEN, WHAT IS OUR BEST ESTIMATE? WE ARE WORKING WITH THE AUDITOR RIGHT NOW TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE AUDIT IS DUE ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER THE 31ST. SO AS SOON AS THAT, UH, DOCUMENT IS COMPLETED AND WE HAVE A AUDIT, WE WILL GET THAT OUT TO YOU ALL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THE AUDITORS HAVE REQUESTED HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER ON TIME AUDIT. EXCELLENT. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, SO NO FINGERS CROSSED NOVEMBER, AND THEN WE WILL IN DECEMBER DISCUSS THE BUDGET CALENDAR. YES. FOR FY 27, I THINK. UH, OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. UH, LET US MOVE ON TO ITEM 6 57 0 1 LANDOVER ROAD. MS. BELE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US AT THE TABLE? UH, AND I THINK WHERE WE WANNA START TONIGHT IS TO ASK YOU TO GIVE US, UH, AN OVERVIEW OF THE OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS THAT CNPP IS DOING, AND THEN GO TO 57 0 1 COUNSEL YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKETS, I BELIEVE THE, UM, PLAN THAT WE ALL DISCUSSED. YOU TWO WERE ON COUNCIL, BUT THAT WE DISCUSSED IN FEBRUARY, I THINK OF THIS YEAR, UH, AS THE KIND OF BLUEPRINT FOR WHERE TO GO FORWARD OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS YOUR GREEN LIGHT ON BE HERE WITH YOUR NEW FORMAT? OH, I DIDN'T, I THOUGHT IT WHAT? BRING IT TO MY FACE. OKAY. IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? OH, THERE WE GO. . THAT'S KIND OF SCARY. UM, I DO LIKE THE NEW SETUP WITH ALL THE CAMERAS AND ALL THAT. IT'S ALL FANCY AND IT, IT, I THINK THIS IS REALLY NICE. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING ABOUT OUR OTHER PROJECTS TOO. AS, UM, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, WE HAD TWO VOLUNTEERS OUT TODAY PLANTING IN FRONT OF THE, THE COMMUNITY CENTER SIGN, UM, WHICH IS AWESOME. AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI CAN TELL YOU TOO, THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FOURTH WARD CIVIC ASSOCIATION AGAIN ON, UM, EXPANDING THAT PROJECT. I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S NINE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE TOWN OF CHEVROLET, UM, IN VARIOUS PLACES. AND MOST OF THEM ARE KIND OF ON AUTOPILOT AND WE JUST DO OUR THING AND WE WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AS WE CAN. IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN CH UH, WE JUST COMPLETED A, THE INSTALLATION OF A, UH, NATIVE PLANT FOOD FOREST AT THE ECO CITY FARMS, WHICH IS AN URBAN, UM, TEACHING AND LEARNING FARM THAT HAS A CSA AND DOES ALL SORTS OF WONDERFUL GOOD STUFF, INCLUDING BEGINNER FARMER TRAINING PROGRAMS. UM, WE ON SATURDAY, WHICH, UM, MAYOR WATSON AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER THIS EVENING, UH, WE WILL BE INSTALLING [00:35:01] TWO NATIVE PLANT HABITATS AT THE BLADENSBURG LIBRARY. UM, THESE WILL, UM, THAT'S PART OF A A WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE, THE LIBRARY. WE STARTED IT LAST YEAR WHERE WE DID SOME CONTAINER PLANTINGS FOR THEM. AND WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, AND WE'RE GONNA START DOING A BUNCH OF PROGRAMMING, UM, AROUND NATIVE PLANTING THERE. AND WE ALSO, UH, JUST STARTED IN SEPTEMBER. WE ARE WORKING ON TWO ACRES NEXT TO THE PUBLIC PLAYHOUSE. THIS IS PG PARKS LAND, UM, WHERE WE WILL BE DOING SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID AT 57 0 1, UM, OR WHAT WE'RE DOING AT 57 0 1. AND WE JUST, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON, BUT THOSE ARE OUR BIG ONES RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF FUN. YEAH. ALRIGHT, SO THE TOWN, I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS UNTIL I REREAD THIS. THE TOWN'S OWNED THE 57 0 1 PARCEL FOR 13 YEARS NOW. AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, AS SOMEONE WHO WASN'T ON COUNCIL DURING THESE YEARS, THIS WAS A BRILLIANT MOVE BY THE COUNCIL, UH, TO OBTAIN THIS PARCEL OF LAND FOR A ROCK BOTTOM PRICE. UM, AND, UH, SO TALK THROUGH MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE CURRENT, LIKE THE CURRENT SITUATION, THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE KIND OF THE, UH, EXIT STRATEGY FOR CNPP AT THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE ONGOING CHALLENGES LIKE THE GLASS. OKAY. SO, UM, ONE CLARIFICATION IS CNPP WHEN WE SIGN UP FOR OUR PROJECT, WE DON'T EXIT. UM, WE WE'RE KIND OF LIKE THE BAD BOYFRIEND WHO WON'T GO AWAY, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE SIGN UP FOR OUR PROJECT, OUR , OUR MODEL IS THAT WE AGREE TO WORK WITH THE ENTITY THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY TO HELP WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND DO A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE OURSELF AND COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST INSTALLED. AND THEN IT, UM, DEGRADES OVER TIME. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE KIND OF WORK THAT WE DO, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ONE AND DONE. IT'S NOT, YOU PUT IT IN AND YOU WALK AWAY. IF WE WALKED AWAY AT THIS POINT, UM, IT WOULD BE OVERRUN WITH INVASIVES WITHIN THREE YEARS. UM, THERE IS, WE DO HAVE A THREE YEAR PLAN FOR INVASIVE MANAGEMENT OF THIS PROPERTY. AND THIS IS ALSO PART OF THE, UM, THE CBT GRANT THAT WE GOT FOR THIS, UM, PROJECT. SO WHILE WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING ANYMORE FOR THIS, WHILE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE DON'T HAVE A GRANT FOR THIS PROJECT. WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT LEAVING. UM, SO, BUT TO JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE, WE ARE, UM, WE DID MEET THE GRANT GOALS, UM, AND WE EXCEEDED THE GRANT GOALS. UM, I ACTUALLY ON MONDAY, GET TO WRITE THE FINAL GRANT REPORT, UM, WHICH IS GONNA BE SO MUCH FUN, UM, , BUT TO GIVE YOU, UM, AN IDEA OF WHAT'S, UM, HAPPENED TODAY. AND I JUST, I, I LIKE NUMBERS. THIS GOES BACK TO, I USED TO WORK ON BUDGET ISSUES AND SO I LOVE NUMBERS. UM, TO DATE, SINCE WE STARTED OUR FIRST WORK SESSION AT 57 0 1 WAS ON FEBRUARY 1ST, 2024, WE HAVE HAD 61 WORK SESSIONS THERE. UM, IF YOU COUNT THE WATERING SESSIONS THAT WE HAD TO DO THIS SUMMER, UM, IT'S OVER 70. AND I WILL TELL YOU, WATERING THAT'S PLACE WAS NO JOKE BECAUSE WE DID HAVE TO TAP, TAP INTO A FIRE HYDRANT EACH AND EVERY TIME THE HOSES TODAY, I WENT AND WRAPPED UP THE HOSES 'CAUSE WE TOOK 'EM AWAY FOR THE YEAR AND WE, UH, RETURNED THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE FIRE HYDRANT. IT TOOK ME 30 MINUTES TO WRAP UP THE HOSES AND I COULDN'T CARRY THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO USE COMMERCIAL HOSES WHEN YOU'RE WORKING, WHEN YOU USE A FIRE HYDRANT. SO, UM, SO WE'VE DONE OVER, WE'VE BEEN THERE OVER 70 TIMES. AND BY THE WAY, EACH WATERING SESSION IS THREE HOURS WITH TWO PEOPLE. SO , IT'S, IT IS NO JOKE . SO, UM, WE HAVE OUR VOLUNTEERS ON SITE. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BEHIND THE SCENES, THE PLANNING, THE ORGANIZING, THE MEETINGS, THE GRANT WRITING. OUR VOLUNTEERS HAVE PUT IN 1000, UH, AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE WATERING AGAIN, 1,136 HOURS. UM, WE'VE HAD OVER 160 VOLUNTEERS ON SITE AND THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY INPUT SESSIONS AND ALL OUR, OUR, WE DID SIX DIFFERENT COMMUNITY OUTREACH SESSIONS, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN IN CONJUNCTION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WADE. WE HAVE HAD INPUT AND WE HAVE HAD OVER 240 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS [00:40:01] WHO HAD HAVE DONE SOMETHING WITH 57 0 1 SINCE WE STARTED ON FEBRUARY 1ST, 2024. UM, SO, UM, AND WE HAVE WRITTEN INPUT FROM 117 PEOPLE, SO WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT. UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, 50 K GRANT, THE FIVE THOU, UH, $50,000 GRANT, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, D-C-N-P-P HAS DONATED OVER ALMOST $5,000 TO THE PROJECT BECAUSE THE GRANT DID NOT COVER, UM, EVERYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE PAID FOR. UM, WE ALSO LEVERED LEVERAGED RELATIONSHIPS AND WE, UM, FROM JOE'S GREEN TEAM, WHICH IS A, A DIVISION OF JOE'S MOVEMENT EMPORIUM, THEY HAVE DON, THEY DONATED OVER $1,500 WORTH OF PLANTS AND TREES. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT DONATION, THEY, UM, DID ALL THE PLANTING OF THOSE, THE PLANTS AND TREES THAT THEY DID. AND SO THEY DONATED OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF LABOR, UM, TO THE PROJECT. UM, THE GARDEN CLUB HAS DONATED A BENCH TO THE PROJECT AND PLANTS TO THE PROJECT, UM, AND ALL IN TOTAL CNPP ON THIS PROJECT, CNPP AND ANACOSTIA WATERSHED SOCIETY. UM, WE HAVE BROUGHT A HUNDRED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THIS PROJECT. UM, SO WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT. WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH WHERE THINGS ARE AT. WE, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE DID THE, THE MASSIVE, UM, INVASIVE REMOVAL AND, UM, THE REMOVAL OF THE SIX TONS OF CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS BY WHEELBARROW , YOU KNOW, AND, AND THANK GOODNESS THE TOWN PUBLIC WORKS, UM, WHO WE LOVE WORKING WITH. THEY, UM, CARTED IT AWAY FOR US ONCE WE GOT IT TO THE ENTRANCE BECAUSE WE WERE DOING THIS LOW IMPACT AS WELL. THAT'S WHY WE DID IT ALL BY WHEELBARROW. WE DID AS, UH, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT ON SITE THAT WE COULD DO. UM, SO WE DID THE INVASIVE REMOVAL. WE, WE PUT OUT AN RFP AND WE GOT A CONTRACTOR WHO DID THE SLOPE STABILIZATION. UM, AND THAT HAPPENED, UM, I THINK, WAS IT JUNE JULY? IT WAS IN JUNE IS WHEN THAT HAPPENED, WHICH WAS A COUPLE MONTHS, A FEW MONTHS BEHIND SCHEDULE. UM, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, HOW THESE THINGS GO. SO THE SLOPES WERE STABILIZED. UM, WE HAD TO, AND PART OF THE REASON WHY THE GRANT DIDN'T COVER THINGS AND WHY CNPP ENDED UP DONATING, UM, MORE THAN WE ANTICIPATED DONATING, UM, WAS BECAUSE HOW THE SLOPES WERE FIXED. WE COULDN'T SEED THEM. WE HAD TO PLANT IN THEM BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD, IT WOULD JUST BE TOO COMPLICATED. UM, SO, UM, AND THEY BROUGHT IN, THE CONTRACTOR ALSO BROUGHT IN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO GO OVER THERE YET. UM, BUT THEY BROUGHT IN, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE PLANT, THOSE, THOSE BOULDERS. SO THERE'S A REALLY COOL BOULDER SEATING AREA, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE SQUIRRELS OR THE KIDS TOOK ALL THE BLACK WALNUTS AND PUT THEM ON TOP OF THE BOULDERS , BUT THERE WAS A BUNCH OF BROKEN BLACK WALNUTS ON TOP OF IT. BLACK WALNUTS ARE A NATIVE TREES THAT WE'RE HAPPY THAT THEY'RE PRODUCING, AND ALL THE TREES ARE DOING SO MUCH BETTER NOW THAT THEY'RE FREE TO VINES AND ALL THAT. SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE INSTALLED THE WOOD CHIP PATHS THROUGH THERE, UM, IN THE ENTRYWAY THAT WAS DESIGNED TO, IN THE FUTURE, HOPEFULLY BE AN A DA ACCESSIBLE AREA. WE DID HAVE THE CONTRACTOR, UM, REGRADE IT TO MAKE IT SO THAT IF IT, IF WE GET THE FUNDS TO, UH, AND BY WE, IF THE TOWN GETS THE FUNDS TO DO THE A DA COMPLIANT AREA, UM, IT WILL BE EASIER FOR THE GRADING BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAD THE CONTRACTOR DO WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE SLOPE STABILIZATION. UM, AND ALSO WE FOUND OUT THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE USE, THEY CAN, YOU CAN DO PERMEABLE PAVER, A DA ACCESSIBLE, UM, UM, AREAS WHICH, YOU KNOW, MEETS OUR GOALS OF MAKING IT OPEN TO EVERYONE. UM, AND ALSO, UM, DOES THE LEAST, UM, DOES THE LEAST, UM, ECOLOGICAL HARM? I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW A BETTER WAY TO PHRASE IT, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT. UM, SO WE HAVE THE PATHS IN, UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, IT, IT, UH, LUIS AND, UM, THE MAYOR AND I MET IN SEPTEMBER TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OPEN ITEMS THAT WE WANTED TO WORK ON TOGETHER. LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, WE GOT, WE GOT REALLY TAPPED OUT AT THE END, DOING THE PLANT INSTALLATION AND THE WATERING AND ALL THAT. AND [00:45:01] SO THE AREA THAT WAS RESERVED FOR POTENTIAL PLAY EQUIPMENT IN THE FUTURE, UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE WOOD CHIPPED AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO, TO SUPPRESS GROWTH. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE PUT DOWN A LAYER OF CARDBOARD AND THEN WE PUT WOOD CHIPS ON, ON TOP, LIKE AT LEAST SIX INCHES. AND THAT HELPS SUPPRESS GROWTH OF THINGS THAT YOU DON'T WANT GROWING THERE, UM, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE FUTURE. AND ALSO THEN IT CAN BE USED AT THAT TIME. SO WE'RE, UM, WE DID TALK ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS WORKING WITH CNPP AFTER CHEVROLET DAY. WE ALL AGREED AFTER CHEVROLET DAY WE'D, WE'D COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THIS, OF JUST GETTING THAT AREA WOOD CHIPPED. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AROUND THE PERIMETER OF, UM, THERE'S A BUNCH OF, UM, GRASS THAT IT, IT, IT'S DOING NOTHING. AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER. AND ACTUALLY IT'S CAUSING A PROBLEM FOR THE SLOPES TOO, BECAUSE IT'S INTRODUCING INVASIVES DOWN THE SLOPES. SO, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REMOVING THAT, UM, USING A SOD KICKER TO GET RID OF THAT AND JUST WOOD CHIPPING THAT TOP AREA. AND THEN THAT WILL SAVE PUBLIC WORKS FROM HAVING TO GO OVER AND MAINTAIN IT. AND IT WILL ALSO SAVE US WORK FROM HAVING TO DEAL WITH INVASIVES THAT WE DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH WHILE THE NATIVE PLANTS ARE FILLING IN. SO, UM, WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. UM, WE WE'RE, IT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S LIKE, IT'S JUST AMAZING THE TRANSFORMATION WHEN YOU GO OVER THERE. SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY WHERE THINGS ARE AT. SO, AND HAPPY TO BE DONE WATERING FOR THE YEAR, SO RIGHT. HAPPY TO HAVE A BREAK IN THE HEAT. YEAH. UH, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? COUNCIL MEMBER, WADE? NO, OF COURSE. I HAVE COMMENTS. UH, JUST WANT TO THANK DIANE AND HER TEAM. AS THE MAYOR SAID, UM, OVER 13 YEARS, IT HAS BEEN SITTING THERE AS A RESIDENT FOR OVER 11 YEARS, UM, DRIVING BY THERE EVERY DAY AS A PERSON THAT LIVES OVER THERE. UM, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU, YOUR AMAZING TEAM. UH, FIRST DAY WHEN WE MET AND WE DISCUSSED THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UM, THE LAYOUT OF COURSE AWS UH, JOE'S EMPORIUM. I REMEMBER I MET WITH THE VOLUNTEER, UH, TEAM THERE AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT DIVISION THAT YOU ALL HAD, UM, THE LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT YOU PROVIDED. UM, AS MENTIONED HERE, IT'S JUST A TESTAMENT NOT ONLY TO THE DEDICATION AND VISION OF YOUR, YOUR ORGANIZATION, BUT YOUR DEDICATION TO SHOVEL AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL HERE, THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT COMES TO FULL FRUITION. AND, UH, SO THAT YOUR WORK IS NOT DONE IN VAIN. AND SO THAT THE RESIDENTS, UH, OF WARD ONE AND THE RESIDENTS OF, UH, THE TOWN HAVE A FULLY FUNCTIONAL, UH, AREA THAT YOU ALL PUT STARTED. SO THANK YOU. LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING. AS YOU KNOW, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT YOU IN A WAY, FORM OR FASHION FOR THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I WILL SAY IT'S, IT WAS SO WONDERFUL WHEN WE WERE WORKING THERE AND WE WOULD HAVE NEIGHBORS COME BY AND YELL DOWN, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, OR, UM, AND I THINK I TOLD THE STORY TOO ABOUT, UM, UH, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, THEIR, THEIR 16-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WHO WALKED BY THEIR GOING TO SCHOOL. SHE SAID, I USED TO BE TERRIFIED WALKING BY HERE. AND SHE'S LIKE, NOW I FEEL TOTALLY SAFE. AND, AND WE DID CONSIDER THAT WHEN GOING IN OF, AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT, OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS VISIBILITY SO THAT THERE IS SAFETY, UM, ON THE LOT BECAUSE IT IS AN ISSUE. SO, BUT YEAH, IT'S FUN. SO, SO MR. GALLOWAY, I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU. SO WALK, WALK US THROUGH WHAT THE TOWN IS DOING, IF THE TOWN IS DOING ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE THE WINTER, AND THEN WHAT THE TOWN'S PLANS. F 57 0 1 ARE FOR THE SPRING. OKAY. UM, SO BEFORE I GET TO THAT, I'LL SAY THIS, UH, WITH, UH, MS. BEETLE, UH, FROM THE VERY FIRST PROJECT UNTIL NOW, UH, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH WITH THIS. NO, WE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT A TIMELINE. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WORK IN HAND, IN HAND IN LOCKSTEP WITH, UH, MS. BELE AND HER TEAM TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER ACTIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE ARE DONE. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT IS SU IS SUCCESSFUL. OKAY. I THINK, UM, IF YOU CAN ASK PUBLIC WORKS TO COME BACK WITH US AND JUST LET US KNOW WHAT ELSE, LIKE WHAT ARE THEY DOING NEXT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND [00:50:01] WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, I KNOW WHAT'S OVER THERE WHEN I GO OVER THERE AND IT LOOKS AWESOME, BUT LIKE WHAT, MAYBE WE'RE OUT OF TIME TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. ARE WE BUILDING A FENCE? IS THE FENCE BEING BUILT IN THE SPRING? WHO'S SELECTING THE FENCE, MR. WADE? WELL, I, I WAS GONNA COMMENT YOU JUST SAID THAT I THINK THE MAIN THING WE DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT WINTERTIME IS COMING, SOME TYPE OF BARRIER FOR INDIVIDUALS THROWING THINGS OVER ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. IT STARTS SNOWING AND YOU GO BACK IN THERE IN THE SPRING AND ALL THIS STUFF IS DUMPED DOWN THERE. UH, HOW TO PROTECT THAT, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THE PUBLIC WORKS OF HAVING, UH, GETTING FUNDING FOR THAT. I KNOW MR. GOVERNMENT CAN SPEAK WITH THAT AS WELL, BUT GETTING FUNDING, WELL, WE HADN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR INTO DISCUSSIONS YET AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC WORKS YET, BUT WHENEVER WE GET THERE, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE THERE TO SUPPORT, UH, MS. BEETLE ON HER TEAM IN DOING THAT. UM, AS FAR AS DEFENSE AS IT RELATES TO DEFENSE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF RECEIVING SOME GRANT MONEY, UM, TO GET A FENCE, AN INDUSTRIAL FENCE IN WHICH MS. BELE WILL BE A PART OF THE PROCESS AS FAR AS PICKING OUT THE TYPE OF FENCE THAT IT'S ALONG THAT 2 0 2 CORRIDOR, UM, THERE JUST SO THAT IT'S SAFE, UM, AND IT MEETS THE NEED OF, OF THE PARK. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. AND I I, AND THAT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR. I I DO WANNA TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT THE GRANT 'CAUSE THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UM, ONE THING TO NOTE, LIKE, BECAUSE THIS SITE WAS USED FOR DUMPING FOR SERIOUS ILLEGAL DUMPING FOR SO MANY YEARS, FOR THE 40 YEAH. DECADES. IT WAS LITERALLY DECADES. UM, WHEN YOU SEE IT IN THAT STATE, WHEN YOU START, PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE. BUT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT SINCE WE ARE WORKING THERE, WE'RE NOT HAVING THE SAME KIND OF PROBLEMS THAT, THAT WERE HAPPENING BEFORE. WE HAD ONE DUMPING INCIDENT AND ALL IT WAS WAS A NEIGHBOR BROUGHT OVER THEIR WOOD AND PUT IT ON OUR PILE OF INVASIVES TO REMOVE. AND ALL I COULD THINK WAS, BUT WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE IT? 'CAUSE PUBLIC WORKS COMES TO YOUR HOUSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T ANYTHING LIKE THE, YOU CAN TELL THE TRUCKS USED TO DRIVE UP AND JUST DUMP THINGS DOWN. AND I WILL SAY LIKE WHEN WE WERE DOING THE SLOPE STABILIZATION, ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND WAS THERE WAS NO WAY TO GET RID OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS THERE. THEY HAD TO DO FILL DIRT ON TOP BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MANY LAYERS AND LAYERS. I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE AN ARCHEOLOGICAL DIG THERE. UM, SO I'M NOT SUPER WORRIED. WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF LITTER. UM, BUT WE'VE HAD HARDLY, I MEAN, IN PUBLIC WORKS CAN TELL YOU TOO, WHEN THEY GO AND THEY DO THE PERIMETER SWEEP, IT'S NOTHING LIKE IT WAS, ESPECIALLY SINCE, UM, THE TOWN PUT IN WHAT THEY SAY ARE TEMPORARY TRASH CANS, BUT THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL AND THEY WORK REALLY WELL. AND SINCE YOU ALL HAVE PUT THOSE IN, IT'S BEEN EVEN BETTER BECAUSE NOW PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE TO, UM, PUT THEIR TRASH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE WIND BLEW A FEW THINGS IN, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT AS BAD AS YOU THINK IT WOULD BE. IT, I WOULD SAY, LIKE DEPENDING ON, SINCE IT WILL BE A WHILE, I ANTICIPATE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THERE'S FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THE FENCING, IT'S GONNA TAKE, WHAT, SIX MONTHS OR MORE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE BIDDING PROCESS WILL BE AND ALL AND ALL THAT, BUT, UM, BIDDING AND INSTALLATION. BUT, UM, I WOULD SAY LIKE, UM, SO LUIS AND I NEED TO REGROUP NOW THAT CHEVROLET DAY'S DONE AND, UM, COME UP LIKE WHEN THE, THE SOD REMOVAL WILL HAPPEN AND WHEN THAT WOOD CHIPPING WILL HAPPEN. AND I THINK WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO FOR THE WINTER IS THE TEMPORARY FENCE, WHICH HAS BEEN UP FOR 19 MONTHS AND IT'S BEEN WORKING. WE JUST HAVE TO REPLACE THAT. LIKE, NOT THE POLES. THE POLES ARE STILL FINE, IT'S JUST THE FENCING HAS BEEN CUT SO MANY TIMES FOR LIKE PEPCO WENT THROUGH AND TOOK DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE INVASIVE TREES UNDER THE POWER LINES AND THEN OUR CONTRACTOR HAD TO GO THROUGH THEM TO GET SOME OF THE DIRT DOWN OR THE FILL DIRT SOIL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL IT. UM, SO LIKE REPLACING THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. UM, AND YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. I, SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF I WENT OFF, BUT YEAH. YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK, UM, SO JUST FOR COUNCIL'S AWARENESS, WE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY A SERIOUS FENCE, AND I DON'T KNOW A BETTER WORD THAN THAT FOR THE NORTH SIDE AND THE WEST SIDE. SO THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE EAST SIDE ARE BASICALLY OKAY, BUT THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, YOUR NORMAL FENCE. I MEAN, THIS IS A SIX FIGURES INDUSTRIAL GRADE FENCE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A LOT OF [00:55:01] AREA AND IT'S ONLY TWO SIDES OF THE RECTANGLE. DON'T BE FOOLED THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S INEXPENSIVE OR NORMAL FENCING. I MEAN, I'VE NEVER IN MY LIFE DEALT WITH THE KIND OF FENCE THAT IS GONNA BE REQUIRED, UM, FOR THAT. SO THAT'S JUST GONNA BE A BIG TICKET ITEM. UM, I THINK WE'RE, WELL, YOU KNOW, MR. GALLOWAY'S ALREADY DEPLOYED SOME CREATIVE IDEAS. UM, AND, UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST EVEN IF WE GET THE GRANT, WE'RE BUYING IT. SO JUST BE, PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THE STICKER SHOP. UM, LET US, SO, SO WE HAVE A WORK SESSION ON DECEMBER 3RD. PERHAPS WE CAN REGROUP AT THAT TIME, MR. WADE, IF THAT'S, UH, AGREEABLE TO YOU AND, UM, UM, DISCUSS, UH, THE SHORT TERM PLAN FOR THIS. AND I WANNA ALSO LIKE GET A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT, 'CAUSE WE HAVE $35,000 IN THE 27 BUDGET AND WE HAVE ANOTHER $35,000 IN THE 28 CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THIS PIECE OF LAND THAT'S NOT GONNA BUY A FENCE, BUT WHAT DO WE WANNA DO WITH THAT MONEY AFTER WE GET THE FENCE? OR ARE WE JUST GONNA BE PAYING OURSELVES BACK FOR THE FENCE? UM, BUT UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY PICK, YOU KNOW, DO SOME SIDE CONVERSATIONS AND PICK THIS UP ON DECEMBER 3RD. YES, MA'AM. I WOULD, I WOULD SAY WITH THAT, UM, IT'S GOOD TO HEAR, UM, THAT THERE IS MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, I, THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS THAT, THAT WERE IN THE PLAN THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE LIKE THE, THE INFORMATIONAL SIGN AND YOU KNOW, LIKE KIND SOME KIND OF ENTRY LANDING. AND THIS COULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE A DA FEATURES TOO, SINCE IT, IT WON'T, UM, BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE, THE FENCING, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT COST MORE THAN YOU THINK THEY WILL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO THE PARK SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROJECT? MR. TANZI, I JUST ALSO WANNA THANK YOU AGAIN. IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. I LOVE THE PACKET. I READ THROUGH WHAT THE SURVEY RESULTS WERE AND I WAS EXCITED TO SEE THAT YOU HAD STAGE 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR ON YOUR PAGE 11 ARE PAGE 19. UM, AND I JUST WANNA SAY I'M, I'M IN SUPPORT OF ALL OF THEM. I THINK THE A DA, UH, ACCESS WOULD BE GREAT. AND I THINK HAVING A NATURE PLAY AREA, WHICH I ASSUME WOULD BE ON THAT, UM, MORE RECESSED PART FURTHER FROM FROM 2 0 2, WHERE THE A DA ACCESS WOULD COME IN CLOSER TO NEWTON. THE, THE A DA SECTION WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE NEWTON SIDE. YEAH. YEAH. AND THE PLAY AREA WAS DESIGNATED TOWARD THE FRONT. OKAY. MORE OF THE FRONT. BUT ONE THING THAT UM, WE DO NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS, AND I TALKED WITH, UM, THE MAYOR AND WITH I DELAINE, I THINK WE MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. I KNOW I TALKED WITH LOUISE ABOUT IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE FOUND IS BECAUSE THIS WAS USED AS A DUMPING AREA FOR SO LONG, WE CAN'T GET RID OF THE BROKEN GLASS. LIKE IT'S EVERYWHERE AND IT'S DANGEROUS. AND UM, THANKFULLY WE'VE ONLY HAD A FEW PEOPLE GET CUT WHILE WORKING THERE, BUT EVERY TIME IT RAINS IT PERCOLATES UP AND IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER. LIKE, AND IT'S PERCOLATING UP THROUGH THE WOOD CHIPS THROUGH, I MEAN, IT'S IN THE GARDENS AND THINGS. AND SO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T ANTICIPATE. LIKE WE, WE HAD NO IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PULLING OUT TENS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF BOTTLES AND THEN ALL THE BOTTLES THAT WERE BROKEN AND THAT ARE IN THERE. IT'S JUST, I MEAN, IT'S CRAZY. AND WE'RE FINDING BOTTLES THAT ARE LIKE, WE HAD, ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS IS A BOTTLE COLLECTOR AND SHE WAS TAKING THEM HOME. THAT'S HOW OLD THEY ARE AND HOW LONG IT'S BEEN GOING ON. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN HAS TO THINK ABOUT, LIKE WITH THE, THE SAFETY ISSUE AND ENCOURAGING, UM, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A SAFETY ISSUE THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT LIKE HOW DO YOU PIVOT WHEN YOU FIND SOMETHING LIKE THIS OUT AND WHAT DO YOU DO TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE NOTRE CREATING A LIABILITY ISSUE FOR THE TOWN? YOU'RE NOT CREATING A SAFETY ISSUE. SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT MORE. SO, AND, AND MICHAEL, AND WE SAW THAT THERE WAS ONE AREA WHERE WE HAD FIVE VOLUNTEERS ON OUR HANDS AND KNEES PULLING OUT GLASS FOR OVER TWO HOURS. AND I TOOK THEM A WEEK LATER AND THERE WAS GLASS EVERYWHERE 'CAUSE IT RAINED. SO YEAH. WELL THAT WAS A DEPRESSING NOTE TO END ON, BUT OTHERWISE I WOULD SAY THIS IS AWESOME. UM, ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL ON THIS? ALL GOOD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. ALRIGHT, [01:00:01] UH, ITEM SEVEN IS THE LIQUOR BOARD APPLICATION FROM CHOP UP. UH, MR. GALLOWAY, DO YOU WANNA START THIS OR DO YOU WANT ME TO? UH, I'LL LET YOU DO IT. I'LL LET YOU START IT NOW. ALRIGHT. UH, IF YOU FOLKS WANT COME UP AND, UH, HAVE A SEAT. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GARCES IS ONLINE, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE HE HAS A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN, UM, DURING THIS CONVERSATION, UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT THE OWNERS, UH, OF THIS, UH, ESTABLISHMENT, UM, WHO HAVE JOINED US TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO JOIN US. THEY HAVE MADE AN APPLICATION TO THE PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSED COMMISSIONERS, THE LIQUOR BOARD FOR A CLASS B LICENSE, UH, AT THIS RESTAURANT. THIS IS, WAS FORMALLY THE ANGEL'S RESTAURANT, UH, AT 64 31 LANDOVER ROAD. SO NEXT TO, TO THE PO DORIA, EVERYONE TRACKING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. SO WHY DON'T YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUSINESS IF I CAN, IF I CAN JUMP IN REAL, REAL QUICK. OH YEAH, SURE. UH, THEIR ATTORNEY, UH, BEN CARTER IS HERE, SO, UH, STAFF, IF YOU CAN PLEASE SPOTLIGHT MR. CARTER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SURE. NO, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. AND WELCOME MR. CARTER. HI, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN TONIGHT AND SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT MY CLIENT'S APPLICATION. UM, FOR THE RECORD, UM, MY NAME IS BENJAMIN CARTER. UM, MY CLIENTS ARE KULA ACHO, UM, AND, UH, HIS SISTER AMMO ACHO. UM, AND WE'VE MADE AN APPLICATION TO APPLY FOR A CLASS B BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR LICENSE FOR, UM, IT'LL BE THE FULL NAME IS, UH, CHOP UP AND COOL CHOP UP RESTAURANT AND COOLER LOUNGE. UM, IT IS IN THE OLD ANGELS LOCATION AS YOU MENTIONED, MR. MAYOR. UM, AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT JUST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT US, UM, AND THE APPLICATION AND, UM, TO HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. YEAH, GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR MOVING TO CH UH, AND, AND STARTING A BUSINESS HERE. UM, YOU'VE BEEN, IT'S BEEN GOING FOR, UH, A LITTLE WHILE AND I HADN'T HEARD ABOUT IT, WHICH IS MOSTLY GOOD NEWS. UM, 'CAUSE A A LOT OF ESTABLISHMENTS I DO HEAR ABOUT FOR THE WRONG REASONS. SO, UH, THANK YOU. AND I HOPE IT'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL FEW MONTHS. UM, SO THE CLASS B LICENSE, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, IS FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON SALES ONLY, NO OFF SALE, UH, AND NO ENTERTAINMENT. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS ENTIRELY CORRECT. UM, FULL DISCLOSURE, UM, DOWN THE ROAD WE MAY PURSUE ENTERTAINMENT, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE DECIDE TO DO, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE TOWN OF CH FIRST. UM, AND WE'LL TALK WITH YOU, ALL OF YOU ABOUT THE ENTERTAINMENT THAT WE MAY WANT TO HAVE. UM, AND THE PROCESS FOR THAT WOULD REQUIRE POLICE APPROVAL, UM, FROM BOTH THE TOWN OF CH AND THE PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, AND LIQUOR BOARD APPROVAL. SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE, IF THAT'S A PROCESS THAT IF WE WANTED TO START TOMORROW, IT'S STILL PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AWAY AND IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU THROUGH EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. OKAY. SO IT'S ONLY ON SALES, UH, INSIDE THE ESTABLISHMENT. THERE'S NO OUTSIDE COMPONENT, UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY IN A STOREFRONT, CORRECT? THAT IS ALL CORRECT. YEAH. UH, WHAT HOURS ARE YOU OPEN? SO CURRENTLY FOR FOOD, GO AHEAD. SO AS A CONDITION OF THIS LICENSE, IF IT'S GRANTED, FOOD WILL HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES. UM, THAT ALCOHOL IS BEING SERVED. UM, SO THE KITCHEN WILL BE OPEN AT ALL HOURS OF OPERATION. UM, IF THE LICENSE IS, UM, APPROVED THERE, THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES TO THE BUSINESS'S MODE OF OPERATION. UM, IT WILL BE EXTENDING ITS HOURS IN THE EVENING BECAUSE THEY WILL BE HAVING MORE OF A SIT DOWN DINNER BUSINESS RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THE LICENSE. IT'S DOING PRIMARILY A CARRYOUT BUSINESS. MM-HMM . UM, AND KULA, YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME, I DON'T HAVE YOUR, UH, CURRENT CLOSING TIME IN MY NOTES. UM, BUT IF THE LICENSE IS APPROVED, UM, THEY'LL OPEN AT 1230 FOR LUNCH AND THEY'LL STAY OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM DOES THAT SOUND ACCURATE RIGHT NOW? NO. MAKE SURE YOUR GREEN LIGHT'S ON RIGHT NOW, YOUR GREEN LIGHT. THIS? YEAH. OKAY. RIGHT NOW IT WAS OPEN FROM, UH, 1230 IN THE AFTERNOON TO 8:00 PM PEOPLE MIGHT STILL BE HITTING AFTER 8:00 PM BUT THAT'S A CORE OF TIME. OKAY. UH, AND, UM, SIT, CAN YOU SAY A WORD ABOUT THE CURRENT PARKING SITUATION AND HOW YOU WOULD MITIGATE THE, ANY PARKING IMPACTS OF HAVING THE LIQUOR LICENSE? UM, YOU [01:05:01] KNOW, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ONLY TOUCHED ON BRIEFLY. UM, TO BE FRANK, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IN OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY, WE'VE EX THERE'S BEEN MUCH CONCERN EXPRESSED ABOUT, UM, IS THE PARKING LOT SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN HAS CONCERNS ABOUT? UM, AFTER 8:00 PM WELL, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT A LARGE PARKING LOT. OKAY. AND SO, UH, AND, AND SO, SO I THINK TWO, TWO THINGS. ONE THING, THERE'S A SIZE ISSUE, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT PARKING OVERFLOWING INTO, OF COURSE, BUILDING LIKE THE RESTAURANT AND THE PIA AND EVERYBODY ELSE NEEDS TO KEEP THEIR CARS, CUSTOMER'S CARS ON THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SHOPPING CENTER PARKING LOT. UH, AND THEN SECONDARILY, I MEAN, IN OUR EXPERIENCE WE HAVE HAD, WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY SECOND. SECOND AND ALSO IMPORTANT, WE HAVE HAD TROUBLE IN THE PAST WITH NONSENSE HAPPENING IN PARKING LOTS OUTSIDE OF ORGANIZATION, UH, ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HAVE LIQUOR LICENSE. UNDERSTOOD. UM, FRANKLY, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MY CLIENTS DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS BEING AN ISSUE. WE UNDERSTAND THE TOWN HAS CONCERN, HAS CONCERNS BASED ON PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE. UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WORK WITH THE TOWN TO COME UP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, BEST POLICIES FOR MAKING SURE THE PARKING LOT IS HANDLED PROPERLY AT ALL TIMES. THE BUSINESS IS OPEN. UM, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT FRANKLY WE'RE CONCERN WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AT THIS JUNCTURE. BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS TO FIGURE, UM, OUT A COURSE OF ACTION TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO ISSUES. ALRIGHT. SO I'LL LEAVE THAT ON YOUR RADAR SCREEN, I THINK SECONDARILY. OKAY, SO NEXT I WOULD SAY I, THE TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING CONCERNS ME. SO I THINK WE SHOULD TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. UM, THAT STRIKES ME AS VERY LATE, UM, AND PROBLEMATIC. THEREFORE, UH, AND THEN THE LAST ITEM I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT INTERESTED AND I CAN'T SEE A FUTURE WHERE WE WOULD EVER BE INTERESTED IN AN ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT? UNDERSTOOD. UM, UM, GO AHEAD. YEAH, I'LL STOP THERE AND TURN TO COUNCIL MEMBER GARCE, BUT GO AHEAD IF YOU WANT, BEN. NO, NO, THAT, THAT'S, I, WE, WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. UM, AND YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT'S UNDERSTANDING YOUR POSITION AT THIS TIME. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MY CLIENTS AND I, UM, WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD REGARDLESS. UM, I'M SORRY, LET ME REPHRASE THAT. THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE WITHOUT AN ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT ENTERTAINMENT MAY BE IN THE, ON THE PLATE DOWN THE ROAD. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE TOWN POSSIBLY NOT HAVING ANY INTEREST IN THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE OKAY WITH. UM, BUT CANDIDLY, THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY, UNFORTUNATELY, REALLY LIQUOR LICENSES ARE BY AND LARGE NECESSARY FOR RESTAURANTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL ONCE THEY'RE DOING A FULL SERVICE. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WANT THIS TO BE A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT. UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PROBABLY COOL IS ESTIMATING THEY'RE LOSING, UM, TWO TO FOUR CUSTOMERS A DAY BY NOT HAVING THIS LICENSE. UM, IT'S SEVERELY INHIBITING THEIR ABILITY TO DO SIT DOWN SERVICE, WHICH THEY REALLY WANNA BE A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT AND NOT A CARRY OUT ESTABLISHMENT. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE APPLYING FOR THIS LICENSE. WE WANT TO BE A RESTAURANT FIRST AND FOREMOST. UM, MY CLI I WILL DISCUSS WITH MY CLIENTS, UM, THE HOURS, UM, AS I'M SURE THE COUNCIL CAN UNDERSTAND. UM, THAT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO DISCUSS WITH THEM, UM, BEFORE COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS. UM, BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM SOON AS THIS CALL IS OVER TONIGHT AND GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH MR. GALLOWAY ABOUT ANY CHANGE IN THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT THEY'VE AGREED TO. BUT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT THE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE BUSINESS LONG TERM. THEY'VE BEEN THERE SIX MONTHS, IT'S DOING WELL, BUT IT'S NOT DOING WELL ENOUGH AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE APPLYING FOR THIS LICENSE. YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, CANDOR. UH, WE VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT UPFRONT. AND, UH, WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL FULL SERVICE SIT DOWN RESTAURANT. I MEAN, SO I THINK WE'RE ABSOLUTELY ON THE SAME PAGE THERE. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED MORE OF. WE DON'T NEED MORE CARRY OUTS. AND SO, UM, UH, SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THERE. I WANT TO STOP TALKING AND TURN TO COUNCIL MEMBER GARCI OR COUNCIL MEMBER FRY FIRST AND THEN OTHERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. GAR, ARE YOU OUT THERE? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. OH, I'M SORRY. IT SOUNDS LIKE A MAJOR ECHO. YEAH. HOW YOU GUYS DOING? I'M COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO, UM, I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS, UH, THERE AT CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENTS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I OVERSEE [01:10:01] WARD FIVE. UM, SO ONE OF MY MAIN, MAIN CONCERNS THAT, UH, MAYOR, UH, MAYOR WATSON HAD, UH, POINTED OUT WAS THAT, UM, WE'VE HAD EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST IN WHICH, UH, PREVIOUS RESTAURANT, WELL, YEAH, PREVIOUS RESTAURANT THAT, UM, THAT OCCUPIED THAT, UM, THAT LOCATION WERE OVER POINT OR OVER SERVING ALCOHOL TO THE POINT WHERE THAT POURED INTO THE, UM, CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENTS PARKING LOT TO THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE WERE PARKING IN THE VISITOR CENTERS AND SLEEPING THERE OVERNIGHT JUST SO THEY WOULDN'T DRIVE AWAY DRUNK. THAT'S ONE OF MY THINGS, UM, THAT I, THAT I, THAT I, THAT I HIGHLY HAVE. UM, THINK ABOUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN ESTABLISHMENTS APPLY FOR THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE. SO YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH OF A GUARANTEE, RIGHT? WOULD YOU GUYS GIVE US THAT THIS WON'T BE A REPEAT OF THAT HULA. ARE YOU IN A, ARE YOU ABLE TO ANSWER THAT? CAN YOU GIVE THEM THEIR, YOUR ASSURANCES THAT YOU'LL BE SERVING RESPONSIBLY? KEEP IT CLOSE TO YOUR PAGE. OKAY. I, I USED TO LIVE IN APARTMENT BEFORE I BOUGHT THE HOUSE OVER THERE ON 64 27. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SEVEN YEARS. AND JUST LIKE MY LAWYER JUST SAID, WE'VE BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE FEBRUARY. NO PROBLEM AROUND ADULT. IT'S NOT FOR YOUNG PEOPLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE FOR MUTUAL PEOPLE, FAMILIES THAT WANTS TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LITTLE BIRTHDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHEN WE, AND ME AND MY SISTER GOING TO BE THERE ALL THE TIME. WE NOT LEAVING ANYBODY TO DO THE BUSINESS FOR US. AND PLEASE, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE IS PRO ON THIS, EVERYTHING. SO IT MEANS THAT. AND WHEN, WHEN SOMETHING MEANS SO MUCH TO YOU, YOU GOING TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL. AND POWER BE SUCCESSFUL IS FOLLOWING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS JUST TO KEEP THE BUSINESS GOING. SO YOU CAN HAVE, YOU HAVE MY WORD FOR THAT. YOU NOT GONNA BE HAVING ANY PROBLEM. UH, THE PREVIOUS OWNER, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DID IT, BUT I'VE HAD OTHER BUSINESSES BEFORE AND SUCCESS IS ALL I CAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN, I CAN SEE, I CAN'T SEE NOTHING ELSE. WELL, I, AND JUST IF I MAY ADD ONE NOTE TO THAT, UM, CANDIDLY, THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, UM, IN MAKING THE APPLICATION FOR A NEW LICENSE, UM, IS THAT THE OLD OWNER LIED TO MY CLIENT WHEN HE SOLD HIM THE BUSINESS. UM, AND I JUST WANT TO, I, I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE WAY THE OLD OWNER OPERATED HIS BUSINESS IS NOT THE WAY MY CLIENT'S GONNA OPERATE HIS BUSINESS. MY CLIENT, UM, I'VE KNOWN HIM NOW FOR A FEW MONTHS AND EVERYTHING I'VE TOLD HIM TO DO, HE HAS DONE WITHIN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OF ME TELLING HIM TO DO IT. UM, FROM OUR FIRST CONSULTATION, YOU KNOW, I SAID, HEY, I NEED X, Y, AND Z, X, Y, AND Z WERE HAND DELIVERED TO MY OFFICE WITHIN TWO HOURS. UM, I CAN'T SAY I'VE EVER HAD A CLIENT THAT'S BEEN THAT PROACTIVE BEFORE. AND I THINK HIS PROACTIVITY COUPLED WITH FRANKLY, THE EXPERIENCES THAT HAVE LED HIM TO HAVING TO APPLY FOR A NEW LICENSE, UM, AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY THAT HE AND HIS SISTER HAVE PUT INTO THE BUSINESS, THEY'RE BOTH THERE ABOUT 70 HOURS A WEEK. THEY'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THIS IS DONE PROPERLY. UM, THIS, WHEN HE SAYS THIS IS THEIR EVERYTHING, HE'S NOT EXAGGERATING. THIS REALLY IS THEIR EVERYTHING, AND THEY'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE PROPERLY BECAUSE THEIR LIVELIHOODS DEPEND ON IT. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, COUNCILMAN FRY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, OR PERHAPS OUR, UM, POLICE OFFICERS MIGHT KNOW THIS. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE BUS HOURS OF BUSINESS WAS FOR ANGELS WHEN THEY WERE OPERATING? AND ALSO HOW MANY CALLS OF SERVICE THEY HAD? I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, ABOUT THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT OFF HAND. UM, AND THEN ALSO WHAT KIND OF ATTEMPTS WE MADE TO, UH, ENFORCE IN THAT AREA WHEN IT CAME TO, I GUESS I WOULD SAY LIKE THE PUBLIC DRUNKENNESS THAT WE SAW OVERFLOWING INTO THAT PARKING LOT. UM, BECAUSE ONE, WELCOME HERE, UM, ALSO, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN IN CHEVROLET FOR QUITE SOME TIME ALREADY, SO IT'S NOT A WELCOME TO CHEVROLET NOW, BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR STAYING IN CHEVROLET AND THANK YOU FOR INVESTING HERE. UM, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAD A SUPER STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNERS. I KNOW WE'VE TRIED TO TALK TO THEM BEFORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAD THE FIRE THERE. AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A PERIOD WHERE THEIR BUSINESS WASN'T DOING TOO WELL AND THEY WERE TRYING, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GARNER MORE BUSINESS AND STUFF, AND WE WERE TRYING TO HELP WITH THAT. UM, BUT THEN I THINK THE, THE ALCOHOL ISSUES, BECAUSE OF THE OVER EXCESSIVE DRINKING, I THINK THAT WE STARTED TO SEE THERE, IT STARTED TO BECOME AN ISSUE. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW WE HANDLED THAT [01:15:01] BEFORE. UM, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SOME OF IT, UM, AND COUNCILOR REGARDS, MAYBE YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO, BUT WERE THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICES WERE, DID WE, DID WE GET CALLED TO THEM OR WAS THAT DURING A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN PGPD WAS RESPONDING? UM, I BELIEVE THAT WAS PG P UH, PGPD RESPONDING AT THE TIME. THAT'S WHEN WE WEREN'T OUR 24 HOUR. OKAY. SO I FEEL LIKE THAT ALONE CHANGES THE DYNAMICS BECAUSE AT THAT TIME WE DID NOT HAVE 24 HOURS. UM, SO PGPD RESPONDING, UH, IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN CPD RESPONDS, JUST BECAUSE I LIKE TO THINK OF OUR OFFICERS, UM, KIND OF PROVIDING MORE LIKE A WHITE GLOVE SERVICE, VERY COMMUNITY ORIENTED AND WANTING TO ENGAGE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS CAN THRIVE, BUT THAT THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE CAN THRIVE TOO. UM, SO THAT WAS JUST MY ONE QUESTION WAS MORE ABOUT THE HOURS, BECAUSE THE 2:00 AM I KNOW FOR THE COMMUNITY IS GONNA BE A CONCERN. UM, HOWEVER, FOR ME, IF THAT'S CONTROLLED WITHIN THE ESTABLISHMENT, OKAY. ENOUGH TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOWN HERE. THEY COME TO THE SHOP ALL THE TIME, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I APPRECIATE TOO, BECAUSE THEY WANT EVERYBODY TO FEEL COMFORTABLE. IF WE HAVING ANYTHING OVER THERE, I WILL ENGAGE THE POLICE TO BE AT MY DOOR, PAY THEM, BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYTHING TO BE PEACEFUL. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN ATTRACT THE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT WE WANTED AT THAT PLACE. WE NOT GOING BE HAVING ANY PROBLEM. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CRAZY. EVEN IF WE DOING ENTERTAINMENT, IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY FOR LIKE 35 AND OVER. IT'S NOT GONNA BE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, SORRY. WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M EXCITED. UM, I'M KIND OF SAD I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. IT'S ALREADY BEEN SIX MONTHS, SO I FEEL LIKE A VISIT IS LONG OVERDUE. UM, RIGHT NOW IN THE COUNTY AND IN CH WE REALLY DO NEED PEOPLE TO INVEST BACK IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. UM, AND SO I THINK FOR, FOR ME ESPECIALLY, I JUST, I WANNA SEE YOU GUYS THRIVE AND THE FACT, UM, THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, A MINORITY, MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS HERE IN THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY DURING A TIME WHEN WE ARE SEEING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THINGS LIKE THAT, BEING DISCOURAGED. UM, SO WHATEVER I CAN DO TO HELP AND BE SUPPORTIVE AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, ENJOY THE FOOD WHEN I COME BY. SO, , I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SPENDING YOUR EVENING WITH US, UM, AND JUST BEING HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS A SECOND THAT YEP. COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION. I ALSO AM VERY EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE. I AND UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT KNOW YOU WERE HERE, SO I'LL TRY TO COME IN THE, IN THE COMING WEEK. UM, WHAT IS YOUR SEATING CAPACITY PROJECTED TO BE? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PARKING SPOTS, BUT WHAT IS THE TOTAL, TOTAL CAPACITY? UH, 66. COUNCILMAN. OKAY. 66. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MR. WADE. UH, WELCOME. UM, NOT IN MY WARD, BUT IT'S LIKE, UH, WAS SAID HERE BEFORE, UH, FORTUNATELY NOT ONLY IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY OPTIONS, BUT, UM, JUST IN THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. SO, UH, I'M HERE AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, SUPPORT YOU, UM, IN THIS. WE ARE, AS YOU SEE THAT WE ARE VERY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. UM, ONE KEY QUESTION IS WHAT, NUMBER ONE, WHAT TYPE OF FOOD? WE, WE DIDN'T HEARD THAT YET. UM, IT'S, OH, COOL. I'LL LET YOU ANSWER THIS. YOU, YOU, YOU, IT'S YOUR FOOD. YEAH, IT'S AFRICAN, BUT IT'S UNIVERSAL. EVERYBODY EAT J LOVE RICE, EVERYBODY LIKE, YOU KNOW, SPICY CHICKEN, ALL THE GOOD STUFF. I WILL MAKE EVERYTHING FRESH EVERY DAY. SO FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS WHAT TYPE OF JOB? RICE, WHAT COUNTRY IS IT FROM? NIGERIA. OKAY. MY WIFE IS LIBERIAN, SO I DON'T KNOW , THAT'S, I'M JUST JOKING. BUT SERIOUSLY, UM, DEFINITELY LET US KNOW. UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, LET US KNOW. I'LL GIVE YOU MY CARD. I WILL SAY THAT, UM, ONE THING I AM BIG ON, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR BUSINESSES, UH, OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORTS YOU. WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL DO THE SAME EXACT THING. SO THE LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE'RE HAVING ACTIVITIES, I CHALLENGE YOU TO GET INVOLVED AND AS WELL AS GET INVOLVED WITH OUR YOUTH. IF YOU NEED HELP WITH THAT, UM, PLEASE LET US KNOW ABOUT THAT. SO SUPPORT THAT. OKAY? ALRIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. WELCOME AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ANY OTHER [01:20:01] QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. MAYOR COUNCIL, JUST SO YOU ALL AWARE, UM, ATTORNEY EDDIE POUNDS REPRESENTS THE TOWN OF CHEVROLET ON THESE MATTERS. UM, ATTORNEY JASON DELOACH IS THE LIQUOR BOARD ATTORNEY AND CANNOT BE INVOLVED ON THIS MATTER. SO, UM, THE PERSON THAT HAS HELPED US OUT TRADITIONALLY ON THESE MATTERS IS ATTORNEY 80 POUNDS, 80, UH, ATTORNEY POUNDS IS AWARE OF THIS MATTER. AND, UM, AFTER WE DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, AND A FAVORABLE OR, OR OPPOSITION, UH, ANY PE ATTORNEY PE WILL BE THE FIRST TO KNOW. UM, AND I WILL WAIT UNTIL I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ATTORNEY CARTER TO SEE HOW THEY MODIFY THEIR HOURS. AND THEN I'LL CALL EACH ONE OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY TO TRY TO GET A STRAW POLL. BUT JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, I WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU AS SOON AS I HEAR, UH, WHAT THE MODIFIED HOURS WILL BE MOVING FORWARD. UH, MR. MAYOR? YES. MR. DELOACH? YES. UH, YEAH. UM, WHEN I FIRST STARTED REPRESENTING CHEVROLET, UM, I, AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED, I, UH, UH, ADVISED MR. GALLOWAY TO GET SEPARATE ATTORNEY. I DON'T TAKE ACTION FOR THE LIQUOR BOARD. SO ONCE I GET INTO A SITUATION LIKE THIS, I DO NOT, I RECUSE MYSELF FROM THE BOARD ALSO, SO I WOULD NOT BE ADVISING THE LIQUOR BOARD ON THIS MATTER EITHER. SO, UM, SO I JUST HAVE TO STEP AWAY TOTALLY . SO I CAN'T ADVANCE THE INTEREST OF THE BOARD. I CAN'T GIVE THEM ANY LEGAL ADVICE ON THIS MATTER. SAME WITH, WITH THE TOWN OF CH. SO, ALL RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. I'LL TELL YOU THIS, MR. CARTER'S AN EXCELLENT ATTORNEY, , I SEE HIM OFTEN AT THE LIQUOR BOARD, SO, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU. MR. DELO. MM-HMM . UH, OKAY. SO MR. GALLOWAY, I THINK THE ACTION IS WITH YOU TO, UH, BE IN TOUCH WITH MR. CARTER AND THEN ATTORNEY CARTER AND THEN, UH, ATTORNEY EDDIE POUNDS. AND, UM, THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM YOU IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, INDIVIDUALLY, I IMAGINE COUNSEL, WE WILL BE SENDING A LETTER TO THE BOARD OF LICENSED COMMISSIONERS AHEAD OF THEIR HEARING, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ON THE 28TH TUESDAY. THAT THAT IS CORRECT, MR. MAYOR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER FRY. SO ARE WE GIVING ANY KIND OF GUIDELINES AS TO WHAT WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH? IF WE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH 2:00 AM UH, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. YEAH. WHAT, UH, I MEAN, MIDNIGHT KIND OF JUMPS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER FRY. SO WOULD THE 2:00 AM BE MONDAY THROUGH LIKE EVERY DAY, OR WOULD IT JUST BE LIKE FRIDAY, SATURDAY OR SO? PROBABLY THE WEEKENDS, BUT WHAT WOULD THE WEEKNIGHTS BE? SO, SO IDEALLY YOU ARE SAYING THAT IF IN IN AN IDEAL WORLD YOU WOULD LIKE 12:00 AM FOR A MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY OR SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. CAN YOU USE THE MIC? SORRY. OKAY. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU SAY YOU CLOSE AT 12 O 12 MIDNIGHT, THERE MUST STILL BE SOME PEOPLE THERE TILL O'CLOCK. SO, YES. SO, UM, COOL. WE'LL, UM, DISCUSS THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND THE BOARD'S POLICIES WITH THIS AS WELL. UM, BECAUSE YOUR CLOSING TIME WILL NEED TO BE FIRM REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS WITH THE LIQUOR BOARD. SO, UM, WE'LL, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS WHAT THE TIME TO CLOSE WOULD BE. UM, BUT BECAUSE THAT WILL HAVE TO BE A FIRM TIME, WHICH MEANS BASICALLY TABLE, YOU KNOW, TABLES ON OR CHAIRS ON THE TABLE AND CUSTOMERS OUT THE DOOR, RIGHT. AS OPPOSED TO THE KITCHEN CLOSING OR THE BAR NOT SUR UH, LAST CALL. YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY. THAT'S WORD DISTINCTION I GUESS. YES. OKAY. UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE TABLE FROM THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING ON THIS TOPIC? ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT SOME QUICK WORK TO DO THEN BETWEEN NOW AND TUESDAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING, OR THANK YOU EVERYONE DOUBLING YOUR INVOLVEMENT. , THANK, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. [01:25:05] ALRIGHT, UM, UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS KELLER CONSTRUCTION. SO, UH, THIS AGAIN CONCERNS THE ONGOING, UH, CONSTRUCTION FINALIZATION OF THE ELE BUILDING. UM, WELL, SHALL WE TURN TO KELLER AND, UH, HAVE THEM KICK IT OFF? OR DO YOU WANNA START MR. GALLOWAY? LET THEM KICK IT OFF. ALRIGHT, SO, UH, I'M SORRY I CAN'T SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN, BUT IF YOU CAN START OFF WITH AN UPDATE OF WHAT HAS PROGRESSED SINCE, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO AND, UH, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN WHAT I HOPE ARE THE FINAL 24 DAYS OF THIS ODYSSEY. UH, OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? YES. OKAY, GOOD. WELL, GOOD EVENING. UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE MADE PROGRESS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. THE, THE MOST NOTABLE WAS THAT THE WSSC REQUEST FOR SERVICE WAS APPROVED THIS PAST TUESDAY, THE 21ST. THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT ESTABLISHED THE FIRST DATE THAT WE, UH, DISCUSSED FOR UNO WAS BASED ON RECEIVING THAT PERMISSION ON THE SIXTH. SO WE DID LOSE TIME TO THAT ORIGINAL, UM, THE ORIGINAL PUBLISHED DATE, OUR CURRENT PUBLISHED DATE RIGHT NOW IS DECEMBER 3RD. UM, IMMEDIATELY AFTER WE GOT PERMISSION TO, UH, PUT THE WATER LINE IN SERVICE THE NEXT DAY WE HAD PLUMBERS ON SITE, WE WERE ABLE TO START THE INSTALLATION. UM, THAT PROGRESSED THROUGH TODAY AND TOMORROW WE HAVE THE, UH, WSSC WATER FLUSH TEST INSPECTION, UM, WHICH WILL COMPLETE THAT COMPONENT. SO WE'LL HAVE WATER TO THE BUILDING. THE, THE BIG, UH, THE BIGGEST, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST NUT TO CRACK ONCE WE GOT WATER IN THE BUILDING THAT RELEASED A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT CAN NOW GET STARTED IN COMPLETING THE PHYSICAL WORK THAT IS THEN REQUIRED TO HAVE IN PLACE FOR FINAL INSPECTIONS. SO WE'RE, WE'RE FITTING OUT THE WA THE WATER ROOM, WE'RE PUTTING ON FLOW AND TAMPERS, WE'RE GONNA COMPLETE THE FIRE ALARM CONTROL PROGRAMMING. UM, AND THEN WE CAN START, UH, THE, THE FINAL INSPECTION PROCESS. MOST OF IT IS THIRD PARTY. SOME OF IT IS THROUGH THE STATE AND SOME OF IT IS, IS THROUGH LIKE, UH, THE FIRE MARSHALS, UM, OFFICE. SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE AT, AT THE MOMENT OF TODAY, AS OF TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO ARE, ARE WE ALL, WE'RE ALL SET AND DONE ON THE WSSC SIDE OF THE LEDGER TO TOMORROW IS THE FINAL, UH, THE FINAL, UM, INSPECTION, BUT WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR THEM FOR ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. THEY, THEY RELEASED US ON TUESDAY, SO NOW IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UM, CHECKING OUT WHAT WE'VE DONE AND VERIFYING THAT THE WATER, UH, THE FLOW TEST IS POSITIVE. UH, OKAY. SO, UH, ARE WE, OR HOW WOULD YOU, HOW WOULD YOU SAY WE'RE ON TRACK TO GET A UNO IN THE NEXT THREE OR THREE AND A HALF WEEKS? UM, I DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME. IT, OUR CURRENT DATE FOR THAT IS DECEMBER 3RD, SO IT'S GONNA BE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 WEEKS. OKAY. THAT'S, UM, YEAH, SORRY, MR. GALLOWAY, I'LL TURN TO YOU. I, I, THAT IS, THAT IS, UM, TWO WEEKS LATER THAN I WAS TRACKING. UH, I WAS TRACKING LIKE THE MONDAY OF THANKSGIVING WEEK. BUT MR. GALLOWAY, GO AHEAD. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE TRACKING THE WEEK AFTER. UM, SO, SO WE HAVE SIX MORE WEEKS OF WORK TO DO. DO YOU, MAYBE IT WOULD HELP BE HELPFUL IF YOU JUST OUTLINE WHAT, YOU KNOW, NOT DAY BY DAY, BUT JUST KIND OF IN, IN 30 SECONDS, WHAT HAS TO HAP WHAT SURE. WHAT THE NEXT SIX WEEKS NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO GET US TO A UNL. SURE. UM, BEFORE I DO THAT, I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS YOUR FIRST COMMENT ABOUT THE DATE MOVING. WE, WE ASSUMED WSCS REQUEST FOR SERVICE APPROVAL WAS GONNA BE ON THE SIXTH. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE 21ST. SO THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE PUSHED OUR UNO DATE IS BASED ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SIXTH AND THE 21ST. THE PHYSICAL WORK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO PROGRESS THE JOB COULDN'T START UNTIL WATER WAS FLOWING. AND THAT ESSENTIALLY STARTED YESTERDAY ON THE 22ND. SO WE CONNECTED THE WATER LINE. UM, [01:30:01] WE'RE GOING TO THEN CONNECT THE SEWER LINE, GET IT INSPECTED TOMORROW. THAT RELEASES THE FIT OUT OF THE PLUMBING ROOM, WHICH IS THE BACKFLOW PREVENTER, THE WATER VALVE, THE WATER HEATER FLOW AND TAMPER SWITCHES. THE, THOSE ARE PHYSICAL PARTS, UM, THAT THEY'RE BOLTED TOGETHER. THE ELECTRICIAN THEN INSTALLS SOME, SOME DEVICES ON THE WATER LINES TO MEASURE FLOW RATES. THAT GETS PROGRAMMED INTO THE FIRE ALARM CONTROL PANEL, WHICH HAS TO BE DONE PRIOR TO DOING FILE INSPECTIONS. THAT, UM, SERIES OF EVENTS IS REALLY THE, THE CRITICAL PATH TO GET FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY TO GETTING THE START OF THE INSPECTION PROCESS. AND SO THERE'S A PLUMBING FINAL, THERE'S AN ELECTRICAL FINAL, AN ELEVATOR FINAL, UH, BUILDING FINAL, AND THERE'S A, AN ORDER IN WHICH THEY INCUR. THERE'S A FIRE ALARM FINAL, WHICH INCLUDES COMPONENTS OF ELECTRICAL AS WELL AS ELEVATOR. 'CAUSE ELEVATOR RECALL, UM, IN THE EVENT OF A FIRE ALARM, UH, HAS TO BE TESTED BY BOTH THE ELECTRICIAN AND THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE ELEVATOR INSPECTOR. SO YOU GO THROUGH THE SERIES OF INSPECTIONS THAT PIGGYBACK ON EACH OTHER AND ONE WANTS TO SEE THE, THE POSITIVE RESULTS OF THE PRIOR ONE, AND YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROGRESSION. UH, THE PHYSICAL WORK THAT WE, WE NEED TO DO IS PROBABLY ABOUT HALF OF THE SIX WEEKS. IT'S ABOUT THREE WEEKS WORTH OF PHYSICAL, GETTING THINGS CONNECTED AND TESTED AND, AND, UM, PROGRAMMED. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING TIME IS COORDINATING FOR ALL OF THE FINALS IN THE ORDER THAT THEY, UH, THAT THEY NEED TO COME IN. ALRIGHT. UH, MR. GALLOWAY, OR IF MR. CARDNIS IS ON ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE, FROM THE TOWN TEAM? I DON'T THINK, UH, CPM IS ON. I MEAN, UM, I DON'T THINK CPJ IS ON, UH, COUNT. COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? MR. TANZI? UH, LAST TIME YOU, UH, GAVE US AN UPDATE. I ASKED ABOUT THE FIELDS AND THE, UM, THE DESIGN I HAD SEEN THAT HAD A 190 FOOT LONG, WELL, TWO 190 FOOT LONG, UH, U 11 SOCCER FIELDS. HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK WHERE THE GRADING STARTS ON THE FIELD AND IF IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT ENTIRE LENGTH? I CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THAT. UM, SO FOLLOWING OR HEARING YOUR COMMENT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, UM, I WENT OUT AND, UH, ON THE DESIGN PLANS, IT DOES SHOW THOSE 2 190 FOOT FIELDS ON THE DESIGN PLANS FOR THIS BUILDING WAS SHOWN ON THERE. SO, UM, FROM THE DESIGN PLANS, I SCALED THE DISTANCE FROM THE BUILDING TO THE EDGE OF THE RUNOUT FOR THIS FIELD, WHICH IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT 190 FOOT BEAT. UM, AND I PULLED THOSE DISTANCES FROM THE BUILDING OUT THERE AND PUT PIN FLAG. AND NOW IT'S NOT AS EXACT AS A TRUE SURVEY, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE. UM, AND SO LOOKING AT THE GRADING, MOST OF THE, THE RUNOUT GRADING LOOKS FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE FIELD GRADING. THERE'S ONE PIN FLAG THAT'S NEAR ONE OF THE MANHOLES, UM, THAT IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT STEEPER WITHIN THE RUNOUT AREA. UM, I DID BRING THAT TO KELLER'S ATTENTION AND ASKED THEM TO, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT MANHOLE THERE ANYWAYS, AND MAKING A CHANGE THERE TO INCLUDE THAT TO HELP GET THE, KEEP THE SMOOTH GRADING THROUGH THE RUNOUT AND THEN TAPER THE GRADE IN A LITTLE BIT, UM, A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER IF POSSIBLE. UM, BUT WITHIN THE 190 FOOT, UH, WHICH INCLUDES YOUR TWO RUN OUTS, UM, IT'S FAIRLY FLAT OUT THERE, BUT THE PIN FLAGS ARE STILL OUT THERE. UM, AND I PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION TO, UM, TO THE TOWN, UH, TEAM, UH, WITH PHOTOS AND EVERYTHING. SO I, I JUST GOT THAT TO THEM LATE TODAY. SO, UM, FOR THEM TO LOOK AT AND THEN THEY COULD, UH, SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL AS WELL. SO IF YOU KIND OF SEE THOSE PHOTOS WHERE THE PIN FLAGS ARE IN RELATIONSHIP. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KELLER AT THIS POINT? MR. WADE? YEAH, I'M NOT, I WANNA MAKE SURE I APOLOGIZE. I WASN'T FULLY LISTENED TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TANZIS QUESTION. UM, BUT I WAS ON THE FIELD THE OTHER DAY. UM, IS THE CURRENT TRACK THE PART FOR NUMBER ONE, JUST CLARIFICATION? YOU CAN, ARE YOU, YOU'RE NOT DOING THE ENTIRE TRACK, SO IT'LL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT GRADES. CORRECT? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE IS NOT PART OF THE CONTRACT. THAT, THAT'S CORRECT. THE CURRENT WE'RE DONE WITH THE TRACK FOR THE CURRENT WORK. SO HOW IT LOOKS TODAY IS, IS WHAT THE DRAWINGS CALLED FOR AND WHAT THE WAS FOR. YEAH. SO THAT'S, I GUESS THE FOLLOW UP IS THAT, [01:35:01] SO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACK, 'CAUSE I I WAS OVER THERE ON SATURDAY, ON WEDNESDAY WAS DARK, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACK IS ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE THAT GOES AROUND. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT FENCE IS TEMPORARY AND IT'S GONNA COME DOWN AND THE CURRENT PATHWAY THAT WAS INSTALLED FOR CONSTRUCTION WILL BE REMOVED SO THAT THE, THE TRACK AS YOU SEE IT NOW, OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE FROM THE FIELDS, THE, THE FENCE GOES AWAY AND SO THE TRACK WILL BE PART OF THE PARK AGAIN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KELLER? ALRIGHT, SO WE WILL SEE YOU IN, UH, ON NOVEMBER 13TH FOR THE NEXT UPDATE. HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE AT THAT POINT ONLY THREE WEEKS AWAY. UH, COUNSEL, OUR OBJECTIVE IS STILL TO HOLD AN OA PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE AT THE BUILDING FOR TWO OR THREE HOURS ON A WEEKDAY BEFORE THE, UM, THE LA THE HOLIDAYS. UM, AND, BUT WE CAN'T ANNOUNCE, WE WE'RE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, CHARLIE BROWN THIS FOOTBALL ANYMORE. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA ANNOUNCE AN OPEN HOUSE UNTIL WE HAVE THE UNO. SO THAT MIGHT BE A CLOSE THING, UH, TO SCHEDULE. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THE OPEN HOUSE BEFORE THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. MR. WADE, JUST A REMINDER, MAYOR, THAT WE ARE ON THE HOOK FOR JANUARY P-G-C-M-A MEETING AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT MEETING IN THE NEW ELI BUILDING. SO YES, THAT IS ALSO A KEY PRIORITY OF MINE AS WELL. UH, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR COMING AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. I'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. ALRIGHT, UH, ITEM NINE, TAX EXEMPTION FOR 100% SERVICE CONNECTED DISABLED VETERANS, MR. GALLOWAY, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO TAX EXEMPTIONS FOR DISABLED VETERANS. INFORMATION REGARDING PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS FOR DISABLED VETERANS WILL SOON BE AVAILABLE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE. I'M WORKING WITH STAFF TO CREATE A DEDICATED PAGE THAT OUTLINES ELIGIBILITY AND APPLICATION PROCEDURES FOR THIS. UM, WE WILL WORK DIRECTLY WITH SA, UH, TO GET THE FORMS, THE PROPER FORMS ONLINE SO THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN APPLY DIRECTLY WITH SA . AFTER THEY APPLY DIRECTLY WITH, UH, SA, THEY WILL CONTACT THE COUNTY AND THE PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE EXEMPT. SO OUTSIDE OF, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE QUESTIONS IF THE TOWN NEEDED TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS, THE ANSWER IS NO. WE JUST NEED TO ADVERTISE THE PROGRAM. NOW, ONE THING I WILL SAY IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE ONE, 100% DISABLED AND IF YOU ARE, THEN YOU KNOW, YOUR PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE EXEMPT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FINES AND FEES FOR THE COUNTY. SO THOSE, YOU KNOW, WILL CONTINUE TO GET PROCESSED, BUT PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE EXEMPTED. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE THERE. COUNCIL MEMBER FRY, MR. GALLWAY, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, IT'S FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT PERMANENT, A HUNDRED PERCENT DISABLED, SO IT'S NOT JUST A HUNDRED PERCENT DISABLED, ALTHOUGH I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF, BUT I THINK WHEN THEY SPEAK ABOUT IT, IT'S PERMANENTLY DISABLED. YES, CORRECT. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? SORRY? ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR? COUNCIL MEMBER FRY, THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS RESOLVED QUICKLY. EXCELLENT. ALRIGHT, ITEM 10. THIS IS THE PLANNING BOARD QUESTIONS FOR THE HOSPITAL HILL DEVELOPERS HOME TEAM FIVE, COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI. IS THIS YOUR ITEM? UH, THIS IS MY ITEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PRINTOUT OF THE QUESTIONS EVERYONE HAS, UM, HAS GOTTEN THEM. THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD WOULD LIKE US TO SEND THE ENTIRE SET OF QUESTIONS TO, UH, THE DEVELOPER. THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD ON THAT IS THAT THE QUESTIONS COME WITH AN INTRODUCTION THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO, UH, MODIFY, YOU KNOW, IN-HOUSE BEFORE SENDING IT, JUST SO THAT IT'S CLEAR WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, GET FROM THEM. THE, I'M FORGETTING THE EXACT LANGUAGE, UM, RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT MISLEADING, UM, AND THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR BINDING, UM, COMMITMENTS, BUT MORE BEST PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UM, IF EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST HAD THE CHANCE TO SEE THE QUESTIONS, BUT IF, UH, THERE'S NOT, UH, ANY OBJECTION OR AMENDMENTS, [01:40:01] MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE SEND THE ENTIRE SET TO, UH, THE DEVELOPER WITH WHATEVER INTRODUCTION, MR. GALLAWAY AND MAYBE THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR THINK IS APPROPRIATE. NONE. COUNCIL, ANY UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER TANZIS APPROACH? HEARING NONE UNANIMOUS CONSENT. GO FORTH. OKAY. ITEM 11, BIKE TRAIL UPDATE. MR. GALLOWAY, MAYOR COUNCIL, I JUST HAVE A REAL BRIEF UPDATE FOR YOU ALL THIS EVENING. UM, WE SUBMITTED THE UPDATED WORK PLAN TO MOT TODAY. UH, PAPERWORK HAS ALREADY BEEN STARTED AND MS. PROM IS WAITING FOR EDITS FOR MARYLAND NATIONAL CAPITAL PARK AND PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, THE KICKOFF MEETING WILL BE SCHEDULED FOLLOWING THE MDOT REVIEW, SOMETIMES WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 BUSINESS DAYS. AND THIS IS FOR THE, UH, KIM? YEAH, KIM LAPIERRE, OUR GRANT, UH, I I AM RIGHT NOW IN NEGOTIATION WITH, UH, ANOTHER ENTITY RIGHT NOW THAT COULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO SCHUSTER DRIVE AFTER THOSE NEGOTIATIONS ARE FINALIZED. I WILL BRING THAT FORWARD, BUT I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF CONNECTING, UM, WHERE I'M NEGOTIATING AT. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE FOR A BIKE TRAIL UPDATE TODAY. SO WE COULD HAVE BIKE TRAIL CONNECTIONS TO BOTH THE NORTHERN AND THE SOUTHERN AND OF THE HOSPITAL HILL DEVELOPMENT. CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE TRULY AMAZING. COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT OUR LONG SUFFERING QUEST FOR A BIKE TRAIL? , MR. TANZI JUST, UH, SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF IT. SO I'M VERY EXCITED, UH, ABOUT THIS PROSPECT. SEVERAL HUGE FANS AT THE TABLE. UM, OKAY, THAT IS GREAT. UH, WE ARE ON TO ITEM 12, THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR'S UPDATE. OKAY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. JUST A FEW UPDATES THAT I'LL BE PROVIDING. TOWN PARK CLOSURE. UH, THE, THE FIELD AND TRACK WILL BE CLOSED ON THIS SUNDAY, OCTOBER THE 26TH FOR A SPECIAL EVENT. UH, BOTH FACILITIES WILL REOPEN ON MONDAY, OCTOBER THE 27TH. UM, THIS IS FOR A SPECIAL EVENT THAT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF APPLYING FOR THIS WELL OVER 90 DAYS AND GETTING THE PROPER APPROVAL AND PROCEDURES FOR THIS. UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ARE WELL AWARE OF THE EVENT. IT IS A HOWARD HOMECOMING, UM, UH, CELEBRATION ON THE DAY AFTERWARDS, UM, HOSTED BY A CH RESIDENT. SO, UM, THAT WILL BE HAPPENING ON SUNDAY, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THIS SUCH EVENT HAPPENED LAST YEAR IN THE OLD FOURTH WARD AT BOARD PARK. UM, SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE SUPPORTING THEM THIS YEAR AT TOWN PARK AND, UM, TOWN STAFF ARE AWARE OF THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THAT? OKAY, SO JUST MOVING FORWARD, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, REAL QUICK. OKAY. IS THERE A A TIME IT'S ENDS OR WHAT ENDS THE NOISE? IT ENDS, ENDS AT 6:00 PM OKAY, GOOD. WHICH IS WHEN THE PARK CLOSES, BECAUSE IT STARTS, WHAT TIME? IT STARTS, I THINK NOON. YEAH, BUT I THINK THE PARK'S CLOSED ALL DAY IN THE FIELD. YEAH, CORRECT. YEAH. OH, I, YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. I'M MORE FOCUSED ON THE PARK CLOSURE. SORRY. OKAY. . OKAY. THE, UH, GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN AND LAYOFF RESOURCE, UH, EVENT THAT WE WILL BE HAVING. IT WILL BE ON NOVEMBER THE FOURTH AT 1230. UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, WHENEVER YOU GET THE FLYER, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY RECEIVED THE NEWS AND ANNOUNCEMENT, PLEASE GET THAT OUT TO YOUR NETWORK. UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH YOU, OUR UTILITY COMPANIES AND STATE AND COUNTY PARTNERS TO HAVE RESOURCES HERE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY, UH, THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN OR THE LAYOFFS. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS WEEK WE WILL HA ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER THE 25TH AT 2:00 PM UH, THAT THE REC COUNCIL WILL HAVE A PARADE FROM CHEESE PARK AND IT WILL CON CONCLUDE AT TOWN HALL. UM, PUBLIC WORKS [01:45:01] AND POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE AWARE AND WILL BE WORKING THE EVENT. MR. WADE, JUST AS THE, UH, LIAISON FOR THE REC COUNCIL, JUST WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS, UM, THE ACTING CHIEF AND HER, HER STAFF FOR, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE ARE, ARE GUIDED DOWN FROM THE PART. JUST EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT BEING THERE AT 2:00 PM IT WILL START AT TWO AND IT WILL END VERY FAST. SO PLEASE GET THE KIDDOS OUT THERE AT TWO O'CLOCK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DAY, UH, 2026. UM, MS. BELL WILL BE WITH US AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION. UH, SHELBY DAY WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER THE 26TH. 2026, AND WE WILL BE CELEBRATING 95 YEARS OF EXISTENCE. SO THAT WILL BE A PARADE YEAR. UM, BUT MS. BILL WILL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE MORE ON WHAT HER EXPECTATIONS ARE OF CH DAY 2026. AND MAYOR AND COUNSEL, THE LEGIT ANNUAL MEETING WILL BE ON NOVEMBER THE 13TH. IF YOU HAVE AVAILABILITY OUR TIME, PLEASE ATTEND. UM, THIS YEAR STEAM WILL BE A EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND PREPAREDNESS. UH, THAT MEETING IS SCHEDULED AT THE CROWN PLAZA IN ANNAPOLIS FROM 9:00 AM TO 3:00 PM WOULD LOVE THE SUPPORT IF YOU ALL COULD ATTEND. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN ON BEING A BOARD MEMBER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN COORDINATION WITH THE RDA ON TRYING TO MITIGATE A LOT OF THE TRASH DROP OFFS THAT HAVE HAPPENED ALONG HOSPITAL DRIVE. UM, SO THE RDA HAS INSTALLED A FENCE ALONG HOSPITAL DRIVE. UM, WE HOPE THAT THIS WILL MITIGATE THE, UH, DUMPING EFFORTS, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND INVESTIGATE AS IT HAPPENS. UM, THE RDA HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER IN ALONG THIS PROCESS AS IT RELATES TO THE BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE. UH, THE BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE EVENT WILL BE ON NOVEMBER 19TH AT 12:30 PM UM, WE'VE ALREADY CONTACTED OVER 50 BUSINESSES HERE IN THE TOWN OF CHEVROLET, AND THERE HAS BEEN AN EXCITEMENT FOR, UH, SUCH EVENT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, I USED TO BE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. UH, SO I'M EXCITED TO BRING, UH, OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS HERE TO BUILD OUR, GROW UPON OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM. SO THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO EXPANDING OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY HERE. AS IT RELATES TO THE COLUMBIA PARK ROAD CAMERAS A TO, ACCORDING TO OUR VENDOR, UH, RED LIGHT CAMERAS SHOULD BE INSTALLED ON POLES NEXT WEEK AT THIS TIME. PRAISE THE LORD ON COLUMBIA PARK ROAD. AND THAT'S AS OF A CONVERSATION I HAD RIGHT BEFORE THIS MEETING WITH OUR VENDOR. UM, SO IF THEY DON'T HAPPEN, LET ME KNOW. . UM, BUT THEY WON'T BE CONNECTED TO POWER. PEPCO WILL STILL BE WORKING WITH, THEY'LL BE INSTALLED, THEY'LL BE INSTALLED, UH, BUT THEY WON'T BE CONNECTED TO POWER. AND AS SOON AS THEY ARE CONNECTED TO POWER, UM, WE WILL PUT OUT THE PROPER NOTICES THAT WE HAVE TO AS A MUNICIPALITY TO ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE RED LIGHTS CAMERA. THIS IS AT THE, TURN YOUR MIC ON. THIS IS AT THE 50 INTERCHANGE. YES. YEAH. THE TOWN WILL HOST ITS ANNUAL TURKEY DRIVE ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER THE 21ST AT 5:30 PM IT WILL BE HELD HERE AT TOWN HALL AND AT CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENTS IN THE PARKING LOT. THIS YEAR WE RECEIVED $5,000 FROM AMAZON TO, UH, PURCHASE TURKEYS AND DO THE DISTRIBUTION. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. HOPE YOU CAN ATTEND IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE. MR. WADE, WILL THERE NEED TO BE ANY REGISTRATION? JUST FIRST COME FIRST. FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE RECEIVED A RETALIATION GRANT, TRAINING GRANT FROM LEGIT, UM, OH, WELL, NOT HOW TO RETALIATE, BUT , BUT HOW TO KNOW IF YOU'RE BEING RETALIATED AGAINST. RIGHT. OKAY, . SO THIS IS, UH, AN EDUCATIONAL AND AND AWARENESS GRANT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IF YOU ALL ARE AVAILABLE TO ATTEND, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND, UH, THIS WILL BE ON NOVEMBER THE FIFTH AT 2:00 PM [01:50:08] TWO HOURS. OKAY. UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO DOUBLE TEAM THIS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI. AND I DO HAVE DEPUTY ASSISTANT CHIEF WHO JUST WALKED IN, ACTING CHIEF, JUST WALKED IN, SO I'LL NEED SOME ASSISTANCE FROM, FROM HER AS WELL. BUT, UM, FOLLOWING AN, AN INCREASE IN UNWANTED DRUG RELATED ACTIVITY NEAR TRENT STREET, RESIDENTS OF THE OLD FOURTH WARD HAVE REQUESTED THAT THE TOWN, UH, PROVIDE ACTIVE, UH, FUNCTIONAL CAMERAS ON BOTH POLES ON TRENT STREET. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, OR YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, I CAN TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS, BUT IN 2020, WE HAD A LOT OF CHALLENGES AT THE BOTTOM OF TRENT STREET AS IT RELATE RELATED TO UNWANTED ACTIVITIES SUCH AS, UM, THAT WERE CARS THAT WERE BEING BURNED, ALL TYPES OF CRIME HAPPENING THERE AT THE BOTTOM. AND ONE ENDED UP IN A HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION. SO, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, AFTER ATTENDING THE MEETING, THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST FOR FUNCTION CAMERAS SO THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN RESPOND AND A PROPER WAY. UM, HOWEVER THAT, THAT COMES WITH A PRICE TAG. UM, IN 2020, WE PAID ABOUT $11,000 FOR THE CAMERAS. RIGHT NOW, THE CAMERAS PLUS THE INSTALLATION, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR VENDOR, WILL BE ABOUT $29,400. UM, AND THAT'S FOR BOTH CAMERAS. UM, I DEFINITELY, BECAUSE OF THE AREA, BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, I, I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME TYPE OF CAMERA. I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CHIEF AND THE DEPUTY CHIEF TO SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER VENDORS THAT CAN PROVIDE BETTER CAMERA OPTIONS AS FAR AS PRICE AND FEASIBILITY. BUT WE, WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDRESSING THIS MATTER AS IT IS BECOMING A CONCERN ALONG THE OLD FOURTH WARD. AND I'LL TURN THIS OVER NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI. AND IF ACTING CHIEF KRAUSE HAS ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO SUPPORT, THEN PLEASE ADD. UM, I'LL JUST ADD THAT WE DID HAVE A FOURTH WARD CIVIC ASSOCIATION MEETING ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY ABOUT, UH, SECURITY CONCERNS, UH, AROUND TRENT STREET. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CAPTURED ACTIVITY ON THEIR, UM, YOU KNOW, FRONT DOOR CAMERAS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT IS, IT IS, IT IS FELT AS A VERY PRESSING MATTER THERE. AND THOUGH THEY, UH, NO ONE SAID THIS OUTRIGHT, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE CAMERAS THAT DON'T WORK AND THAT STOPPED WORKING PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER THEY WERE INSTALLED DOES NOT, UM, MAKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE GETTING THE TYPE OF SERVICE THEY NEED, UH, FROM THE TOWN. YEAH. UH, CAN I JUST ASK HOW ARE THE CAMERAS, UH, MONITORED? OR WHAT, WHAT IS, UM, LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE VIDEO FEED? IT'LL GO INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR INTO THE ACTUAL CELL PHONE OF THE SERGEANT THAT'S WORKING. OH. BUT WITH THESE CAMERAS, YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF ACTUALLY SPEAKING FROM AN INTERCOM FROM THE, FROM THE CAMERA IN THE EVENT SOMETHING IS GOING ON. MM-HMM. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER FRY. UM, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WITH THE CAMERAS THAT WE HAD INSTALLED, I BELIEVE AFTER THE FACT, I HEARD THAT THEY WEREN'T GREAT CAMERAS. UM, AND THAT THE QUALITY AND STUFF WASN'T, LIKE, THE PICTURE QUALITY STUFF WASN'T THAT GREAT. SO THAT MIGHT ALSO BE THE VERY, LIKE WITH THE PRICE TAG. SO IF WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE'RE INVESTING IN EQUIPMENT WISE, THAT WE'RE GETTING QUALITY THINGS BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOES PLAY A DETERRENCE JUST BEING THERE. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WANT IT TO ACTUALLY BE USEFUL SO WE CAN CAPTURE THINGS. I CAN VOUCH FOR THE LEVEL OF QUALITY THAT, UH, WE WOULD BE GETTING. JUST 'CAUSE WE HAVE PURCHASED, UH, THOSE TRAILER CAMERAS THAT ARE AT HOSPITAL HILL. NOW, THE NEWER ONES NOT NEWER. THE ONES THAT I GET NEWER, WELL, UH, NOT THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE POLE, BUT NO, NOT THE ONE THAT'S ON 2 0 2. OKAY. BUT THE ONES THAT ARE AT OKAY. HOSPITAL HILL. SO THEY'RE THOSE CALIBER, THOSE THREE CAMERAS ARE OURS AND THEY HAVE HIGH QUALITY, UH, OKAY. VISIBILITY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. SO COUNSEL, ANY CONCERNS FROM YOU ABOUT HAVING ON YOUR AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER 13? A PROCUREMENT, UH, UM, [01:55:01] PERMISSION TO SPEND THIS MONEY? IT'S NOT A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET, BUT YOU WOULD BE ASKED TO CAST A VOTE TO EMPOWER THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE THIS PROCUREMENT. IT WOULD BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT. OH, IT'S A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. NO, IT WOULDN'T. NOW YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION. . YEAH, THIS WOULD BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE DID NOT BUDGET FOR. WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE GETTING THESE CAMERAS THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO YEAH, I, I WOULD ASK FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THIS PROJECT. PERHAPS WE CAN WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER AND THEN SELL THE HALLOWEEN DECORATIONS. I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY GET PRETTY CLOSE TO 30 K. UM, ALRIGHT. SO, UM, UH, ALRIGHT. SO IS, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS? I'M JUST JOKING, , ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, ALRIGHT, SO OUR COUNCIL, ARE YOU OKAY HAVING THIS ON THE AGENDA? AND THEN OKAY. IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, THEN WE'LL, WE CAN PUNT IT TO ANOTHER MEETING. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM? NO, I, I'LL SAY AT A LATER CONVERSATION, I DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THIS MAYOR AND COUNCIL ABOUT LICENSE PLATE READERS ALONG CHEVROLET AVENUE. WELL, ON, ON BOTH ENDS OF CHEVROLET AVENUE. THOSE HELP US WITH CATCHING BAD GUYS AT AN EARLIER PACE. SO, YOU KNOW, UH, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LATER, BUT RIGHT NOW I'M JUST GONNA TAKE WHAT I CAN GET. AND, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA IS A WIN FOR THE OLD FOURTH WARD. SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT TO UPDATE YOU ALL ON IS FAIRMONT HEIGHTS. THEY'RE HAVING A MARCH THIS AND IT STARTS THIS SATURDAY AT 9:00 AM SO THIS IS AN ANNUAL EVENT THAT HAPPENS. THEY WILL BE MARCHING FROM THE OLD FAIRMONT HEIGHTS HIGH SCHOOL TO THE NEW FAIRMONT HEIGHTS HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEY WILL BE MARCHING THROUGH THE OLD FOURTH WARD. UM, SO PLEASE BE AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TRAVELING THAT WAY, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, AT AROUND 9:00 AM TO 10:00 AM YOUR TRAFFIC PATTERN MAY BE ALTERED OR DELAYED. BUT, UH, THAT WILL BE HAPPENING THIS WEEKEND. AND I DO WANT TO GIVE, UM, SOME ACKNOWLEDGEMENT APPRECIATION TO CORPORAL WILLIS FOR HIS OUTSTANDING WORK AND APPREHENDING A SUSPECT WANTED FOR A CITIZEN ROBBERY WHILE ON OVERTIME DUTY AT THE CH METRO STATION, CORPORAL WILLIS IDENTIFIED THE SUSPECT BASED ON A BULLETIN ISSUED BY THE BLADENSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF SERGEANT BOLER, THE SUSPECT, SUSPECT WAS SAFELY DETAINED AND LATER IDENTIFIED BY DETECTIVES AS THE INDIVIDUAL WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH A CRIME. THEIR TEAMWORK AND PROFESSIONALISM ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED AND REFLECT WELL ON THE CHEVROLET POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO DEFINITELY WANT TO GIVE A STAFF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO CORPORAL WILLIS FOR PAYING ATTENTION, BEING AWARE AND BEING ACTIVE. SO, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME RIGHT NOW? VICE MAYOR? UM, UH, THANK YOU TO CORPORAL WILLIS. GREAT JOB. I DID HAVE A QUESTION FROM A RESIDENT ABOUT, UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW AND I EXPLAINED THAT WE REGULARLY PATROL THE METRO STATION AS PART OF NMOU THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM. UM, BUT THEY SAID THEY WERE WORRIED BECAUSE THEY'VE NOTICED A LARGE UPTICK IN CH POLICE PRESENCE AT THE METRO LATELY. AND, UM, THEY JUST WANTED TO ASK IF THERE WAS A REASON FOR THAT OR IF IT'S JUST THEY JUST HAPPENED TO BE SEEING MORE. OKAY. THAT'S IT. NO UPTICK IN CRIME, IT'S JUST OVERTIME THAT'S BEEN WORKED DUE TO THE MOU THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR? I SEE A YES. SO TOMORROW I WILL BE ATTENDING OUR TRAVELING TO TAMPA FOR THE ICMA CONFERENCE, INTERNATIONAL CITY COUNTY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION. I WILL BE THERE UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE CONFERENCE, HOWEVER, I WILL NOT RETURN BACK TO CHEV UNTIL NEXT FRIDAY. WHILE I AM AWAY ACTING CHIEF WILL BE THE, UH, TOWN ADMINISTRATOR WHILE I AM GONE. ANY AND ALL ISSUES OR CONCERNS ARE TO BE, UH, DIRECTED TO, UH, ACTING CHIEF. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AS THE ACTING TOWN ADMINISTRATOR, I HAVE FULL FAITH AND CONFIDENCE AND, UH, THE ACTING TOWN ADMINISTRATOR TO PERFORM THE DUTIES [02:00:01] THAT NEED TO BE DONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WONDERFUL. ANYTHING FURTHER ON THAT TOPIC? CONGRATULATIONS. ACTING CHIEF, ACTING TOWN ADMINISTRATOR. MR. TANZI, DO WE HAVE A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR A HAT THAT REPRESENTS WEARING MANY HATS? A MANY HAT. HAT, I'M SURE WE CAN FIND ONE. NAH, WE CAN FIND ONE. . OUTSTANDING. OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM 13. COUNCIL MEMBER FRY AND COUNCIL MEMBER GARCIA CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENTS. ANY UPDATES? UM, UM, YEAH. UM, SO, UH, SORRY. UH, CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENTS STARTED, UH, PLACING OR PUTTING UP CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE COMPLEX. UM, THEY, WHAT, UH, ONE, WELL, THEY, THEY FIRST, UM, PUT CAMERAS ALIGNED, ALIGNED, UH, FACING THE PARKING LOT IN THE PARKING LOT. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS. UH, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA ASK MR. GALLOWAY THAT QUESTION. UM, ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO JUST PUT CAMERAS WHERE THE PARKING LOTS ARE AT? OR, OR LIKE IN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE ALLEYWAY OR THE, THE WALKWAYS BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER FRY. SO THE COUNTY BILL READS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO COVER THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS OF THE BUILDINGS. UM, BUT I THINK THAT THEY CAN STILL COVER THE PARKING LOT, WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA SINCE THERE'S A LOT OF CRIME WITH LIKE, YOU KNOW, STEALING TIRES AND WHATNOT. BUT THEY SHOULD ALSO BE COVERING, UM, THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS OF THE BUILDING BUILDINGS. SO IF THEY ARE NOT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO BRING TO THEIR ATTENTION. OKAY. AND I'LL ALSO, I GUESS MY, MY, MY NEXT QUESTION WILL BE, UM, MR. GALLOWAY, UM, OR, OR EVEN, UM, EITHER, UH, ACTING CHIEF, UM, AS WELL. UM, HAVE THEY CONTACTED YOU GUYS IN ANY WAY NOR TO LIKE, DISCUSS WHAT WAS, UM, DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS, UM, MEETUP THAT WE HAD WITH THEM REGARDING THE CAMERAS AS IN ACCESS TO THEM? DID THEY EVER GET BACK TO YOU GUYS OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET BACK TO THEM? NO, THEY HAVE BEEN PUT ON NOTICE AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE. UM, AND AS OF THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY INSTALLING THE CAMERAS. UM, SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION OFF JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COULD LEAD TO A LEGAL DISCUSSION OR NOT. OKAY. YES SIR. THANK YOU. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, WE, WE SWITCHED OVER TO HEAT. NOW , UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NEVER A PROBLEM WITH HE, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT, UM, SO FAR, YOU KNOW, UM, ONE THING WE, I HAVE BEEN NOTICING IS THAT, UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF EMPTY UNITS NOW HOW HAPPENING WITH THINGS GETTING LEFT BEHIND. AND I, UM, I DEFINITELY ADDRESS THAT WITH, UM, WITH DEMETRIUS AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR MAINTENANCE, UM, SUPERVISOR. UH, 'CAUSE THERE WERE SOME UNITS THAT WERE LEFT WITH THE, UM, WITH THE PATIO DOOR OPEN AND, UM, THEY CALLED, SO IT TURNS OUT THEY CALLED THOSE APARTMENT SKIPS THAT OUR RESIDENTS JUST ABANDONED, UH, AND LEAVE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE HAD THEM JUST TO JUST, JUST CHECK, CHECK THESE, UH, THESE, UH, UNITS THAT ARE, THAT ARE NOT OCCUPIED AND, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLOSED AND SEALED BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN EASY, UH, ENTRANCE TO THE, UM, TO THE REST OF THE BUILDING PUTTING, UM, THE SAFETY OF OTHER RESIDENTS AT, UM, IMPOSSIBLE DANGER. BUT, UM, WE HAVE A WARD WALK COMING UP NEXT, NEXT, UH, WEDNESDAY. I SENT THE INVITE. UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE COULD, UM, ADDRESS A COUPLE MORE THINGS WITH THEM IN PERSON RATHER THAN JUST EMAIL. AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR NOW. EXCELLENT. SO THE WARD WALK IS ON WEDNESDAY THE 29TH? YES. UH, IT'S UH, SIX 30. EXCELLENT. OKAY. MEETING AT THE VISITOR'S PARKING LOT. SIX 30. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MM-HMM . ANYTHING FURTHER? ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER? FOR COUNCIL MEMBER GARIS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER FRY? I SEEING NONE. UH, ITEM 14 REVIEW OF THE NOVEMBER TOWN MEETING AGENDA, UH, COUNSEL, WE WILL BE MEETING IN A SPECIAL MEETING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO REMEMBER TO ADVERTISE ON OCTOBER 8TH, UH, NOVEMBER 8TH, UH, FOR THE COUNCIL RETREAT. THAT IS A PUBLIC MEETING, SO WE WILL NEED TO ADVERTISE THAT. UM, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH. UH, IT SHOULD ALREADY BE POSTED ONLINE. OKAY. AND WE'LL SEND OUT A NEWS AND ANNOUNCEMENT ACCORDINGLY, BUT YEAH. OKAY. [02:05:01] SEVENTH AND EIGHTH? YES. SO WE WILL MEET THEN. UM, I WILL AT THAT TIME ASK YOU ALL TO, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME, BUT TO ASK YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AND IDENTIFY A DATE THAT WE WILL MEET IN A CLOSED MEETING TO DISCUSS, UH, CLOSED MEETING, A FEW CLOSED MEETING ITEMS, INCLUDING PERSONNEL, HOPEFULLY BEFORE THANKSGIVING. UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE ON THAT NOW. WE CAN DECIDE ON THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH WHEN TO HOLD THAT MEETING. OUR ONLY ORDINARY MEETING IN NOVEMBER IS ON THE 13TH, THE TOWN MEETING. UM, I HAVE ON THE AGENDA POSSIBLY THE AUDIT, OF COURSE, KELLER CONSTRUCTION, UH, THE TRENT STREET CAMERA BUDGET ADJUSTMENT. ARE THERE OTHER ITEMS, UH, THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE TRACKING, UH, INDIVIDUALLY OR THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ON THE RADAR SCREEN? MY S MAYOR RESOLUTION, I'M SORRY. SORRY, MR. GALLOWAY. GO AHEAD. A RESOLUTION FOR PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION MONTH OR BEING SURE. I THINK IT'S BEEN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BANNER CITY REQUIREMENT, SO, OH, ALRIGHT. I WILL WRITE DOWN BANNER CITY QUESTION MARK. VICE MAYOR BREER. UM, A FEW THINGS, UM, ELECTIONS, SUPPORT OF ELECTION SUPERVISORS ARE SUPPOSED TO COME AND AT SOME POINT AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SINCE THERE ARE BUDGET IMPLICATIONS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T FALL OFF OF OUR RADAR. UM, UH, I WOULD LOVE AN UPDATE ON, UH, IF THERE IS AN UPDATE ON THE ISSUE OF, UH, CELLPHONE COVERAGE ISSUES, UH, PARTICULARLY IN WARD THREE 'CAUSE THAT CONTINUES TO BE, UM, AN ISSUE. UM, AND, UH, WOULD ALSO LOVE AN UPDATE ON WSSC TASK ORDER 2 0 1. UM, AND I FORGOT TO ASK FOR AN UPDATE ON THE PARKING SITUATION ON 63RD, BUT WE CAN TALK OFFLINE ABOUT THAT AFTER. UM, I THINK THOSE ARE MY THREE THINGS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE FOR DECEMBER? FOR NOVEMBER OR THE, FOR THE DECEMBER 3RD WORK SESSION. COUNCIL MEMBER HICK. UM, SO I HAD, UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT HAVING PEPCO COME BACK TO GIVE US AN UPDATE. THEY HAD, WE HAD TALKED TO SOMEONE AT CHEVROLET DAY ABOUT COMING BACK TO TALK TO US ABOUT ISSUES WITHIN THE TOWN. RONNIE? YEAH, WE TALKED TO RONNIE. YES. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT, PEPCO AND THEN UP UPDATING. WE HAD TABLED THE MINUTES FROM THE 25TH WORK SESSION. YES. WE NEED TO GET THOSE UPDATED AND AMENDED. SO WE NEED TO GET, I HAVE SOME, A AMEND HAND AMENDMENTS HERE, BUT YES, THOSE, THE, THE NOVE, THE SEPTEMBER 25, UM, WORK SESSION MINUTES WILL BE PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER 13. UH, ADDITIONALLY, UH, MR. DELO, IF YOU'RE ON IO, THE CITIZENRY A, UM, READOUT OF OUR LAST CLOSED MEETING. YES. SO IF YOU, WE WILL HAVE THAT IN NEXT C MEETING. THANK YOU. SO I'LL WRITE THAT ON HERE. UM, I WILL READ THAT ON THE 13TH OF NOVEMBER. ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNSEL? YES. UH OH, SORRY. YEAH, GO AHEAD. NO, I, UH, I THINK I, I JUST, I JUST HAD ONE MORE QUESTION FOR MR. UM, MR. GALLOWAY. MR. GALLOWAY, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, UM, THAT YOU COULD, UH, CONNECT ME WITH, UH, I DUNNO WHO'S THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR OF I GUESS PEPCO OR, OR WHOEVER MANAGES THE, UM, I GUESS THE BILLING OF CHEVROLET, UH, STATION APARTMENTS LIKE WATER AND GAS? UM, UH, I NEED TO, I NEED TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW IS IT EXACTLY THAT RESIDENTS ARE, ARE BEING BILLED FOR THAT? 'CAUSE UM, THERE WAS, THERE'S BEEN A MAJOR SPIKE IN THEIR BILLS LATELY. UM, AND, AND THEN THE WAY THAT, THAT, UH, CHEVROLET STATION SAYS THAT THEY, HOW THEY BILL, UH, INDIVIDUAL UNITS, IT JUST DOESN'T, DOESN'T ADD UP. RIGHT. SO I JUST WANNA SEE IF WE COULD SOMEHOW, UH, SPEAK TO SOMEONE THAT, THAT COULD GIVE US THOSE ANSWERS. YES, SIR. I CAN PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH THE GOVERNOR AND REPRESENTATIVES. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. ANY, UH, MR. WADE? YES. YEAH, ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE ABOUT TREMONT HAVE THE, UH, SNOW REMOVAL [02:10:01] AND YES. CHANGING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DE DURING DEPARTMENTAL, UH, UPDATES, UH, AT THE NOVEMBER 20 AT 13 TOWN MEETING, UH, DURING THE PUBLIC WORKS PORTION, THEY ARE GOING, WE DID HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TODAY. THEY'RE GOING TO UPDATE US ON THE PLOW RULES, UH, SNOW EMERGENCY PARKING RULES, AND, UM, RECOMMEND ANY, UM, A AMENDMENTS TO OUR MUL MANY DECADES OLD PLAN. RIGHT. AND OR EXPLAIN THE RATIONALE FOR THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE, UH, CURRENT POLICY. CAN I, IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THAT EXCEPTION, WOULD THAT BE A VOTE? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST ALL AGREE UPON? I THINK WE COULD ALL AGREE UPON IT. WE COULD VOTE ON IT, BUT WE WILL. I'M, I WILL. YES, WE COULD. I THINK WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM MR. CARDENAS ABOUT WHY WE DO IT THE WAY WE DO IT, AND WHETHER THERE'S ANY OTHER EXCEPTIONS, WHETHER WE NEED FEWER OR MORE EXCEPTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M READY TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE IT JUST BECAUSE OF NOW HAVING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY GO THROUGH ON A SNOW BASIS AND HOW THERE'S AN INCLINE THERE AND TURNING A CORNER AND WE PLOW TO THE RIGHT. SO THAT IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT FACTOR INTO THAT DECISION. UM, SO YEAH, I WILL HAVE CARDENAS HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING JUST SO THAT HE CAN SPEAK ON THAT. UM, BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE GET OUR NEXT SNOW SO WE CAN FULLY ASSESS IT AND YOU ALL CAN COME AND RIDE WITH US IF YOU WANT TO. UM, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO COME OUT WITH US AND HANG OUT WITH US ON A SNOW DAY, UM, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WORK THAT'S PUT INTO THAT. 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS DONE 40 YEARS AGO OR WHY THAT DECISION WAS MADE, BUT IT'S BEEN EFFECTIVE SINCE THEN FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS PERSPECTIVE. I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE FOR A WHILE, A COUPLE YEARS NOW THAT THEY, THEY'VE BEEN HAVING THAT ISSUE. SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO BELITTLE THEIR, NOT SAYING YOU ARE, BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. UM, ESPECIALLY, UH, BEFORE MAJOR STORM HITS, UH, YEAH. WE HAVE THIS FULLY RESOLVED WHETHER WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THIS OR NOT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS A IS DONE. YEAH. SO I MEAN, IF IT WERE TO SNOW TOMORROW, THE POLICY IS THE SAME THAT IT AL THAT IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGE. UM, AND PUBLIC WORKS WILL COME IN NOVEMBER AND EXPLAIN WHY CERTAIN BLOCKS PARK ON THE EVEN SIDE AND NOT THE ODD SIDE. RIGHT. BUT IT, IN THERE READING IT, IT IS CONFUSING ON HOW IT IS CONFUSING. VERY CONFUSING. AND IT'S DOUBLY AND TRIPLY CONFUSING ON TREMONT BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A LONG STRAIGHT STREET. 3,200 AND ONLY ONE BLOCK IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER BLOCKS. RIGHT, RIGHT. I MEAN, I'M SURE THERE IS AN ANSWER AND WE'LL HEAR IT, BUT IT IS LIKE IT IS THE MOST CONFOUNDING OF THE EXCEPTIONS. AND THAT'S THE NOVEMBER 13TH, UH, TOWN MEETING? YES. OKAY. YES. ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS? AGAIN, WE ARE MEETING ON THE 13TH. WE DON'T HAVE A PROPER WORK SESSION IN NOVEMBER. WE MAY HAVE A CLOSED MEETING. UM, AND THEN, UH, OUR WORK SESSION FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER IS ON THE 3RD OF DECEMBER. UH, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE REGULAR TOWN MEETING IN DECEMBER, AND THAT WILL BE IT FOR 2025. YOUR CARRYING AND SHARING WILL BE ON DECEMBER 4TH, ON THAT FIRST FRIDAY OF DECEMBER, AND THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL CARRYING AND SHARING IS ON DECEMBER 4TH. SO MARK YOUR CALENDARS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE CREATE A NICE, NICE FIRE IN THE MIDDLE OF LEGION PARK. MM-HMM . OKAY. THAT, IF THAT CONCLUDES ITEM 14, WE'RE ON TO ITEM 15. ADJOURNMENT. IS THERE A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL? MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE COUNCIL MEMBER LALO HECK, THE SECOND ON THAT ONE. ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? YEAH. THE MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.