* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. POST SHOULD HAVE PERCEIVED [00:00:01] IT. OKAY. THANKS. NOW I, NOW I JUST HEARD THE AUDIO, BUT, OKAY. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. SOMEBODY HIT? YES. THANK YOU, . THANK YOU FOR CATCHING. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, WE'LL START AGAIN. UH, THIS IS [I. Call to Order ] A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CH PLANNING BOARD AND THE CHEVROLET GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, UH, FOCUSING ON THE CHEVROLET HILL PLAN REVIEW. UM, I'M GONNA START BY DOING A ROLL CALL FOR THE PLANNING BOARD, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. UM, IS, SO I'M CARLOS SILBIGER. I'M HERE. UH, IS JOYCE HERE? BRIAN? HI, GOOD EVENING. I'M BRIAN REDWOOD'S. PRESENT, JEREMY? UH, BARBARA. STEVEN. PRESENT LANE. PRESENT. I'M HERE. WONDERFUL. AND OUR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE, COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI, ARE YOU HERE? I AM. WONDERFUL. GREAT. UM, SHEILA, DO YOU, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE ALSO TO DO ROLL CALL? OKAY. LET ME JUST GO BY. LET FIRST WHO I FIND ON THE, ON THE LIST THOUGH, I FIND MYSELF, LAYLA BRI, DAN SMITH, JOYCE JONES, JULIA MOSLEY, KAREN MO MANON, SLADEN. UM, IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE FROM GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, PLEASE SPEAK UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND SO ONE OF US CAN SEE YOU. OKAY. THAT'S US. WONDERFUL. GREAT. SO EXCITING TO HAVE SUCH A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME, UM, THIS EVENING TO JOIN US. UM, SO SHEILA AND I ARE GONNA SORT OF TAKE TURNS BACK AND FORTH, UH, WITH THE FACILITATION. UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA START, [II. Public Comment] UM, THIS EVENING WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS SORT OF TWOFOLD. ONE IS TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. UH, ANYTHING YOU WANNA MAKE SURE BOTH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE IS CONSIDERING IS THINKING ABOUT. UH, AND ALSO FOR US TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND GET ANSWERS, UH, TO THINGS THAT ARE ON OUR MIND AS WE'RE PREPARING TO, UH, SUBMIT OUR COMMENTS ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLANS. UM, SO WE'LL START WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO THIS IS A CHANCE FOR ANYONE WHO HAS A COMMENT THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE A QUESTION THEY'D LIKE TO RAISE, MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS IT THIS EVENING. WE'RE GONNA ASK PEOPLE TO KEEP THEIR COMMENTS AS QUICK AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET TO AS MANY AS WE CAN. BUT OF COURSE, WE DO WANNA HEAR FROM YOU FOR SURE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SHARE NOW, OR IF A COMMENT COMES TO YOU AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS PART OF THE AGENDA, THERE HOPEFULLY IS A Q AND A BUTTON ON YOUR ZOOM SCREEN. OR IF NOT, THERE CERTAINLY IS A CHAT BUTTON AND YOU CAN SHARE THEM THERE AND WE WILL MAKE SURE TO, UH, NOTE THEM, UH, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO VOCALIZE THEM NOW. OKAY. SO, UH, LET'S START WITH, IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT, CAN YOU, UH, RAISE YOUR HAND OR, OR PUT YOUR NAME INTO THE CHAT AND WE WILL MAKE OUR WAY THROUGH THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANNA SPEAK. ALL RIGHT, PAUL, I SEE YOU FIRST GO ON AHEAD. HEY, EVERYONE. UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? SO, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO MY ONLY QUESTION HAD BEEN WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE ANY PLANS FOR A BUS CONNECTION FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST CREATING A TRANSIT CONNECTION OVER TO THE METRO, LIKE REROUTING THE P 43 OR WHETHER ANY OF THAT WAS UNDER DISCUSSION AT THIS STAGE. GREAT. SO WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A NOTE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COME BACK TO QUESTIONS AROUND, UH, CONNECTIVITY TO PUBLIC TRANSIT, AND, UH, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT GETS INCLUDED. THANK YOU, PAUL, FOR SHARING THAT. OTHERS, THIS IS BRIAN. I DON'T [00:05:01] SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED CURRENTLY. OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH, I WAS JUST DOING A QUICK SCAN AS WELL, AND I DON'T EITHER. SO IF, AS I SAID, IF ANYONE ELSE THINKS OF THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR QUESTIONS AS WE'RE GOING ABOUT, NO WORRIES. THROW 'EM IN THE CHAT OR THROW 'EM IN, UH, Q AND A IF, IF THAT IS ON THERE. AND WE WILL MAKE SURE TO GRAB 'EM, UH, AS WE GO. ALRIGHT. SO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO [III. Cheverly Hill Development Team] ASK FIRST FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT. FIRST, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, SHARE A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS, UM, AND WHAT'S COMING UP AND ANY TIMELINE INFORMATION THEY HAVE, ANY AVAILABLE DOCUMENTS THAT, UM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE. UM, AND THEN, UH, ANY UPDATES THEY WANNA GIVE US ON ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, UH, EITHER BY, UH, THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE OR BY THE PLANNING BOARD TO THIS POINT. UM, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO OUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. UH, CHUCK, AM I TURNING OVER TO YOU? SURE. AND, AND THANK YOU, UH, SHEILA AND CARLO FOR, FOR, UH, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, AND, UH, I WILL LET, UH, UM, I'LL INTRODUCE MYSELF. I'M CHUCK ARI CHEVROLET, RIGHT IS IN 23 YEARS. UH, MY WIFE AND I HAVE TWO COLLEGE AGED CHILDREN. AND, UH, UH, FIRST WARD, RESIDENT MEMBER OF HOME TEAM FIVE. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, MY BROTHER, JOHN. HEY, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. JOHN PARI. UH, ALSO A MEMBER OF HOME TEAM FIVE, UH, THE JOINT VENTURE PARTNER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT. AND, UH, WARD ONE RESIDENT AS WELL. AND IF I COULD ADD BEFORE, UH, WE START TEDDY, THAT, UH, UH, OUR PARTNERS STEVE PROCTOR OF UPPER MARLBORO, JUSTIN ROSS OF COLLEGE PARK, AND BRAD FROM FROM UNIVERSITY PARK, UM, UH, HAD HOPED TO JOIN US, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WEATHER AND FA FAMILY OBLIGATIONS, UM, ARE PREVENTING THEM. ALTHOUGH THEY MAY WELL JOIN LATER. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, OUR PARTNER, TEDDY. PERFECT. THANK YOU, CHUCK. UH, TEDDY SWIFT WITH URBAN ATLANTIC, UH, DIRECTOR HERE AT URBAN. UM, WE ARE, AS CHUCK AND JOHN MENTIONED, PARTNERS WITH HOME TEAM FIVE AND COLLECTIVELY, UM, YOU KNOW, CH PARTNERS. THE VENTURE OF US TOGETHER ARE PUBLIC, THE PRIVATE PARTNERS WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. AND I THINK IT JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, UM, UH, MATERIAL COVERED GENERALLY TONIGHT. I WANT TO GET THROUGH A LOT. UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO START JUST BIG PICTURE HOW, YOU KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF YOU WERE HERE FROM THE START, BUT JUST HOW, HOW WE GOT INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE. JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT MOVING PIECES HERE. UM, SO I'LL BE QUICK HERE, BUT THE RDA, THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY PUT OUT AN RFP IN 2023, I BELIEVE IT WAS, OR WAS IT 2021? OH MAN, TIME IS GOING TIME . IT IS TOUGH TO . OH MAN, I THINK IT WAS 2021. UM, BUT ANY, IN ANY RESPECT, UH, THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A PRIVATE PARTNER TO HELP, UH, REDEVELOP THE HOSPITAL SITE. UM, WE HAD HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES. WE, AT URBAN ATLANTIC HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH DIFFERENT CAPACITIES WITH THE FOLKS HERE AT HOME, TEAM FIVE, UM, AND WE GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED TO RESPOND TO THE RFP, UM, REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON A PLAN THAT WAS ROOTED ON THE WANTS AND NEEDS OF THE, THE SHEPHERD LEE COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHERE, UH, JOHN AND CHUCK HAVE DONE SUCH A GOOD TIME JOB THROUGHOUT. UM, BUT LIST, LOOKING AT THE PLANNING BOARD DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SHARED BACK THEN, THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SHARED BACK IN, BACK THEN, AND REALLY MAKING SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SATISFYING THE, THE WANTS OF THE COMMUNITY. SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE STILL JUST THE PRIVATE PARTNER OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. THE RE THE RDA, THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OWNS THE LAND. UM, THEY MAINTAIN THE LAND. UH, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL A POINT IN TIME WHERE US AS THE PRIVATE PARTNER ARE READY TO START INFRASTRUCTURE WORK ON SITE. SO EVEN THIS DEMOLITION THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING ON SITE, THE RDA CONTINUES TO, TO OWN THE LAND DURING THAT WORK. BUT WHEN WE START INFRASTRUCTURE ON SITE, WE WILL START TAKING DOWN PIECES OF LAND, SORT OF SEQUENTIALLY AND PHASE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. UM, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALREADY A LOANED. THERE'LL BE A POINT WHERE IT'S PARTIALLY PRIVATE OWNED, PARTIALLY ALREADY A OWNED. AND THEN AT THE VERY END OF THE PROJECT, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT VERTICAL COMPONENTS. SO ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS, LIKE TRADITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS, WHAT YOU THINK OF, OF ONE-OFF DEVELOPMENTS WILL BE OWNED BY PRIVATE PARTIES OR PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS. AND THEN ALL OF THE PUBLIC AREAS, UM, WILL EITHER BE DEDICATED BACK TO THE COUNTY, UM, TO THE TOWN OF CH OR TO A, UM, COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. UH, SO THAT'S JUST BIG PICTURE AND STRUCTURE. UM, JUST SO, BECAUSE I, A LOT OF QUESTIONS [00:10:01] JUST SORT OF NUANCE THERE. UH, WANTED TO, TO SET THE STAGE, UH, AS, UH, YOU ALL KNOW THE SITE. UM, IT'S BORDERED BY THE TOWN OF CH RIGHT NOW IN LOCKWOOD, INWOOD, JASON, UM, UP, UH, TOWARDS THE, THE NORTH HALF OF THE SITE. AND THEN BW PARKWAY ON THE WEST, UM, 45 ACRES. THE HOSPITAL STRUCTURE ITSELF, WHICH IS LARGELY GONE, IF NO ONE, IF ANYONE HASN'T DRIVEN THROUGH IT RECENTLY, JUST DRIVE THROUGH IT AND SEE, SEE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. UH, WE, WE DEMOED ABOUT A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING STRUCTURE, UM, AND ARE PRESERVING TWO ELEMENTS. UH, AND I'LL JUST DRAW SOME ARROWS AS I GO, AS I'M WANT TO DO. UM, THE FIRST IS THE BED TOWER. SO THIS IS A 10, 10 STORY, UM, EXISTING BED TOWER USED FOR LONG-TERM STAY PATIENTS AT THE HOSPITAL, UH, THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENOVATE INTO APARTMENT BUILDING, UM, WITH A, A NEW BUILD COMPONENT ON ATTACHED TO IT, BUT BE RENOVATED, BUT IT'S A, IT'S OFFERS COMMANDING VIEWS. IT'S A, IT'S A NICE STRUCTURE, GOOD BONES. UM, SO WE'RE KEEPING THE BED TOWER. WE'RE ALSO KEEPING THE PARKING GARAGE HERE. PARKING IS VERY IMPORTANT IN, UH, SUBURBAN LOCATIONS LIKE THIS. WE WANT TO PROVIDE AS MUCH BIKE METRO, UH, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO AND THROUGH THE SITE AS WE ABSOLUTELY CAN, BECAUSE WE THINK THAT IS THE WAY OF THE FUTURE. AND WE THINK IT'S U THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE, ESPECIALLY WITH, UM, WITH THE AMOUNT OF FAMILIES THAT ARE IN THE TOWN OF CH. BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THIS IS A SUBURBAN LOCATION. PEOPLE NEED TO GET TO WORK. NOT EVERYONE'S GONNA TAKE THE METRO BUS THEN METRO LINE. UM, AND PARKING IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE ON THESE SITES. UM, SO HAVING EXISTING PARKING GARAGE THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE IS ACTUALLY A, IS A GOOD, GREAT OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS OF JUST GETTING OFF THE GROUND FLOOR AND NOT HAVING TO PAVE UPFRONT FOR A VERY LARGE PARKING GARAGE THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALLY SEE THAT MUCH VALUE AND TAKES A LOT OF SPACE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S ONE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE KEEPING. THE REST OF THE STRUCTURES THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED TO DATE. UM, THE, WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE, UH, WHICH IS CROPPED, IS THE EXISTING COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT WILL BE RENOVATED AND RETROFITTED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT MEDICAL OFFICE USERS. WE'VE ALSO TOSSED AROUND A COUPLE DIFFERENT USES. UM, BUT THEY'LL BE, THAT'LL BE REDEVELOPED WHEN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT LEAVES HERE SOON. UH, BIG PICTURE, THIS IS NOW PLAN VIEW. WE WERE JUST LOOKING SORT OF LIKE THIS ANGLE FROM RIGHT TO LEFT HERE. UM, AT THE EXISTING SITE. THIS IS 2D PLAN VIEW ALL THE WAY UP OF THE ENTIRE BUILD OUT OF, OF THE PROJECT. UM, IT'S GOING TO BE ROUGHLY 1300 TOTAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS, OF WHICH 165 OF THOSE THEREABOUTS ARE FOR SALE TOWN HOMES. SO THOSE ARE 20 BY 42 TOWN HOMES, TWO CAR GARAGES, OWN FEE FEE, SIMPLE. SO OWN FEE SIMPLE BY, UM, BY, UH, BY SINGLE HOMEOWNERS. UH, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SENIOR TARGETED CONDOS. SO, UM, PARKED ELEVATORS SERVED ONE STORY CONDO UNITS AND A THREE OR FOUR STORY BUILDING, UH, ABOUT 1200 SQUARE FEET SORT OF MOVED DOWN BY OR, UH, SET UP, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ATTRACT, UM, THOSE FOLKS WHO, WHO, UM, ARE GETTING LATER IN LIFE AND DON'T WANT TO MAINTAIN A HOME ANYMORE. AND THEN ABOUT 950 MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, FIVE TO SEVEN STORIES. UM, THIS'LL ALL HAPPEN IN PHASES. IT'S NOT GONNA BE ALL BUT ONCE. UM, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO, TO PIECE THIS THING OUT ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, UH, 40,000 OR SO SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. IT'S REALLY GONNA DEPEND HOW THE, THE FIT OF THE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS, UM, LOOKS LIKE, AND THEN DEMAND ON THE RETAIL SIDE. BUT WE, WE EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO GET, UH, 30 TO 40,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN, UM, AS I MENTIONED THIS EXISTING BUILDING UP HERE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SERVING MEDICAL OFFICE USERS THAT WE'RE ATTRACTING RIGHT NOW. UM, WE'VE TOSSED AROUND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO BACKFILL THAT SPACE. WHAT WE KNOW WE WANT IS SOMETHING THAT SERVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, THINK DAYCARE, THINK, UM, PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, THOUGH WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO STILL FIGURE THAT OUT AND WORK THROUGH IT. UM, THE ENTIRE SITE IS SORT OF CENTRALIZED, IS CENTRAL. UH, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING OF IT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON TWO ELEMENTS. THE FIRST IS HAVING A CENTER VILLAGE GREEN THAT IS SORT OF THE BEATING HEART OF THE, THE SITE. UM, IT'S WHERE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF DENSITY IS. IT IS WHERE THE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL USES [00:15:01] WANT TO BE. IT'S, IT'LL BE ACTIVATED. UM, I'LL GET TO A, UH, RENDERING OF IT SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. UM, BUT IT REALLY WANTS TO BE SORT OF THE, THE MAGNET THAT DRAWS IN BOTH PEDESTRIANS, BIKES, OUTTA TOWN, VISITORS, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE TO THE SITE. AND THAT IS HERE WHAT I'VE JUST BOXED. UH, AND THEN REALLY LEVERAGING EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IS EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. IT'S HARD TO BUILD. IT TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE. IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY EFFICIENT TO, TO A SLOPE THAT RIGHT NOW IS MAINTAINED THROUGH HEAVILY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THROUGH WOODED AREAS. AND, UM, VEGETATED IN GENERAL AND THEN TRY TO REGRADE IT. UM, YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY YOU WANNA WORK WITHIN THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY OR, OR WHAT'S EXISTING AND WORKING CURRENTLY. UM, SO WE REALLY ARE MAINTAINING THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. AND THAT IS PRIMARILY AND WENT OFF ROAD FOR A BIT THERE. BUT THAT'S PRIMARILY THIS ROAD THAT SNAKES THROUGH THE SITE. UM, THE NEW ROAD THAT WE WILL BE BUILDING AGAIN, THE MAIN NEW ROAD IS THIS LOOP RIGHT HERE. UM, AND THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL 76 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY SECTION OFF STREET PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE FACILITIES, SEPARATED BIKE FACILITIES, UM, 10 FOOT SIDEWALK. UH, REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HOPE IS FOR FOLKS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FROM ELSEWHERE ON THE SITE TO GET TO THE VILLAGE GREEN, EASILY, SMOOTHLY, SAFELY, UM, AND REALLY HAVE THAT AS AN ATTRACTION, UM, OF, OF THE SITE ITSELF. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING, AND I'D IMAGINE THIS IS SOMETHING THE PLANNING BOARD MAY WEIGH IN ON, BUT WE KNOW AT LEAST THE TOWN OF CH HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT IT, THE CONNECTIONS TO INWOOD AND LOCKWOOD, WHICH FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, LIKE WE'VE ALWAYS SAID, WE ARE ADVOCATES FOR, WE THINK IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE HEALTH OF THE RETAIL AND ALSO TO MAKE THIS SITE FEEL LIKE PART OF THE CH COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK WE ALL WANT IT TO FROM A TIMELINE PERSPECTIVE. UH, WE ARE AT THE PRECIPICE OF GETTING THE PRELIMINARY PLAN ACCEPTED. SO I KNOW I SAID 20, 25 HERE. I THOUGHT WHEN I PUT THE SLIDE TOGETHER, WE WOULD GET IT DONE. IT IS LIKELY TO BE, HONESTLY ANY TIME STARTING, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW TO THE END OF THE WEEK, TO THE NEXT WEEK. SO WE ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO GETTING OUR PRELIM PRELIMINARY PLAN ACCEPTED THROUGH PARK AND PLANNING. UM, IT'S BEEN, UH, A BIG EFFORT WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF SORT OF SMALL ISSUES TO GET TO THIS POINT. UM, ONCE IT IS ACCEPTED, THEY WILL BE SENDING AN OUT FOR A, UM, A REVIEW, A REFERRAL TO THE TOWN OF CHEV, TO THE TOWN OF CHEV, PLANNING BOARDED TO INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS ALL IN THE AREA. SO THAT IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS AHEAD OF WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA SEND 'EM OUT, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS TO GIVE A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW, PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE COMMENTS. WE WANNA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THOSE COMMENTS AND RESPOND, UM, AND START THAT DIALOGUE BEFORE SORT OF THE CLOCK STARTS. 'CAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ONCE PARK AND PLANNING PUTS THE CLOCK ON YOU, YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO THEN RESPOND IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF MEETINGS LIKE THIS, TO REALLY MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND WHAT THE PROJECT IS. TAKING A STEP BACK, WHAT IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAN? IT BASICALLY JUST SETS YOUR OVERALL DENSITY LOCK FORMATION, LOCK CONFIGURATION OF THE ENTIRE SITE. IT DOES NOT LOCK YOU IN TO A SPECIFIC PROGRAM, THOUGH. IT DOES GIVE YOU SORT OF AN OVERALL PROGRAM THAT THEN YOU, YOU DRAW AGAINST, I GUESS I MIGHT SAY, AS YOU WORK THROUGH THE SITE. SO SAY WE ARE GONNA SAY WE'RE GONNA BUILD 1500, UH, RE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE, 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. UM, AND THE PUBLIC FACILITIES SURROUNDING THIS SITE THEN CAN SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SAYING CAN SUPPORT THAT MUCH OR WE'LL BE PROVIDING IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT THAT MUCH DEVELOPMENT AS WE GO THROUGH EACH OF THE DIFFERENT VERTICAL COMPONENTS, WHICH ARE SHOWN, YOU KNOW, HERE, THIS IS ONE, THIS IS ONE THIS TOWN HOMES COLLECTIVELY ARE ONE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM. WE WILL BE GOING IN FOR DETAILED SITE PLAN AND SAY, THIS IS OUR DENSITY FOR THIS, THIS IS OUR PROGRAM FOR THIS SPECIFIC COMPONENT. THIS IS HOW IT STACKS UP AGAINST WHAT WE HAVE BUILT TO DATE, WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN APPROVED FOR. AND THEY'LL BASICALLY JUST USE THE PRELIMINARY, WHAT WAS IT APPROVED AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN TO TRACK AGAINST THAT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. SO WHAT ISN'T IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN THEN? IS ANY SORT OF DETAILED ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS, ANY SORT OF DETAILED SITE PLANS? UM, WELL, I'LL SHOW YOU IN JUST A SECOND, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T, THE PRELIMINARY PLAN ITSELF DOESN'T EVEN SHOW THE, THE [00:20:01] INFRAS OR THE, THE BUILDINGS ON THE SPECIFIC LOTS. IT JUST SHOWS THE LOTS. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO PROVIDE INPUT ON SPECIFIC PROGRAMMATIC I, UH, ITEMS FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AND FOR THE TOWN OF CHEV IN GENERAL. AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG. THE PRELIMINARY PLAN REALLY JUST SORT OF SETS THE BASE CONDITIONS THAT THE SITE IS OPERATING UNDER AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SETS THE ENTITLEMENT AND ZONING AND ALL, ALL OF THAT. UM, BUT AS WE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS OUR PHASE ONE BED TOWER RENOVATION. WHEN WE GET TO PHASE ONE AND WE, AND WE ARE ADVANCING DESIGN TO THE POINT WHERE WE SUBMIT FOR DETAILED SITE PLAN, WE'LL BE HAVING THIS EXACT SAME CONVERSATION WHEN WE'RE ABOUT TO GET ACCEPTED FOR DETAILED SITE PLAN BECAUSE A REFERRAL WOULD BE MADE OUT TO YOU. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITIES, AGAIN, WHEN WE GET INTO MORE DETAILED ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS. UM, WHICH IS WHY THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE UNDERWHELMING BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. UH, I TALKED FOR A LONG TIME. I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A QUICK INTRO TO THE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED, UM, TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. WE'VE MADE DRAFT DOCUMENTS OF THESE PREVIOUSLY AVAILABLE FOR YOU ALL. UM, NOW WE HAVE FINAL VERSIONS. WE'LL DO THE EXACT SAME THING AFTER THIS MEETING. I'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DROPBOX LINK OR A BOX LINK OR SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR YOU ALL THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THEM, REVIEW THEM, UM, AND START TO, YOU KNOW, START TO TAKE A LOOK PRIOR TO THE REFERRAL BEING MADE OUT. UH, THE FIRST HERE IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAN OF SUBDIVISION. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS JUST SAYING. WHAT IT DOES IS SET YOUR OVERALL DENSITY AND YOUR ZONING ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE. IT DOES NOT, IT JUST SHOWS THE EXISTING BASELINE WORK HERE. IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY PROPOSED LINE WORK OTHER THAN THE PARCELS THEMSELVES. UM, SO YOU'LL NOTE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PARCEL ONE, PARCEL TWO, PARCEL 12, PARCEL 13. UH, I FORGET THE AMOUNT OF TOTAL PARCELS WE HAVE ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE. IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO 20 OR SO. UM, NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE GONNA BE DEVELOPMENT LOTS. SOME OF THEY'RE GONNA BE COMMON AREAS. IT'S REALLY OUR BEST ESTIMATION ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT WILL BE ON THE SITE AS OF NOW. BUT THERE'S FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN TO SORT OF PUSH AND PULL AND, AND MOVE THINGS. UM, IT ALSO SHOWS THE, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAYS ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE. SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE ARE, THESE ARE THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAYS RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY OPERATE AS PUBLIC ROADS, BUT THEY'RE NOT PUBLIC ROADS. THEY'RE OWNED BY THE, THE COUNTY OR THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN A DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF QUASI PUBLIC, QUASI-PRIVATE, PRIVATE. BUT IT'S MAINTAINED BY, UM, UH, DPW, UM, CURRENTLY THE COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. UM, AND AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING UNTIL WE GET THROUGH ANNEXATION, POTENTIAL ANNEXATION WITH THE TOWN OF CH, UM, THE INTENT IS FOR THEM TO BE DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY. UM, YOU'LL SEE EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL TOWN HOME LOTS PLATTED. BUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SORT OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN ITSELF. LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE ARE SOME, UH, NON DEVELOPABLE PARCELS OR NON-DEVELOPMENT PARCELS OWNED BY WHAT'S REFERENCED, A COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. MAYBE THAT BECOMES THE TOWN OF CHEVERLY. AGAIN, QUESTIONS TO BE WORKED OUT DOWN THE ROAD. WE ALSO HAVE THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CONCEPT PLAN. UM, THIS IS AN OVERALL LOOK AT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE. IT DOES REQUIRE A FAIR BIT OF DETAIL FOR THIS STAGE OF DESIGN, AND IT'S REALLY A LAUNCHPAD. AS WE GET FURTHER INTO DETAILED ENGINEERING, WE KNOW WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE THE SAME WAY AS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS THE, THE PERMITTING AGENCY IS LOOKING AT IT. AND REALLY WHAT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON LARGELY IS COMPARE TO FROM EXISTING CONDITIONS TO PROPOSED CONDITIONS, MAKING SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE AREAS OF DRAINAGE LARGELY LINE UP BETWEEN EXISTING AND PROPOSED. WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS MAP SAYING, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE CATCHMENT AREAS THAT ALL, ALL OF THE WATER FLOWS IN EACH OF THESE CATCHMENT AREAS TO, UH, SPECIFIC OUTFALL POINTS. WE WANNA KEEP THOSE OUTFALL POINTS JUST ABOUT THE SAME, BUT WE WANT TO RESTRICT THE FLOW NOW AND TREAT IT FOR STORM WATER QUALITY. SO RIGHT NOW, NOTHING'S BEING TREATED WHATSOEVER ON SITE. IT'S GOING RAINFALLS OR YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY WATER GETS DISCHARGED ONTO THE SITE, HITS THE PAVEMENT, RUSHES AS FAST AS IT CAN, PICKING UP DEBRIS AND WHATNOT ALONG THE WAY INTO A STORM DRAIN. THERE ARE STORM DRAIN SYSTEMS ON SITE. THERE'S NO POINT THAT IT'S CONTROLLED, SO NO, YOU, NO, UH, NO WEIRS, NO CONTROL VALVES, NO NOTHING. IT [00:25:01] IS NOT CONTROLLED AT ANY POINT. AND IT GETS DISCHARGED DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE, EITHER TO THE SOUTH HERE OR TO THE NORTH. UM, AND THROUGH AN OUTFALL. SO THE OUTFALL LOCATIONS WILL BE THE SAME, BUT UNDER PROPOSED CONDITIONS, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IT GETS INTO THE STORM DRAIN NETWORK ON SITE IT RUNS, OR EVEN POTENTIALLY BEFORE IT GETS INTO A STORM DRAIN NETWORK ON SITE, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHERE EXACTLY WE'RE TALKING, IT'LL RUN TO A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY. SO A BMP, A LITTLE RAIN GARDEN, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT. BUT SOMETHING THAT, UM, HELPS, UH, REMOVE POLLUTANTS FROM THE WATER FLOWS THROUGH THAT. AND THEN FLOWS THROUGH TO STORMWATER CON, UH, DETENTION BASIN. AND HERE WE'RE PROPOSING UNDERGROUND DETENTION BASIN, WHERE IT GETS CONTROLLED, UM, UP TO THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD AND THEN DISCHARGED AT A SAFE ALLOWABLE DISCHARGE RATE GOING BACK TO PRE-ME CONDITIONS OR TO MEADOW CONDITIONS PRE-DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU HAVE IS A SEA OF IMPERVIOUS AREA RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO TREAT IT AND RELEASE THE WATER, UH, AS IF IT WAS A COMPLETE GREENFIELD AND COMPLETELY UNDEVELOPED. UH, THAT WILL GREATLY HELP ANY DOWNSTREAM DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT ARE STEMMING FROM THE FLOW ON THIS SITE. I CAN'T SPEAK TO A BROADER ANALYSIS 'CAUSE I JUST HAVEN'T DONE THAT AND WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT AT LEAST STEMMING FROM ISSUES, UH, ORIGINATING ON THIS SITE, IT, THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE WILL GREATLY HELP THAT REALLY QUICKLY. HYDRAULIC PLANNING ANALYSIS, THIS SHOWS OUR PROPOSED, UH, WATER AND SEWER LAYOUT. IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO DIG INTO IT. UM, YOU'LL NOTE THAT WE ARE, UH, REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES FOR THE SITE. UM, ONE IS RELATED TO THE, UH, PUE 10 FOOT REQUIRED PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT, UM, PUE. UH, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE ARE VERY CLOSE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY OR VERY CLOSE TO STEEP WOODED AREAS THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO PROVIDE A PUE BECAUSE THEY'RE ADDING NO VALUE. THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT SITES ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD AND WOULD REQUIRE CLEARING AND GRADING WITHIN AREAS THAT ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE JUSTIFICATION. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HELD UP IN GETTING APPROVED. 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN PUSHING HARD FOR THAT. UM, AND, UH, RUN INTO ISSUES AT PARK AND PLANNING. UM, THE OTHER VARIANCE IS THIS, UH, IS THE 300 FOOT MINIMUM LOT DEPTH SETBACK. SO, UM, THERE'S A CODE REQUIREMENT WHERE IF YOU ARE WITHIN, UH, ON A LOT ADJACENT TO A HIGHWAY AS WE ARE WITH THE BW PARKWAY, UH, YOU NEED A LOT DEPTH OF GREATER THAN 300 FEET. REALLY. THIS IS TO PROTECT FOLKS FROM, UM, PURCHASING HOMES, UH, RENTING APARTMENTS THAT THEY DON'T RECOGNIZE. THEY'RE REALLY CLOSE TO A HIGHWAY. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH NOISE ISSUES. WE'VE HAD A NOISE MITIGATION STUDY DONE THAT'LL BE PART OF THE REFERRAL PACKAGE FROM THE PRELIMINARY PLAN OF SUBDIVISION. AND WE THINK WE ARE, UH, VERY WELL MITIGATED HERE BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY AND THE EXISTING, UM, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENT WITH, UH, HEAVILY WOODED AREAS, UM, FROM THE SITE AND ALSO THE WIDTH OF BW PARKWAY. UH, WE ARE GREATER THAN 300 FEET EVEN JUST TO THE PROPERTY LINE. 'CAUSE THE BW PARKWAY RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH IS 650 FEET. SO THAT'S A JUSTIFICATION OF OUR OTHER VARIANCE. AGAIN, MORE DETAIL. HAPPY TO PROVIDE OUR VARI VARIATION LETTER, BUT GENERALLY MORE DETAIL WILL COME IN THE REFERRAL. AND I JUST COVERED A LOT. UM, BUT WANNA, YOU KNOW, A OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, JOHN. CHUCK, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN. UM, BUT YEAH, HAPPY TO TAKE THIS CONVERSATION REALLY WHEREVER, WHEREVER YOU GUYS WANT. GREAT, THANKS FOR THAT. SUPER HELPFUL. LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION. SO, UM, THE WAY THAT WE ENVISION THIS IS SORT OF SPLITTING UP THE TIME BETWEEN THE TWO COMMITTEES TO SORT OF, UM, ASK SOME FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS. BUT I DO WANNA JUST, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO MAYBE CAME IN LATE KNOW THERE ARE STILL OPPORTUNITIES TO GET YOUR QUESTIONS ASKED TO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF, UH, PUT IN A QUESTION, UH, FOR US TO, UM, TO, TO ASK AND, AND TO FOLLOW UP ON. PLEASE DO GO AHEAD AND THROW THAT IN THE Q AND A, UH, SLOT ON ZOOM AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE MONITORING THAT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO, TO GET THOSE IN WHERE WE CAN. OKAY. UH, SHEILA, YOUR I'D SAY SHEILA, UH, SHEILA AND CARLA, NOT TO INTERRUPT BEFORE WE START. WE DO GET TWO QUESTIONS DURING THE Q DURING THE PRESENTATION. SHOULD I BRING THOSE UP NOW? UM, SURE, SURE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. OKAY. UM, SO THE FIRST ONE, UM, AND I GUESS MAYBE, UH, TEDDY YOU MIGHT BE BEST TO ANSWER OR SOMEONE FROM HOME. TEAM FIVE. UH, HOW SOON FOLLOWING PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL WILL THE DETAILED SITE PLAN BE AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW AND SUBMITTED [00:30:01] TO THE COUNTY? UM, VERY GOOD QUESTION. I WOULD SAY WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON THROUGH PRELIMINARY PLAN IS SOMETHING CALLED THE SDRC, UM, WHICH IS BASICALLY DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE. UH, BASED ON YOUR PLAN SUBMISSION, IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL THERE, WE'RE GONNA PUT OUR FOOT ON THE GAS TO GET A DETAILED SITE PLAN, UH, UP AND RUNNING READY TO SUBMIT. I WOULD SAY CURRENT TIMELINE, WE'D MAKE OUR INITIAL SUBMISSION TO THE COUNTY, UH, ON THAT DETAILED SITE PLAN AND SHARE THE RELEVANT, UH, INFORMATION THERE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS LATER. UM, SO CALL IT, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, SDRC IN MARCH, UM, YOU KNOW, CALL IT AUGUST, SOMEWHERE IN THERE SUMMER, LATE SUMMER. UM, AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION WE HAD WAS, UH, FOR FUTURE PRESENTATIONS, I'D LOVE TO SEE A SITE MAP LAYING OUT THE TYPES OF BUILDING USES, UM, AND BY COLOR PALETTE WITH MORE CONTRAST SO IT'S EASIER FOR FOLKS TO TELL, UH, WHAT ARE CONDOS VERSUS APARTMENTS VERSUS RETAIL, ET CETERA. ABSOLUTELY. AND WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT MORE SO GENERALLY HERE, UH, THERE'S NOT MUCH CONTRAST. I GET YOUR POINT , UH, BUT YELLOW, THAT SORT OF LIGHTER YELLOW COLOR ARE APARTMENT BUILDINGS. UM, THIS SORT OF MORE TAN COLOR, UH, AND SMALLER UNITS WHERE YOU CAN SEE SMALLER LINES. UM, THOSE ARE TOWN HOMES. UH, AND THEN ORANGE ARE CONDOS. THESE TWO ORANGE, I'LL CALL 'EM ORANGE, BUT CAN SHARE THIS AND REMOVE A LOT OF SORT OF THE HUBBUB THAT'S ON TOP OF IT, SO IT'S EASIER TO SEE. GREAT. UM, PAT CARLO AND BRIAN, THERE WAS THAT QUESTION VERY EARLY ON FROM PAUL ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND THE BUS LINE. UM, AND PEOPLE ARE PUTTING OTHER QUESTIONS IN. IF YOU AT ALL CAN FIND THE Q AND A, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THERE. I'M KEEPING AN EYE ON THE CHAT AS WELL, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THOSE QUESTIONS, UM, LATER ON. OKAY. YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND DOING THE PUBLIC TRANSIT ONE NOW, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS AND COME BACK. LEILA, I THINK EVERYBODY'S WRITING. WHO IS WRITING IS WRITING IN THE CHAT, NOT THE Q AND A. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE Q AND A. UM, I, I DO SEE IN THE Q AND A. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, YEAH, SO REGARDING METRO SERVICE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING SERV, ACTUALLY, JOHN, YOU'VE BEEN CLOSER TO THIS, SO, AND I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY JUST, OR JOHN OR CHUCK, THEY, THEY JUST PUT OUT, UM, UPDATED MAPS. YY YEAH. SO, UM, EARLY ON IN THE, UH, UH, PROJECT, WE MET WITH METRO PLANNING STAFF, UH, SHOWED THEM WHAT THE INTENDED, UH, USES WERE FOR THE SITE. UH, WE WERE AFRAID QUITE FRANKLY, THAT WE WOULD LOSE THE EXISTING METRO BUS, UH, SERVICE ONSITE. UH, IN THE INTERIM, UH, THEY WERE ACTUALLY VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT, UM, KEEPING THE FOUR EXISTING. WHAT WERE THEN THE FOUR EXISTING, UH, METRO BUS LINES, UM, INCLUDING, UM, UH, SERVICE TO THE CH METRO STATION, UH, IS, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, UH, FOR FINANCIAL REASONS. IT'S BEEN A BIG CONSOLIDATION OF METRO BUS SERVICE AND PRINCE GEORGE'S, UH, THE BUS SYSTEM, UH, HAS PICKED UP, UH, THE, UM, WHAT HAD BEEN THE, UH, THE METRO BUS SERVICE. SO, UM, IT IS, UH, UH, IT, IT'S NOT THE, THE, THE BUS SERVICE THAT WE HAD, IT'S NOT THE BUS SERVICE THAT WE HOPE FOR. UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT AS THE PROJECT PROGRESSES AND THEY SEE THE DEVELOPMENT THERE, THEY'LL SEE THE, UH, NEED TO ACTUALLY GET BACK TO SOME OF THE SERVICE THAT WE'VE HAD. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY. I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER NOW TO SHEILA AND THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD AFTER. OKAY. IF, UM, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I'D JUST LIKE TO RAISE A, A FEW, UM, A FEW ITEMS THAT SOME OF THEM WE'VE TALKED TO ABOUT, TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE BRING IN ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS WHO, WHO ARE HERE AND WANT TO TALK. UM, SO PARCEL 180 1 , WHICH IS OBSCURED HERE, THAT THIS ONE DOWN HERE? YES, YES. THERE. OKAY. SO, UM, THOSE WE KNOW ARE NOT TO BE DEVELOPED. UM, WHAT, WHAT, UM, YOU HAVE SAID BEFORE IS THAT, UM, THEY CAN BE IMPROVED. THAT IS WHAT WE HAD REQUESTED IS THAT THE CALORIE PAIRS BEEN BE REMOVED. UM, AND, UH, SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, THAT WERE MENTIONED BACK IN, UM, IN APRIL. UM, SO YOU WERE THINKING THAT, THAT [00:35:01] THEY COULD BE JOINTLY OWNED OR MANAGED BY A COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION OR XAVIER PARDON? DEDICATED TO THE TOWN OF BEVERLY? I'M, I'M NOT SURE. CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE WHAT DEDICATED MIGHT LOOK LIKE? UH, ESSENTIALLY THE DEED WOULD BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO, TO THE TOWN OF CHEV OR OKAY. THAT'S PERPETUAL EASEMENT FOR CONSERVATION. YEAH. IT CAN LOOK IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT FORMS, BUT YEAH. OKAY. I LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S, UM, ON THE PPS, UM, IT'S SHOWN AS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION DOES. I HAVE A BIG YEAH. WITH PROBLEM WITH COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. SO GIVE, GIVEN THAT WE WEREN'T IN ANNEX, WE'RE NOT ANNEXED YET. WE CAN'T, WE DON'T WANNA, WE'RE JUST SORT OF BEING SILENT ON THE ISSUE. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SHOW US WITH ANNEXATION OR WITHOUT ANNEXATION. SO, YEAH, SO ON STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UM, IT WAS PRETTY DIFFICULT TO SEE IN THE, UM, IN THE PPS, WHICH ARE THE ABOVE GROUND AND WHICH ARE THE, UM, UNDERGROUND. AND SO THERE, YEAH, SORRY, FINISH YOUR QUESTION. YEAH. SO I SAW THAT THERE WERE FOUR PARCELS WHICH ARE LABELED, UM, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, AND I THINK THOSE ARE INTENDED TO BE THE UNDERGROUND. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. AND, AND ALL THE OTHERS THEN WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD CALL MINI, UM, BIO RETENTION AREAS. YEAH. MINI BIO RETENTION AREAS. YEAH. YEAH. SO, UM, AT SOME POINT I'M, I WOULD LIKE US TO BE, TO, TO DISCUSS IN, IN GREATER DEPTH THE, UM, THE UNDERGROUND AREAS, INFILTRATION, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DETAILS OF THOSE. YEP. WILL THAT BE POSSIBLE? UH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND I'M WONDERING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A DETAIL ON THIS, BUT I CAN SHARE A DETAIL, UM, OF WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE ITSELF. UM, RIGHT. I'M JUST SEEING YEAH, I'LL MAKE SURE. I'LL, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO IF, IF THAT'LL BE PART OF THE, THE DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU MAKE AVAILABLE. ABSOLUTELY. VERY HAPPY FOR THAT. SO, UM, THEN, UM, I I, I, I'M NOT SURE OF THE, THE ABOVE GROUND BIO RE BIO RETENTION AREAS. I'M CALLING THEM ESDS. I'M NOT SURE WHY. YEAH, OKAY. UM, WHEN WOULD THEY BE INSTALLED? THERE'D BE PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION OF THE VERTICAL OR HOW WOULD THAT WORK? UH, SIMULTANEOUS. YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UM, AND TO BE FAIR, WE, WE WOULD NEED TO, WE WOULD NEED TO WORK THROUGH EXACTLY PHASING OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES ON SITE. 'CAUSE THOSE WILL BE INSTALLED BY THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONTRACTOR AND THEN THERE'LL BE A VERTICAL GENERAL CONTRACTOR WORKING ON, ON THE VERTICALS. UM, SO I WOULD SAY IT'S CASE DEPENDENT, AT THE VERY LEAST WE WOULD EXPECT PRIOR TO THE OPENING OF THE, OF A PHASE BEING GRANTED, CFO, THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE INSTALLED FOR THAT SPECIFIC PHASE. UM, WHERE IT HAPPENS IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. WE'RE JUST, WE'RE NOT EXACTLY THERE YET. OKAY. SO YOU BRING IN THE, THE SAME PEOPLE AGAIN AND AGAIN, . YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, SO IT PROBABLY WOULD BE AFTER THE FOUNDATIONS ARE BUILT OF THE, OF THE VERTICAL COMPONENTS TO THE EXTENT THEY'RE CLOSE TO THE FOUNDATIONS. I KNOW I'M GETTING WAY BEYOND THE LOT DESIGNATIONS HERE. , UM, OKAY. BACK TO THE LOT DESIGNATIONS. OKAY. SO THEN AFTER DIVISION AMONG THE PARCELS, IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE THERE WAS REALLY VERY LITTLE OPEN SPACE PARKLAND, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, IN, IN COMMON AREAS. MAYBE I'M JUST NOT SEEING IT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE OPEN SPACE WAS NOW RELEGATED MOSTLY TO THE, TO THE EDGES. BUT, BUT WHEN YOU SHOW US THE, THE CONCEPT WITH ALL THE GREEN IN IT, IT, IT LOOKS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I'VE JUST LOOKED AT THE PPS. UM, SO HERE'S, HERE'S AN ADMINISTRATION QUESTION. SO IF THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDERS, LET'S TAKE AN AREA RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE WHERE THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS. YEP. YEAH. WHERE YOU GOT YOUR, YOUR CURSOR RIGHT THERE, THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS. OKAY. AND, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AN OPEN AREAS [00:40:01] PARK AREAS. AND SO WOULD WE BE RE YOU'LL BE RELYING ON THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDERS FOR THAT PARCEL TO CREATE THE OPEN SPACES AND THAT WOULD BE THEIRS IF NOT COMMON AREAS. SO IS THAT MY QUESTION? I'M NOT SAYING IT. YEAH, NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A BIT CASE DEPENDENT. UM, AND FIRST OFF, THE INTENT IS FOR HOME TEAM FIVE AND US TO BE THE COMPONENT BUILDERS AS WELL. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT IS REALLY OUR BREAD AND BUTTER IS OF WHAT WE DO IS, IS BUILD NEW, CONSTRUCT NEW MULTIFAMILY. UM, SO THERE SHOULD BE ALIGNMENT, THOUGH. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN 'CAUSE IT'S NOT, THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALIGNMENT. UM, THE SPACE THERE, THE SPACE WITHIN THE PARCELS WILL BE OWNED BY THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY OWNER. THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS AS TO, UM, UH, PERMEABILITY OR PERVIOUS AREAS WITHIN A SPECIFIC LOT. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE MET, UH, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA. UH, THE GREEN SPACE SORT OF WITHIN THE LOT AND TAKING THESE TWO COURTYARDS FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE WOULD BE FOR THE USE MOST GENERALLY FOR THE USE OF, OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE, THE BUILDING. UM, OTHER GREEN SPACES THAT ARE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE LOT. AND THIS PLAN DOESN'T SHOW UP VERY WELL, NOR DOES THE PPS 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW REALLY PROPOSED LINE WORK, UM, ARE GONNA BE PUBLIC AREAS, UH, WHETHER THEY ARE ON A SPECIFIC PRIVATE LOT SPECIFIC DEDICATED COMMON AREA LOT, UM, OR NOT, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE AREA THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE IN THIS SORT OF DENSITY. UM, YOU KNOW, THE DENSER AREA THAT IS GOING TO BE IN ON ITS OWN COMMON AREA LOT IS THE VILLAGE GREEN. ABSOLUTELY. UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE JUST HAVEN'T EXACTLY FIGURED OUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE CARVING IT UP OTHERWISE. OKAY. UM, OKAY. AND, UM, AS FOR TREE TREE PRESERVATION, I, I THINK THERE'S A TSP IN THE OFFERING OR YEAH, THERE'S A TCP, UM, THAT, UH, YEAH, THAT WILL BE UPDATED. UM, THERE'S ONE FOR THE SITE CURRENTLY, BUT WE'RE UPDATING IT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. UM, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, BUT HAPPY TO, I THINK WE'VE SHARED IT BEFORE, UM, OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE ACREAGE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ARE. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE I SAID I'VE SEEN THAT, BUT OKAY. WELL I'LL, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT. THIS, THIS GO AROUND REGARDLESS. OKAY. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT, THAT WE HAD ASKED QUESTION BEFORE ABOUT THE BUILDINGS, AND THEN WE GOT REALLY BEYOND THE LOTS, RIGHT? UM, THE LEAD OR OTHER BUILDING STANDARDS. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THOSE. YEAH, SO THEY'LL BE DESIGNED TO, UM, EITHER LEAD SILVER OR A GREEN BUILDING STANDARD. I DON'T HAVE THAT ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. UM, WHAT WE, WHAT WE SET MM-HMM . UM, THEY'LL BE DESIGNED TO THAT STANDARD AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTIFIED IN SO FAR NOT THROUGH THE FORMAL LEAD PROCESS, BUT, BUT SELF-CERTIFIED AS CHECKED, UM, BY THE COUNTY PER OUR MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THEM. OKAY. UM, SO YOU DID SAY THAT THERE WAS A NOISE STUDY PERFORMED FOR THE NPS AREA, UM, ADJACENT AREA. UM, I THINK THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR AN AGREEMENT WITH NPS ON SOMETHING? UH, YEAH, WE WILL NEED THEIR APPROVAL, UM, TO THE EXTENT WE MAKE THE OUTFALL CONNECTION ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SLOPE HERE ON NPS LAND. UM, WE'LL NEED THEIR APPROVAL FOR THAT WORK. UH, AND WE'VE MADE INITIAL OUTREACH TO THEM FOR THAT DISCUSSION. AND THEN ALSO FOR A, UM, SOME OFFSITE WORK IMPROVEMENTS ALONG, UM, ALONG THE INTERCHANGE, UH, HOSPITAL DRIVE INTERCHANGE WHERE IT COMES WITH BW PARKWAY THAT IS STILL ON PARKWAY LAND. UM, WE'LL, WE'LL NEED THEIR APPROVAL THERE AS WELL. OKAY. UM, YEAH, I, I, THAT THAT'S THEN, IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S STILL THE SAME STATUS AS IT WAS IN APRIL? YEAH, BOTH. YEAH. OKAY. WE BOTH ITEMS WILL BE REFERRED TO NPS. WE'VE HAD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, UM, AND ESSENTIALLY THEY SAID, WAIT, YOU KNOW, SHOW SOMETHING FORMAL AND BOTH ITEMS WILL BE, REFERRALS WOULD BE MADE OUT TO THEM WHEN WE GET THE PRELIMINARY PLAN [00:45:01] ACCEPTED. AND THEN THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT, THAT, UM, WE THOUGHT MIGHT THAT, THAT DON'T HAVE COM COUNTY REGULATIONS. SO WE THOUGHT MAYBE THERE COULD BE, UM, SOME AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE MORE LIKE AN MOU DIRECTLY WITH THE TOWN AND THAT THINGS LIKE, UM, AIR QUALITY MONITORING, UM, UM, JUST IN GENERAL, NOT FOR THE, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION TIME, BUT THE, THE KIND SAME KIND OF AIR QUALITY MONITORING OR MONITORING WE HAVE IN THE REST OF CH MM. UM, AND THEN, UM, THE PARCEL 180 1 AIR, UH, QUESTION AND THEN THE BAMBOO, UM, ELIMINATION , IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. YEAH. UM, ALONG THE EASTERN FRONT. UM, YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE REALLY DON'T FALL INTO THE, DON'T FALL NEATLY INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL AREA, SO I'M GOING TO STOP THERE AND, UM, UH, CALL ON ANYBODY WHO HAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTION. WELL, THAT WAS, YEAH, I HAVE ONE SILENT, WASN'T IT? ? OKAY, HERE'S COMES DAN. ALRIGHT. HI. UH, THANKS, UH, APPRECIATE THIS. UM, ONE QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT THE, UH, LIKE THE WOODLAND AREAS THAT WILL BE REMAIN UNDEVELOPED AND THEN MANAGED IN SOME COOPERATIVE OR YET TO BE DETERMINED MANNER IN THE FUTURE, IS, I'D JUST LIKE TO THROW OUT THE IDEA THAT WE THINK ABOUT A POSSIBILITY OF BEGINNING THAT PROCESS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. THAT IF THE CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, UH, WHY COULDN'T WE BEGIN THE PROCESS? AND ACTUALLY, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO KNOW, LIKE IF RDA OWNS THAT PROPERTY NOW, UH, THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE IN MY VIEW FOR MANAGING THE PROPERTY AND ENSURING THAT IT DOESN'T DECLINE. SO IF THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT INVASIVES OR OTHER ISSUES TO DEVELOP AND, AND BE JUST DUMPED ON US WHEN THEY OWN IT. AND THE COUNTIES OWN THIS FOR A LONG TIME. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO PARK AN IDEA FOR US TO CONSIDER OF HOW TO HOLD THE, YOU KNOW, HOW TO RAISE WITH RDA, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THIS PROPERTY IN GOOD CONDITION, TURNING IT OVER TO US. AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S A WAY WE CAN COME UP WITH A JOINT MANAGEMENT APPROACH. UH, AND I MIGHT GO THROUGH A COUPLE PHASES, MAYBE IT'S A TRANSITION TO SOME ULTIMATE ONE THAT WE, UH, WILL WORK OUT LATER. UH, SO I DON'T REALLY EXPECT MAYBE AN ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT. I, I WOULD SAY JUST QUICKLY THAT THE RDA WOULD BE OPEN TO HEARING, HEARING ABOUT IT AT THE VERY LEAST. I MEAN, THEY, THEY, THEY DO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS. THEY'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE TOWN ON ANOTHER NUMBER OF ITEMS. YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S SOMETHING OF INTEREST, WE ARE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION. OKAY. AND THEN I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER THE POINT OF CONTACT IS, AND THEN WE CAN WORK THROUGH MAYBE THE THAT. AND THEN SECOND, I, I'VE GOT THREE QUICK ONES. THAT WAS THE FIRST. THE SECOND WOULD BE, UM, ARE THERE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES AND APPROACHES THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MINIMUM REQUIRED? AND SO I THINK WITH ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK, BUT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT'S ONE, BUT FOR ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSETS, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO KNOW IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE, UM, MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. LET ME GET BACK WITH A CIVIL ENGINEER AND PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE, ON THAT SPECIFIC ANSWER. UM, BECAUSE I THINK LOOKING AT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S REQUIRED AND WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING WILL, WILL HELP PROVIDE A LOT OF CONTEXT. I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, TOP THE TIP OF MY FINGERS. OKAY. AND THEN JUST MY FINAL ONE WOULD BE ABOUT THE BUFFER AND VW PARKWAY. UH, I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND SOME OF YOUR, YOUR CONCERNS THERE, BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO BACK UP. AND SO FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN I MOVED TO CH 40 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS NOT A CHEVROLET OAKS DEVELOPMENT. THERE WAS NOT HOUSING DOWN, UM, AT THE FAR END OF, UH, [00:50:01] FOREST ROAD. AND WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS OCCURRING, SOME OF US SPECIFICALLY RAISED THE POINT THAT THERE SHOULD NOT, THERE SHOULD BE A BIGGER BUFFER BETWEEN ROUTE 50 AND THE HOUSES. AND THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW, THEY SAID, NO, NO, NO, WE CAN FILL IT IN ALL THE WAY UP TO ROUTE 50. AND SO TODAY WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WITH THE BACKYARDS, UM, RIGHT ON ROUTE 50 AND AT DIFFERENT TIMES THERE'S CALLS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, A, UH, A WALL FOR A BARRIER THERE FOR SOUND, WHICH WOULD BE A PUBLIC THING. SO THAT'S A BACKSTORY. BUT ALSO WE'VE HAD SOME UNFORTUNATE PROPOSALS IN, UM, OVER THE LAST DECADE OF WIDENING THE BW PARKWAY. AND FORTUNATELY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WASH THOSE AT EACH TIME, BUT THEY COME UP. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF THIS OR A FUTURE ADMINISTRATION DECIDED THEY WANNA WIDEN BW PARKWAY, THEY WOULD REMOVE THAT BUFFER AREA LIKELY. SO JUST WANNA RAISE THAT FOR FOLKS TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CONCERN THAT, UM, WE, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE IF THERE, UH, YEAH, JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. SO THOSE ARE MY THANKS AND REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UH, POINT, JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, I THINK THIS IS THE AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AT LEAST. I WENT TO FOREST ROAD, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE BUFFER HERE IS 50 TO 60 FEET, UM, MAYBE NOT TO THE HOMES, BUT AT LEAST TO THE YARDS AND TO THE HOMES. IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE IT'S 80 FEET. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS, UH, CLOSER TO 380 FEET TO THE PROPERTY WITH A HUNDRED FEET OF TOPOGRAPHY IN BETWEEN THEM AS WELL TO THE BACKS OF THESE HOMES. SO IT'S ONE BUFFER IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER, I GUESS I WOULD SAY , BUT WERE YOU, BUT WEREN'T YOU SAYING THAT YOU WERE, UM, ASKING FOR THAT TO BE LESS THAN THE REQUIRED 300 FEET OR SOMETHING? THEY'RE ASKING FOR 600 FEET, ESSENTIALLY. AND WE'RE SAYING BECAUSE THE BW PARKWAY IS SO WIDE IN THAT AREA, WE ALREADY HAVE 300 FEET TO THE, THE, TO THE ROAD ITSELF, TO THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT ITSELF. UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 300 FEET. 'CAUSE THAT'S A ATYPICAL SCENARIO. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S, THAT A, A PARKWAY RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH WOULD BE AT LEAST 300 FEET ON ONE SIDE, POTENTIALLY 300 FEET. I, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, WHAT THE WIDTH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY. YOU JUST HAVE TO PREPARE TO DO SOME POLI POLITICKING IF THEY DECIDE TO WIDEN THE PARK. OH, TRUST ME, , IF THEY TRY, I'LL BE OUT THERE THOUGH. IT'S NOT, IT WOULDN'T BE AN EASY BUILD BECAUSE OF ALL THAT SLOPE AND TOPOGRAPHY AT THE VERY LEAST. OKAY. OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL, QUASI ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTIONS. LAYLA HAS A HAND RAISED SOMEWHERE. YES. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU. AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS, UH, BRIEF AND PLEASE REDIRECT ME IF THIS SHOULD GO INTO A PLANNING OR FOLLOW ON. UM, MY F FIRST THING IS THE RECREATIONAL PATH, I'M ASSUMING AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN OF SUBDIVISION, UH, UH, IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVING A LOOP, UM, THAT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN OF SUBDIVISION, JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY LOOK AT AT THIS POINT. UM, OKAY. SO IT'S NOT LIKE OTHER PATHWAYS. IT WOULDN'T BE, UM, INCLUDED IN THAT. IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN JUST A LITTLE MORE FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE SOMEHOW I THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT BE PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN OF SUBDIVISION, AND IF IT'S NOT, UM, AND I WON'T TAKE TIME NOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AS PART OF AN MOU OR PART OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT IS, UM, FOR MANY PEOPLE, UM, UH, A DEFINITE ASSET. UM, YEAH, NO, NO, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. UH, I THINK IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO, IT WOULD BE AN EASEMENT FROM PRIVATE OWNER TO PRIVATE OWNER. UM, AND THERE'S NO, UH, REAL MECHANISM OR REASON IT'LL SHOW UP IF WE SHOW IT HONESTLY. THEY'LL PROBABLY ASK US TO REMOVE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT THE TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT IS INCLUDED IN, UH, THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. UM, ON THE SECOND POINT, HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE PART OF A DETAILED SITE PLAN, UH, CERTAINLY. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MAKE SURE IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU IMAGINE SO TO SPEAK. UM, BUT IF YOU KNOW THERE'S OTHER MECHANISM THAT YOU WANNA PAPER IT, UH, HAPPEN, HAPPEN IT ACROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE. AND TEDDY, MAYBE AS A, EXCUSE ME, TEDDY, MAYBE AS A FIRST STEP, ALTHOUGH THIS IS NOT PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO, UH, MAKE AVAILABLE SOME OF THE SECTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT SHOW THE [00:55:01] PROPOSED ROADWAY SECTION, THE SEPARATED, UH, PIKER BIKER TRAIL AND THE SEPARATED SIDEWALK, UM, AS WELL AS THE USE OF PARKING, UM, AS A BARRIER, UH, UH, FROM THOSE, 'CAUSE IT'S, IT IS AN IMPORTANT DESIGN ELEMENT THAT YOU DON'T GET TO IN THE SUBDIVISION PLAN, JOHN. I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. YES. AND I THINK MANY, MANY OF US WOULD APPRECIATE SEEING THE, THE, THE THOUGHT THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THAT. UM, UM, AND THEN I, FOR SAKE OF TIME, I'M JUST GONNA KEEP THIS NEXT VERY BRIEF, UM, INTO THE, UH, POSSIBLE MOU OR OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR AN MOU, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE IDEA OF BAMBOO AND SOME OF THESE THINGS, UM, I KNOW I'VE REQUESTED FOR A LONG TIME TO ACTUALLY MEET WITH AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES BECAUSE OF, UM, QUESTIONS OF EROSION, QUESTIONS OF RUNOFF, THESE SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, NEGATIVELY AFFECTING THOSE HOMEOWNERS FOR, FOR DECADES WITH THE HOSPITAL. AND TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO ADDRESS, UM, THOSE IMPACTS FOR, FOR THE AFFECTED FAMILIES. SO THE, THE IDEA OF BEING IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THE, THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED, UM, UH, BY THAT FROM HOSPITAL DAYS. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. IS ANYBODY ELSE RAISING A HAND OR, OKAY. IF NOT, THEN, UM, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHEVROLET PLANNING BOARD. GREAT, THANKS. UM, BEFORE WE GET TO OUR QUESTIONS, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS COMING IN, IN THE, IN THE CHAT AND THE Q AND A FUNCTION. BRIAN, YOU WANNA SHARE SOME OF THIS? SURE, SURE. UM, YEAH, THE, THE FIRST QUESTION, UM, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT CONSIDERATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO INCLUDE RENEWABLE ENERGY. UM, I CAN HANDLE THAT IF, IF, UH, TED I'LL TAKE A, THE FIRST TO SWIPE AND GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. PART OF OUR, UM, UH, SUBMISSION, UH, WAS AN MOU WE SIGNED WITH THE BALTIMORE BASED CLIMATE ACCESS FUND TO, UH, PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOFS OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS. AND, UM, ACCORDING TO THEIR CALCULATIONS, UM, UH, AFTER BUILD OUT SOLAR PANELS ON ABOUT 50,000 SQUARE FOOT OF ROOFTOPS USING, UTILIZING MARYLAND'S COMMUNITY SOLAR LAW, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, THE SITE WOULD BE PROVIDING, UM, POWER FOR ROUGHLY 150, UH, LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S GOOD, THANK YOU. AND THEN RELATED TO THAT, UM, REGARDING SUSTAINABLE ENERGY, WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY SOLAR IN THE DEVELOPMENT? SO I THINK THAT I COVERED THAT. YES. AND, AND, AND, AND I MIGHT ADD TOO, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT THAT TOWNHOUSE DESIGNS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE E YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE, UM, EV EVERYTHING OF THAT NATURE FROM BI-DIRECTIONAL CHARGING OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, OWN ROOFTOP SOLAR PANELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, LET'S SEE, UH, THERE'S A FEW MORE QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER THE PLANNING BOARD. UM, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE IN ORDER FOR THE BUILD START FOR EACH PARCEL? THAT WILL BE, I'LL GIVE YOU THE FIRST ONE, WHICH WE EXPECT TO GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, LATTER HALF OF 2027. UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GREAT USE OF EVERYONE'S TIME TO JUST GO PIECE BY PIECE, BUT HAPPY TO SHARE A MAP THAT SELL SAYS, YOU KNOW, THIS PARCEL PROJECTED START DATE, THIS PARCEL PROJECTED START DATES ON AND SO FORTH. MM-HMM . YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN YOU SAID THE, THE FIRST ONE, UH, LATTER HALF OF 2027, WHICH IS THE EXISTING BED TOWER AND THE ATTACHED MULTIFAMILY BUILDING AS WELL AS THESE TOWN HOMES. UM, LET'S SEE, THE NEXT QUESTION. LET'S SEE. WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CH RESIDENTS TO INVEST IN THIS PROJECT? , THERE WILL BE. UM, WE ARE, WE HAVE, UH, SET ASIDE A, A SMALL SLIVER OR A SLIVER OF EQUITY PARTICIPATION AVAILABLE FOR BOTH ACCREDITED INVESTORS, LOCAL ACCREDITED INVESTORS, AND, AND ONE TRANCHE. AND ALSO, UM, REALLY AT THE SORT OF CROWDFUNDING LEVEL BETWEEN $250 AND UP. UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT GROUPS 'CAUSE IT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED FROM A SECURITIES PERSPECTIVE. UM, BUT WE ARE SETTING THAT UP AND FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME IF YOU WANNA BE ON THE LIST OF DISTRIBUTIONS. IT'S STILL WEIGHS OUT BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE IN THE VERTICAL COMPONENTS WHICH HAVE A MUCH MORE PREDICTABLE LIFESPAN THAN THE HORIZONTAL, WHICH WILL [01:00:01] BE SPRAWLING AND MORE COMPLICATED. UM, UH, AND LIKE I SAID, THAT WON'T GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THE LATTER HALF OF 2027. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE FROM COMMUNITY QUESTIONS FOR THE MOMENT. UM, WHAT NON-COMMERCIAL AMENITIES ARE THERE BESIDES THE TRAIL, UH, COURTS, A PLAYGROUND, A FOUNTAIN, A BANDSHELL, A BALL FIELD, ET CETERA? YEAH. UM, SO THE VILLAGE GREEN WILL BE PROGRAMMED AND, UM, WE HAVEN'T EXACTLY FIGURED OUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO, WHAT IT, WHAT IT ALL IS GONNA GO INTO IT, BUT IT'S ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE. UM, WE KNOW WE'LL HAVE SORT OF GATHERING SPACES IN DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PLACES THROUGHOUT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A SPLASH PAD, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BRING IN THE COMMUNITY TO THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS. ONCE WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES, UM, DOG PARK ABSOLUTELY WILL BE ON THE SITE. UM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT A PLAYGROUND AS WELL. HAVEN'T FOUND THE EXACT LOCATION FOR THE PLAYGROUND, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKELY TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND AS WELL. UH, TEDDY, IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT THE BELOVED SLEDDING HILL WILL BE PRESERVED. THAT'S RIGHT. AND, AND A GOOD TIME TO POINT IT OUT AFTER YESTERDAY, . YEAH, EXACTLY. AND, AND, AND I WOULD ALSO ADD TOO THE, UH, UM, AND THREEQUARTER ACRE, UM, THE TOPOGRAPHY AS SUCH AS, AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE NEW ROAD, YOU'LL BE ACTUALLY, THE SITE ITSELF WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW YOU. SO, SO THERE'LL, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STEPS, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL, ALL, ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS. YEP. SO YOU CAN SEE STADIUMS EATING HERE. RIGHT. WE'LL SEE IF WE BRING THE CLOWN WITH THE BALLOON ANIMALS WITH US. AND, AND IF I MAY POINT OUT, IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY AN AMENITY, BUT THE ORIGINAL MISSION STATEMENT FOR HOME TEAM FIVE, UH, IN THIS WAS DATE NIGHT ON THE HELIPAD, THE IDEA THAT THAT WOULD BE A COMMUNITY AMENITY, UH, AVAILABLE TO ALL YEAH. . AND THAT'S THIS AREA UP THERE AND, AND IT WILL BE PUBLIC SPACE AND, UH, POTENTIALLY, UM, A LITTLE BIT BELOW AS WELL. BUT THE VIEWS ARE SPECTACULAR. NOW'S NOT THE TIME TO GO UP THERE AND LOOK, BUT, UM, UH, THE VIEWS ARE, UH, SPECTACULAR, INCLUDING THE NATION'S CAPITAL AND WASHINGTON MONUMENT, ET CETERA. GREAT. UH, BRIAN, WAS THAT THE END OF THE QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH, THAT'S THE LIST THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. WONDERFUL. UM, FELLOW [IV. Board / Committee Questions and Comments] PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS OPENING IT UP FOR THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. STEVE JOHNSON JUST GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEMOGRAPHIC YOU PROJECT ON THE RESIDENTS. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, UH, UH, UH, WHAT ARE THE ECONOMIC DEMOGRAPHICS? ARE YOU, YOUR RESIDENTS, YOU THINK THEY'LL BE, YOU THINK IT'LL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN SHARE SOME, SOME INFO. WE HAVEN'T FOCUSED ON IT FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT. UM, I WOULD SAY IT, THE RENTS THAT WE EXPECT TO ACHIEVE ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE NATURALLY FALL INTO THE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 80% A MI RANGE FOR THE BROADER DC METRO AREA. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 90, I THINK OR SO, UH, 90,000 FOR ONE PERSON HOUSEHOLD. UM, SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. UM, I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT IS EXACTLY AROUND WHERE THE RENTS WOULD FALL IN. UM, THOUGH WE DON'T LOOK IN, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T FORECAST IN THAT MUCH DETAIL PAST, YOU KNOW, PAST JUST GENERALS. UM, AND THEN ON THE RETAIL SIDE, YEAH, IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR. I MEAN, REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE MIRRORING SOMEWHAT THE, UH, SOCIOECONOMICS OF, OF THE TOWN OF SHEWAY ITSELF. WE HAVE, I, I SHOULD NOTE, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY SOME, UH, SENIORS AFFORDABLE AT THE PROPERTY, AND THAT IS, IT'LL BE A VERY, VERY SMALL COMPONENT OF IT. WE DON'T KNOW THE PROGRAM. AGAIN, IT'LL BE A SMALL COMPONENT OF IT. UM, AND THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE 60% A MI EARNERS, UH, YOU KNOW, AND SENIORS SO RESERVED FOR, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 60, 63 PLUS OR 62 PLUS. OKAY. SO ARE YOU INCLUDING ANY SUBSIDIZED, UH, UNITS? UM, THOSE WILL BE LIVE TECH, LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT UNITS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'LL BE RENTS SET AS AT A CERTAIN LEVEL. UM, BUT NOT PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS. SO NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT DEEP INCOME OR DEEP AFFORDABILITY LEVELS AT LEAST PLANNED RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THE SITE. IF THERE'S WILL MORE GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE, BUT AS WE'VE UNDERSTOOD IT TO DATE, THERE'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, NOT A, UM, ALONG EITHER FROM THE COMMUNITY OR [01:05:01] FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE POLICY MAKERS FOR, FOR THAT LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY ONSITE. THANK YOU. CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THAT? WHAT I, I'M, I'M SURE THERE'S OTHERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL, BUT I WONDER, I'M ASSUMING THAT NOW IS NOT THE TIME WHEN FINAL DECISIONS ARE GONNA BE MADE ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW MANY ARE GONNA BE IN THAT SENIOR AFFORDABLE CATEGORY, UM, WHEN, AT WHAT, AT WHAT POINT IN THE PROCESS DO THOSE DECISIONS GET MADE? WE WILL BE TRANSPARENT WITH YOU AS WE ARE CONSIDERING THINGS. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT AS A WAY TO BRING MORE DENSITY TO THE SITE EARLIER, PAY FOR MORE INFRASTRUCTURE EARLIER IN THE PROJECT, TO REALLY, TO REALLY GEN, UH, START THIS. WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TOO FAR DOWN THAT ROAD YET. UM, WHEN WE DO AND WE THINK IT'S A REALITY, AND IT'S, WE THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA ADVANCE TOWARDS DETAILED SITE PLAN, POTENTIALLY WE'LL BE TRANSPARENT AND OPEN. WE'LL COME, WE'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW EITHER, YOU KNOW, AT A BROADER DOWN OF CHEVERLY MEETING OR A PLANNING BOARD MEETING OR, OR WHATEVER. OKAY. AND AT THE VERY LEAST, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO IT VIA DETAILED SITE PLAN, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, YOU'LL, YOU'LL KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE THAT. GREAT. WE'D LIKE TO GO NEXT, CARL. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF, IF WONDERFUL FUN. BRIAN. UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED DURING THE PRESENTATION, UH, TE ABOUT TWO VARIANCES. WAS THERE ANOTHER VARIANCE ABOUT THE DEPTH OF BACKYARDS, THE ONES THAT ARE ABUTTING, I GUESS THE TOWN OF CHEV ON THE EAST SIDE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING ELSE THAT I'M THINKING OF THAT IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NUANCE, AND UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THE PLAN UP FOR YOU. UM, BUT WHAT THE, IT WON'T BE IN A VARIANCE, BUT JUST SO NO, SO IT'S NOT GONNA SHOW UP IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN AT ALL. UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE POTENTIALLY ARE GOING FOR A CHANGE IN TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, FOR, OR A TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, EXCUSE ME. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE SETBACK FROM THE TOWN OF, TO THE, TO THE, UM, EDGE OF THE H HOMES. IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT THE DISTANCE FROM THE DISTANCE OF THIS DRIVEWAY APRON, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IT'S VERY GRANULATED HERE. UM, BUT IT IS THIS OR PIXELATED, BUT IT IS THIS, UM, THIS DISTANCE HERE PER THE COUNTY CODE, GIVEN THAT THOSE ARE THE BACK YARD, BACK YARD, THE REAR YARDS, UM, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REAR FACING OR IT'S A REAR LOADED. SO VEHICLES DRIVE FROM THE REAR, UH, TOWN HOME. SO THESE ARE THE REAR YARDS PER THE, THE, UH, COUNTY CODE DEFINITION, AND THE ALLEY NEEDS TO BE IN ITS OWN LOT. SO THE REAR YARD, ESSENTIALLY THAT THEY'RE REQUIRING IS THIS DRIVEWAY APRON. WHAT THEY REQUIRE IS A 15 FOOT MINIMUM DRIVEWAY APRON FOR TWO CAR GARAGES ALREADY. THAT IS A, IT'S AN AWKWARD DISTANCE BECAUSE IF PEOPLE TRY TO PARK IN THAT APRON, THEIR BUTTS ARE GONNA BE STICKING OUT THE BUTTS OF THEIR CARS ARE GONNA BE STICKING OUT IN, IN THE ALLEY ITSELF. AND B, WHAT IT DOES, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHOLE ASSEMBLY FUNCTIONS MUCH BETTER AT, CALL IT 10 FEET OR EIGHT FEET OF DRIVEWAY APRON, BECAUSE THEN WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS GIVEN MORE SPACE TO THE GREEN SPACE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOMES IN THIS CASE. SO YES, IT IS A REAR YARD SETBACK DEFINITION, BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S WHAT IT IS IS CREATING MORE PAVEMENT, UM, AND CONCRETE RATHER THAN LESS. YEAH. SO, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IN THIS IMAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, THE HOMES THAT ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE FACING THE TOWN OF CH AND THEN THIS CHANGE REQUEST INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF SPACE BETWEEN THOSE HOMES AND THAT TOWN LINE, OR ARE THOSE ALSO BEING CHANGED? NO, THAT, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE AFTER. OKAY. AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY JUST TO MOVE THEM LIKE THIS AND KEEP THE REST OF IT THE SAME, BUT JUST MAKE THIS LITTLE DRIVEWAY APRON RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE, IT'S YOUR DRIVEWAY WHEN YOU'RE PULLING INTO YOUR GARAGE OF A TOWN HOME, UM, SMALLER. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. UM, UH, YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED BEFORE THE ROADWAY THAT'S THERE CURRENTLY IS QUASI PUBLIC, OR IT'S OWNED BY THE RDA, AND THEN THE INTENT IS THAT THE ROADWAY WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY AS IT STANDS TODAY, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. AGAIN, GIVEN THAT ANNEXATION HASN'T GONE THROUGH, UM, IT'S, WE HAVE TO PRETEND AS IF EVERYTHING'S COUNTY, JUST SO WE'RE DON WE'RE NOT CONFUSING THE REVIEWERS MM-HMM . UM, BUT TO COUNTY OR TOWN, DEPENDING ON WHAT JURISDICTION WE'RE IN [01:10:01] IT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE TOWN PUBLIC WORKS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AND WE'VE KEPT THEM IN THE LOOP. SO IF IT IS ANNEXED, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE, UH, UNOFFICIALLY AT LEAST THE TOWN PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN ABLE TO HAVE INPUT AHEAD OF TIME. OKAY. SO, UH, IF, IF THAT PROPERTY IS NOT ANNEXED, IT'S DEDICATED TO COUNTY, IF IT IS ANNEXED, THE ROADWAY IS DEDICATED TO TOWN, THAT, THAT'S THE INTENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN FOR ADEQUACY FINDINGS, IS THE, IS THE CERTIFICATE OF ADEQUACY INSIDE THE, THE PRELIMINARY CLAIM PROCESS? I'M NOT QUITE SURE OF THE DETAILS OR IS IT A SEPARATE APPROVAL THAT'S DONE BEFORE OR DURING PRELIMINARY PLAN? IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY INSIDE OF IT. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO THAT. ONE IS THE HPA ONE IS, UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY. ALL OF THAT ROLLS UP TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL AND, AND THE, UH, ADEQUACY TEST. OKAY. UM, LET'S SEE. UM, I KNOW WE'RE AT THE PLUMER PLAN OF SUBDIVISION, SO IT'S, UH, MAYBE IT'LL BE MORE RELEVANT, MORE THE DETAILED SITE PLAN, BUT, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE AT THE ENTRANCES OF THE SITE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE, UH, THE ROADWAY CONNECTIONS. UM, WE'LL SEND OVER A PRESENTATION THAT GOES INTO THE DETAIL OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM, WE'RE SHOWING MINI CIRCLES, MINI CIRCLES, MINI CIRCLES, AND THEN TRAFFIC COMMENT THROUGHOUT THE SITE. SO, YEAH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN, SORRY, I'M GOING BACK AND FORTH THROUGH MY NOTES. UM, TRANSIT. YEAH, I HAD A KIND OF TRAFFIC QUESTION. TRANSIT QUESTION. YEP. BRIAN, CAN I JUMP IN? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, PLEASE DO. I'M STILL GOING THROUGH MY NOTES. WELL, IF YOU'RE DOING THAT, UM, UH, AND IT, IT REALLY, IT'S, IT'S A BRIAN QUESTION TOO. SO ON THE BIKE TRAIL GRANT, DOES THAT COVER ONLY FROM THE PROPERTY TO THE ANACOSTIA, OR IS IT ALSO WITHIN THE PROPERTY? IT, IT IS NOT WITHIN THE PROPERTY. UH, THE IDEA IS THIS PROJECT WILL PROVIDE THE TRAIL CONNECTIONS THAT, UM, DOWN HOSPITAL DRIVE TO LIDDELL AND THE GRANT, UH, FOR THE INTERIM TRAIL CONNECTION PICKS UP AT LIDDELL AND KENWORTH. BASICALLY, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. CAN YOU SHOW US ON THE MAP WHERE THAT GOES? UH, LET ME PULL UP, UH, GOOGLE MAPS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, OKAY, WHILE, WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, IF I MAY, UM, SO I, I THINK THAT, THAT WE'RE STILL CONSIDERING, UM, UNIVERSAL DESIGN ON THE, ON THE BUILDINGS, UM, LIKE UNIVERSAL DESIGN UNITS THROUGHOUT, UH, THROUGHOUT ALL BUILDINGS OR THROUGHOUT A BUILDING WHERE, WELL, MAYBE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM THROUGHOUT, THEN SAY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE . UH, YEAH. SO THERE WILL BE, THERE, THERE WILL BE ACCESSIBLE UNITS. UH, I MEAN, THE COUNTY COUNCIL RECENTLY PUT, PUT FORWARD A BILL THAT ALL UNITS IN ALL MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS, UM, ARE TO BE SUBJECT TO UNIVERSAL DESIGN STANDARDS. UM, THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S LOWER COUNTER DEPTH COUNTERTOP HEIGHTS FOR EVERY SINGLE UNIT IN THE BUILDING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AREA BENEATH THE SINK FOR EVERY SINGLE USE UNIT IN THE BUILDING. UM, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, PER COUNTY STANDARDS, THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO. I WILL SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT IS MORE FEASIBLE FOR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE UNITS WITHIN A BUILDING, MUCH LIKE THERE ALREADY IS WITHIN THE LITECH PROGRAM, UH, TO QUALIFY FOR THAT. 'CAUSE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE UNITS, THOSE, THOSE UNITS ARE ACTUALLY HARDER TO LIVE IN FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WITHOUT THE SAME ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES. UM, SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, TO BE HONEST. UH, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, UM, YOU KNOW, UNIVERSAL DESIGN STANDARDS WILL BE PREVALENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE, UH, PERIMETER OF THE SITE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE COMPLYING WITH ALL LOCAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS REGARDING A DA ACCESSIBILITY, PUBLIC ACCESSIBILITY, AND ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE. THANK YOU. UM, SO HOSPITAL [01:15:01] DRIVE HERE, UH, DOWN PEPSI PLACE TO LIDDELL, AND THEN KENNELWORTH IS WHERE THE INTERIM GRANT, I BELIEVE PICKS IT UP. MM-HMM . UM, AND THEN ACROSS TO 52ND AND THEN DOWN TO THE ANACOSTIA TRAIL, RIGHT, JOHN? THAT'S CORRECT. COULD GO A LITTLE BIT MORE NORTH. IT, IT, UH, IT WOULD BE UP THE EAST SIDE OF KENWORTH AVENUE, BARRIER PROTECTED CROSSING AT 52ND SOUTH ON 52ND, AS TEDDY SHOWED YOU, UH, TO THE, UM, STUB OF THE, UM, ANACOSTIA CONNECTION RIGHT THERE. RIGHT THERE. UM, AND, AND THEN FOR THE, THE SHARED USE PATH, I THINK THAT YOU'D MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THAT IS NOT PART OF THE PRELIMINARY CASE. WOULD THAT BE OWNED BY, I GUESS, THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO LIKE THE PARK AND REC? UM, SO WHERE IS OFF THE ROAD? IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT YET. UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY GUT INTUITION WOULD BE IT'D BE OWNED BY THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, BUT IF IT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR IT TO BE PARK RE I, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SURE WE FEEL STRONGLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, UH, THOUGH I DON'T WANNA SPEAK OUTTA TURN ON THAT, SO, OKAY. IF, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S AN IDEA ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, HAPPY TO CONSIDER IT. AND, YOU KNOW, MORE THOUGHT, I THINK M-N-C-P-C DOES A GOOD JOB MAINTAINING THEIR TRAILS IF IT'S A, GOT IT. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IF I PUT IT MY SENTENCE. UM, AND THEN FOR, UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I, I ASSUME WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT ONCE IT'S SUBMITTED WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAN AND IS YEAH, WE CAN MAKE IT AVAILABLE BEFORE. UM, IT, IT SHOWED, UH, VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED ONLY ONCE YOU GET TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF, UM, OF DENSITY TO THE SITE, ESSENTIALLY WHEN YOU'RE 50% OR SO WAY THROUGH, UH, ADDING IN OR RES STRIPING AT LEAST. SO THERE'S A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE, UM, FROM THE INTER PW PARKWAY INTERCHANGE AT 2 0 2. UH, RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S JUST ONE LANE FOR ALL MOVEMENTS WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM THE PARKWAY TO 2 0 2. AND, AND THE ONE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADD A RIGHT TURN LANE, DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE THERE. OKAY. FROM THE PARKWAY? FROM THE PARKWAY AND THEN NO, NO, UH, CHANGES TO, UH, 2 0 2 AT THE, THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE, THERE WERE A SIGNAL IS, UM, NO, THAT, SORRY, THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT, WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE 2 0 2 ITSELF WOULD BE A NO U-TURN SIGN FOR THE LEFT TURN BAY ON, UH, ON WESTBOUND 2 0 2. OKAY. UM, AND THEN, UM, I, I GUESS WE'LL SEE WHAT THE TRAFFIC SAY, BUT IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE THE NUMBER OF TOTAL INCREASED TRIPS FOR THE CHEVROLET INTERSECTION. NOT WHETHER IT'S, WHETHER IT MEETS THE ADEQUACY FINDING OR NOT. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH TRAFFIC TO, UH, TO NOT MEET IT, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY HAVING A SENSE OF LIKE, THIS IS HOW MANY ADDITIONAL TRIPS WE EXPECT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE. SO I HOPE THAT'S PART OF THE, THE, THE STUDY OR IF YOU CAN INCLUDE IT THAT GREAT. YEAH, 100%. AND WE ALSO CAME UP WITH SORT OF A STANDALONE DOCUMENT. 'CAUSE WE PRESENTED IT OUT TO THE TOWN. IT PROBABLY WAS 18 MONTHS AGO AT THIS POINT, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EVEN TWO YEARS AGO. UM, BUT THE FINDINGS OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY TO THE TOWN, UM, FOR SPECIFICALLY THE INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE TOWN, AND THAT'LL BE EASIER TO PARSE THROUGH THAN THE, UH, THE WHOLE TRAFFIC STUDY. SO I CAN, I CAN TRY TO DIG THAT UP AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, CARLO, I SEE KAYLA HAS HER HAND RAISED. OH, YES. SO GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. UM, I HAVE MY HAND RAISED BECAUSE I'M NOT ABLE TO DROP QUESTIONS INTO Q AND A. SO AFTER WE GET TO THE QUESTIONS IN Q AND A, I HAVE QUESTIONS THAT ALIGN WITH THE PLANNING PORTION OF THIS. GOT IT, GOT IT. OKAY. BRIAN, UH, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD BEFORE, AND I'M GONNA GO TO LANE TO SEE IF SHE HAS ANYTHING. I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM LAYLA. YEAH, WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE, UH, SKIP OVER ME FROM THE TIME BEING. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. LANE, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU WANTED TO ASK? YEAH, WELL, LET ME, UM, BROADEN IT BACK OUT. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND RESHARING YOUR SCREEN, TEDDY, WITH THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE SITE PLAN, UH, WHICH IS PRETTY HELPFUL. AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE TALKED TOO MUCH IN THIS MEETING, AT LEAST ABOUT RETAIL, UH, SPACE. AND I WAS HOPING YOU COULD GO OVER AND, UM, JUST SHOW US ON THAT SITE PLAN, UH, THE RETAIL AREAS, TALK ABOUT THE SIZES OF THOSE AND WHAT THEY CAN REALISTICALLY ACCOMMODATE OR YOU HOPE TO ATTRACT. AND THEN ALSO, I THINK I HADN'T, UM, NOTICED IT OR I, I DON'T RECALL IF WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. THE, UH, LIMITED KEY [01:20:01] SERVICE HOTEL THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN. UM, WHAT, UH, UM, WHAT INCLUDING THAT, WHAT, WHAT BENEFITS THAT BRINGS TO THE, TO THE PROJECT, HOW, UM, THAT'S BEEN USED BEFORE IN SIMILAR, UH, PROPOSALS, IF YOU, UM, HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THEM, JUST LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE RETAIL SIDE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND I'M, I'M MAKING BOXES QUICKLY HERE. UM, ALRIGHT, SO WHERE I'VE JUST BOXED IS REALLY WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE FOCUS OF THE RETAIL IS GO IS GOING TO BE, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, IT IS AROUND 40,000 SQUARE FEET. I THINK WHAT I BOXED HERE IS PROBABLY 34 OR 35,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, GROUND FLOOR OF MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS FOR THE MOST PART. FORGOT THIS GUY, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT. UM, AND WHAT WE EXPECT, AND WE HAVE, UH, A RETAIL MARKET STUDY PERFORMED AND WHAT IT THINKS WE CAN SUPPORT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO RESTAURANTS, UH, A COUPLE SORT OF, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD BOUTIQUEY TYPE THINGS. MAYBE A, A WINE BOTTLE SHOP. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FROM A GROCERY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ALWAYS A FOCUS, YOU KNOW, NOT MORE THAN WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY STORE. THERE'S THOSE THAT EXIST IN DC WILL BE LOOKING TO BRING SOMETHING HERE JUST TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SMALL FOOTPRINT, SMALL FORMAT THOUGH. SO, UH, THINK, YOU KNOW, TWO TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET, NOT TRADER JOE'S, WHICH IS 15,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, JUST WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA IN THE CAPTURE AREAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT SUPPORTS. HAPPY TO PROVIDE SORT OF THE HIGH LEVEL, THIS TYPE OF RETAILER, THIS MANY SQUARE FOOTAGE. IT IS FROM OUR RETAIL MARKET STUDY, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR REVIEW, IF THAT'S SOMETHING OF INTEREST. YEAH, FOR SURE. THAT THAT'D BE GREAT. THANKS. AND THEN, UM, THE HOTEL ASPECT, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT, SORRY, THE HOTEL, UM, THAT WAS A STRONG PREFERENCE FROM THE RDA TO INCLUDE ON THE SITE. UM, WE DO THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR BOTH THE TOWN AND BE GIVEN PROXIMITY TO MULTIPLE DIFFERENT SORT OF DESTINATION CENTERS, UH, WE THINK THERE, IT, IT, UH, IT'S VIABLE. UM, IT WOULD BE SMALL, IT WOULDN'T BE UPFRONT. NO ONE WANTS TO STAY IN A HOTEL OF AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE OR A SITE THAT CONTINUE TO GROW. UM, SO IT'D BE A LATER PHASE. UM, AND PROBABLY NO MORE THAN LIKE 70 TO 80 KEYS. UM, SO ROOMS WITHIN THE HOTEL, HOTEL, THINK LIKE FAIRFIELD AND IN SUITES, THAT TYPE OF THING. ALRIGHT, GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, BEFORE I THANK YOU LANE, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO QUESTIONS, UH, COMMUNITIES PUT IN THE Q AND A, COULD YOU TALK, IS THERE ANYTHING RELATED TO PARKING THAT'S GONNA BE INCLUDED IN THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN? THINGS LIKE HOW MANY SPACES, WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA BE RESERVED FOR RESIDENCES OR RETAIL, ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT GOES IN THIS PARTICULAR SEGMENT OF THE REVIEW? UM, NOT ON THE PLAN. THERE MAY BE SOMETHING RELATED TO OUR STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE AFFIRMING THAT WE WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COUNTY. UM, HAPPY TO GET INTO DETAIL, ESPECIALLY AS WE START TO WORK THROUGH A LITTLE MORE DETAIL OF, YOU KNOW, PHASE ONE PLAN, ONCE WE GET TO DETAILED, UH, MORE DETAILED DRAWINGS, COME BACK, COME BACK TO THAT IS WHAT I'M HEARING. UM, AND THEN OTHER QUICK QUESTION I HAD WAS AROUND, WELL, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF, UM, PUT A PLUS ONE ON WHAT PAUL WAS ASKING AT THE BEGINNING RELATED TO ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT. AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, WITH THE CHANGEOVER FROM WADA TO THE COUNTY BUS, UM, THERE'S MAYBE NOT AS MUCH INSURANCE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, BUSES AND WHATNOT, BUT I, UH, I THINK THAT IS A CRITICAL PIECE OF THIS. AND SO, UM, JUST THROWING IN THERE THE IMPORTANCE I THINK OF, OF CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION AND LETTING US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP AND, AND MAKING SURE NOT ONLY THAT THE BUS IS RUNNING, BUT ALSO THAT THERE'S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE, YOU KNOW, COVERED AREAS TO WAIT AND, AND WHATNOT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE USING IT. NO, ABSOLUTELY. AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD VERY EARLY CONVERSATIONS WITH, AS JOHN MENTIONED, WITH METROS PLANNING FOLKS. UM, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT TIME ONCE WE GET ACCEPTED AND ONCE WE WE GET THROUGH THE INITIAL COMMENTS, IT'LL BE TIME TO, TO TOUCH 'EM AGAIN. GREAT, GREAT. UM, BUT, BUT, BUT THE DESI, I'M SORRY, THE DESIGN IS, UH, INCORPORATES THE, UH, BUS TURNAROUND. SO THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT WE'LL, UM, HA HAVE, UH, SERVICE THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE LOSS OF THE, UH, METRO BUS, UH, REGIONAL ROUTES, AS YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW, THE [01:25:01] COUNTY PAYS, UH, ON A FORMULA BASIS FOR THAT SERVICE. UM, METRO, UH, HAS CUT BACK THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE REGION FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE, SUBSTITUTING THE, THE SINGLE, THE BUS LINE INSTEAD OF THE FOUR, UH, REGIONAL METRO BUS LINES MADE SENSE FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE. UM, WE THINK THIS, UH, WAS AND IS TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S CLOSE TO THE METRO STATION, BUT REALLY NOT WALKABLE FOR MANY PEOPLE. UH, SO THE BUS SERVICE IS ESSENTIAL AND, UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE'LL KEEP WORKING WITH BOTH THE, UH, COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND, AND, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND METRO ON, BECAUSE WE THINK THAT THE, THE NUMBERS ACTUALLY HELP SUPPORT A RETURN TO BETTER BUS SERVICE IN THE FUTURE. YEP. COULD NOT AGREE MORE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, OKAY, UH, THAT'S IT ON MY QUESTIONS. UH, LAYLA, YOU WANNA SHARE SOME OF THE ONES FROM THE Q AND A? UM, YES, I, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. SO IN THE Q AND A, I THINK THE THREE QUARTER OF AN ACRE IS A BACKYARD IS A REFERRAL TO REFERRING TO ONE OF THE PUBLIC GREEN SPACES. SO JUST TO TAKE NOTE THAT WE, WE'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE SIZE OF THOSE, UM, GREEN SPACES, BUT THEN THERE'S A QUESTION FROM NICOLE CALLAHAN. UM, ONCE YOU CLEAR THE BAMBOO, WHAT REPLACES IT AS A GREEN BUFFER ALONG THE CH BORDER, AND I KNOW THERE MAY NOT BE AN ANSWER TO THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU COULD PLEASE HAVE THAT AS A CONVERSATION WITH THE CLOSE END NEIGHBORS, UM, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN, UM, FOR THE HOSPITAL TOWER, THE HIGHER BUILDING, ARE THERE ANY WAYS TO INTEGRATE DESIGN ELEMENTS IN A WAY TO REDUCE BIRD COLLISIONS? JUST CURIOUS TO WHAT'S POSSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT THIS EVENING. UH, YEAH, I MEAN IT'S NOT, IT WON'T BE GLASS CURTAIN WALL WHERE I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF THEM. UM, UH, MORE GENERALLY I DON'T, I I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT THOUGH. I CAN CERTAINLY BRING IT UP TO OUR ARCHITECTS. THANK YOU. AND THEN THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME FROM THE CHAT FROM LISA. UM, THERE WAS NO MENTION IN THE RETAIL OF THE POSSIBILITY OF A COFFEE SHOP AND THERE'S STILL A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST IN A, IN A ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. I BURIED THE LEAD THERE. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS STRUCTURE HERE, AT THE VERY LEAST, WE ARE THINKING AS SORT OF AN ALL DAY CAFE, COFFEE SHOP, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WINE GARDEN AT NIGHT OR BEER GARDEN, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, YOU KNOW, PRIMARY USE IS A COFFEE SHOP. INDOOR OUTDOOR SPILLS OUT INTO THE VILLAGE. GREEN REALLY ANCHORS, ANCHORS THE SPACE. UM, AND ACTUALLY YOU CAN SEE IT MORE EASILY ON OUR SURRENDERING HERE, THIS SPACE. HMM, COFFEE. OKAY, COFFEE RIGHT THERE. . GREAT. OKAY. I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR THE PLANNING BOARD QUESTIONS. UM, SHEILA, DID YOU WANNA CLOSE [V. Closing] THIS OUT? OKAY. UM, AS WE ANTICIPATED, NOT ALL OUR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. WE'VE KEPT TRACK OF ALL THE QUESTIONS, ORAL AND WRITTEN, AND HOPE TO SCHEDULE FURTHER MEETINGS. AND I BELIEVE THAT, UM, UH, THAT, UH, THE, THE DEVELOPERS ARE, UM, A AMENABLE TO FURTHER MEETINGS. UM, OUR DISCUSSIONS HERE AND IN THE FUTURE WILL HELP US PREPARE AHEAD OF THE COUNTY'S ACCEPTANCE OF THE PPS. AS I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, ONCE THE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACCEPTS THE PLAN FOR CONSIDERATION, THAT'S WHAT ACCEPTANCE MEANS. IT JUST MEANS WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER IT, IT SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE SUB SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, THEN THE PLANNING BOARD STAFF REPAIRS ITS REPORT, AND THEN A PLANNING BOARD HEARING IS SCHEDULED. ONCE THE HEARING IS SCHEDULED, WE WILL HAVE 30 DAYS TO SUBMIT OUR COMMENTS. DOES EVERYBODY AGREE? THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES? I UNDERSTAND. SO, MM-HMM . SO DO WE WANT TO RIGHT NOW SCHEDULE A FURTHER MEETING? SHEILA, WE'RE GLAD TO MEET ANY TIME . OKAY. AND PENDING SHOVELING AND, UH, OH, SHOVELING. AND YOU CAN'T EVEN SHOVEL THIS STUFF, . IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. NO, AND, AND JUST LEMME MAKE IT CLEAR. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE, I MEAN, FOR FORMAL PRESENTATIONS, I'M GONNA NEED SMART PEOPLE, BUT EVERYONE'S WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO ME OR, UM, YOU KNOW, AT, AT ANY TIME WITH A QUESTION, WE'LL GET IT ANSWERED FOR YOU. HELLO, SHEILA? [01:30:01] YES. MAY I, UM, MAY I ADD SOMETHING OR ASK SOMETHING? PLEASE, YES, OF COURSE. SO I THINK SOME PEOPLE ON HERE ARE SO KNOWLEDGEABLE THAT, UM, THERE'S A TENDENCY TO FORGET WHAT THE REST OF US MAY NOT KNOW. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE PERFECTLY REASONABLE FOR ME TO BE COMING INTO THIS MEETING AND EXPECTING A LOT MORE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAN WHAT'S AVAILABLE, UM, IN THIS CONVERSATION. SO IF, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, TEDDY OR CHUCK JOHN, IF, IF YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THE LIMITS OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN SUBDIVISION, I KNOW WE'RE OVER TIME, BUT, UM, AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD ABOUT THE IDEA THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, THESE SORTS OF THINGS, JUST TO, JUST TO LIKE SET THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE NOW AND WHAT IS PREVENTING ANSWERS TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS IN THE, IN THE IMMEDIATE YEAH, UH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, WELL, SO PRELIMINARY PLAN AND SUB SUBDIVISION REALLY JUST SETS, AGAIN, SORT OF HOW I STARTED WITH THE OVERALL DENSITY ON THE SITE AND MAKING SURE OVERALL YOUR PLAN COMPLIES WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ZONING. IT IS THE VERY FIRST, UH, FIRST INITIAL STEP FOR ENTITLEMENTS. A STEP OF WHAT IS REALLY A TWO PART ENTITLEMENT PROCESS AND A THREE OR FOUR PART PERMITTING PROCESS. SO RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE GONE THROUGH, WE'VE STORM SHOWN STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLANS AND VERY BRIEFLY A WATER PLAN, YOU KNOW, ALL OF IT IS DONE AT A SORT OF A THOUSAND FOOT LEVEL BEFORE WE'VE DRILLED DOWN ONTO HOW SPECIFIC LOTS ARE GOING TO LOOK OR TIE INTO EACH OTHER. WE'VE HAD TO DO INITIAL GRADING, BUT UNTIL YOU GET ACCEPTED ON PRELIMINARY PLAN, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW, TO SHEILA'S POINT, THAT IS JUST ACCEPTANCE FOR REVIEW. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SORT OF COMMENTS WE'RE GONNA GET BACK. SO IT'S VERY HARD TO ADVANCE OUR ENGINEERING AND DETAILED ENGINEERING TO THE POINT WHERE WE'VE WORKED OUT ALL OF THESE VERY, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE GOOD QUESTIONS, UH, WE'VE WORKED ANSWERS FOR UNTIL WE CAN UNDERSTAND SORT OF WHAT THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE, AT LEAST FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE ARE. AND ONCE WE HAVE ALL OF THE ISSUES AT THE TABLE, ON, ON THE TABLE, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN SAY, ALRIGHT, NOW WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING. LET'S GO SOLVE EACH OF THESE PROBLEMS OR QUESTIONS OR, AND, AND GET TO DETAILED ENGINEERING WHERE WE ARE TICKING AND TYING ALL OF THIS SORT OF MINUTIA. WE UNDERSTAND O OVERALL WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO. UM, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW IT IS STILL VERY CONCEPTUAL TOWN, THOUSAND FOOT LEVEL. WE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ADVANCE OUR VERTICAL DESIGN BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ACCEPTED TO PRELIMINARY PLAN. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE DOING A LOT ON OUR SIDE AND WE ARE JUST TO GET ACCEPTED BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY PROCESS. BUT IN REALITY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING A LOT WITH ABOUT YOUR, YOUR HANDS TIED BEHIND YOUR BACK, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ALL OF, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF WHAT THE COUNTY OR ANY OF THE REFERRAL AGENCIES ARE GONNA REQUIRE AT, AT, UH, AT YOUR DISPOSAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT TIME. UM, CARLOS, SHEILA, THANK YOU FOR GREAT. WHAT GREAT . GREAT. UM, I ARE WE GOOD SHEILA TO CLOSE OUT THEM? OKAY. WELL THEN, UM, I HAVE TO SAY THAT THIS MEETING IS FINISHED FOR THE TIME BEING. YES. NEXT STEPS. WE WILL, WE WILL. WE'LL SEE YOU ALL AGAIN, . LOOK FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU. TALK SOON. THANKS EVERYONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TAKE CARE. THANK YOU. TAKE CARE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.