[I. Call to Order]
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CALL, THIS MEETING OF THE CH PLANNING BOARD TO ORDER.UM, WE HAVE, UH, SIX MEMBERS, NO, 1, 2, 3.
SIX MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE, WHICH IS GREAT.
WE'RE ONLY, UM, MISSING JOYCE.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE CORMAN, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START.
UM, IT'S BEEN, I THINK WE'VE HAD A BUNCH OF CHANGES SINCE, SINCE ALL OF US HAVE BEEN TOGETHER.
SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE JUST A QUICK MINUTE AND DO INTRODUCTIONS? UM, UH, UH, IF YOU WANNA SHARE, UM, YOUR NAME AND, UH, HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF THE PLANNING BOARD, ANY OTHER SORT OF INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR PROFESSIONAL HISTORY OR INVOLVEMENT LOCALLY THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE STILL GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
JUST TAKE A COUPLE SECONDS TO DO THAT.
UM, UH, I'M HAPPY TO GO FIRST.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE IN CHEV FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
PREVIOUS TO THAT, UM, WAS LIVING IN CALIFORNIA AND HAVE BEEN ON THE PLANNING BOARD JUST FOR, UH, A FEW MONTHS NOW.
UM, UH, BUT, UH, WAS, UH, A HOME HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE MEMBER IN MY CITY, IN, IN CALIFORNIA.
SO I HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN GENERAL.
UM, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? YEAH, BRIAN.
MY NAME IS BARBARA BROWN, UH, 30 PLUS YEAR, UH, RESIDENT.
I WAS NOMINATED BY A, UM, UH, BY, UH, UH, OH MY GOODNESS, UH, UH, MY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TO JOIN THE BOARD.
UM, OOH, I WANNA SAY BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
2019 OR 20 IS WHAT I'M THINKING.
UM, I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING, UM, AND IT WAS CHALLENGING FOR ME.
IT STILL IS KIND OF CHALLENGING BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, THINGS I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT I CAN, UM, MAKE THINGS MAKE SENSE AND I CAN FOLLOW.
SO IT WAS, UH, CHALLENGE FOR ME WITH, UM, TRYING TO LOCATE CERTAIN THINGS.
AND JOYCE, UM, WORKED THAT OUT FOR ME, UM, A YEAR OR SO AGO.
SO I'M EXCITED FOR BEING ON, ON THE, UM, PLANNING, UH, BOARD, UM, GROUP.
OH, AND, UM, I, I, I LIVE IN, UM, WARD SIX.
I'M A 30 PLUS YEAR, UH, RESIDENT.
UH, MY BACKGROUND IS ENGINEERING, ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING, BUT, UH, UH, I'VE TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT, SO I'VE SEEN DEVELOPMENTS GO UP ALL OVER THE WORLD, SO I THOUGHT I HAD SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE.
I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF LIKE, MAYBE TWO YEARS NOW, I THINK.
UM, BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 18, COMING ON 19 YEARS ON THE PLANNING BOARD FOR ABOUT 17 YEARS.
I WAS PAST PRESIDENT BEFORE AT ONE POINT.
UM, SO I'VE DONE ECONOMIC AND, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE WORLD.
UH, WORKED IN THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS, WORKED FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT HELPED SUPPORT UNDERSERVED URBAN COMMUNITIES IN THE US UH, FOR A WHILE, UM, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MY BACKGROUND.
UM, MY BACKGROUND IS IN LAW, EXCUSE ME ONE MINUTE.
WHO HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES YET.
BRIAN AND BRIAN, WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME.
YOU, I THINK YOU'RE CONNECTED TWICE.
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COME BACK WHILE BRIAN'S FIGURING THAT OUT.LANE THOMPSON, UM, HAS BEEN A RESIDENT FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS.
MY BACKGROUND IS IN LAW, AND I'VE LIVED, UH, MANY PLACES THROUGHOUT THE US AND A COUPLE DIFFERENT PLACES INTERNATIONALLY.
SO I, I FEEL LIKE I'VE A LITTLE BIT, UM, BIT OF EXPERIENCE SEEING THE DIFFERENT WAYS DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES DO AND APPROACH THINGS THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR BOARD.
I TRIED MUTING ONE OF YOU, SO WHY DON'T YOU TRY UNMUTING AND SEE IF IT WORKS NOW
WELL, UH, WHILE HE'S COMING BACK IN, UM, SHEILA, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER OF OUR BOARD, BUT INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR CONNECTION FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW YOU.
UH, I'M, I'M VISITING FROM THE CHEVROLET GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, SO, UH, I'VE BEEN IN CHEVROLET FOR 38 YEARS.
UM, AND, UM, I'M, I'M HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE ARE DOING SOME COLLABORATIVE, UM, THINGS AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THEM.
I'M SHARING, UM, THE, UH, DOCUMENT THAT WE WENT THROUGH A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, BUT SOME, FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T HERE, THIS IS JUST A PLACE FOR US TO KEEP A ROSTER CONTACT INFORMATION, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AREAS OF INTEREST.
SO IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SHARE IN THERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE DID IT, AND YOU'RE ABLE TO, THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL.
UM, THE PLAN FOR THIS EVENING IS TO FOCUS IN ON THE AFTER, UH, DOING OUR LEADERSHIP REORGANIZATION TO FOCUS IN ON THE, UM, UH, THE DEVELOPER RESPONSES AND OUR COMMENTS ON THE DEVELOPER RESPONSES FOR CHEVROLET, UH, HILL.
UM, AND, UH, AND THEN IF WE HAVE SOME TIME, A LITTLE BIT OF STRATEGIC PLANNING, BUT REALLY THE, THE FOCUS IS REALLY ON THE, ON THE CH HILL DEVELOPER RESPONSES.
UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE WANTS TO ADD TO THE AGENDA OR CHANGE? SO ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH OUR, UM, UH, REVIEW MEETING WITH HOME TEAM FIVE TOGETHER WITH THE DEVELOPER RESPONSES? IS THAT THE IDEA? YEAH, WHY DON'T I ADD, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
WHY DON'T I ADD THAT IN HERE? UM, FIRST OFF, SO I'M GONNA PUT THAT FIRST.
UM, UH, SO THIS, THIS WOULD BE THE LIKE COMMUNITY MEETING, RIGHT? WITH DEVELOPERS.
I THINK MY ACTUAL, MY MEMBERSHIP IS STILL IN QUESTION.
IF WE HAD, THAT WAS AN OPEN ITEM.
WE HAVEN'T HAD QUORUM FOR THE BOARD TO VOTE ON ME.
AND THEN I SEPARATELY EMAILED NICOLE, MY TOWN COUNCIL, MY WARD REPRESENTATIVE, BUT DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING BACK.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF DAVID TANZI IS GONNA BE HERE AND IF HE HAD GONE AND SPOKEN TO THE COUNCIL OR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY ACTUAL MEMBERSHIP.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S PROPERLY DONE.
I SAW YOUR NAME ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA, BUT I DIDN'T ACTUALLY WATCH THAT MEETING AT AN APPOINTMENT.
DO YOU KNOW BRIAN, DID YOU HEAR FROM DAVID ABOUT, I SAW BOTH OF YOU LISTED ON, ON THAT.
I, I THOUGHT THEY WERE, YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE BOTH ACCEPTED.
I, NOBODY UPDATED ME AND I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, ATTEND THAT MEETING.
DON'T, DON'T TAKE TO THE BANK.
I'LL, I'LL GET AHOLD OF THOSE MINUTES.
I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT THAT APPOINTMENT WENT THROUGH AND IF FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE A VERY CLOSE VOTE TONIGHT, WE CAN ALWAYS
UM, ALRIGHT, UH, COUNCIL DAVID REACHED OUT AND LET US KNOW THAT HE HAS A CONFLICT THIS EVENING AND CAN'T MAKE IT.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA SKIP BY HIS REPORT, UH, AND MOVE ON.
[IV. Leadership Reorganization]
BUSINESS IS THE LEADERSHIP REORGANIZATION.UM, I'M NOT SURE I'M THE BEST PERSON TO ACTUALLY SHARE WHAT THE ROLES ARE SINCE I'M SO NEW TO BEING HERE.
IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN HERE A WHILE, OR MAYBE JEREMY SINCE YOU SERVED IN MANY OF THESE ROLES, WANTS TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, UH, HISTORICALLY WHAT FOLKS IN THESE, IN THE, IN THE ROLES IN THE LEADERSHIP ROLES HAVE DONE OR HOW THAT'S WORKED? YEAH,
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I MEAN, CARLA, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CHAIR OR A PRESIDENT, UM, USUALLY HAVE SOME KIND OF VP OR CO-CHAIR.WE'VE KIND OF TEND TO GO CO-CHAIR MORE RECENTLY, WHICH IS FINE.
UM, TO HELP OUT IF THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TRAVELING ON, YOU CAN'T BE THERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, USUALLY HAVE A SECRETARY OR, OR SOMEONE THAT'S WILLING TO TAKE NOTES, RIGHT? THE MEETING, THE MEETING MINUTES ON A GENERAL BASIS.
AND THEN WE'VE HAD AD HOC ONES AT TIMES, SO WE'VE HAD KEY PEOPLE ATED.
SO WHEN WE HAD THE, WE HAD A, UM, A CHARETTE PREVIOUS TO DOING THE LY SECTOR PLAN, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
LIKE WE HAD A PERSON IN CHARGE OF THAT OR DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT NATURE, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, SO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UM, WHEN IT BECAME, UH, APPARENT, UM, THAT JOYCE WAS READY TO TRANSITION OUT OF HER ROLE, SHE REACHED OUT AND ASKED ME IF I WOULD BE WILLING TO, UM, SERVE AS CHAIR.
I SAID I'M HAPPY TO STEP IN, ALTHOUGH I'M VERY NEW TO THE BOARD, BUT I'M HAPPY TO STEP IN, BUT I'M ALSO VERY HAPPY TO PASS THAT TO SOMEBODY WHO ELSE WHO WANTS TO, IT WASN'T SOMETHING I WAS, YOU KNOW, SEEKING.
UM, BUT I AM HAPPY, UM, TO, TO, TO DO THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, SHE AND I, I'M ASSUMING SHE ALSO REACHED OUT TO BRIAN ABOUT SERVING AS CO-CHAIR.
AND SO HE AND I HAVE SORT OF BEEN IN THESE POSITIONS TEMPORARILY UNTIL WE'VE GOTTEN OUR QUORUM, UM, AND WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.
UM, UH, BUT DEFINITELY IF THERE ARE OTHERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SERVE IN ONE OF THOSE ROLES, UM, SPEAK UP.
AND IF NOT, THEN I WOULD TAKE A MOTION, UH, ACCORDINGLY.
I'LL MOTION THAT, UM, CARLO SERVE AS OUR PLANNING BOARD CHAIR SECOND, UH, OTHER NOMINATIONS OR OTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
HAPPY TO SERVE, UH, UH, NOMINATION FOR CO-CHAIR.
BRIAN, YOU SOUND LIKE YOU MIGHT BE, UH, GOOD FOR THIS POSITION.
I NOMINATE BRIAN FOR CO-CHAIR.
I SECOND FOR CO-CHAIR BRIAN ACCEPT I IF NOMINATION
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS OR ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UM, I DID FIND THE MINUTES AND BRIAN AND I WERE APPROVED, SO, OH, THIS IS ALL, UH, VERY KOSHER.
UM, UH, THIS IS ALWAYS THE HARDEST ONE TO FILL, BUT, UM, UH, IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO'S WILLING, OR MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SERVE AS SECRETARY? UM, OUR HELP WITH MINUTES.
UH, WE CAN ALSO, IF WE ARE REALLY HAVING TROUBLE, WE COULD ALSO JUST SORT OF TAKE TURNS TAKING MINUTES, MEETING TO MEETING.
UM, UH, BUT IF THERE'S SOMEONE WILLING, UM, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
THEN HOW ABOUT, IS THERE SOMEONE WHO'S WILLING, BRIAN WAS NICE ENOUGH TO VOLUNTEER TO DO IT TONIGHT.
IS THERE SOMEONE WHO'S WILLING TO VOLUNTEER TO TAKE MINUTES AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND WE'LL, WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF A ROTATION.
SO LANE WILL SERVE AS OUR ACTING SECRETARY FOR THE NEXT MEETING, AND THEN WE CAN KEEP, UH, ROTATING, UM, UH, AROUND ARE THERE ANY OTHER ROLES? I KNOW JEREMY MENTIONED OTHER, UH, ROLES THAT THERE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.
ARE THERE OTHER ROLES THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED LEADERSHIP ROLES AT THE MOMENT? WE CAN ALSO COME BACK TO IT AS WE KEEP FIGURING OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, DON'T, AREN'T WE, AREN'T WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIKE A COUNCIL PERSON SIT IN WITH US OR SOMETHING? YEP.
COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI IS USUALLY OH, TAN.
I DO REMEMBER BRIAN WHAT IT WAS, HE HAD SOME KIND OF A CONFLICT TONIGHT THAT HE LET US KNOW HE WASN'T GONNA BE HERE, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT HE WILL BE HERE REGULARLY.
YEAH, I THINK HE WAS RELATED TO THE, UH, START OF THE MARYLAND LEGISLATIVE THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, WHICH I THINK HAPPENED YESTERDAY OR MONDAY.
WELL, THANK YOU, YOU ALL VERY HELPFUL.
[V. Cheverly Hill Developer Responses and Our Comments]
TO THE DEVELOPER RESPONSES AND OUR COMMENTS.SO AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING, WE HAD THE, UM, BEVERLY HILL DEVELOPER
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COME AND SHARE COMMENTS ON THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD POSED TO THEM, UH, AND HAD A VERY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH HIM.UM, AND, UH, UH, THE REQUEST FOR TODAY WAS TO SORT OF GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY AREAS OF AGREEMENT, AREAS OF CONCERN, FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, ITEMS THAT WE NEED ANSWERED, BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL UNKNOWN.
UM, AND SO I'M HOPING WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT TONIGHT AND SORT OF FINALIZE THOSE PIECES, RAISE THINGS THAT WE NEED, COMMENT ON AREAS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE DISAGREEMENT AMONGST US.
BEFORE WE DO THAT, THE TOWN HAS REACHED OUT TO ASK THAT WE, ALONG WITH THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, HAVE A HOST A COMMUNITY MEETING, VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPERS, UM, TO POSE ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS TO THEM, TO, UM, SORT OF GET THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TO DRAFT COMMENTS FOR THE TOWN, UM, AND, AND ALSO TO LISTEN TO COMMUNITY COMMENTS AND INCORPORATE THOSE AS WELL.
UM, AND I, I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THE TOWN, BUT SHEILA, AM I RIGHT THAT YOU SAID THAT THAT'S SORT OF BEEN, UM, PENCILED IN FOR THE 26TH? IS THAT WHAT YOU UNDERSTOOD FROM THEM? RIGHT.
SO THE WAY WE UNDERSTOOD IT, AND, AND I, THE WAY WE'RE PROCEEDING IS THAT IT'S NOT, THE TOWN IS IN THE POSITION OF FACILITATING AND IN ACTUALITY WE DON'T EVEN NEED THEM BECAUSE, UM, HOME TEAM FIVE HAS AGREED TO THIS MEETING FOR THE 26TH.
WE POLLED BOTH OF THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AND THE, UM, PLANNING BOARD.
AND, AND, UM, CHUCK HAS ACCEPTED THE 26.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD AND WE JUST NEED, I THINK, TO, TO SEND A JOINT NOTE TO HOME TEAM FIVE.
I CAN DO THAT IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU.
UH, I KNOW, UH, BARBARA, THAT YOU, ME, SO THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T MAKE THE 21ST, AND I KNOW BARBARA, YOU COULDN'T MAKE THE 26TH.
CLUB MEETING, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, SO I KNOW NO GOING IN.
SO WHAT, WHAT I WOULD HOPE THEN IS THEN JUST MAKE SURE THAT ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE GET, UH, ADDED IN TONIGHT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO FORWARD THOSE ON AT THAT.
SO, SO IT'S YOUR OPINION THAT, THAT IT SHOULD BE A VIRTUAL MEETING AND AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE CAN'T DO A HYBRID BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO RESERVE THE ROOM AND THAT HAS TO BE 90 DAYS AHEAD OF TIME.
SO, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR, FOR, UM, FOR THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT IN ANY CASE, YEAH, WE HAVE, I THINK WE SHOULD DECIDE TONIGHT WHETHER WE'RE GONNA TRY FOR HYBRID OR WE'RE GONNA SEND STICK WITH THE, UM, WITH THE VIRTUAL.
SO LET US, YEAH, BRIAN, GO AHEAD PLEASE.
UM, UH, WE SAID THE 26TH, WAS THERE A TIME WE HAVEN'T DONE THE TIME YET.
FOR PEOPLE? YEAH, I, I WAS ASSUMING SEVEN 30 SIMILAR TO OUR REGULAR MEETING.
I TRYING CONFIRM BECAUSE I JUST 10 NOTES.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA GET IT BECAUSE WE CAN DO THE PUBLICITY, UM, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY
UM, AND SO LET'S DECIDE IT'S GOING TO BE VIRTUAL.
I'M FINE WITH THE VIRTUAL MEETING.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S MUCH, GIVEN THE TIMING, IT'S JUST GONNA BE TOO TOUGH TO, TO SET UP SOMETHING IN PERSON, I THINK.
SO, UM, LAYLA HAS VOLUNTEERED TO DO THE FLYERS PUBLICITY THEN, SO THE NEXT THING WE NEED FOR THAT IS THE LINK.
AND YOU SAY THAT YOU CAN SET UP A LINK.
I'LL SCHEDULE A MEETING IN ZOOM, JUST LIKE I DID FOR TONIGHT.
AND I WILL SEND THAT AROUND TO, UM, TO YOU SHEILA, SO THAT YOU CAN, UM, SO THERE'S A LAYLA, CAN YOU AND LAYLA, I'LL SEND TO BOTH OF YOU SO THAT YOU CAN GET IT INTO THE, INTO THE FLYER.
AND YOU CAN DO THAT LIKE TONIGHT OR TOMORROW? I CAN DO IT AS SOON AS WE'RE OFF OF THE MEETING.
AND, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE A QUESTION AND, AND, AND CARLO YOU WERE SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE, UM,
WHAT I, WHAT I THINK PROBABLY MAKES THE MOST SENSE IS ONCE, UH, WE ARE DONE TONIGHT AND WE
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SORT OF KNOW THE AREAS WE WANNA ASK THE DEVELOPER ABOUT THE THINGS WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON MM-HMMTHEN MAYBE, UM, BRIAN, YOU, LAYLA AND I MM-HMM.
CAN FIND TIME TO TALK AND JUST SORT OF GET THINGS WORKED OUT FROM THERE.
LET, UH, BARBARA, SORRY BARBARA.
SO THE MEETING THAT'S BEING HELD ON THE 26TH, THAT WILL BE RECORDED.
I CAN LOOK AT IT AFTERWARDS OR SOMETHING.
UM, SO THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANNA ASK IS ON THE MATERIALS.
SO BRIAN HAD A SET OF MATERIALS FROM SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UM, AND I'VE GOT A SET OF MATERIALS WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE SAME
AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO COMMENT ON.
SO I'M, I'M GONNA TALK TO TR CHUCK AND TRY TO, TO, BECAUSE IF WE, OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE YET ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MATERIALS TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY COMMENT ON IT, THEN WE MAY NEED TO JUST PUSH IT BACK, I WOULD ASSUME.
RIGHT? WE CAN'T HAVE A MEETING WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR, FOR REMINDING US TO GET THAT SCHEDULED.
UM, AND I'LL MAKE SURE EVERYONE, AS SOON AS WE GET THESE QUESTIONS FINALIZED, I'LL SEND THAT AROUND TO, TO EVERYONE ELSE SO WE ALL ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO AS FAR AS THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE IS, IT'S CONCERNED, WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MADE THAT WERE PART, WERE MADE PART OF THE, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND, UM, UH, WE NEED TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE ON, ON THOSE, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, HOW, IN OTHER WORDS, LOOK AT THE PLAN AND SEE HOW THE PLAN FULFILLS THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OR IF IT DOES NOT, AND SO ON.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH, WITH HOME TEAM FIVE, I THINK.
ALRIGHT, LET'S TURN TO THE COMMENTS, UH, FROM OUR BOARD MEMBERS IN RESPONSE TO THEIR ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS.
SO I'M GONNA START WITH THE AREAS OF STRONG AGREEMENT.
AND BY THE WAY, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FINALIZED.
SO IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU NOTICE THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH THAT SOMEONE SAID THEY AGREED WITH, OR VICE VERSA, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT ISN'T HERE THAT NEEDS TO GET ADDED, OR WORDS YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS GONNA BE THE BASIS FOR A LOT OF THAT DISCUSSION, UH, MEETING.
UM, SO, UH, STARTING WITH THE AREAS OF STRONG AGREEMENT OF THINGS I'M SEEING HERE ARE, AND, AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT HANDY AND IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE IT OPEN ON YOUR COMPUTER IN THE EMAIL I SENT THIS MORNING REMINDING ABOUT, UH, TONIGHT'S MEETING IS THE LINK.
SO IF THAT'S HELPFUL, I CAN ALSO, YOU KNOW WHAT, GIMME ONE SECOND HERE.
LET ME ALSO JUST PUT THE LINK IN THE CHAT HERE JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T THAT OPEN.
SO IF YOU DID, IF THAT'S HELPFUL, THAT'S THE DOCUMENT I'M WORKING OUT OF HERE.
UM, SO, UH, IT'S MENTIONED ON HERE THAT, UM, THE THINGS WE AGREE WITH ARE DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING AS A STRATEGY INCREASE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH THEY MENTIONED IN THEIR ANSWERS.
UM, SIX FOOT WIDE MINIMUM WIDTH SIDEWALKS AND A DA ALTERNATIVE ROUTES ALONG STEEP GRADE ROADWAYS, UH, LIMITING DELIVERY TRAFFIC TO NORTH AND SOUTH ENTRYWAYS, UM, BIKE SHARE AND EV CHARGING, UM, BIKE STORAGE FOR MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS, LEAD CERTIFICATION
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FOR BUILDINGS AND NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN OR SOME KIND OF GREEN BUILDING STANDARD, UM, UH, COLLABORATION WITH COMMITTEES AND TOWN ORGANIZATIONS.ARE THERE ANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT ANYONE WANTS TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT OR QUALIFY IN TERMS OF THE THINGS THAT WERE WRITTEN FOR AGREEMENT? WERE THERE OTHER AREAS THAT ANYONE NOTICED THAT THEY WANNA MAKE SURE WE, UH, NOTE AS AN AREA OF AGREEMENT? I'M GONNA GIVE A COUPLE SECONDS OF WAIT TIME 'CAUSE I KNOW FOR SOME PEOPLE THEY'RE JUST READING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME NOW.
SO LET ME JUST STOP TALKING FOR 60 SECONDS AND GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO LOOK.
IS IT ALL RIGHT IF I ASK QUESTIONS TOO? PLEASE? PARDON ME? YES, PLEASE.
SO, UM, FOR SUPPORT FOR LIMITING DELIVERY TRAFFIC TO NORTH SOUTH ENTRYWAY, IT ASSUMES THE, UM, CONNECTION TO PRESENT DAY.
UM, SO, UM, UH, CAN, CAN, CAN ONE REALLY GET
SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS IT JUST PIE IN THE SKY? THAT'S ALL.
I, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT, AND I DON'T WANNA SAY IMPOSSIBLE, BUT VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO GET AMAZON TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT, I MEAN, THEIR RESPONSE INCLUDED LIKE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND SO LIKE LARGE DELIVERY TRUCKS.
UM, I, THAT THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT I, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEANING THEY'LL HAVE THOSE ACCESS TO NORTH AND SOUTH AND I THINK THAT IS A DOABLE ACHIEVEMENT.
I MEAN, THEY'RE MAIL, THEY'RE, IT'S A LETTER CARRIER TRUCK, YOU WILL SEE IT.
BUT, UM, IT ALL, SORRY FOR TAKING UP YOUR TIME
IT'S LIKE I GOTTA, YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY.
YOU KNOW, THOSE WILL BE THINGS WE'LL WORK WITH THE TOWN THOUGH, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REALLY UGLY ORANGE SIGN AND WHAT'S THAT ROAD RIGHT? COMING OFF OF, YOU KNOW, CHEVROLET AVENUES YOU COMING OFF OF 2 0 2 COMING INTO TOWN AND IT SAYS NO COMMERCIAL TRUCKS ON THAT ROAD.
UH, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE BECOME AN ISSUE AND I THINK THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS, THEN YOU CAN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DECIDE TO DEDICATE POLICE PRESENCE THAT CAN BE TICKETING FINDING, ET CETERA.
YOU CAN DESIGNATE THOSE PLACES, BUT THAT'S A PART OF A LARGER EFFORT ANYWAY.
UM, MOVING DOWN TO THE AREAS OF CONCERN, AND I'M GONNA DO THESE ONE BY ONE JUST BECAUSE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE WANNA ADD OR CHANGE, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET TO THEM.
SO THE FIRST THING HAD TO DO WITH THE 95% OF MULTI-UNIT HOUSING BEING RENTALS WITH ONLY 5% OWNER OCCUPIED.
AND THOSE WOULD JUST BE SENIORS.
UM, UH, IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, I, I WROTE THAT DOWN.
I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT REALLY PROVIDES A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES.
UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE IN TERMS OF WHETHER WE THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT BREAKDOWN OF, UM, RENTALS VERSUS OWNER OCCUPIED, BUT IT DEFINITELY WAS SOMETHING I AT LEAST WANTED TO BRING UP TONIGHT TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS WERE.
WELL, YOU CAN DICTATE THAT THERE'D BE MORE OWNER OCCUPIED, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE BASED ON THE ECONOMY MORE THAN, THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
IF NOBODY'S WILLING TO BUY YEAH, THEY GOTTA MAKE MONEY SOMEHOW.
SO I, I MEAN, I'M SURE THEY'VE DONE STUDIES AND THAT'S PROBABLY THEIR, UH, UH, THEIR, THEIR BEST GUESS AT IT RIGHT NOW.
I WONDER IF AT LEAST IT MAKES SENSE WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM TO ASK WHAT THE REASON WAS OR WHAT ECONOMIC INDICATORS LED THEM TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND IT.
I THINK IT IS WORTH BRINGING UP.
I KNOW I'VE, UM, HEARD DISAPPOINTMENT FROM SOME AGING RESIDENTS THAT WERE HOPING
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IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GETS DONE, UM, MORE QUICKLY, THEY WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO A CONDO TYPE ENVIRONMENT CLOSE BY.AND THEN WHEN IT TURNED OUT, OH WAIT, THIS IS REALLY GONNA BE APARTMENTS THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE, UM, IT JUST WASN'T QUITE THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR PROMISED DREAM OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, CONTINUE TO AGE NEAR CH.
SO I THINK IT, I I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT, WHAT DID DRIVE THIS DECISION.
IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.
I, I THINK ONE, I MEAN, AND OBVIOUSLY LIKE STEVEN SAID, IT'S GONNA DRIVE THE MARKET, BUT RIGHT.
SO I MEAN, I THINK THE QUESTION IS IF WE THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, DO WE, IS WE CAN SHOW MORE DEMAND THAN 48 UNITS THAT WOULD BE HOME OWNED.
THE ISSUE IS THEY'VE GOT THAT BIG APARTMENT TOWER AND SEVERAL OTHER PIECES.
SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL THE TOWN HOMES MM-HMM
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT.
JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT WE'RE ALL JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY YEP.
SO, SO AM I HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, JEREMY, THAT YOUR THOUGHT IS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSCIOUSLY BREAKING DOWN THE MULTIFAMILY IS THE RENTALS, THE TOWN HOMES IS THE OWNER, LIKE THAT'S THE WAY THAT THEY ENVISIONED IT AND, BUT IT'LL ADD UP TO MULTI, WE, WE SHOULD CONFIRM, BUT MULTIFAMILY IS ONLY REFERRING TO THE APARTMENT CONDO BUILDINGS, NOT TO THE TOWN HOMES.
I THINK WE, IT IS PERFECTLY FINE TO CONFIRM THAT YEP.
TO CONFIRM THAT WE DON'T WANNA MAKE IT ASSUME RIGHT.
BUT IT, BUT I'M PRETTY CLEAR LIKE IT'S MULTIFAMILY VERSUS RIGHT.
SO, UM, AND SO THERE ARE 48 SENIOR UNITS.
SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, DO OR DO WE NEED TO SHOW, CAN WE SHOW OTHER DEMAND OR CAN WE LOOK AT THEIR UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS AND SAY THEY'RE OFF BECAUSE WE KNOW X, Y, Z OR WE CAN WORK WITH OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS SAYING, HEY, THERE'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE DEMAND HERE.
UM, PRETTY, GEORGE COUNTY IS A DONUT, SO, UM, E ECONOMICALLY, SO WE'RE LIKE IN THIS KIND OF LITTLE MINI CORE.
AND THEN THE OUTSIDE IS, THERE'S MORE WEALTH ON THE OUTSIDE, THE INSIDE, NOT EXCEPT FOR US, WHICH WERE THIS LITTLE CH FOR THESE WEALTHIER.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUESTION OF HOW THEY LOOK AT THE SLICE AND DICE THE METRICS.
UH, LONGTIME SHIRLEY, RESIDENT SHAUNA JONES.
UM, I REALLY, UM, I KIND OF GOT A PROBLEM.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF ANNEXATION, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GONNA BE GOOD FOR US BECAUSE, UM, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE ABLE TO MANAGE THE TOWN THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND JUST KIND OF CONCERNED.
I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS, I HAVEN'T BEEN KEEPING UP WITH IT, BUT I THOUGHT LAST I SAW WAS A THOUSAND UNITS AND AFFORDABLE.
I MEAN, I, I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE OF IT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE, WE, WE WERE OVERWHELMED WITH IT, IN MY OPINION.
UM, WE NEED BETTER QUALITY HOUSING THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SUBSIDIZED.
UM, AND I WOULD BE CONCERNED IF IT'S JUST MOSTLY RENTAL.
UM, AND THEN HOW WOULD WE PAY FOR MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT AND TRASH? UM, THEY SAY IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A MISNOMER.
I THINK THAT'S, I, I DON'T SEE US TAKING ON ALL THAT RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN A SMALL TOWN AND SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED 50 PEOPLE TO DO THE JOB THAT YOU ONCE HAD 10 PEOPLE DOING.
AND THEN FROM WHAT I CAN SEE RIGHT NOW, JUST IN MY OWN PERSONAL OBSERVATION, YOU KNOW, BEING SEMI-RETIRED AND ALL, UH, IT IS LIKE, UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SUPERVISION AND WE JUST GOT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO 24 HOURS.
SO I WOULD BE, I MEAN, IT'S 24 HOURS, BUT I RARELY SEE A CAR, YOU KNOW, AND I'M HOME ALL THE TIME.
SO I JUST THINK IT MIGHT BE TAKING ON A LOT AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE BENEFIT, THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS ARE GONNA BE WORTH IT GIVEN THE MANAGEMENT AND FINANCIAL COSTS TO THE TOWN AND YEAH.
WE DON'T HAVE, WE BARELY HAVE A STAFF NOW.
THERE'S NO COURT CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THERE'S A LOT OF ROADS WITH POTHOLES, AND I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE ANYTHING GET MORE NEGLECTED BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF SOMETHING, IT WILL GO DOWN.
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY SO MUCH.
BEING HERE AND APPRECIATE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS.
UM, THE, ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, THE, THE NEXT THING I NOTED, AND I, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, BUT, UH, WE ASKED THEM ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEY SAID THERE MIGHT BE SOME SENIOR HOUSING AT 60% OF AREA MEDIUM INCOME, MEDIAN INCOME, BUT NOTHING ELSE AFFORDABLE.
I, I DON'T KNOW, I, I TRIED TO LOOK UP SOME INFORMATION ABOUT SORT OF RENT RESTRICTED UNITS IN THE AREA.
I HAD A REALLY HARD TIME FINDING ANYTHING.
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WHAT THE NEED IS FOR THAT.AGAIN, REALLY TOUGH TIME FINDING, SOMEONE ELSE MAY HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, ABOUT HOUSING ISSUES.
UM, SENIOR HOUSING IS VERY IMPORTANT, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, THEY WEREN'T CLEAR ON HOW MANY OF THEM THERE WERE GONNA BE, BUT, SO I'D AT LEAST LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT, ABOUT THAT.
ALTHOUGH I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO ASK, HONESTLY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S MORE OF LIKE WHAT THE NEED IS THAN ANYTHING.
BUT ANYONE HAS THOUGHTS ON THAT? I'M, I'M SORRY, ONE OTHER THING.
WHAT WAS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS AGAIN FOR THE MULTIFAMILY? DOES ANYONE HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF THEM? I, I THOUGHT I SAW A NUMBER AROUND A WHILE BACK AND IT WAS, I WANNA SAY IT WAS 700 OR A THOUSAND.
UH, THAT'S PROBABLY, I MIGHT BE EXAGGERATING.
I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IF ANYONE DOES, I I I HAVE NO IDEA.
BUT IF IT'S 5% IS 48 UNITS, SO THEN IT'D BE CLOSE TO A THOUSAND.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT OR, BUT YOU KNOW.
APPROXIMATELY, YOU KNOW, SO BETWEEN 900 AND A THOUSAND UNITS, IF THAT, IF WHAT THEY, IF THEIR RESPONSE IS CORRECT.
PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, UM, IT'S LIKE THE BIGGER THE HOUSE, THE FEWER THE PEOPLE.
THE SMALLER THE HOUSE, THE MORE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IF YOU HAVE TOWNHOUSES, YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT EASILY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE IN THE TOWNHOUSE.
YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY, YOU MIGHT HAVE TWO PEOPLE OR THREE PEOPLE.
SO, UM, SOMETIMES THE MORE SMALLER UNITS, YOU KNOW, THEY TEND TO REQUIRE MORE SERVICES.
ALL THOSE BIG HOUSES AND NOBODY'S IN THEM, AND ALL THE TINY ONES, THEY WERE, THEY'RE JAMMED JAM PACKED.
I, I'M JUST GLAD I CAN MAKE A COMMENT, THAT'S ALL.
DO WE, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE MARKET RATE ARE THEY, HOW MANY MARKET RATE DEPARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE AS OPPOSED? I MEAN, TO THE, UH, THE, UH, SUB, NOT SUBSIDIZED, BUT OVER THE LOW INCOME OR WHATEVER IT'S GONNA, EXCEPT FOR THEY, WHAT THEY SAID IS, EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE POTENTIALLY, UH, 60% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME, SENIOR HOUSING, EVERYTHING ELSE IS GONNA BE, MARKET RATE IS TOLD US.
AND THAT'S BEEN DIRECTED BY THE COUNCIL, THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
SO THEY'RE BEING DIRECTED TO LOOK AT MARKET RATE.
SO IF PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR A DIFFERENT MIX, OR YOU WANNA LOOK AT STUDY, WHAT IS THE, WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD MIX BASED ON OTHER THINGS? THAT'S NOT BEING MY UNDERSTANDING.
THAT'S NOT BEING THE, THAT'S NOT THE FOCUS.
WHAT DID, WHAT DID HE SAY AT THE, IN THE LAST MEETING WAS SOMETHING LIKE, UH, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT TO PROVE THAT MARKET RATE HOUSING IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY IS EFFECTIVE OR SUFFICIENT OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT YEAH, TO YOUR POINT, LIKE BEING DIRECTED BY THE COUNTY TO NOT PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN INCLUDING SOME SENIOR UNITS FOR 60% OF A MI.
SO TO THAT POINT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE POINT THAT WE ARE MAKING IN THIS AREAS OF CONCERN? OUR, OUR FIRST TWO ITEMS HERE, AND I GUESS PARTICULARLY THE SECOND ONE, UM, IF THEY'RE BEING, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO SAY TO THEM AT THIS POINT? IF THEY'VE BEEN DIRECTED BY THE COUNTY TO USE THIS MIX OF MARKET, MARKET RATE AND SO FORTH? I'M NOT, I AM NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM.
ARE WE SAYING WE DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE DOING WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING? I DON'T, I DON'T GET OUR POINT HERE.
WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY, VERY NEW TO THIS, SO, UH, SOMEONE PUSHED BACK IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OUR ROLE IS TO LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT AND SEE IF IT MEETS WHAT WE AS CH, AS CH RESIDENTS THINK IS GREAT.
AND TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT WHERE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE DECISIONS.
SO I'M ONE PERSON, BUT FOR MY ONE POSITION, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT THIS LARGE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SPACE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN THERE'S A HOUSING CRISIS IN THE REGION.
UM, SO THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY PIECE.
THAT'S JUST MY, UM, GENERAL BELIEF ABOUT HOW HAVING MIXED HOUSING ACROSS THE COUNTY AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE EVERYWHERE.
SO I, I WOULD PUSH BACK ON THAT, BUT I'M ONLY ONE PERSON.
SO IF THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD IS NO, WE, WE WANT A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALL AT MARKET RATE, THEN, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE THIS UP.
BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY PURPOSE FOR PUTTING IT IN THERE.
I WILL BE ON THE, I'LL BE ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM FROM YOU.
I, I, I'M A, A PRO MARKET RATE HERE.
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I HAVE A QUESTION.THE 60% THAT THEY'RE SAYING IS GONNA BE FOR SENIOR HOUSING, IS THAT CONDOMINIUM TYPE OR IS IT LIKE A TOWNHOUSE FOR SENIORS? WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING STRUCTURE IS SLATED FOR SENIORS? I THINK IT'S PART OF THE APARTMENT.
SOMEONE TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S PART OF THE APARTMENTS.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S NOT THAT 60% OF OF IT, OH, SENIORS.
IT'S THAT SOME OF THE UNITS FOR SENIORS ARE GOING TO BE, UH, AT A REDUCED PRICE.
AS PERCENT OF THE, UH, AVERAGE INCOME IN THE REGION.
LOWER THAN THE, THAN THAN MARKET RATE.
AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
BUT, UH, UH, IF ANYONE ELSE DIFFERENT.
SO MY, ACTUALLY, MY, I'M, I'M NOT, I THINK HOUSING'S IMPORTANT, BUT I'M ALSO NOT GONNA, IT, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO KIND OF MANDATE THE, UM, CAPITAL A AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, ALTHOUGH I WOULD BE CURIOUS AND WHAT I THINK OUR FOLLOW QUESTION SHOULD BE RELATED TO THE SENIOR HOUSING.
'CAUSE THEY DID SAY IN THEIR RESPONSE, UM, THIS, UH, HERE I CAN READ IT.
THE CURRENT PLAN DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THOUGH A TEAM OR THE TEAM TEAM IS STUDYING, INCLUDING A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SENIOR AFFORDABLE UNITS, UH, THESE WOULD HAVE AN AVERAGE OF 60% A MI.
AND SO I, I THINK THAT'S THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
WHAT DID THEIR STUDY DETERMINE? YEAH.
AND THEN HOW MANY OF THOSE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE FOR SENIORS AND WOULD BE AFFORDABLE? AND THEN ARE THOSE CONDO OWNERSHIP ONES? ARE THEY STILL ANTICIPATED AS RENTAL ONES? UM, YEAH.
CAN I GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE? 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S, UH, RELATED TO THIS, AND YOU'LL SEE LATER ON, THERE'S THINGS THAT COME BACK TO YOU.
SO THINGS TO THINK ABOUT AND NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ANSWERS NOW.
OR THAT, AND IT'S GONNA BE WORK FOR US.
AND ALSO THEN TO SEE WHO THE DEVELOPERS ARE THAT ACTUALLY DO THE PIECE, RIGHT? BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS, THEY'RE DOING AN OVERALL MASTER PLAN AND DOING A, THEY'LL DO A SITE PLAN FOR THIS, THEN IT'S GONNA BE UP TO INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP EACH PIECE OF THIS, RIGHT? BASED ON THEIR, WHAT THEY SEE AS AFFORDABLE.
SO THEY'RE DOING CONVERSATIONS WITH LOTS OF DEVELOPERS, RIGHT? JUST TO GIVE THE OVERALL THE PLAN, RIGHT? FOR THOSE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH LOTS OF DEVELOPERS.
THEY'RE SEEING WHAT THE MARKETS ARE BEARING WITH SIMILAR AREAS WITH CONTEMPLATE EVER TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
THIS DOESN'T MEAN IT'S EXACTLY GONNA HAPPEN EXACTLY THIS WAY OR WHATEVER.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, RULES ACCORDING TO WHERE YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN BUILD AND NOT, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THAT'S KINDA WHERE IT'S AT.
BUT I THINK SOME OF THE ISSUES TOO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, MAR YOU KNOW, UH, RENTAL VERSUS OWNERSHIP AND THE MIX OF THAT, UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TOWN HOME AND, YOU KNOW, THEY TALK REFERRED BACK.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS A LOT ABOUT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, IS THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION GONNA BE WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS? IS IS THE, OR IS AN APARTMENT BUILDING OR CONDO GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN ASSOCIATION? YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE TOWN HOME PLACES AROUND HERE BY US FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE AN ASSOCIATION, RIGHT? AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE'VE ALWAYS HAD IS, AND ONE OF THE BIGGER SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES AROUND THAT IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD BYLAWS AND A GOOD SYSTEM THAT CAN BREAK DOWN.
AND THAT CREATES ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS FOR THE PUBLIC AREAS.
AND IT LEADS TO ALL SORTS OF CHALLENGES, RIGHT? SO UNDERSTANDING WHAT ARE BEST PRACTICE OR GOOD PRACTICE AROUND THAT TO AVOID THOSE ISSUES, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE FUNDING AVAILABLE AND WHAT ARE THE PROJECTIONS FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT.
AND IS IT GONNA BE ONE FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT MIXES? SO YOU'VE GOT DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE IN PLACE, OR IS IT GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON PER BUILDING OR PER OWNER, RIGHT? UH, ARE THINGS WE'RE GONNA WANNA UNDERSTAND BETTER? BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA DRIVE, THAT'S GONNA DRIVE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AFTER.
IT'S LIKE, SAY EVERYTHING IS BUILT BY 2030, WHAT THINGS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE IN 2045? AND IS THIS A REALLY NICE COMMUNITY OR IS THIS KIND OF A RUNDOWN COMMUNITY OR PIECES OR PARTS OF RIGHT? UH, YEAH.
SO I, I'M, WHAT I'M GONNA DO FOR NOW IS I'M GONNA MOVE THAT DOWN FROM THE DISAGREE TO LIKE, GETTING MORE INFO THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED, WANT MORE INFO AROUND THE HOUSING MIX.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION INTERNALLY AFTER WE GET MORE INFO.
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DOWN TO THE NEXT SECTIONS AROUND, UH, LET'S SEE.MOST INTERNAL STREET SECTIONS INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN, BICYCLE FACILITIES, UH, RECOMMENDATION LIGHT GREEN SECTIONS, UH, PAVEMENT MARKING, SPEED HUMPS AT ENTRANCE TO SITE.
SOMEONE WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT ONE? SURE.
UM, THEY INCLUDED, AS WITH I GUESS THE PACKAGE OF THINGS, UM, THE STREET, STREET DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, ALL OF THEM HAVE, UH, EITHER A SEPARATED BIKE LANE OR BIKE LANES OR A SHARED USE PATH AND SIDEWALKS, WHICH IS GREAT.
UM, EXCEPT FOR THESE TWO ROADS THAT ARE LIKE THE EXTENSIONS OF, OF LOCKWOOD AND INWOOD.
UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THEM TO CONSIDER, UH, ADDING, ADDING A SPEED HUMP OR SOMETHING AT THE ENTRANCE FOR LIKE, SOME TRAFFIC CALMING.
'CAUSE I KNOW EVERYONE IN MY COMMUNITY, OR AT LEAST ON THIS SIDE, THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE NOW GONNA BE USING CITY STREETS, BUT ALSO HOW FAST THEY'LL BE GOING.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD PUT ON THE INSIDE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT IS ALSO TRAFFIC CALMING.
AND SO THEY WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
AND THEN THE CHERYL PAVEMENT MARKINGS ARE JUST TO KIND OF FURTHER INDICATE THAT BICYCLISTS COULD BE USING THIS ROADWAY.
SO DRIVE AT A RESPONSIBLE SPEED.
UM, THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, THAT'S THE SPACE THAT'S BETWEEN THE ROADWAY AND THE SIDEWALK.
UM, ALL OF THEIR, UH, ROADWAY SECTIONS SHOWED US SIX FEET.
UM,
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM ON THAT, UH, ON THAT, ON THAT MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S EVEN MORE INFORMATION AND NOT IN AREAS OF CONCERN.
BUT, UM, A QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS? ANYTHING ON THAT ONE? UM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, MAYBE YOU'VE NOTICED THIS ALREADY, THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE INTERNAL STREETS LEADING TO LOCKWOOD AND INWARD, THEY HAVE ADDED OR THEY'VE, THEY'VE DESIGNED, UM, A CURVE IN THERE, WHICH, TELL ME IF I'M RIGHT, BRIAN.
IT, I THINK THAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S INTENDED TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
I, I MEAN THE POINT WHERE THERE, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING
I WAS JUST SAYING WE, WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER THAT THEY, THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING
I THINK THE ONE THAT'S ON INWOOD DOES KIND OF HAVE THAT CURVE.
UM, BLOCKWOOD SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHT, AT LEAST BETWEEN THE, I COULD FIND IT.
YEAH, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT RECENTLY.
SO YEAH, SO THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING NOW SORT OF PRESUPPOSES THAT THERE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE THROUGH STREETS, AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S STILL UP FOR DEBATE.
SO I GUESS I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION, WHICH IS WHEN DOES THAT GET, WHEN DOES THAT, WHEN IS THAT DECIDED? AND WHOSE HANDS IS THAT IN? IS IT IN THE TOWNS? ARE WE AS A PLANNING BOARD GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN ABOUT THAT? UH, I KNOW THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT LOTS OF RESIDENTS FEEL REALLY, REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT.
SO I JUST, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T START TALKING IN A WAY THAT, UM, HAS A FOREGONE CONCLUSION IN IT THAT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED AND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW THAT, UM, DECISION WILL BE MADE? THEY AL ALWAYS SAID, THE DEVELOPER ALWAYS SAID THAT THAT'S A, UM, THAT THAT'S A TOWN DECISION.
YEAH, THAT'S MY, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING TOO IS THAT THE TOWN WILL GET TO THE SIDE.
UM, I, I WISH DAVID WAS HERE, UM, TO ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN I CAN.
DID, DID ANYONE KNOW? I DON'T THINK ANY DECISION'S BEEN
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MADE AS FAR AS I KNOW.THE LAST CONVERSATION I HEARD AT A COUNCIL MEETING, THERE SEEMED TO BE A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THE IDEA OF HAVING, UM, THE STREET CONNECTING, BUT THIS IS SOME TIME AGO.
SO I I I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSED MORE RECENTLY, THERE HAVEN'T ANY FURTHER ON, WELL, I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE STILL UNDER TAKING IN INFORMATION AND HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION.
'CAUSE THINGS AREN'T SET YET, BUT IT, IT'S TOWN, PROPERTY PROPERTY, SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY TOWN RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY'LL WORK WITH DO THAT NORMAL PROCESS WITH THAT.
I THINK THE TOWN WAS CONSULTING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO FIGURE, YOU KNOW, TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT ARE GOOD PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
JEREMY, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT WHEN THAT DECISION IS MADE, THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD BE ASKED TO SHARE THOUGHTS OR, OR NOT NECESSARILY? MM, HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
I MEAN, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY SHOW GOOD PRACTICES ABOUT HOW WE'RE, WHERE SUCCESSFUL PLACES ARE OR AREN'T, SO, YOU KNOW, UM, RIGHT.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU'RE GOING FOR INTEGRATION OR WITHOUT INTEGRATION.
I THINK IN THE PAST, IN PAST PLANNING BOARDS WE'RE VERY CLEAR THAT WE CLEARLY HAVE ISSUES WITH PEOPLE RIGHT AROUND THERE, BUT IF WE WANT TO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE NEED TO HAVE INTEGRATION.
WE DON'T WANT HAVE AN, TO CREATE AN ISLAND THAT HAS NO ACCESS IS NOT, THAT'S NOT HELPFUL.
SO THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU DO THAT IN A, IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY? BUT THAT'S NOT OUR DECISION TO MAKE.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE GOOD PRACTICES OR NOT AND WHAT ARE THE COST BENEFITS ON THAT.
BUT IT'S A POLITICAL DECISION CLEARLY.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD IS ABOUT THE ANNEXATION.
UH, RIGHT NOW, THIS ISN'T, I MEAN, THIS IS COUNTY LAND, UM, BUT THE CITY HAS, OR THE, EXCUSE ME, THE TOWN HAS STARTED ASKING ABOUT ANNEXATION, UH, AND MOVING THAT PROCESS FORWARD.
UH, IF, IF THE HOSPITAL SITE IS ANNEXED BY THE TOWN OF CH UM, IT WOULD BE, I I, I DON'T ENVISION A DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE CONNECTIONS IF IT'S ANNEXED BY THE TOWN.
YEAH, I THINK I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.
I, I DON'T, I JUST BEST PRACTICES IS ABOUT CONNECTIVITY AND WE WOULD WANNA CREATE THIS ISLAND, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S PART OF THE TOWN.
UM, IF IT'S NOT PART OF THE TOWN, THEN I THINK WE HAVE MORE LEEWAY TO SAY LIKE, AH, THOSE CONNECTIONS DON'T MATTER.
BUT THE DEVELOPER HAS ALWAYS MOVED FORWARD, ASSUMING THOSE CONNECTIONS WILL BE IN PLACE.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS, IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER OR FROM THE COUNTY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO THEY HAD SAID SOMETHING LIKE, WELL, THE TOWN CAN PUT UP PLANTERS TO BLOCK THE STREETS IF IT'S REALLY THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE, BUT IT'D BE DIF MORE DIFFICULT TO BUILD THE ROAD OR TO NOT BUILD THE CONNECTION AND THEN HAVE TO BUILD IT LATER THAN VICE VERSA.
WHICH I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IS TRUE, BUT I I I'VE ALWAYS BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD BUILDING THESE CONNECTIONS.
AND SO OUR ROLE IS, YOU KNOW, FOR RECOMMENDATIONS IS SAYING LIKE, LOOK, THESE COME IN, WE SHOULD HAVE TRAFFIC CALMING TO AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT APPROACHES THEM IS MOVING AT A SLOWER PACE OR A LESS NOTICEABLE PACE.
WELL, IS THERE ANY PROBLEM IN ADDING THAT SORT OF LANGUAGE TO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS HOT BUTTON ISSUE, IS THERE ANY PROBLEM IN ADDING THAT LANGUAGE TO THESE COMMENTS? SOMETHING THAT JUST SAYS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE THROUGH STREETS, IF THROUGH STREETS WERE APPROVED, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, RATHER THAN SPEAKING ABOUT IT LIKE WE HAVE IN SOME OF THESE COMMENTS NOW AS IT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION.
YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT FROM OUR EXPERTISE OR WHATEVER IS A PLANNING BOARD WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
I'M JUST SAYING THEY, THE DECISION'S GONNA BE CLEARLY THE, THE TOWNS AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA ASK FOR ALL SORTS OF, BUT FOR EVERYBODY, BUT EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THE TOWN THING.
AND WE CAN DEFINITELY HIGHLIGHT GOOD EXAMPLES OF WHERE, HOW IT WORKS AND HOW IT CREATES GOOD, GOOD, SAFE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE ACCESS.
AND IT CREATE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE-WAY STREETS WITH VERY LARGE SIDEWALKS WITH EXTRA BARRIERS, WITH ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS TO MAKE SURE RIGHT.
THAT, UH, THAT IT'S NOT THE ALTERNATIVE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE TOWN OF CH AND THAT'S SAFE FOR THE RESIDENTS NEARBY.
UM, THE NEXT ONE TALKS ABOUT PARKING FOR TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS AND ON STREET PARKING.
UH, DOES SOMEONE WANNA SHARE? SURE.
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IT WAS ANOTHER COMMENT I PUT IN, AND THIS ONE MIGHT BE MORE FOR THE TOWN OF CH UM, MANY TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE COUNTY AND FRANKLY IN OTHER PLACES IN MARYLAND, UH, END UP BEING UNDER PARKED.UM, THEY'LL, THEY'LL PROVIDE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR EACH UNIT, WHICH IS FINE, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S A TOWNHOUSE ON STREET PARKING DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE BETWEEN DRIVEWAYS.
AND SO IN MANY OF THESE COMMUNITIES, THEY RUN INTO A PROBLEM WHERE THERE IS NO AVAILABLE PARKING.
UM, AND EVEN WHEN I WORKED FOR THE PRETTY GEORGE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE.
LIKE WHEN A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT CAME IN, THEY OPPOSED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF PARKING CONSTRAINTS.
AND SO THE TOWN MAY NEED TO BE PREPARED TO DO PERMIT PARKING FOR THE STREETS THAT ARE ABUTTING THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE TOWN HOMES, UH, THEIR EXTRA CARS WILL FIND THEIR WAY TO THOSE STREETS.
UM, AND, AND IF THERE'S CHEV RESIDENTS, THEN MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S OKAY.
IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD, SO ANYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PARK THERE.
UM, BUT THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF HOMES IN THAT AREA THAT DON'T HAVE DRIVEWAYS OR GARAGES.
AND SO PARKING IS GONNA BECOME LIKE A NEW, A NEW PROBLEM THAT MAYBE THEY CAN HEAD OFF.
UH, BRIAN, THIS BEGS THE QUESTION, UH, DO YOU REMEMBER IF WE, DO WE ACTUALLY KNOW HOW MUCH, HOW MANY CARS CAN FIT IN THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE TOWNHOUSES? DID THEY MENTION THAT? SO ONE, I'M LOOKING AT 'EM NOW.
SO THE ASSUMPTION IS LIKE MAYBE ONE IN THE GARAGE IF THEY CHOOSE TO USE THE GARAGE, MAYBE ONE IN THE DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S SORT OF THE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE THINKING HERE.
THE PLAN THAT I'M LOOKING, IT DOESN'T SHOW THE DRIVEWAYS, IT JUST SHOWS THE PROPERTY LINES.
UM, BUT YEAH, THE, THE MEETING I HAD BEFORE THIS HAD TOWN HOMES AND THAT WAS THEIR PROPOSAL WAS A DRIVEWAY SPACE, GARAGE SPACE.
SOUNDS LIKE AT THE VERY LEAST, WE SHOULD ADD MAYBE HERE ASKING THEM THAT QUESTION.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE ANSWERS, BUT IT'S WORTH GETTING THAT NUMBER FROM THEM.
SO THEY'RE, THEY, WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THE, THEY'D HAVE A GARAGE FOR EACH ONE GARAGE FOR EACH TOWNHOUSE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH THE ALLEY.
THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY SPACE FOR ANOTHER CAR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
OH, IT'S JUST LIKE THE GARAGE A BUTTS OR ENTERS RIGHT FROM THE, THE UM, UH, FROM THE ALLEY.
I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER IT'S FRONT FACING OR BACK FACING, BUT I THINK A LOT OF 'EM ARE YEAH.
MAYBE THE QUESTION IS JUST HOW MANY PARKING SPACES EACH TOWN HAVE HAVE.
AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE'LL GET THE, THE COMMENT LIKE, OH, IT MEETS THE CODE MINIMUM.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, BUT THEN WHAT DO WE DO? YEAH.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD AREA CONCERN, BRIAN.
AND EVEN IF THEY, IF THEY'RE COUNTING THAT GARAGE AS THE ONE, THOSE GARAGES TEND TO GET FILLED UP RIGHT.
WITH STUFF AND NOT NECESSARILY USED FOR PARKING ACTUALLY.
I MEAN, WE WANT THERE TO BE MORE THAT THAT MINIMUM PROBABLY ISN'T SUFFICIENT.
UH, BIKE PARKING SPACES, UM, IS, HAS THERE BEEN, HAS THERE BEEN REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK, WHILE WE'RE ON PARKING, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OR SOMETHING ALREADY WRITTEN DOWN AND, AND THAT THERE'S GONNA BE STREET PARKING IN FRONT OF THE TOWN HOMES AS WELL AS GOING AROUND THE REAR AND YOU HAVE ONE CAR GARAGE CONCEPT? I DON'T REMEMBER IT, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THEY'LL HAVE STREET PARKING IN SOME OF THEM.
UM, BUT NO DRIVEWAY THAT'S NOT SHOWN ANYWHERE ON THE BLUEPRINT.
YOU KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE TOWNS BY, UH, BY NASA, BY THE LIGHT OFF OF 1 97, IT'S REAL TIGHT.
UM, SOME OF 'EM HAVE, THEY, THEY COME AROUND THE REAR FOR THE ONE GARAGE SPACE.
BUT THEY'RE JAMMED UP TOGETHER.
AND IF YOU TURN A LITTLE OFF AND THEY ALL HAVE THOSE ELECTRIC POLES ON THE, ON THE BACK END, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO PULL IN JUST RIGHT.
AND IT'S ALSO VERY SIMILAR TO THE TOWNS
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THAT ARE RIGHT BY THE LANDOVER METRO, BUT THEY SEEM TO BE A LITTLE BIT WIDER.YOU KNOW, THE ONES RIGHT HERE OFF OF 2 0 2.
THEY HAVE THEIR REAR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE REAR, UH, GARAGE, WHICH IT IS A NICE LOOK FROM THE FRONT, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY TIGHT.
AND THERE ISN'T MUCH STREET PARKING.
THERE ARE PROBABLY MAYBE FIVE SPACES ON A, ON A, ON A ROW OF LIKE SIX TOWNS, FIVE OR SIX TOWNS.
NOT MANY, NOT MANY INDIVIDUAL ADDITIONAL SPACES.
NO, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
THEY HAVE, MOST OF THE VISITORS HAVE TO PARK LIKE WAY ON THE SIDE, LIKE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AREA.
YOU DEFINITELY WON'T HAVE ANYBODY NEAR YOUR HOME.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE TO WALK A LITTLE BIT.
WELL, SOME KIND OF WAY THEY'RE SELLING, PEOPLE ARE BUYING THEM.
I WOULDN'T, BUT PEOPLE ARE BUYING THEM
HOW COULD YOU BUY SOMETHING WHERE YOU GOT NOWHERE TO PARK? THAT'S INSANE.
I MEAN, IF Y'ALL NOTICE, Y'ALL MAY NOT HAVE NOTICED, BUT BECAUSE WHEN PRICES GET REAL HIGH, LIKE PRICES HAVE GOTTEN A LOT HIGHER IN CHEVROLET.
IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY MOVES IN AND CREATE AN APARTMENT, AND IF YOU NOTICE, ALMOST ON EVERY BLOCK PEOPLE ARE PUTTING IN, IT'S, THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS NOT AN APARTMENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IF YOU WANT AN APARTMENT, GO GET AN APARTMENT, DON'T COME HERE AND TRY TO MAKE YOUR HOUSE INTO AN APARTMENT.
THINGS ARE TIGHT AND PEOPLE ARE RENTING ROOMS. THEY'RE LITERALLY RENTING FOUR ROOMS IN A, IN THREE BEDROOM HOUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, I GUESS IS WHAT PEOPLE GOTTA DO.
BUT THE PARKING ISSUE I THINK IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE TIGHT.
IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE TIGHT, AND IT SEEMS TO BE BUILT INTENTIONALLY TIGHT WHERE THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH ADEQUATE PARKING.
I MEAN, I, I I GUESS HONEY, LET'S SEE.
UM, BUT IT, IT'LL ALSO BE LIKE JUST SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF.
AND SO I THINK MAYBE IT'S ABOUT, MY OTHER COMMENT WAS THE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT SHOULD CONSIDER RESIDENTIAL PARKING FOR OVERNIGHT USE OF THE RETAIL.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR RETAIL IS, BUT LIKE, NO ONE IS SHOPPING AT 11:00 PM SOMEONE MAY NEED TO PARK.
LIKE THEY SHOULD USE THAT SPOT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IN THE MORNING THEY LEAVE FOR WORK.
I, I MEAN IT SOUNDS TO ME, I, BARBARA, I SEE YOUR HAND, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE JUST NEED TO PUSH 'EM A LITTLE BIT UNDERSTAND THE WHYS BEHIND THE DECISIONS THEY'RE MAKING.
THAT'S WHAT I, I KEEP HEARING FROM PEOPLE IS THEY MAY HAVE REALLY GOOD REASONS WHY THEY HAVE THE SPECIFIC PARKING NUMBERS THAT THEY PUT IN, BUT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE IF WE SUPPORT IT OR NOT.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, THEY, OR IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THE STREET, UH, THE, THE ROAD HAS TO BE CONDUCIVE TO FIRE TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES AS WELL AS THE TWO OR NO PARK OR SOME TYPE OF PARKING IN FRONT OF THE HOME.
HAS THAT EVER BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? ARE THERE ANY NOTES OR MAPS OR SOMETHING ON THAT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT IT NOW, THE HOUSE THAT, THAT WHOLE THING GET, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S A POSSIBILITY IT COULD GET DEVELOPED AND THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND A FIRE TRUCK CAN'T EVEN COME DOWN OR SNOW REMOVAL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
SO BARBARA, I'M LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE STREET SECTIONS.
ALL OF THEM INCLUDE TWO 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANES, SO LIKE ONE IN EACH DIRECTION.
THE, I THINK THE STATE MINIMUM IS 20 FEET FOR FIRE CLEARANCE.
AND SO ALL OF THESE INCLUDE TWO, SO 22 FEET OF ESSENTIALLY OPEN SPACE FOR A FIRETRUCK TO GO DOWN.
AND THEN SEVERAL OF THE STREETS IN THE COMMUNITY ALSO HAVE A PARKING LANE ON ONE OR BOTH SIDES MAYBE.
MAYBE WE SHOULD GET A MAP THAT REALLY SHOWS IT.
I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE YOU BUYING A TOWN HOME AND YOU CAN'T PARK OUT FRONT BECAUSE YOU GOTTA ALLOW THIS 20, UH, 20 FOOT SPACE FOR TRASH TRUCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I'M SURE, I'M HOPING THEY THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
SOME OF, SOME OF THOSE TOWNHOUSES DON'T EVEN HAVE A FRONT.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T HAVE A STREET IN THE FRONT.
YEAH, BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE CAR, RIGHT? TO GET IN THE CAR.
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DON'T YOU NEED A CAR IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? YOU NEED A CAR? COME ON.IT'S DANGEROUS OUT THERE ON A BIKE.
I DON'T WANNA BE SWEATY WHEN I GET WHERE I'M GOING.
I WANNA, I WANNA STILL BE FRESH, BUT WE, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT OR GET IT SO WE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, LEFT HOLDING THE BAG.
UM, SPEAKING OF BIKES, THE NEXT ITEM IS AROUND BIKE PARKING.
PAUSE FOR SOMETHING ABOVE THE MINIMUM.
YEAH, THIS I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DO AS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
UH, SPEAKING OF, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE SAW RELATED TO AREAS OF DISAGREEMENT THAT THEY WANNA BRING UP? OKAY, LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON TO FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS THEN.
UM, UH, SO THE FIRST ONE RELATES TO ACCESS TO LOCATION OF BUS STOPS, SHELTERS PROVIDED OTHER TRANSIT FACILITIES, BENCHES, TRASH CANS, UM, RAMADA, PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY TRANSIT SCHEDULES FOR THE AREA.
YEAH, I HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT I PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THIS IS IN MY, MY COMMENT, BUT I HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WHAT'S GONNA BE IN THERE TO, TO, TO MAKE IT EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
SO I DEFINITELY THINK THAT'S WORTH ASKING.
UM, I, I HAVE SOME THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SUGGESTED TO ME THAT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY FIT IN, BUT I THINK THAT THERE, TRANSPORTATION BICYCLE.
SO IF THERE ARE BENCHES ALONG THE BICYCLE TRAIL PATHS, UM, TO PROVIDE PLACES FOR WHEELCHAIRS OR STROLLERS LIKE, UH, A LANDING SPOT IN PERMEABLE PAVEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT NOT ONLY ABLE-BODIED PEOPLE CAN SIT DOWN AND TALK, THAT THEY CAN HAVE OTHER PEOPLE CAN SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THEM.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WAS SUGGESTED.
ANOTHER THING IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THIS SOMEHOW GET A JITNEY SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME INTERNAL TRANSPORTATION THAT IS NOT, THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A LARGE BUS OR A LARGE SOME VEHICLE, LET'S SAY.
SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I'M SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND CAN SAY MORE THAN I CAN ABOUT IT.
SO THAT'S, SO SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED ALSO, WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE THAT, UH, UH, ARE WE STILL, I, THIS, THIS WAS SUGGESTED A LONG, LONG TIME AGO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT FELL BY THE WAYSIDE, BUT THE, THE, UH, CONCEPT OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN, IF WE DECIDED NOT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ANYMORE, IS UNIVERSAL DESIGN RELATED TO ACCESSIBILITY.
YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY BILL, EVERY DWELLING COULD BE USED BY ANYONE NO MATTER WHAT HIS ABILITIES ARE.
UM, THE NEXT FOLLOW UP QUESTION RELATES TO GETTING A COPY OF, UH, TRAFFIC STUDIES.
AND A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS RELATED TO TRAFFIC.
DIDN'T WE HAVE A COPY OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY? IT WAS FROM SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
I JUST ASSUMED THEY UPDATED IT.
PARDON? UH, IT WAS FROM A WHILE AGO.
OH, THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT I SAW WAS FROM, I MEAN, MAY OR JUNE.
OH, YOU THINK THAT THEY DID ANOTHER ONE? I, I WONDER IF THEY'VE SUBMITTED, RESUBMITTED SOMETHING.
UM, AND SO I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE LIST OF THINGS.
BRIAN, THERE WASN'T, UH, DIDN'T THEY ASK, WE, UH, THEY,
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THEY WERE ASKED TO DO SO AND THEY WERE GONNA UPDATE JUST A QUESTION OF DID THEY, AND WHEN YEAH.DO YOU KNOW WHO THEY WERE ASKED BY JEREMY? WAS IT THE TOWN WE HAD? IT WAS ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD TO, OKAY.
UM, THE NEXT ONE RELATES TO RETAIL USES, UM, AND THE PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THIS IS KIND OF RELATED TO THE QUESTION ABOUT, THEY KIND OF RESPONDED BEFORE, LIKE, OH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RETAIL IS.
OF COURSE YOU DON'T HOW MANY PARKING SPACES, BUT LIKE HOW MUCH SPACE ARE THEY DEDICATING TO PARKING? AND THEN WE KIND OF BACKTRACK.
LIKE, HONESTLY, LIKE IF THEY HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW, A MEDICAL OFFICE WHICH USES A LOT OF PARKING OR GENERATES A LOT OF TRIPS, LIKE I DON'T, I'D RATHER NOT BE OVER PARKED, BUT YEAH.
IS THERE ANY, UH, GARAGE PARKING THAT WOULD BE AS, UH, THAT MAYBE THE GARAGE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE GARAGE AREA IS, UH, CO-LOCATED NEXT TO WHERE THE RETAIL WOULD BE KIND OF THING.
IS THAT IN THE PLANS? YEAH, THEY HAVE THE, THEY HAVE THE GARAGE.
THEY HAVE A GARAGE AND IT'S LOCATED, I'M THINKING NEXT TO WHERE THE RETAILER'S GONNA BE.
SO THEY'VE CONSIDERED SOME NUMBER OR, OR OR AMOUNT OF PARKING.
I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S THE ORIGINAL GARAGE FOR THE HOSPITAL, I BELIEVE, ISN'T IT? I'M NOT CERTAIN.
IS IT, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE IT'S THE ORIGINAL GARAGE FOR THE PARTNER FOR THE HOSPITAL RETAINED.
UM, LOOKING TO UNDERSTAND EXAMPLES OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE EMBLEMATIC OF REVISION.
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE IF THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY, THAT THEY ARE SORT OF BUILDING IN WITH THAT IN MIND, I LIKE, YEAH, I'M SORRY, WHAT, WHAT WAS IT? YOU JUST SAID THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HAD THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I, I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND YOU.
CARL, WHAT WERE YOU, OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, THE QUESTION IS, UH, TO UNDERSTAND BETTER EXAMPLES OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT MIGHT BE SORT OF EMBLEMATIC OF THEIR VISION FOR THIS ONE.
WELL THE ONE, THE ONE THAT THEY KEEP POINT POINTING AT, POINTING TO IS, UM,
AND THEY HAD SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE, HMM.
THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL UP THERE TO LOOK AT IT.
AND THEY, THEY SAY NOW THAT IT WAS, IT WAS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT NEVER COULD GET A, THE SCHEDULING.
I SEE NO REASON WHY THE PLANNING BOARD COULDN'T ASK FOR THAT.
ACTUALLY THAT'S A, I'M REALLY GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT FIELD TRIP.
AM I RIGHT? THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE LAST MONTH, DIDN'T CHUCK MENTION THAT, BUT LIKE, HE'D LIKE TO PLAN A TIME FOR US TO GO WITH THEM AND, AND WALK AROUND THE WALTER REED DEVELOPMENT.
I COULD HAVE SWORN I HEARD HIM SAY THAT.
UM, WAS HE TALKING ABOUT WALTER REED OR, SORRY, I THOUGHT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, HAVING US WALK AROUND THIS, THE HOSPITAL HILL SITE.
I, I'VE BEEN UP TO THE WALTER REED SITE AND IT'S PRETTY WELL LAID, PRETTY NICE UP THERE.
YOU KNOW, AND, UH, I USED TO LIVE UP THERE.
THAT'S WHERE I GREW UP, UP THERE.
AND, UH, UH, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT I KNOW ARE STILL LIVING THERE.
THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TOO MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT.
WELL, IT COULDN'T HURT TO ASK.
I MEAN, IF THEY, IF THAT IS WHAT HE HAS IN MIND, MAYBE IT IS WORTH, YOU KNOW, GOING AND TAKING A LOOK OR AT LEAST HAVING THEM BRING PICTURES AND SHARE SORT OF HOW THAT RELATES DECISION THAT THEY HAVE FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS, UH, LET'S SEE, WHO'S, WHOSE QUESTION IS THIS ONE? EXAMPLES OF COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS THAT WORK WELL, THOSE THAT DON'T.
YOU MEAN IN HOA? NO, THEY CALL THEM COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
SO I THINK WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
THEY'RE REFERRING TO ALL THIS STUFF THAT WITH, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW, IS THERE, COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION TO ME WOULD BE A LARGER, THAT'S NOT AN HOA, SO A SPECIFIC PIECE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.
USUALLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN HOA FOR DIFFERENT PLACES OR YOU'LL HAVE A, YOU'LL HAVE A CONDO BOARD OR YOU'LL HAVE A, RIGHT.
AND SO I THINK WE JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT, OR IS THIS SOMETHING NEW? IS THIS SOMETHING ELSE TO THINKING ABOUT FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT? SO THERE'S ONE ASSOCIATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
COULD WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WHAT, WHAT'S WORKED? WHAT ARE EXAMPLES OF THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE
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NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.I WOULD JUST, I DON'T, I'M JUST, I'M IGNORANT ON THAT.
BECAUSE THEY DO MENTION IN SORT OF AN HOA FOR EACH BUILDING.
BUT THEY ALSO FOR EACH
AND, AND THEN I, I ASKED, UM, I ASKED THE PLANNING, THE COUNTY PLANNING BOARD ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS IS A TOWN
YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SOMETHING THAT COMES BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND THE TOWN
I JUST THINK IT'S A SILLY IDEA WHERE WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE, SPECIFICALLY IF WE, IF WE ARE DOING THE ANNEXATION, THAT PROPERTY WILL, ALL THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE IN CH RIGHT.
THOSE PROPERTIES WILL BE IN CH UM, AND CHEVROLET SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THEIR PARKS AND CHEVROLET SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE PUBLIC STREETS AND, AND THEY SHOULD VOTE FOR THEIR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I THINK A LOT OF THINGS HINGE ON THIS ANNEXATION, RIGHT? THERE ARE OPINIONS ABOUT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS, ABOUT THROUGH STREETS, ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, IF THEY'RE NOT A PART OF CH AND WE THEN WE WANT THESE THINGS IN PLACE, MAYBE WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THAT CONNECTION OR WE, AND, AND WE DO WANT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT STANDARDS ARE UPHELD.
BUT IF THEY ARE A PART OF CHEVROLET, THEN THEY COME IN TO OUR STANDARDS WE'VE ALREADY SET AND THAT WE SET AS A TOWN AND REVIEW AS A TOWN FROM TIME TO TIME.
SO THAT ANNEXATION IS REALLY, UM, A KEY POINT THAT WE JUST WON'T KNOW ABOUT YET.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE IDEAS FOR WITH ANNEXATION OR WITHOUT ANNEXATION.
YEAH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
AND EXCUSE ME, IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES AND PLANNING TO ADMINISTER, UM, AN EXPANSION OF THIS SIZE.
UM, 'CAUSE WITH, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU GROW, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO MANAGE IT.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAKE MORE MONEY, BUT IT MAY NOT BE, IT, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE END RESULT THAT WE WANT.
AND, UM, THE WHOLE NOTION OF IF THEY'RE PART OF C THERE'S NO NEED FOR A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T REALLY, I MEAN, WE HAVE SUCH A SMALL, UM, TOWN, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE INCREASED JUST FOR THE TOWN OF CH MUCH LESS, YOU KNOW, BRAND NEW FOLKS.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED AN ASSOCIATION OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
AND IF YOU DO HAVE ONE AND IT'S SEPARATED OUT, I THINK IT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
I MEAN, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO SPLIT THE TAXATION AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A MANAGEMENT AND A BOARD AND, BUT THOSE WOULD ALL BE ALL FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE HOMEOWNER, I MEAN, THAT ARE OWNED PROPERTIES, I WOULD IMAGINE.
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LOOKING AT THE TIME, AND I'M NOTING THAT WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT FIVE MORE MINUTES LEFT.AND I JUST WANNA, THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, WRAP THROUGH THE REST OF THIS.
UM, SO, UH, I'M SEEING STUFF HERE, QUESTIONS AROUND LIGHTING DESIGN QUESTIONS AROUND, UM, LIKE BEST PRACTICES FROM OTHER, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, DOWN BELOW THERE'S INFORMATION AROUND, UM, UH, THE, OH MY GOD, SO MUCH HERE.
THE, THE DEPTH, UH, BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO THE FREEWAYS MM-HMM.
AND, UM, UH, WAYS TO ENCOURAGE TRANSIT, UM, TRAFFIC CALL EFFORTS.
A LOT OF THIS IS STUFF THAT WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THAT I THINK WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST ADDING SOME, HEY, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW UP ON THIS HERE.
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE TRASH CANS.
IS THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT ANYONE IS, THAT'S GIVING ANYONE CONCERN THAT WE SHOULD, UH, DISCUSS? I'M GLAD THAT THE, WE'RE FOLLOWING UP ON THE, UM, TRASH CAN ITEM.
WHERE ARE THOSE GOING TO BE PLACED? I'M ALSO CURIOUS, WE, I DON'T THINK WE'VE ASKED THEM YET.
UM, THIS IS DETAILED, BUT ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE ANIMAL WASTE, DISPO DISPOSAL STATIONS? LIKE IT'S JUST AN IDEA OF HOW ARE THEY HANDLING THEIR WASTE BOTH FOR WHAT COMES OUTTA THE
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CONDOS AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THIS TO BESORRY, THAT SOUNDED STRANGE, BUT WE WANT THIS TO BE A NICE AND ATTRACTIVE, UH, PLACE.
SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE TRASH IS BEING HANDLED.
UM, I JUST, UH, COULD SAY SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE HAS ALSO IT RECOMMENDATION ABOUT, UM, DARK SKY, UH, COMPLIANT LIGHTING.
AND SO I THINK YOU HAVE THE SAME, AND IT TURNS OUT THAT IN FACT, THAT THE COUNTY REQUIRES FULL DOWNWARD LIGHTING.
I FORGOT THE, THE, THE, THE TERMINOLOGY, BUT IT, IT, IT TOOK ME A WHILE, BUT I FOUND OUT THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.
SO, UM, I GUESS WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY, THEY FULFILL THAT REQUIREMENT, SO.
SO, UH, MY REQUEST IS SOMETIME OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THIS AND YOU WANNA JUST SORT OF GO THROUGH AND ADD ANY QUESTIONS OR YOU CAN SEND 'EM TO EVERYBODY.
BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN FINALIZE THIS LIST IN THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.
WHEN WE'RE ASSUMING THIS MEETING'S IS GONNA HAPPEN ON THE 26TH, I WILL, BRIAN AND I WILL GET TOGETHER WITH THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AND TRY TO FINALIZE THE AGENDA.
I'LL MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN THE COMING DAYS WHETHER THAT MEETING'S HAPPENING AND WHAT THE AGENDA LOOKS LIKE.
UM, DO WE, SO WE HAVE A MEETING, I MEAN, GENERALLY OUR, OUR FEBRUARY MEETING WOULD BE ON THE 11TH.
UH, DO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT OR DO WE WANNA SAY THAT THIS MEETING IN A FEW WEEKS WILL, WILL BE OUR DEFACTO FEBRUARY MEETING? OR SHOULD WE SEE HOW
SO LET'S SEE HOW THE 26TH GOES.
ASSUMING THAT HAPPENS, AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN CHAT TO SEE WHETHER WE NEED TO MEET TO DO SOME FOLLOW UP IN FEBRUARY.
HEY, CARLO, I JUST HAVE ONE THING.
'CAUSE WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH MY QUESTIONS AND THEN SEEING THE THING TONIGHT, THERE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS THAT WE SHOULD EXPECT THEM TO PROVIDE US FOR AND THING THEY CAN DEFINITELY SHARE WHAT THEIR VISION IS, WHAT THEY'RE BASING THEIR ESTIMATES OFF OF, WHERE THEY'RE BASING THEIR PRACTICES OFF OF.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THERE.
AND I'M THINKING AND SPEAKING FOR ME PERSONALLY AND THINGS I SEE, LIKE SOME OF THAT STUFF WE NEED TO DO OUR OWN RESEARCH ON, OR WE NEED TO FIND OUT ABOUT, AND WE CAN'T EXPECT THEM TO PROVIDE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE THEIR PERSPECTIVE OR THEIR PIECE OF IT MM-HMM
BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THERE LIKE, OH, WE MAYBE NEED TO LIKE, FIND OUT.
WE NEED TO EDUCATE OURSELVES ON THAT.
AND SO MAYBE WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING REALLY GRABS YOU OR YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC OR THIS ISSUE, WE COULD MAKE A LIST AND WE COULD EACH TAKE PIECES THAT WE, WE WANT TO GET, YOU KNOW, GET OURSELVES AND THEN WE COULD EDUCATE EACH OTHER ON THESE TO HELP US.
SO, UH, CHUCK IS THINKING THAT, THAT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO HAVING THIS, UM, ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THE PPS AND ALL THAT, UH, CONNECTED STUFF.
AND THEN WHEN THE COUNTY SETS A HEARING DATE, WE'VE GOT THE 30, 30 DAYS
I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK ALONG I'M DOING A CHARIOT REAL.
ALONG THOSE LINES, JEREMY, NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO SORT OF DIVIDE AND CONQUER WITH THE RESEARCH, BUT ALSO WITH THE WRITING, I THINK THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE DIFFERENT PIECES OF THIS THAT THEY JUST WANNA WRITE UP COMMENTS ON.
SO IT'S GOOD TO, TO GET STARTED ON THAT.
UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS WILL BE MOST OF OUR ENERGY FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MEETINGS.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE SEES COMING DOWN THE PIKE THAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE AGENDIZE SOMETIME SOON? UM, THIS IS BRIAN.
UM, BEFORE THIS MEETING, I ATTENDED THE PRE-APPLICATION COMMUNITY MEETING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AT 58 0 1 ANNAPOLIS ROAD, WHICH IS IN CHEVROLET, BUT IT'S LIKE BEHIND THAT WYNDHAM HOTEL.
BUILDING IT, IT LIKE FRONTS ONTO ANNAPOLIS ROAD.
UM, THERE'S A, IT'S SQUEEZED KIND OF BETWEEN THE HOTEL, EXISTING HOUSES AND THE GAS STATION, BUT IT'S IN, UM, I, I WAS KIND OF AT THE VERY END, I LIKE FIRED OFF A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AT THEM.
I THINK THEY MAY HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED WITH ME, BUT, UM, IT'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING INTO CH SO WE SHOULD KEEP IT ON OUR RADAR.
UM, AND THEY ALSO HAVEN'T YET SUBMITTED THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAN OF SUBDIVISION, OR HAVEN'T FORMALLY ACCEPTED.
AT WHAT, AT WHAT POINT IS IT VALUABLE? UH, LIKE WOULD YOU SHARE
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WHAT YOU KNOW WITH US OR SHOULD WE BE REACHING OUT TO THE DEVELOPER DIRECTLY TO SEE IF THEY WANNA, I, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY OF APPROACHING? I CAN, I CAN SHARE WHAT I KNOW.UM, BUT WE'LL, WE CAN JUST SAY I, ONCE THEY SUBMIT THEIR, UH, REPORT, UM, THEN WE SHOULD INCLUDE IT ON THAT FOLLOWING AGENDA.
SO THAT WE CAN GIVE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR COUNCIL, BUT WE NEED TO WITHIN A MONTH.
THEY HAVE PROMISED THEY HAVE PROMISED TO SEND US, BRIAN, MYSELF, AND WHOEVER WAS THERE, UM, UH, BASICALLY WHAT, WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH TODAY, INCLUDING THE, THE ANSWER QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
UM, YEAH, EVERYBODY WILL SEE THAT.
THANKS EVERYONE FOR THANK YOU.
PRODUCTIVE MEETING AND THANK YOU, UH, VISITORS FOR COMING AND JOINING US, AND, UH, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH SOON.