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          OH, I DO. 
          [Work Session on February 26, 2026.]
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          UH, WELCOME TO THE REGULAR FEBRUARY 20, 26 WORK SESSION FOR THE TOWN OF CH. 
          I'M MAYOR MICAH WATSON. 
          I KNOW THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR IS HERE. 
          THE TOWN CLERK IS HERE, THE POLICE CHIEF IS HERE. 
          THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IS ALSO HERE, AND THE DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF IS ALSO HERE, I SHOULD SAY. 
          AND THE DEPUTY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. 
          UH, I WILL NOW CALL THE ROLE FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM WARD ONE, PRESENT, WARD TWO, PRESENT WARD THREE. 
          PRESENT, WARD FOUR, PRESENT WARD FIVE. 
          HERE, WARD SIX PRESENT, SEEING ALL SEVEN ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR THE TOWN OF CH PRESIDENT. 
          A QUORUM SUFFICIENT TO CONDUCT BUSINESSES HERE. 
          THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS WILL BE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE COUNSEL. 
          THE NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. 
          THE AGENDA CURRENTLY HAS 13 ITEMS ON IT, INCLUDING ADJOURNMENT. 
          ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? HEARING NONE. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PUBLISHED? MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PUBLISHED. 
          SECOND. 
          THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. 
          APPROVE THE AGENDA. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION PASSES. 
          SIX ZERO. 
          THE AGENDA IS APPROVED. 
          THE NEXT ITEM IS GRANT REQUEST. 
          WE HAVE THREE ON THE AGENDA. 
          MR. GALLOWAY, DO YOU, UH, WANNA WALK US THROUGH EACH OF THESE, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO THE APPLICANT'S? IF WE COULD TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO THE APPLICANT'S FIRST, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CH VILLAGE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A ONE MINUTE SYNOPSIS OF THEIR APPLICATION? IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CH WOMEN'S CLUB WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO SO? THERE IS, I'M, I'M HERE FOR THE CH VILLAGE GRANT REQUEST. 
          OKAY. 
          YOUR NAME AND YOUR WARD. 
          AND GO AHEAD. 
          MY NAME IS RUDY GOLLICK. 
          I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF CH VILLAGE. 
          I'M A MEMBER OF WARD TWO, AND I'M HERE JUST TO SUPPORT OUR GRANT REQUEST FOR MONEY TO FUND A ACCESSIBLE MINI BUS TO TRANSPORT, UH, 14 TO 18 OF OUR VILLAGE MEMBERS AND OTHER CHEVROLET RESIDENTS ON A FIELD TRIP. 
          AS YOU KNOW, VILLAGE PROVIDES SERVICES TO, UH, OUR MEMBERS AND PEOPLE AGING IN PLACE. 
          OUR MOTTO IS AGING IN MOTION, AND WE LIKE TO GET OUR MEMBERS OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND, UH, ONE WAY TO DO THIS IS TO GET THEM TO TOGETHER TO VISIT A MUSEUM OR A PARK. 
          AND, UH, THE BEAUTY OF AN ACCESSIBLE VAN IS WE HAVE LESS FEAR OF PEOPLE FALLING. 
          PEOPLE WHO USE WALKERS, UH, WE CAN DROP SOMEONE OFF AT THE DOOR AND PICK THEM UP. 
          SO IT ELIMINATES A LOT OF WALKING FROM PARKING LOTS TO THE VENUE. 
          AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT, UH, MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS OF CH HAVE TIME GOING AND COMING TO SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCES, MEET EACH OTHER. 
          WE FIND THAT SOME OF OUR VILLAGE MEMBERS DON'T REALLY KNOW OTHER MEMBERS, AND SO WE BROADEN THEIR SOCIAL CIRCLE, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE SHARE EXPERIENCE. 
          AND, UH, WE DID THIS, UH, SEVERAL TIMES AND THE LAST TIME WE DID IT, ONE OF THE MEMBERS SAID, WOW, THIS WAS GREAT. 
          IT REMINDED ME OF MY HIGH SCHOOL FIELD TRIPS. 
          SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO FIGHT LONELINESS AND ISOLATION AND GET OUR FOLKS OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR AN EDUCATIONAL AND A SOCIAL EXPERIENCE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. GICK. 
          COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GICK OR THE VILLAGE? THIS IS DAVID TANZI. 
          UH, WARD FOUR. 
          I SEE YOU, YOU HAVE A SORT OF BROAD RANGE OF DATES, SO A SPRING TRIP IT SEEMS. UM, WHAT IS THIS A TRIP TO? JUST SO I CAN VISUALIZE WHAT IT MIGHT BE? WELL, WE, WE HAVE SEVERAL POSSIBILITIES. 
          ONE IS BROOKSIDE GARDENS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY. 
          UH, THE OTHER IS A MUSEUM DOWNTOWN. 
          UH, AN EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE. 
          I HESITATED TO 
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PUT TIMES IN UNTIL OUR GRANT WAS APPROVED. 
          WE REALIZED WE HAVE TO EXPEND THE FUNDS BY JUNE 30TH. 
          SO SOMETIME BETWEEN MARCH AND JUNE 30TH WE'LL BE MAKING THE TRIP. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE WOMEN'S CLUB AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO ALL OF THEM. 
          IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CH WOMEN'S CLUB? THE OLDEST ORGANIZATION IN THE TOWN OF CH? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CH COMMUNITY MARKET? OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          UH, MR. GALLOWAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS ON THESE THREE? YES. 
          UM, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CHEVROLET VILLAGE. 
          I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CHEVROLET COMMUNITY MARKET AS THIS IS A GRANT THAT THEY APPLY FOR ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, UH, TO ASSIST WITH PROGRAMMING AND OUTREACH. 
          UH, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL HISTORICALLY HAVE, UH, SUPPORTED THIS, UH, GRANT ACQUISITION AGREEMENT. 
          UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE REQUEST FROM THE WOMEN'S CLUB, I WOULD ASK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL IF WE CAN KICK THAT TO, UH, THE TOWN MEETING. 
          THERE ARE JUST SOME QUESTIONS THAT I HAVEN'T ANSWERED THAT I NEED TO, UM, HAVE ANSWERED BEFORE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. 
          WE WILL PUT ALL THREE OF THEM TENTATIVELY ON THE MARCH TOWN MEETING AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. 
          UH, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS ARE IN GOOD STANDING WITH THEIR PREVIOUS GRANTS? I CAN. 
          ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS ARE IN GOOD STANDING FROM PREVIOUS AWARDS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER FRY, UH, JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, I, I SEE A TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE REQUEST FOR CHEVROLET VILLAGE. 
          I DON'T SEE A TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE WOMEN'S CLUB OR FOR THE COMMUNITY MARKET. 
          ARE THOSE JUST FOR 2000 EACH? SO FOR THE COMMUNITY MARKET, HISTORICALLY WE HAVE GIVEN THEM $2,000. 
          UM, SO I AM GOING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT, UH, THEY'RE MAKING THE REQUEST. 
          THEY HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT, AND I'M GOING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT, UH, THEY'RE MAKING THE SAME REQUESTS AS THEY HAVE IN YEARS PRIOR. 
          AND THAT WILL BE FOR THE $2,000 AS IT RELATES TO THE CHEVROLET VILLAGE. 
          I SEE THAT, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE TOTAL THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED IS $1,125. 
          UM, AND THAT IS WHAT I WOULD MAKE THE, UH, PROPOSAL FOR. 
          I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER AMOUNT, UH, FOR THE WOMEN'S CLUB RIGHT NOW. 
          I DO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE HERE FOR WHAT THEY'VE SPENT IN THE PAST ON SOMETHING. 
          UM, HOWEVER, I NEED MORE CLARITY BEFORE I CAN PROVIDE AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION. 
          WE ALWAYS DO. 
          THEY SPECIFY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LEE, YOU OKAY? CA VICE MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT IN THIS LINE ITEM BEFORE THESE GRANTS, WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR GRANTS AND THEY'VE APPLIED FOR BOTH AT THE MAX OF $2,000 EACH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'VE USED $4,000, UM, AND GRANT MONEY FROM THAT MINE ITEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, LET'S PUT THIS COUNCIL MEMBER LEG. 
          I'M SORRY, JUST SO FOR CLARITY, YOU ARE ONLY RECOMMENDING THAT WE VOTE ON THE TWO AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THE WOMEN IN THE CLUB TONIGHT, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WELL, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANY TONIGHT. 
          OH, YES. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO PUT ALL THREE TENTATIVELY ON THE TOWN MEETING AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. 
          WE WILL NOT PUT THEM IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          WE WILL PUT THEM AS AN AGENDA ITEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THEM, HOPEFULLY QUICKLY, BUT NOT CONSENT AGENDA QUICKLY. 
          GREAT. 
          SOUND GOOD? SOUNDS GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ONTO ITEM FIVE, UH, WHICH IS THE CHARTER AMENDMENT REVIEW. 
          THIS, UH, COMES UH, FROM THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD OF ELECTION SUPERVISORS. 
          I SAW SEVERAL SUPERVISORS JOINING US THIS EVENING. 
          UH, SO I'M 
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GONNA INVITE MR. DELOACH OR OUR SUPERVISORS TO BRIEF ON THIS ITEM IF YOU WOULD LIKE. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING A READING TONIGHT. 
          NO, WE WOULDN'T DO THAT TONIGHT. 
          NO. 
          UH, MR. DELO WILL BE A LITTLE DELAYED THIS EVENING IN GETTING ON BECAUSE OF A, ANOTHER, UH, MEETING. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          MADAM CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT IT? WHERE'D YOU LET GO? RIGHT HERE NEXT TO MR. CARD, THIS BUILDING. 
          . 
          WELCOME. 
          BEAUTIFUL. 
          UH, SO YOU WANTED ME TO SUMMARIZE THE GIST OF, AND YOU ARE, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M ROBIN KAY FROM THE BOARD OF ELECTION SUPERVISORS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          WHY, WHY DO WE NEED TO AMEND THE CHARTER FOR THIS? UH, SO, UH, WE HAD BROUGHT THIS TOPIC UP PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE, UM, IN THE PRE IN THE LAST ELECTION IN 2025, UM, UH, KIND OF A LOOPHOLE WAS EXPOSED THAT, UM, ONE COULD, IN AN ELECTION WHERE WE HAVE BOTH MAYORAL AND COUNCIL, UH, UP FOR ELECTION, A PERSON COULD POTENTIALLY, UH, APPLY TO BE A CANDIDATE IN ONE OFFICE AND THEN LATER APPLY TO BE A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE FOR ANOTHER OFFICE. 
          AND WE DID NOT HAVE, UM, ANY CODE SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITING THIS. 
          UM, SO, UH, A DRAFT WAS, WAS JUST DRAWN UP BY THE ATTORNEY, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THIS WEEK. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK ON IT, BUT THAT IS BASICALLY THE GIST. 
          ALSO, ALONG THE SAME LINES, UH, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING WITHOUT THIS AMENDMENT. 
          YOU COULD ALSO APPLY TO BE A RIGHT IN CANDIDATE FOR BOTH OFFICES AS WELL. 
          SO WE HAD LIKE TWO SCENARIOS THAT WE NEEDED TO PLUG UP. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LANGUAGE WHICH WE SHOULD TAKE BACK TO MR. DELOACH OR FOR THE SUPERVISORS? IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          I THINK SO, YES MA'AM. 
          WE HAVE SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT THE LANGUAGE. 
          UM, YES. 
          OH, YOU OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD PLEASE. 
          I WAS, I WAS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, UH, FOR THE, WELL, I GUESS FOR THE, IN THE RESOLUTION ITSELF, UM, THERE'S KIND OF A DOUBLE NEGATIVE YES. 
          IN THE SECOND. 
          WHEREAS, UM, IT STATES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE DETERMINED THAT A PROHIBITION AGAINST A CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR THE OFFICE OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE SAME ELECTION SHOULD BE PROHIBITED. 
          HMM. 
          CAN'T PROHIBIT PROHIBITIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          SO WE WERE THINKING WE COULD STRIKE THAT FIRST, UM, A PROHIBITION AGAINST, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE WILL, UH, WE WILL MAKE THAT UPDATE. 
          UH, SO IN THE AMENDMENT ITSELF, UM, UH, JUST LIKE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT LANGUAGE, UM, BECAUSE IT STATES AN APPLICATION FOR WRITE AND CANDIDACY FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER FOR AN OFFICIAL CANDIDATE IN THE SAME ELECTION SHALL BE NULL AND VOID. 
          UM, SO I GUESS THE WORD AND WAS KIND OF TRIPPING US UP A LITTLE BIT, UH, THAT IS, IT'S A KIND OF AN EITHER OR AN APPLICATION FOR WRITING CANDIDACY FOR EITHER MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER FOR AN OFFICIAL CANDIDATE. 
          'CAUSE THAT PERSON IS ALREADY A CANDIDATE FOR ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          UM, SO THIS, THIS BASICALLY MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THEY'RE APPLYING FOR RIGHT IN CANDIDACY FOR BOTH BECAUSE OF THE WORD AND MM-HMM . 
          FOUR FOR COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND IN THE NEXT SENTENCE, LIKEWISE, ANY APPLICATION FOR RIGHT AND CANDIDACY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL FOR THE OFFICE OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE SAME ELECTION SHALL BE NULL AND VOID FOR BOTH OFFICES. 
          UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS MISSPELLED IN THAT SENTENCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF WE WANT THE EXTRA, YOU KNOW, ADJECTIVE, I WAS JUST SAYING IT'S FOR BOTH. 
          IF YOU'RE APPLYING FOR BOTH MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER AND AS A WRITE-IN TO CON TO KIND OF COUNTERBALANCE THE EITHER OR OF THE OTHER SCENARIO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF PERSNICKETY, BUT, UM, REALLY THE ONLY MAJOR ISSUES WAS THE WORD AND IN THAT PREVIOUS SENTENCE. 
          AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER BEING MISSPELLED IN THE NEXT ONE. 
          THANK YOU YEP. 
          FOR CATCHING THOSE. 
          WE WILL, UH, REPORT THOSE BACK TO THE DRAFTER COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, I WAS ALSO CONFUSED WHEN I READ THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE FIRST SENTENCE IS THE SENTENCE WE NEED, ISN'T IT? UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES MAY AN INDIVIDUAL BE A CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE SAME ELECTION. 
          I MEAN, CAN'T THAT BE YES. 
          WHETHER BY WRITE IN OR, YOU KNOW, STANDARD APPLICATION. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE EXTRA SENTENCES THAT ARE BEFUDDLING. 
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WELL, I THINK IT'S DESIGNED TO CLARIFY WHICH OF YOUR APPLICATIONS WOULD BE NULLIFIED. 
          WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS CONFUSED BY WHEN I READ IT. 
          SO I THINK IT'S SAYING THAT YOUR RIGHT IN CANDIDACY WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY NULLIFIED. 
          YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS? I, I WOULD AGREE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I WOULD AGREE WITH, WITH DAVID, I THINK IF WE START, IF WE STOPPED AT THAT FIRST SENTENCE YEAH. 
          THAT SATISFIES WHAT WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING AT. 
          AND MAYBE YOU ADD SOMETHING THAT WHICHEVER ONE WAS FILED FIRST IS, IS THE ONE YOU GET. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SIMPLER LANGUAGE IN THAT. 
          'CAUSE I READ IT AND I SAID, WAIT, SO THEN BOTH ARE NULL AND VOID. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT NOW I CAN'T RUN FOR ANYTHING. 
          AND THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU INTENDED, RIGHT? YEAH, SUPERVISOR. 
          NO, NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          LIKE WE, WE ALSO HAD TO READ THIS SEVERAL TIMES TO KIND OF DIGEST IT AND, UM, IT'S TRUE. 
          YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SIMPLIFY IT DOWN TO THE ONE SENTENCE. 
          WE JUST WANTED TO, UH, ASSURE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN, BECAUSE IN THE PREVIOUS SECTION IT'S TALKING ABOUT CANDIDATES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO 18 C 18.2 SAYS CANDIDATES AND IT DEFINES A CANDIDATE WITH THE FOLLOWING POINTS. 
          AND THAT SPECIFICALLY DEFINES A CANDIDATE WHO APPLIES BEFORE THE DEADLINE WHO IS ON THE BALLOT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST BY SAYING, UH, NO CANDIDATE CAN RUN FOR TWO OFFICES IN THE PREVIOUS SECTION, SINCE WE'RE DEFINING A CANDIDATE IN ONE WAY, WE WANNA MAKE THE DISTINCTION THAT A RIGHT IN CANDIDATE IS A DISTINCT, UH, DIFFERENCE AND THAT YOU CAN'T BE A CANDIDATE AND ALSO A RIGHT IN CANDIDATE. 
          BUT I, I THINK THEN YOU, WE CAN MAKE THAT CLEAR MM-HMM . 
          THAT IT'S, IF, IF AT THAT POINT IT IS ESTABLISHED THAT CANDIDATE MEANS YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ALREADY, I MEAN, I GUESS THE, THE WORRY IS THE OPPOSITE TO ME IS THAT SOMEONE DOES A WRITE IN THEN SAYS, ACTUALLY LET ME NOW DO A, A REGULAR ONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE DEADLINES ARE. 
          IF YOU COULD DO THAT, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 
          YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE A CANDIDATE UP TO A CERTAIN POINT 45 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION DEADLINE. 
          SO YOU CAN'T WRITING BEFORE THAT DEADLINE. 
          NO. 
          WRITE IN IT COMES AFTER THAT. 
          GOOD. 
          WELL THEN THAT MAKES IT EASIER. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES MAY AN INDIVIDUAL BE A CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN THE SAME ELECTION. 
          UM, I THINK EITHER AS AN OFFICIAL CANDIDATE OR AS WRITE-IN OR AS WRITE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN THAT MIGHT, I THINK THERE, BOIL IT DOWN A WAY TO SIMPLIFY THAT SO THAT IT, IT IT'S CLEAR THAT'S CATCHING THE WRITE-INS. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT SOUNDS AWESOME. 
          UH, ANY COUNSEL, UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER COMMENTS, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS ITEM? SORRY MADAM CHAIR. 
          I THINK YOU HAVE TO RELINQUISH YOUR CHAIR , BUT THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU TO THE OTHER SUPERVISORS FOR THIS NEED THAT MESSAGE. 
          SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOPEFULLY EVERYONE BE FEEDBACK. 
          UH, SO, UH, YOUR NAME, YOUR WARD IN THREE MINUTES, PLEASE. 
          SURE THING. 
          I'M SURE IT'LL BE LESS THAN THREE MINUTES. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          JOYCE JONES, WARD TWO. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR BECAUSE I, I WAS THERE FOR THE LAST ELECTION AND I'VE BEEN AT SOME OF THE SUB SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS WHEN SHE'S TALKED ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THEY HAD AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THEY'VE PUT INTO CHANGING THIS. 
          AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I'M NOT A LEGAL PERSON. 
          MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING. 
          WHO, WHO DRAFTED THIS? WAS IT OUR ATTORNEY? WOW. 
          I'M KIND OF SURPRISED AT THAT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT ON THE CHARTER AMENDMENT DRAFT? OH, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, YOUR NAME, YOUR WARD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          SURE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. 
          I GUESS IT'S EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'M ELAINE JOHNSON, A RESIDENT OF WARD SIX. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION ON SECTION C 18.2 UNDER CANDIDATES. 
          DOES THIS APPLY, UH, HOW ARE WE DEFINING CANDIDATES THERE? IS IT INCLUDING WRITING INDIVIDUALS? BECAUSE AS IT'S READING HERE, I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT IF A NOT FEWER THAN 45 DAYS OF THE ELECTION, IF A FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE STATEMENT IS NOT FILED WITH THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS SUPERVISORS, DOES THAT PRECLUDE SOMEONE FROM WRITING IN? 'CAUSE THIS SAYS IT PRECLUDES SOMEONE FROM FILING AS AN OFFICIAL CANDIDATE. 
          OF COURSE, YOU CAN WRITE IN ANY WAY YOU WANT AT AT ANY POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, NO VOTER IS EVER PREVENTED FROM WRITING IN ANYONE THEY WANT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK EVEN SOMEONE WHO'S NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE OFFICE, LIKE THEY HAVEN'T LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH. 
          UH, 
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THEY'RE NOT A US CITIZEN, THEY'RE NOT ALIVE. 
          YOU CAN WRITE IN ANYONE YOU WANT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          JUST WANTED THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MADAM CHAIR, DID YOU HAVE, DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YES. 
          SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I GUESS I JUST, I, I SENSE THE CONFUSION AROUND THIS. 
          UM, AND I GUESS I ALSO WANNA RESCIND, THE WORD I USED WAS OFFICIAL CANDIDATE. 
          SO, UH, LET ME, LET ME CHANGE THE LANGUAGE ON THAT. 
          CERTIFIED CANDIDATES ARE THOSE WHO APPLY PRIOR TO THE 45 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION CERTIFIED WRITE-IN CANDIDATES APPLY FOR CANDIDACY AFTER THAT DEADLINE. 
          UM, SO EVERYBODY'S OFFICIAL  AND I DIDN'T WANNA, I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO BE MISTAKEN, BUT THAT C 18 TWO CANDIDATES, BY VIRTUE OF DESCRIBING THE 45 DAY DEADLINE, THAT SECTION SPECIFICALLY APPLIES TO CERTIFIED CANDIDATES AND NOT CERTIFIED WRITE-IN. 
          SO, UH, HENCE THE NEED FOR THIS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CERTIFIED WAS THE WORD I SHOULD HAVE USED AS WELL. 
          UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS DRAFT? COUNSEL? ANYTHING FURTHER? SEEING NONE, UH, WE WILL PUT, UH, WE WILL MAKE THE CHANGES AND PUT THIS ON THE MARCH TOWN MEETING AGENDA FOR A FIRST READER. 
          THIS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE THREE READER PROCESS AND TAKE, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING LIKE FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS TO BECOME LAW, UH, OR TO BECOME PART OF THE CHARTER, UM, WHICH WE HAVE AMPLE TIME TO DO. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE BOARD OF ELECTION SUPERVISORS, UH, FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. 
          UH, AND UM, AGAIN, WE WILL NOT BE ADOPTING THIS NEXT MONTH. 
          WE WILL JUST BE DOING THE FIRST READER OF, UH, THE REVISED TEXT. 
          OKAY, COUNSEL, UH, OUR AGENDA THAT WE APPROVE THIS EVENING DOES NOT INCLUDE THE KELLER UPDATE. 
          UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNSEL TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO CREATE A, UH, FIVE A IN THE AGENDA FOR A KELLER CONSTRUCTION UPDATE. 
          SO MOVED. 
          THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HICK TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO ADD A FIVE A KELLER CONSTRUCTION UPDATE. 
          IT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GARCE. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION PASSES SIX. 
          OH. 
          WE ARE NOW AT ITEM FIVE, A KELLER CONSTRUCTION UPDATE. 
          UH, MR. BRAMAN OR MR. GALLOWAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER ANY INTRODUCTORY REMARKS OR GO DIRECTLY TO THE KELLER REPRESENTATIVE? I BELIEVE MR. BEN FRY IS ONLINE. 
          UM, I BELIEVE HE CAN JUMP IN, BUT HE'S JUST GOING TO REVIEW THE SCHEDULE AND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH GETTING THIS TO THE OPENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. FRY, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, YEAH, SO, UH, FROM OUR LAST MEETING, WE INDICATED, UH, THE FULL TURNOVER OF THE WHOLE FACILITY. 
          WE ARE STILL AIMING FOR THE, UM, FIRST OR SECOND WEEK OF MAY. 
          UH, WE DID PUT TOGETHER A SCHEDULE LATE LAST WEEK. 
          UH, THAT SHOWS US COMPLETING THE PUNCH LIST IN THE AREA THAT INCLUDES THE OFFICE AND THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH YOU GUYS ARE CURRENTLY, UM, USING TONIGHT, UH, TO BE TURNED OVER AND READY FOR MOVE IN BY MARCH 16TH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, BEFORE WE GO TO, UH, MS. BARNHART, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE IN AFTER THE MIDDLE OF MARCH? THAT IS CORRECT, MR. BRA. 
          THANK YOU MR. BRAMAN. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, INTO THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF IT. 
          SO WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO BE MOVING INTO THE HIGH BAY AREAS, WHICH ARE THE GARAGES AND STORAGE ROOMS OR THE COVERED PARKING LOT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. 
          LET'S SAY THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES IN A HYBRID INTO THE LOCKER ROOMS. MM-HMM . 
          SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE THE RESTROOMS, THE LOCKER ROOMS, AND THE OFFICES? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S ONLY THREE WEEKS FROM NOW, SO, YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, I MEAN, THAT FEELS CLOSE ENOUGH FOR US TO HOLD KELLER TO FEET TO THE FIRE ON THAT MOVE IN. 
          SO PLEASE KEEP US POSTED. 
          UM, AND, UH, WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO NOT SEE THAT DATE SLIP. 
          UH, THE MAY DATE THEN WOULD BE A FULL TURN, FULL HANDOVER. 
          IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD FOR THE BUILDING? UH, YES, SIR, THAT IS THE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S ALL THE REST OF THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR. 
          AND, UH, SHOULD BE CONCERNS WITH THE CONCRETE, THE FIELDS, EVERYTHING. 
          IN FACT, THE FIELDS WE'RE HOPING TO EXPEDITE, UM, WELL BEFORE THEN. 
          OKAY. 
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UM, WELL YOU USED THE F WORD, SO I'M GONNA, THAT'S GONNA PROMPT ME TO ASK, UH, ABOUT, UH, BASEBALL SEASON AND SOCCER SEASON. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, BECAUSE THAT'S COMING VERY MUCH MORE QUICKLY THAN I REALIZED. 
          SO, UH, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT OR HOW IS THAT SHAPING UP? UM, MR. FRYER, YOU MAY HAVE MORE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THE LAST WE DISCUSSED, HE INDICATED TO ME THAT HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GONNA BE, UH, SUBSTANTIAL OR, OR A A LENGTHY AMOUNT OF WORK, BUT, UM, WE STILL DIDN'T HAVE A TIMELINE OR A START DATE ON THAT WORK. 
          IS THAT CORRECT, MR. FRY? UH, THAT'S ACCURATE. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE ENGAGED WITH THE SUBCONTRACTOR THAT'S GONNA PERFORM THAT WORK. 
          THEY'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US EARLIER THIS WEEK FROM THE CIVIL DESIGNERS. 
          UM, AND OUR HOPE IS TO GET THEM, UM, MOBILIZED WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. 
          UM, AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE ACTUAL WORK TAKING LONGER THAN A WEEK TO COMPLETE. 
          UM, I, I HOPE TO HAVE A BETTER UPDATE TONIGHT, BUT I, I DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM MY TEAM BEFORE THIS MEETING, SO, UM, I WILL HUDDLE UP WITH THEM TOMORROW MORNING AND HOPEFULLY I CAN PROVIDE BETTER INFORMATION TO, UH, MR. BRAMAN TOMORROW. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI, ARE WE ABLE TO SEE THAT PLAN? UM, AND EVEN IF THE ANSWER'S YES, CAN WE ALSO HAVE SOME DETAIL ON, ON WHAT THE DETAILS ARE OF THAT PLAN? WHAT, WHAT IS THAT WORK AND WHAT WILL BE THE RESULT OF IT? UM, THE PLAN, IT IT'S RELATIVELY SIMPLE. 
          WE'RE ADJUSTING THE GRADING, UH, AT THE END OF THE FIELDS CLOSEST TO THE BUILDING, UH, TO ALLOW FOR THE REQUIRED 10 FOOT RUNOFF FROM THE SOCCER FIELD, UH, TO HAVE TO BE IN A LEVEL KIND OF SURFACE. 
          RIGHT NOW IT'S A BIT OF A HILL, SO WE'LL BE IMPORTING SOME SOIL AIR TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT, TO ALLOW THE, UH, FULL LENGTH OF BOTH FIELDS TO BE ACCOMMODATED, UH, BASED ON WHERE THE TRACK IS LOCATED ON THE OTHER END. 
          MR. FRYER, COULD YOU EXPLAIN ABOUT THE SLOPE YOU ANTICIPATE? UH, WELL, WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING SOIL TO THE CURRENT CONDITION TO FLATTEN THE AREA, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A SLOPE FROM THAT ADJUSTMENT DOWN TO THE TRACK THAT WILL BE PASSED, THAT 10 FOOT RUNOFF THAT'S INCLUDED WITH THE LENGTH OF THE FIELD, THE CALCULATION THERE. 
          SO IT'LL BE LIKE A THREE TO ONE SLOPE FROM THAT EDGE DOWN TO THE NEW, UM, RUBBER TRACK THAT'S, UH, ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING, MR. TANZI. 
          UH, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT DETAIL. 
          UM, WHAT IS SET UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYS STABLE SO THAT IN OVER TIME WITH EROSION OR WHATEVER THAT, THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THAT FLAT FIELD? UM, I'M, I'M TRUSTING OUR DESIGN TEAM THAT THREE TO ONE SLOPE SHOULD BE MANAGEABLE. 
          IT'S SHOULD BE A MOLDABLE SURFACE. 
          IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE STABILIZED WITH TURF. 
          IT SHOULD NOT IMPOSE A PROBLEM. 
          WE'LL DEFINITELY PROBABLY HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON IT WHILE THE TURF OR SOD IS, UH, TAKING ROOT. 
          UM, BUT IT, IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE OKAY FROM A, AN EROSION STANCE. 
          I DON'T ANTICIPATE AN ISSUE THERE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I CAN ADD TO THAT IF YOU WANT. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          SO ROBIN, THE, THE SLOPE, THE SLOPE THAT WILL BE THERE WILL BE A THREE TO ONE SLOPE. 
          SO DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS GONNA BE STEEPER THAN WHAT YOU SEE NOW. 
          UM, AND THAT IS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT SPACE, BUT A THREE TO ONE SLOPE IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED THE UPPER LIMIT OF WHAT IS KNOWABLE. 
          UM, WHEN I WORK ON POND DAM, EMBANKMENTS THREE TO ONE IS THE MAXIMUM SLOPE WE CAN DO THERE. 
          UM, SO IT IS GENERALLY, UM, ABLE TO BE STABILIZED WITH GRASS TO, UH, PREVENT EROSION FROM HAPPENING THERE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, WADE, WELL GO AHEAD. 
          JUST ONE MORE, ONE MORE FROM MR. TANZI. 
          ONE MORE TO COUNCIL MEMBER WADE. 
          UM, SO WE NOW HAVE, WHAT I UNDERSTAND WILL BE, UH, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AND EXTERNALLY AVAILABLE BATHROOMS ALONG THAT WALL. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE A STEEPER GRADE ON THAT SIDE WHERE PRESUMABLY MOSTLY KIDS WILL BE ACCESSING THAT BATHROOM. 
          DOES THAT AFFECT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO ENSURE THAT GRADE IS MAINTAINED SINCE IT WILL BOTH HAVE REGULAR, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL RUNOFF, BUT ALSO CHILDREN RUNOFF? THE, UH, THE ADJUSTMENT WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING IS NOT THE ENTIRE SWATH OF THAT EDGE THAT IS AGAINST THAT PROPERTY. 
          WE'RE JUST DOING ENOUGH ON THE LEFT FIELD TO, TO CAPTURE THAT END OF THE FIELD. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'LL STILL BE ABLE TO 
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MASSAGE THE OTHER SLOPES THAT ARE EXISTING, UM, THAT ARE, THAT ARE GONNA BE MUCH MORE PASSABLE. 
          AND I BELIEVE I, I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE ALIGNMENT OF THE DOORS OF THE BATHROOM TO WHERE THOSE SLOPES ARE AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT. 
          UM, BUT IT WILL NOT BE, THE ENTIRE RUN OF THE BUILDING ISN'T GONNA HAVE A THREE TO ONE SLOPE, IT'S JUST IN THE LOCATION WHERE WE'RE ADDING THIS, UH, SOIL TO, TO ADD THIS ONE AREA TO GET THAT ONE FIELD IN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MR. WADE. 
          YEAH, THE FOLLOW UP ON COUNCIL MEMBER TANZIS QUESTION, I, IF YOU MAY RECALL LAST YEAR, UM, AS ONE THAT COACHES ON THAT FIELD, MY KIDS AS WELL AS OTHER CHEVY RESIDENTS, WE HAD A BIG ISSUE UNFORTUNATELY WITH CONTRACTORS DURING THE TIME PLAY OF, OF GAMES ON SATURDAYS OR PRACTICES. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IF, UM, WHILE THE KIDS ARE THERE THAT WE HAVE ACCESS, UM, NOT ONLY TO THE BATHROOMS BUT GET TO THE CARS. 
          UH, WE LITERALLY HAD TO PICK UP, UH, SEVERAL RESIDENTS, UM, WITH, WITH, UH, STROLLERS AS WELL AS WHEELCHAIRS TO GET THEM THROUGH THE, UH, AREA. 
          SO IT WAS A BIG ISSUE REGARDING THAT. 
          WE ALSO PUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS IN OUR PO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, UNFORTUNATE, UH, SCENARIOS HAVING TO MOVE THE CARS REGARDING THAT. 
          THE OTHER ASPECT IS, UM, NOT SURE IF THEY SAID THERE WAS A PROJECTED DATE FOR THE FIELD. 
          UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, IF YOU DO HAVE A PROJECT PROJECTED DATE WHEN THE FIELD ITSELF WILL BE COMPLETED, CAN YOU, UH, LET US KNOW ABOUT THAT? AND THE THIRD ASPECT IS THE FACT THAT YOU SAID YOU HOPE THAT THE, THE FIELD, UM, WILL BE DONE AND BE DONE IN THE CORRECT MANNER. 
          UM, ALL DUE RESPECT, UM, REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UM, I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT HAVE FULL FAITH IN THAT, BUT ALSO WHAT IS IN THE CONTRACT, SAY AFTER, UH, THE FIELD, AFTER THE SUMMER'S DONE OR IN THE FALL, WHAT IS THE CONTRACT REGARDING, UM, IF THINGS NEED TO BE FIXED, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME ON THAT? UM, THAT WE HAVE? AND THAT MIGHT BE A MR. GALLOWAY QUESTION. 
          UH, BUT CAN WE, CAN WE SPEAK THAT, UH, NO, I CAN'T. 
          WELL, CAN YOU SAY THAT IF SOME CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE FIELD NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED, ARE, ARE THEY, ARE, IS IS THERE A TIMEFRAME THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO FIX THAT? I, I MAY BE ABLE TO FIELD THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MR. FRYER, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF, IF I'M INCORRECT IN ANY INSTANCE OF THIS. 
          UM, WE HAVE A ONE YEAR, UH, WARRANTY WITH KELLER. 
          AND SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE THIS WILL INCLUDE THAT NOW THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE FIELD, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE SECTION INSIDE THE FENCE, WHICH IS CONSIDERED INSIDE THEIR LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE AND EXTENDING THAT THE FIELD, SO TO SPEAK, OR THAT AREA FLAT AND THEN COMING DOWN. 
          SO IT'S NOT WORKING OUTSIDE THE LOD, IT'S JUST EXTENDING THE FLAT FIELDS AND THEN DOWN TO THE SLOPE. 
          UM, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THE SOD HAS TAKEN FAIRLY WELL, UH, THAT WAS IN THERE LAST YEAR. 
          AND UM, SO I THINK THE ONE YEAR WARRANTY WOULD BE APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE. 
          WOULD IT NOT, MR. FRY? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I, I'LL SAY THIS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE ALONG WITH UM, CPJ. 
          SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT AFTER THIS IS DONE, WE'LL GO AND DO THE EVALUATION OURSELF TO ENSURE THAT IT'S BEEN DONE PROPER TO PREVENT ANY TYPE OF INJURY FROM SPORTS. 
          MR. WADE, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY FIELD, BUT THAT SLOPE, UM, THE AREA INSIDE OF IT DOES HAVE THE POTENTIAL, UM, I GUESS YOU SAID IT WAS A 10 FOOT THAT WILL AFFECT, UH, THE FIELD ITSELF. 
          SO MAYBE IT'S NOT, UH, PART, THEIR JOB IS NOT PART OF THE FIELD, BUT THE IN THE, OUT OUTSIDE OF THAT CAN AFFECT THE, UH, FIELD ITSELF. 
          SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT ON RECORD. 
          SO FOR THE NEXT NINE WEEKS. 
          JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS IN JUST A COUPLE WEEKS, TWO OR THREE MR. BRAY'S TEAM WILL BEGIN TO BE ABLE TO BEGIN, BE ABLE TO BEGIN TO MOVE INTO THEIR OFFICES, BUT GREAT. 
          PERIOD. 
          NEXT PARAGRAPH. 
          FOR THE NEXT NINE WEEKS, THE BUILDING WILL STILL BE OFF LIMITS TO THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING THE RESTROOMS, CORRECT? UH, WELL THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. 
          SORRY TO JUMP IN STEVE. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE DELIVERY DATE OF THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING? I WOULD, I WOULD INCLUDE THAT WITH THE, THE 16TH DATE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT TRUE OR FALSE, THE PUBLIC WON'T BE ALLOWED INSIDE THE FENCE TO GET TO THE BATHROOM UNTIL MAY. 
          CORRECT? WE CAN ADJUST THE SITE FENCING TO PROVIDE ACCESS. 
          AH, OKAY. 
          I LIKE THIS. 
          SO WE CAN MOD IN MARCH, MODIFY THE FENCING TO ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS FROM THE FIELDS TO THE NORTH OF THE BUILDING TO THE RESTROOMS. 
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YES. 
          IT'S, WE HAVE A USE AND OCCUPANCY. 
          WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MODIFY THE GATES IN ORDER TO HAVE FULL USE OF THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR OF, OF THE BUILDING. 
          MR. BRAMAN, SO, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, WELL WE WERE ACTUALLY, UM, DISCUSSING THIS TODAY. 
          UH, BUT MY THOUGHT IS, IS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CUT LIKE A, A, A, A PATH OR SO TO SPEAK OR TO HAVE THE FENCES COME IN. 
          WE'RE NOT, I DON'T THINK THE ENTIRE LOD IS GONNA BE OPENED UP. 
          UM, I JUST WOULD CAUTION THAT DEPENDING UPON THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THE BERM AND IF THAT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, HAVE SOME TIME FOR STABILIZED, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T TALKED THAT THROUGH. 
          UM, BUT THE BACKUP WOULD BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING, HAVING PORTABLE, UH, TOILETS AVAILABLE, BUT THE INTENT, AS MR. FRYER SAID, WAS TO HAVE THOSE BATHROOMS AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, SO FOR THE NEXT NINE WEEKS OR SO, STILL THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE FIELDS WILL JUST BE ON THE FAR NORTH SIDE WHERE THE CHEVROLET DAY BEER TEND IS. 
          RIGHT? THAT LITTLE PIECE OF ASPHALT, THAT'S HOW YOU GET TO THE FIELDS. 
          WELL, WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT WE SHOULD SAY THAT IT'S LIKELY THAT IT'LL JUST BE A PATHWAY TO THE BATHROOMS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO OPEN UP THE ENTIRE AREA TO THE TRACK YET. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MR. FRY, DO YOU SEE THAT DIFFERENTLY? I THINK THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE BERM WORK IS GONNA BE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, IF THE, IF THE, IF THE BERM WORK IS DONE AND WHERE YOU GET, UH, PERMISSION FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SITE FOLKS TO MODIFY THE EXISTING SITE FENCING TO GIVE MORE ACCESS, THEN I, I THINK WE ARE TOTALLY OPEN TO EXPLORING THAT SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REST OF THE WORK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING AFTER MARCH 16TH IS REALLY JUST, UM, REALLY IN THE BAY AREAS AND WHERE WE HAVE THE CONCRETE WORK TO CORRECT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, MY GOAL IS TO GIVE OVER AS MUCH OF THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR SPACE AS WE CAN ON THE 16TH. 
          SO IF THE WORK RELATED TO THE FIELD IS COMPLETED BY THEN, UM, I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH STEVE AND ROBIN TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO MODIFY THE EXISTING SITE FENCING TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, TO OUR BEST ABILITY AS MUCH ACCESS AS POSSIBLE. 
          IN FACT, HOPEFULLY I'M NOT, UM, JUST CAME TO MIND AND POSSIBLY USING THE PATH TO ACCESS THE BATHROOMS MIGHT BE ALLOW US TO AVOID THE BERM AS AS IT STABILIZES. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN TRY TO, THIS IS THE CREATIVE THINKING THAT I, I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          SO WE'LL PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO, ONE, PROTECT THE BERM TO GET THAT STABILIZED. 
          AND TWO, GIVE ACCESS TO THE, UH, BATHROOMS. EXCELLENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS. 
          UH, I THINK MARCH TOWN MEETING IS THE TIME TO START MESSAGING TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT WHEN THEY GO DOWN THERE WEEK BY WEEK. 
          UH, I KNOW IT'S A DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT, BUT USAGE OF THAT AREA IS GOING TO INCREASE, IT'S PROBABLY DOUBLES EVERY WEEK STARTING MARCH 1ST. 
          AND SO I THINK THE MARCH TOWN MEETING, WE NEED TO HAVE VERY CLEAR MESSAGING TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN, UH, WHATEVER THE ANSWER IS. 
          IT JUST NEEDS TO BE CLEAR AND CONSISTENT. 
          I THINK WE'RE OKAY FOR NOW 'CAUSE IT'S STILL FEBRUARY. 
          UH, COUNSEL, ANYTHING FURTHER BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC INPUT? MR. GALLOWAY? YEAH, SO I JUST HAVE TWO THINGS. 
          UM, IF YOU ALL CAN SPEAK ABOUT PUDDLING A WATER PUDDLING ALONG THE TRACK AND IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF MITIGATION EFFORTS WITH THAT, NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, UM, SINCE WE DO HAVE OUR UNO, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE CHARGING STATIONS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE RESIDENTS? HMM. 
          GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, I, THE CHARGING STATION ONE IS SOMETHING I'D HAVE TO RESEARCH DALENE. 
          I, UM, THAT'S A NEW ONE FOR ME, SO IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO RESEARCH THAT TOMORROW AND GET BACK TO YOU AND STEVE, UM, I'LL LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THE PUDDLING AT THE TRACK, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IS RELATED TO AN ISSUE WE HAVE WITH THE STRUCTURE OUT THERE. 
          WE HAVE A FIX, UH, FOR THAT STRUCTURE, UM, THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED WHEN WE DO THIS, UH, FIELD, UH, MODIFICATION. 
          UM, AND WE SHOULD SEE RELIEF THERE, UH, WHEN THAT STRUCTURE AND THE CORRECT, UH, LIDS ARE APPLIED TO THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE IN THAT AREA. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANY, UH, THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE VEHICLE CHARGER. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THE KELLER CONSTRUCTION UPDATE? PLEASE COME UP, UH, TO THE LEFT OF MR. CARDENAS, UH, YOUR NAME, YOUR WARD, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          I HOPE TO NOT TAKE THREE MINUTES. 
          UM, ONE, I I JUST WANNA ADD MY VOICE TO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE TABLE. 
          THE, THE SLOPES, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, 
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UM, AROUND THE, THE TRACK AROUND THE FIELD, UM, ARE GOING TO BE, I FEAR A CONCERN AS FAR AS WATER COMING ONTO THE TRACK IN THE FIELD. 
          AND, AND GRASS IS NOT GONNA STOP THAT GRASS IS GONNA ACCELERATE THAT. 
          SO I, I JUST REALLY, THERE, THERE'S A LOT I'M PROBABLY NOT SEEING OR UNDERSTANDING, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING HAS ME VERY CONCERNED. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS, AND I KNOW I'VE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW THIS, THE, WITHIN THE CONTRACT WAS DARK SKY COMPLIANT LIGHTING REQUESTED AND WAS IT SUPPLIED? I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE ADJUSTMENTS BEING MADE, BUT I KNOW COMMUNITY HAS REPEATEDLY REQUESTED DARK SKY COMPLIANT LIGHTING. 
          SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE AN ANSWER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT MADE IT INTO THE CONTRACT FOR THIS PROJECT AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. 
          UH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS ITEM? COUNSEL ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL RIGHT, WE WILL DO IT AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS. 
          UM, UM, BEN AND ROBIN AND ROBIN, THANK YOU, UH, FOR WORKING ON THIS AND WE WILL BE IN TOUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 57 0 1 LANDOVER ROAD. 
          UM, MS. BEETLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US AT THE TABLE? UH, FOR THOSE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF 57TH AVENUE AND LANDOVER ROAD IN WARD ONE. 
          UH, AND IT IS ENTIRELY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF CHEV. 
          UH, HOW SHALL WE PROCEED, MR. GALLOWAY? OR ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH, WELCOME. 
          IT SHIFTS IT ALL TO ME . 
          SO, UM, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, I'M DIANE BEETLE AND I'M WITH COMMUNITY NATIVE PLANTING PROJECT. 
          UM, TWO YEARS AGO, JUST OVER TWO YEARS AGO, FEBRUARY 2ND, NO, FEBRUARY 1ST, 2004 OR 2 20 24, UM, WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE TOWN IN ANA ANACOSTIA WATERSHED SOCIETY TO RECLAIM 57 0 1 FROM INVASIVE SPECIES AND ILLEGAL DUMPING. 
          AND WE HAVE IT CLEARED. 
          IT'S PLANTED, WE HAVE PATHS IN THERE. 
          UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY MOVING FORWARD. 
          WE HAVE, UM, WE DID THE, YOU GUYS ALL HAVE THE PLAN, UM, THAT WE PRESENTED OVER A YEAR AGO, UM, OVER A, I THINK IT WAS 1082 HOURS WERE PUT IN BY, UH, LOCAL VOLUNTEERS TO GET THIS WORK DONE. 
          UM, SORRY. 
          OH, . 
          UM, SO ANYWAY, SO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW IS, THERE'S A FEW THINGS GOING ON. 
          UM, ONE, IT HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE MIRACLE THAT THAT UNTIL THIS, THE ICE STORM, THE, THE TEMPORARY FENCING HAS STAYED UP FOR TWO YEARS, WHICH WAS BEYOND EXPECTATION. 
          UM, AND I WILL SAY I, I WAS DRIVING BY YESTERDAY AND IT LIKE THE TEMP FENCING HAS TO BE TAKEN DOWN BECAUSE IT'S FLAPPING AND IT'S GOING TO, IT COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE A ROAD HAZARD. 
          SO I THINK THAT HAS TO COME DOWN ASAP. 
          UM, AND UM, WE HAVE DISCUSSED, UM, THE TOWN AND I HAVE DISCUSSED ABOUT, UM, TEMPORARY FENCING GOING BACK UP BECAUSE THE SLOPE SLOPES ARE STILL, UH, THE SLOPES ARE STEEP. 
          SO YOU DO WANNA HAVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY UNTIL PERMANENT FENCING CAN BE INSTALLED. 
          UM, THE TOWN HAS, AND, AND, UM, YOU ALL CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS, THERE WAS A COUPLE GRANT REQUESTS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT GETTING FENCING. 
          UM, AND I, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NEITHER, WELL THE TOWN DID TWO AND CNPP DID ONE AND ALL OF US GOT DID NOT, THEY WEREN'T AWARDED. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO DO, BECAUSE TWO YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO GO WITHOUT A PERMANENT FENCE, IS ADJUSTING PLANS. 
          AND MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I'M NOT, THIS HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED THAT THERE'S $35,000 IN THE TOWN BUDGET. 
          THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR 57 0 1. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD RECEIVED A REPORT 
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ON THIS OR, UM, ANYTHING. 
          I JUST MIGHT, YOU MENTIONED IT LIKE IN PASSING ONE DAY, UM, IF WE SAID, YOU KNOW, NOT LET THE PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD AND WENT FOR SOMETHING LIKE FOUR FOOT TALL CHAIN LINK FENCING, THE BLACK CHAIN LINK FENCING THAT DISAPPEARS AND, UM, HAS BEEN USED IN OTHER SPOTS THROUGHOUT TOWN, I BELIEVE WITH THAT SIZE, THAT COULD BE COVERED BY THE AMOUNT THAT'S IN THE BUDGET. 
          UM, SO IT IS, IS IT IN THERE MICAH MAYOR ? YES, MA'AM. 
          WELL, YES AND NO. 
          THERE, THERE'S NO MONEY IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR F FY 26 OH. 
          AND WAS UNTIL, SO JULY IS WHEN, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S 35 FOR 27 AND 35 FOR 28. 
          OKAY. 
          I, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, USEFUL TO GET BIDS FOR. 
          UM, I AM TALKING WITH, UM, BECAUSE I'M GETTING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT, I'M GETTING BIDS FROM PEOPLE FOR A FENCING FOR WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN BLADENSBURG, UM, CHEVROLET HOME IMPROVEMENT CAN DO A BID FOR US PRETTY QUICKLY TO GIVE US JUST EVEN A BALLPARK TO SEE IF IT'S REALISTIC. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE CAN IT BE COVERED OR DO WE JUST KEEP TEMPORARY FENCING UP UNTIL WE GET, YOU KNOW, I DON'T UNTIL WE GET THE MONEY FOR THE REALLY FANCY NICE FENCE, YOU KNOW. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S A DECISION YOU ALL HAVE TO MAKE. 
          UM, AND BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE DO NEED THE TEMPORARY FENCING REPLACED BECAUSE THE STORM DID IT IN, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DESERVES A HERO'S WELCOME FOR HOW LONG IT STOOD UP. 
          UM, OR HEROES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA SAY. 
          SO SHOULD WE TAKE A QUICK, JUST HAVE A QUICK DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FENCING THEN? YEAH, SURE. 
          SO MR. GALLOWAY, WHAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE, AND AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LANDOVER ROAD OR 57? BOTH. 
          BOTH, OKAY. 
          SO THAT THE TWO SIDES. 
          YEAH. 
          THE LEFT SIDE AND THE NORTH, THE WEST SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE, OF THE RECTANGLE. 
          YES. 
          UH, SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE DOWN THE TEMPORARY FENCING AND WHAT IS THE CURRENT PLAN FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS ON THE FENCE? WE'RE GONNA REINSTALL TEMPORARY FENCING. 
          YEAH, THE POLES ARE FINE. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S JUST THE PLASTIC PART GOT SHREDDED BY THE ICE BARN. 
          BY THE ICE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S A MARCH THING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I WOULD SAY THAT THE FLAPPING FENCING SHOULD COME DOWN TOMORROW IF POSSIBLE, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A, IT WILL, IT COULD CREATE A HAZARD ON A HAZARDOUS ROAD. 
          SO, ALRIGHT, SO LET'S MAKE A PRIORITY TO GET THIS, UM, THE ORANGE PLASTIC FENCING OFF AND REPLACED. 
          WE CAN GET THAT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PERMANENT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THIS TEMPORARY FENCING TO BE THERE FOR TWO YEARS, BUT NO, IT'LL GET US THROUGH A LOT OF 2026. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL BE, THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITIES I THINK WE'LL GO OVER LATER ON TONIGHT. 
          BUT ALSO IN DETERMINING, UM, WHAT CAPITAL PROJECTS GET FUNDED, THAT'S GONNA BE AN OVERALL BIGGER BUDGET DISCUSSION. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THINK THAT THIS FENCE HADN'T BEEN FUNDED IS BECAUSE, UM, WE'VE BEEN APPLYING FOR A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TYPE OF FENCE INSTEAD OF THIS NORMAL, INSTEAD OF THE NORMAL CHAIN LINK FENCE AND THE PRICE OF THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, IT WAS UPWARDS OF 200 K. 
          RIGHT? I I NOT THE BID THAT I RECEIVED THE OTHER DAY YEAH. 
          THAT IT, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE 200 K PRICING BECAUSE THE BID THAT I RECEIVED SAID IT WAS $65,000. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE GRANT AND I UNDERSTAND AND WHAT, WHAT GOT IT TO THE $200,000? THE BID THAT I GOT YEARS AGO OR WHEN DID I APPLY? I THINK I APPLIED IN 20, 24 WAS $90,000. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE HAD A FEW BIDS FROM, UH, OUR GRANT WRITING TEAM AND WE'VE APPLIED FOR MULTIPLE GRANTS AND HAVEN'T BEEN AWARDED FOR ANY GRANT AS IT RELATED TO THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE HIGH NUMBER OF THE COST OF THE FENCE. 
          UM, SINCE WE'VE MET, WE'VE ALL MADE THE DECISION THAT WE CAN PUT ON NORMAL CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT'S BLACK THERE AND I THINK THAT CAN HELP INCREASE OUR ODDS IN MAKING A, THE REQUEST, UH, WITH SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE CAN ASK FOR IN THAT AREA AS WELL. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I, I THINK THE THING THAT I, SO JUST LIKE WATCHING, IT'S BEEN REALLY, I, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A GREAT ADVANTAGE TO HAVING TEMPORARY FENCE AND SITTING ON THIS AND THINKING THIS AND THINKING THROUGH THIS. 
          AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT THINGS ARE NOT AS BAD AS WE EXPECTED. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE THE LITTER AND THE TRASH IS NOT 
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NOWHERE AS BAD AS WE EXPECTED. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO, UM, PEOPLE AREN'T THROWING THINGS OVER. 
          WE'RE NOT SEEING, LIKE, WE'RE NOT SEEING PROBLEMS THAT WE ANTICIPATED. 
          SO LIKE I'M FEELING MORE COMFORTABLE WITH JUST A FOUR FOOT FENCE. 
          AND THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU GO WITH CHAIN LINK FENCING, IF YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, A CAR ACCIDENT WHERE THE CAR GOES DOWN THE HILL, UM, THE FENCING'S A LOT CHEAPER AND EASIER TO REPAIR. 
          UM, SO, AND YES, A CAR DID GO DOWN THE HILL, SO, SO WE WILL HAVE IN AN ACCIDENT, ANOTHER CONVERSATION IN MARCH THEN AND JUST COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR FENCE AND MOVE OUT ON IT AND AT LEAST GET PRICES AND WE MAY FUND IT. 
          I MEAN WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND DECIDE TO FUND IT OR NOT FUND IT. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE SOME ONE RIGHT NOW GETTING PRICES FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I I'M GONNA GET ONE PRICE, BUT YOU ALL HAVE FOLKS TOO THAT YOU SHOULD CHECK WITH ME I BELIEVE IN, BUT I DON'T WANNA GO INTO NEXT WINTER WITHOUT A FENCE INSTALLED. 
          LIKE A REAL, LIKE, LIKE A REAL LIKE 15 YEAR, 10 YEAR, WHATEVER IT IS, FENCE. 
          SO LET'S JUST DO IT IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS, UH, BEFORE THE WEATHER TURNS COLD AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I, GO AHEAD. 
          I DO THINK THE CHAIN LINK FENCE WILL BE MORE REASONABLE. 
          THE, THE BALLPARK THAT I GOT IS IT WOULD BE BETWEEN 20 AND 25 FOR THAT SIZE. 
          SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT BAD. 
          YEAH. 
          NOW YEAH, NOW IT BE SOUNDS ATTAINABLE, RIGHT, . 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I CUT YOU OFF. 
          I KNOW YOU WERE GOING ON. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          A NON FENCE THING. 
          SO GO AHEAD. 
          OH NO, I MEAN, SO, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE WAITING FOR THE WEATHER TO GET WARM TO JUST DO A COUPLE THINGS LIKE REMOVING THE SOD TO A, UM, AT THE TOP. 
          UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO, THE TOWN WILL BE DOING THAT WORK AND THEN, UM, WOOD CHIPPING IT AND KEEPING IT BELOW THE SIDEWALK SO THE WOOD CHIP'S NOT FLOWING ONTO THE SIDEWALK. 
          THAT MEANS THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS WON'T HAVE TO GO OVER AND MOW THAT AREA. 
          IT WILL ALSO BE EASIER TO DEAL WITH THE LITTER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GATHER AGAINST A HUNCH AGAIN, WHICH IS NOT AS BAD AS WE EXPECTED. 
          UM, AND THEN IT ALSO HELPS CPPS WORK BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TAKE ON A PROJECT, WE AGREE TO DO LIKE THE WEEDING AND THE KEEPING THE INVASIVES OUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND IT WILL HELP US SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ENCROACHMENT FROM THE TOP OF THE HILL. 
          AND THEN THAT WILL GIVE OUR NATIVE PLANTS MORE OF A CHANCE TO SPREAD OUT WITHOUT, WITHOUT HAVING TO COMPETE WITH, UM, JUNKIE TURF STUFF. 
          SO, UM, THE OTHER THING, AND, AND THIS IS I DECIDED TO TAKE THIS ON EVEN 'CAUSE I'M SLIGHTLY CRAZY, AS WE ALL KNOW, UM, THERE IS A GRANT, UM, A A RP DOES A COMMUNITY CHALLENGE GA GRANT AS PART OF ITS LEVEL COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, AND SO IN THE PLAN, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS THE OTHER DAY, UM, THERE IN, IN THE 57 0 1 PLAN THAT Y'ALL HAVE COPIES OF THAT WE PRESENTED LAST YEAR, WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE HOW THE ENTIRE, BECAUSE OF TOPOGRAPHICAL IT MIGHT, I'M PROBABLY PRONOUNCING THAT INCORRECTLY AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, WATER ISSUES AND THINGS. 
          WE CAN'T MAKE THE ENTIRE PARK ACCESSIBLE. 
          HOWEVER, WE CAN MAKE THE ENTRANCE ACCESSIBLE WHERE WE HAVE A, UH, UM, AN ACCEPT A ACCESSIBLE PATHWAY AND THEN A LIKE GATHERING AREA, LIKE A PATIO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TERM IS. 
          UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SPACES, WHEN THE GRADING, WHEN THE SLOPE STABILIZATION WORK WAS DONE, THEY ALSO DID GRADE THE ENTRYWAY TO MAKE THE SLOPE MORE, TO MAKE IT LESS SEVERE. 
          I, I, I NEVER KNOW THE TECHNICAL TERMS ON THESE. 
          SO, UM, A A RP IN THEIR LIVABLE COMMUNITIES, UM, PROGRAM, WHICH I USED TO WORK FOR, UM, THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY CHALLENGE GRANT FOR $15,000 AND I DID GET A BID FOR CREATING THE ACCESSIBLE PATHWAY AND LANDING AREA AND IT FALLS WITHIN THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE CAN ALSO GET AN ACCESSIBLE PICNIC BENCH AT, ON THE PAD. 
          UM, AND, UM, AND THEN A COUPLE MORE BENCHES. 
          'CAUSE THE GARDEN CLUB HAS DONATED A BENCH, SO WE ARE PUTTING IN FOR THAT GRANT, KNOCK ON WOOD THAT IT IS FUNDED. 
          UM, AND THE, THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THIS GRANT IS THEY DO RES THEY ASK YOU IF YOU WILL LET THEM SHARE THE STORY OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO OTHER FUNDERS TO POTENTIALLY BRING IN MORE FUNDING. 
          SO, UM, SO HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY KNOCK ON WOOD THAT THIS WILL WORK. 
          YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THIS COULD OPEN THE DOOR TO HELP WITH OTHER FEATURES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          UM, AND IT'S, IT'S MAINTENANCE. 
          WE HAVE, THE TOWN IS GOING TO PUT WOOD CHIPS IN THE ONE AREA THAT WE HAD RESERVED FOR A POTENTIAL 
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PLAY AREA. 
          UM, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE ISSUE OF THE NEVER ENDING GLASS THAT'S COMING OUT EVERYWHERE, EVEN WITH THE SOIL ADDITIONS. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT AND THINK ABOUT. 
          UM, BUT OH, AND OUR FIRST VOLUNTEER WORK SESSION FOR 2026 IS NEXT WEEKEND, MARCH 7TH. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA START THE WEEDING AND WE'RE IN MAINTENANCE PHASE AND THINGS ARE, IT'S LOOKING GOOD. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY WITH HOW IT TURNED OUT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO, UM, OTHER THAN THE FENCE, MR. GALLOWAY, WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THERE? WELL, I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROCURE THE FENCE, BUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE FENCE OF COURSE IS GONNA BE A VOTE OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL BECAUSE OF, OF ALL THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, UM, DIANE AND THE COMMUNITY NATIVE PLANTING PROJECT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          I ALWAYS WANNA SAY SHARE , UM, WITH THE, THE WOOD CHIPS, THE TURF REMOVAL BY THE SIDEWALK. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          UM, JUST DUE TO THE VOLUNTEER AND VOLUNTEERS IN THEIR CAPACITY, WE ARE GOING TO BE WATERING ALL SITES. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM, IS I, THAT WAS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          WE DID DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING THE TOWN TAKE ON THE WATERING THAT WILL BE NEEDED, UM, ESPECIALLY LIKE IN AUGUST AT 57 0 1. 
          AND IF THE TOWN CAN DO IT, THAT THAT'S AWESOME BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR, UM, AS SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, WHEN WE ARE DRAGGING THE, THE HEAVY HOSES AND IT'S TAKING OVER THREE HOURS, IT'S STILL A FIRE HYDRANT. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT'S STILL, YOU HAVE TO USE A FIRE HYDRANT AND ONLY SOME OF US CAN OPEN IT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, AND HE TAUGHT US HOW TO DO IT. 
          NOT ALL OF US USED TO BE FIREFIGHTERS. 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          SO, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER GRANT THAT, UH, DIANE BROUGHT MS. ER BROUGHT TO THE TABLE WAS THE PEPCO GRANT FOR THE RESILIENCY HUB. 
          UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYES ON, UH, WHENEVER THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE. 
          SO YEAH, WE'RE DEFINITELY WORKING, WORKING IN COORDINATION WITH, UH, MS. BELE HERE MOVING FORWARD. 
          I'M, I'M OKAY WITH ALL OF THIS. 
          UH, I WANT TO TURN TO COUNCIL MEMBER WADE TO MAKE SURE HE'S OKAY WITH IT. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, THIS SOUNDS GREAT FOR 2026. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, TO ME, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ALL HEARTS ARE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE BEFORE THE WEATHER TURNS COLD AGAIN. 
          SIR, DID YOU WANT TO COME IN NOW OR? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL THANK YOU AGAIN, DIANE. 
          AND OF COURSE TEAM FOR ALL YOU YOU'VE DONE REGARDING THIS AS A PERSON NOT ONLY REPRESENTS, UH, WARD ONE, BUT ALSO LIVE ON THAT SIDE. 
          UM, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IT WAS SEVERAL YEARS, DECADES THAT, THAT WAS A DUMPING SITE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, NOW THAT MY, UM, TWO YOUNG KIDS NOW CAN SEE THAT AND SAY, WOW, DADDY, WE WILL HAVE A PARK ON THAT SIDE. 
          SO THAT'S DUE TO YOU AS WELL AS AWS YOUR TEAM, OF COURSE THE TOWN ITSELF. 
          SO WE TRULY APPRECIATE THAT, UH, THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT. 
          UM, MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, NUMBER ONE ON MARCH 7TH, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE TIME? DO YOU HAVE A TIME FOR THAT? YEAH, SO, SO THAT'S NINE TO 11. 
          IT'S GONNA BE AN EASY, IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE FEW EASY ONES. 
          UM, I I DON'T RECOMMEND BRINGING KIDS TO IT THOUGH, JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE GROUND. 
          UM, AND BECAUSE OF THE GLASS, UM, WE DO, WE DID BUY PADS FOR THAT FOR VOLUNTEERS TO KNEEL ON TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE GLASS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, WE DID SEVERAL, NOT ALL, BUT I BE THERE. 
          AND THEN DEFINITELY THE GLASS LEVEL. 
          UM, AND IT'S A LOT OF, OF MANPOWER, UH, THERE. 
          I THINK EVEN WE HAD E ELIZABETH SETON VOLUNTEERS THERE AT THE EVENT AS WELL FOR VOLUNTEERS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THEN WE HAVE SOME, WE, WE DID DO ONE EVENT WITH ELIZABETH SETON. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT JUST SHOWS YOU THAT THAT IS NOT JUST, UH, IT IS, IT IS A LY PROPERTY, BUT THIS IS ALSO A GATEWAY AND THAT AFFECTS OTHER, UH, INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN AS A WHOLE. 
          SO IT HOW THAT REPRESENTS. 
          UM, WE MENTIONED ABOUT THE, UH, TIMELINE FOR THAT, AND I KNOW YOU SAID THE INSTALLATION STAGES OF THAT. 
          CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO THAT? WHAT YOU, YOU, YOUR ORGANIZATION AS FAR AS THE LONG TERM TIME? I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX MONTHS, BUT WHAT'S THE LONG TERM TIMELINE AND WHAT YOU SEE THAT BASED ON THE TOPOGRAPHY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED THERE? WHAT YOU SEE THE INSTALLATIONS THERE? WHICH INSTALLATIONS ARE YOU REFERRING TO? I'M JUST GOING OVER ALL THE, UM, OH, SO THE ENTIRE DESIGN. 
          SO, AND YOU HAVE TO HERE THE STAGES THAT, UH, YEAH. 
          INSTALLATION STAGES. 
          SO THOSE LIKE A DA AND EVEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I KNOW AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, I'M ADAMANT ABOUT A PLAYGROUND BEING THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT, UM, EVEN SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S MENTIONED HERE, DO YOU THINK 
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THAT, UH, THAT'S FEASIBLE? THOSE TYPE OF, NOT A PLAYGROUND, BUT, UM, VARIOUS, SO SOME PLAY FEATURES, I HONESTLY LIKE, I REALLY, REALLY WANTED TO SEE, LIKE, WE RESERVE THAT SPOT FOR IT. 
          I WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE IT MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE OF, OF, WE BROUGHT IN SO MUCH SOIL AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY HOURS, I THINK BETH WAS WITH US ONE DAY WHEN WE WERE JUST PULLING GLASS OUT AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA END. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I, I THINK THE THINGS THAT, THAT, SO CMPP HAS TO FOCUS ON THE PLANTING AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I HAVE NO MONEY TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT. 
          I AM DONATING MONEY AND I HAVE TO HIRE STAFF TO WORK IN CHEVROLET AND PAY FOR IT MYSELF. 
          I HAVE NO MONEY FROM Y'ALL TO DO THIS. 
          SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE PLANTING. 
          THE, THE FENCE HAS BEEN, UH, MUST DO. 
          AND I THINK THE OTHER PHASES HAVE BEEN THAT IF WE CAN DO, THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS TO DO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I JUST, BECAUSE OF MY, MY PAST EMPLOYMENT MM-HMM . 
          SAID, HEY, LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO THE AADA A PART. 
          YOU KNOW, AND, AND JUST BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE IT BE, YOU KNOW, THE PIECE THAT CAN BE ACCESSIBLE, BE ACCESSIBLE. 
          I THINK THE OTHER PARTS ARE THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DISCUSS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK THAT WE DID IS PRESERVED. 
          UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP IN THE WORK THAT WENT IN THERE. 
          UM, WE HAD 117 VOLUNTEERS DOING IT. 
          SO, UM, AND, AND THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN WE, WE MADE THE PLAN, IT'S LIKE WE TOOK ALL THE IDEAS THAT WE CAN AND IT'S LIKE, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANNA SEE NOW, WHAT CAN YOU REALLY DO? SO, YEAH. 
          SO I GUESS MAYBE THE ASPECT MORE YOU'RE SAYING, LIKE, I'M LOOKING AT THE PAGE HERE, UH, 16, THE GATHERING AREA AND WALKABLE PATH. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE FEASIBLE? IT'S ALREADY IN, WELL, I'M SEEING ACTUAL STRUCTURES HERE. 
          PICTURES OF STRUCTURES ON THE GATHERING AREA. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE THING IN FRONT OF ME. 
          UM, 16. 
          LIKE SEATING AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I MEAN, THE BOULDERS ARE THERE. 
          YEAH, THEY'RE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL THERE, LIKE THE WALKING PATH AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT'S THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE SINCE THEY, SO WE, WE DID NOT IN, SO WE PUT THE BOULDERS WERE IN THERE. 
          UM MM-HMM . 
          THEY'RE POSITIONED, THE GATHERING AREA IS THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE, THE PATHS ARE AROUND. 
          UM, THERE'S A PATH THAT CIRCLES THE WHOLE THING. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE SIDE PATH THAT GOES OFF. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T USE BOULDERS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FUND, LIKE TO LINE THE PASS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I DO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S POTENTIALLY DONATING SOME TO US. 
          AND I, I'D LOVE, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL STEAL SOME PUBLIC WORK SKIES TO GO OVER AND HAUL 'EM. 
           MAYBE, BUT, UM, BUT THAT'S IN, YEAH, THAT'S DONE. 
          GOT, GOT IT. 
          AND JUST, MR. GALLO, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE PEPCO GRANT. 
          YOU, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF THAT GRANT YOU KNOW ABOUT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? IF YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN LET ME KNOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW ALL THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENTS FOR, FOR THAT GRANT YET, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL GET NOTIFIED WHENEVER IT BECOMES AVAILABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT, THAT GRANT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH 57 0 1. 
          THAT HAS TO DO WITH, WE JUST, WE ENDED UP GOING ON MULTIPLE PATHS IN OUR CONVERSATION. 
          SO THAT'S, UH, A GRANT THAT PEPCO, IT WOULD, THE GRANT WILL BE DUE, I THINK IN JULY, AND IT'S ABOUT, IT'S FOR 25 UP TO $25,000. 
          AND THAT IS FUNDING THAT TOWNS AND ENTITIES CAN APPLY FOR TO, UM, GET THINGS THAT WILL HELP THEM, UM, UH, BE RESILIENT WHEN THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, MAJOR STORMS AND IMPACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO LIKE, CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN GET ARE LIKE SOLAR, YOU KNOW, LIKE I, THE, YOU CAN GET BIG BATTERY PACKS THAT CAN BE ATTACHED AND THE ATTACHMENTS TO LIKE THE SOLAR HERE SO THAT YOU HAVE CHARGING, YOU CAN RUN THE BUILDINGS, YOU CAN BUY BIG REFRIGERATION UNITS. 
          YOU CAN BUY THE BIG WATER FILTERS THAT MM-HMM . 
          DON'T RELY ON ENERGY. 
          SO THAT'S AS SOME, IT'S, IT'S, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW WE ENDED UP TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT IT JUST, UM, YEAH. 
          SO THAT, THAT WOULDN'T BE APPLICABLE FOR IT'S, THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE FOR THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          I YIELD BACK. 
          COUNCILMAN GAR. 
          YEAH. 
          I, OOH DANG. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO, MR. GALLO, WE JUST WANNA CONFIRM HOW, HOW IS ALL THIS BEING, I GUESS, HOW ARE WE PLANNING TO PAY FOR THIS GRANTS THAT WE'RE APPLYING ? ARE WE PLANNING ON PAYING FOR LIKE THE FENCE AND AUGUST, KEEPING THE GRANTS FOR GRANTS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE APPLYING FOR? THOSE GRANTS WE'RE APPLYING FOR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I, I JUST 
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SAW THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS NEXT. 
          I'LL JUST HOLD MY QUESTIONS TO THAT. 
          I THINK, UM, YEAH, IF WE DON'T, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A FENCE. 
          SO IF WE DON'T GET ANY GRANTS FOR IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT. 
          BUT THE SITE CAN'T NOT HAVE A FENCE AND IT CAN'T HAVE A TEMPORARY OFFENSE FOREVER. 
          AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A VOTE, CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, YEAH, WE WOULD ALL HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND, AND, AND, UM, YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH, A TOUGH SPENDING DECISION IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT FOR IT. 
          I ALSO THINK ON THE A DA SECTION, IF, IF, IF THE A A RP GRANT IS NOT ATTAINED, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT PAYING TO BUILD THAT SECTION. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER WE WANT TO BUILD THAT OR MAKE IT A CAPITAL ITEM OR TO DELAY IT. 
          I MEAN, IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, THEN WE DON'T, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO FIND OTHER MONEY OR NOT DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL ON THE WAY FORWARD ON 58 57 0 1 ? THAT'S BEEN THROWING ME OFF TOO. 
          57? YES. 
          THIS IS 57 0 1 LANDOVER ROAD. 
          ANY OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE THEN. 
          ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON 57 0 1. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MS. BELE FOR YOUR CONTINUED DEDICATION TO THIS PORTION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, THAT CONCLUDES ITEM SIX. 
          ITEM SEVEN IS THE POLICY COMMITTEE UPDATE. 
          UH, WOULD THE POLICY C COMMITTEE, OR ANY OF ITS MEMBERS LIKE TO BRIEFLY OVERVIEW THEIR, UH, DISCUSSION DOCUMENT? GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THE POLICY COMMITTEE MET, UM, AGAIN, LAST TIME WE HAD A WORK SESSION, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UM, WE USUALLY, WHEN THE POLICY COMMITTEE, UH, BRINGS FORWARD A POLICY, IT'S CLEAR BEFOREHAND SORT OF THE DIRECTION OF THE POLICY AND, AND WHAT IT SHOULD INCLUDE. 
          AND IT'S ABOUT WORDING. 
          UM, AND LAST TIME WE MENTIONED THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT, THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP THAT FELT LIKE WE AS A BODY SHOULDN'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND WE NEEDED MORE CLARIFICATION FROM THE LARGER BODY ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED BEFORE ACTUALLY COMING UP WITH LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, I, UH, WORKED WITH THE POLICY COMMITTEE AND MR. GALLOWAY, MR. DELOACH, AND WE CAME UP WITH SOME AREAS OF, UH, QUESTIONS THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD DISCUSS AS A GROUP, UH, AS WE ARE DEVELOPING WHAT THIS POLICY LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, I THINK PRIMARILY, UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND PART OF IT WAS JUST VERY TIMELY BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, UM, IS THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BEING USED FOR AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BEING USED RESPONSIBLY. 
          AND SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANY POLICY THAT INVOLVES COUNCIL MEMBER USE OF TOWN RESOURCES, UM, DOESN'T HAVE ANY BLIND SPOTS WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT THE PERCEPTION IS OF HOW TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BEING USED. 
          SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE POLICY IS AIRTIGHT AND COVERS, UM, SO THAT THERE ISN'T ANY QUESTION LATER ABOUT HOW TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE USED AND WHAT THEY'RE USED FOR. 
          AND SO, UM, YEAH, THAT WAS THE BACKGROUND ON, UH, WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. 
          AND I THINK WE CAN JUST TALK THROUGH SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, UM, CONSIDERATIONS AND, UH, WE'LL TAKE NOTES AND THEN WE WILL DRAFT A POLICY ONCE WE HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF HOW THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE IS FEELING. 
          SOUND GOOD? YEAH. 
          I THINK IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE TO GO, TO GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENT, UM, AND THEN BRIEFLY TOUCH ON EACH POINT AND THEN YEAH. 
          OH, YEAH, I CAN DO THAT. 
          SEE WHERE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE COUNCIL IS MM-HMM . 
          ON INDIVIDUAL KIND OF CONCEPTS. 
          DID YOU NOT HAVE THIS DOCUMENT IN PENDING? NO. 
          I MEAN, IT'S IN YOUR E YEAH, YEAH, IT'S IN YOUR EMAIL. 
          IT'S NOT IN THE PACKET. 
          IT'S NOT IN THE PAPER PACKET. 
          THIS WAS SHARED WITH US. 
          YES. 
          THE AGENDA ON SUNDAY. 
          WHY IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          LIKE I SENT IT AROUND AND SAID, HERE, HERE ARE SOME THINGS FOR COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE WE MEET, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY JUST GO THROUGH THEM NOW. 
          UM, I WAS GONNA GO DOWN TO NUMBER TWO, KEY POLICY CONSIDERATIONS. 
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UM, CAN WE START FROM ONE, CAN WE GO WORK OUR WAY DOWN? SURE. 
          SO OUR ASSUMPTION IS THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE TOWN RESOURCES FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES BECAUSE COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS PART OF THEIR ROLE, UM, BACK HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M JUST MOVING UP SO I CAN, YEAH. 
          UM, THE COUNTERPOINT TO THAT IS THE QUESTION OF WHETHER, UM, IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD NOT HAVE, OR ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO RESOURCES THAT ARE NOT EQUALLY AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS. 
          UM, AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, AND IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE WANT TO CREATE A POLICY THAT ALLOWS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO USE TOWN RESOURCES. 
          UM, NUMBER TWO, AS I SAID, UH, PROTECTION OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. 
          UM, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE NOT USED, UH, TO SUBSIDIZE CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY OR PROVIDE ELECTORAL ADVANTAGE. 
          UM, AND THIS IS ALL PRETTY BASIC, AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT PUBLIC FUNDS, UH, ARE COLLECTED FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES. 
          THEY SHOULDN'T BE USED FOR POLITICAL PROMOTION, NAME RECOGNITION, UM, CREATE EVEN THE APPEARANCE THAT PUBLIC RESOURCES ARE ADVANCING AND INDIVIDUALS ELECTORAL PROSPECTS. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY, AND AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALL UNDERSTAND, WE JUST WROTE IT DOWN, THE APPEARANCE OF PUBLICLY FUNDED CAMPAIGNING CAN UNDERMINE PUBLIC TRUST, UM, AS SIGNIFICANTLY AS ACTUAL VIOLATIONS. 
          SO, UM, REGARDLESS OF INTENT, IF SOMETHING APPEARS TO BE AN ELECTORAL SORT OF OR CAMPAIGN EVENT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT THE APPEARANCE OF THAT. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, JUST, UH, COVERING ALL OUR BLIND SPOTS, UM, MINIMIZING BURDEN ON THE TOWN, THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT WE SHOULD MINIMIZE THE BURDEN ON MUNICIPAL RESOURCES TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. 
          UM, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE CAME UP WITH AROUND THAT, WHICH ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS HOPING WE COULD DISCUSS TONIGHT ARE, UM, WHAT ARE THOSE MUNICIPAL RESOURCES, UH, STAFF TIME? IS THERE OVERTIME? IS THERE, WHERE ON EQUIPMENT ARE THERE OPPORTUNITY COSTS? BECAUSE STAFF IS DOING ONE THING, UM, THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO ANOTHER THING. 
          UM, WE WONDERED WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE TO CAP COSTS AND SAY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN USE STAFF RESOURCES UP TO A CERTAIN COST. 
          UM, WE WONDERED WHETHER THE USE SHOULD BE LIMITED TO ACTIVITIES THAT GENERATE NO ADDITIONAL COST. 
          AND SO ARE THESE EVENTS THAT ARE JUST SAYING, UH, IF STAFF ARE ALREADY WORKING, THEN THEY CAN BE PART OF THIS EVENT, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST. 
          AND SO THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. 
          UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GUARDRAILS IN PLACE SO THAT STAFF CAPACITY LIMITS OUR, UH, SORT OF RESPECTED SO THAT IF STAFF IS REALLY SUPER BUSY, UM, AND DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SUPPORT A COUNCIL MEMBER OF THAT. 
          AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S JUST CLEAR? UM, AGAIN, UH, CLEAR BOUNDARIES BETWEEN A COMMUNITY EVENT, UM, AND CAMPAIGNING. 
          UM, THIS IS A TRICKY ONE, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY INHERENTLY SUBJECTIVE. 
          UM, SO SOMETHING THAT I MIGHT THINK LOOKS LIKE A CAMPAIGN EVENT TO SOMEONE ELSE IS A COMMUNITY EVENT AND VICE VERSA. 
          UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THERE'S BEEN TENSION AROUND, UM, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, JUST IN TERMS OF HOW YOU BRAND SOMETHING, WHOSE PICTURE IS ON IT, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, AND SO THAT IS ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE JUST AROUND WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE THINK SIGNIFY A CAMPAIGN EVENT VERSUS A COMMUNITY EVENT. 
          UM, SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF THAT CAMPAIGN STYLE LOGOS, UM, PROMINENT PERSONAL IMAGERY, UM, JUST THINGS WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE DISCUSSED IS THAT WE HAVE AN AMAZING STAFF WHO ALWAYS WANNA SAY YES TO EVERYTHING, WHICH IS SO WONDERFUL, BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY FEEL EMPOWERED TO SAY NO. 
          UM, AS MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'RE KIND OF THEIR BOSSES, UM, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF POWER. 
          UM, AND SO EVEN IF LIKE SOMETHING DOES NOT SORT OF FOLLOW GUIDELINES OR THERE'S NO CAPACITY FOR THAT, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE GUARDRAILS IN PLACE SO THAT STAFF FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING NO TO ESSENTIALLY THEIR BOSS, SOMEONE WHO HAS POWER OVER THEIR, UM, YOU KNOW, SALARY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
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UM, AND AGAIN, THERE'S CURRENTLY NOT A POLICY, UH, SPECIFICALLY GOVERNING THIS. 
          AND SO AGAIN, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT. 
          POLITICAL NEUTRALITY, UM, TIMING, UH, APPEARANCE BASED RISK, EQUITY OF ACCESS, THOSE THINGS. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE IN, UH, ROMAN NUMERAL TWO. 
          SHOULD I JUST KEEP MOVING ON TO ROMAN NUMERAL TWO? BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE, THIS IS WHERE I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS. 
          DISCUSSION'S IN THE BEGINNING, ALL THAT ENTIRE DOCUMENT. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID MAYOR, RIGHT? DOCUMENT. 
          WELL, YES. 
          I MEAN THE QUESTION, DID YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK NOW AND DISCUSS THE FIRST PART BEFORE WE GO TO THE SECOND PART? I WOULD JUST GO LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM, DISCUSS THAT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          AND, AND THOSE, LIKE, THOSE WERE, THAT WAS JUST SORT OF THE INTRODUCTION. 
          THE LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM IS, IS HERE IN NUMBER TWO. 
          LIKE, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK, OR THAT THE COMMITTEE THINGS, THESE ARE THE CONSIDERATIONS. 
          LIKE THESE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO DISCUSS AND DECIDE. 
          I WOULD THINK THAT BASED ON IF YOU GO SCROLL UP, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ON, ARE YOU ON? YES, SIR. 
          I, I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU GO UP THE TOP OF IT, IT ACTUALLY HAS LINE ITEM, BULLET POINT, DISCUSSION POINTS. 
          BECAUSE I HUMBLY SAY SOME OF THAT IS REALLY SUBJECTIVE. 
          YOU SAY CAMPAIGNING. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S A SUBJECTIVE STATEMENT. 
          SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A DISCUSSION IN ITSELF, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          MOST OF IT IS SUBJECTIVE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE LIST OF THINGS TO, RIGHT. 
          SO I WAS LOOK, START AT ONE GOING DOWN TO DISCUSS THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT AS A WHOLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I MEAN, I, I, I GUESS I'LL, I'LL START AND JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVE MY REACTIONS TO WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR, WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY GOOD. 
          UM, I DO THINK THAT THE ANSWER SHOULD NOT BE NO. 
          UM, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A ROLE FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUTREACH EVENTS, UM, THAT HAVE OFFICIAL TOWN PARTICIPATION OF SOME KIND. 
          UM, I THINK, UM, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION. 
          I THINK, UM, I THINK THERE NEED TO BE PARAMETERS AROUND IT PROBABLY HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR, ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN BE A HEADLINER, UH, FOR AN EVENT. 
          I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE PARAMETERS AROUND EQUIPMENT LIKE CHAIR TABLES AND CHAIRS. 
          UM, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE PARAMETERS AROUND DESIGN OF FLYERS. 
          UM, MAYBE THAT STAFF SHOULD BE INVOLVED, SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED. 
          I COULD KIND OF LEAN TOWARDS, SHOULD NOT, BUT I CAN THINK ABOUT IT. 
          UM, AND THEN I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE, UH, A KIND OF, UM, LIMIT AMONG THE SEVEN OF US TO LIKE ONE A MONTH, RIGHT? OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF I SIGN UP FOR, UH, SO I ONLY GET ONE A YEAR OR SOMETHING, BUT IF I SIGN UP FOR MAY, THEN THEN MAY'S NOT AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY ELSE. 
          AND TANZI, IF HE WANTS TO DO ONE, HE'S GOTTA SIGN UP FOR JUNE OR JULY. 
          AND EVEN THAT IS CONTINGENT UPON MR. GALLOWAY SAYING, YEAH, WE HAVE THE, THE CAPACITY. 
          I MEAN, I THINK ON THE STAFF SIDE, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BEGIN AND END WITH THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR AND HE'S THE ONE THAT WE EMPOWER AND EXPECT TO SAY, NO, ACTUALLY DAVID JUNE'S NOT GONNA WORK FOR THESE REASONS. 
          YOUR OPTIONS ARE SEPTEMBER OR NOVEMBER. 
          ANYWAY, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S MY NICKEL VIEW. 
          UM, DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COME IN AT THIS POINT? ? YEAH. 
          UM, NUMBER ONE, THI I'M GLAD THAT WE FINALLY GOT A DOCUMENT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR IT FOR A WHILE. 
          UM, WE, MY OPINION IS THAT WE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE REPRESENT THE TOWN, AND PART OF THAT IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE BASIC, UM, FUNDAMENTAL THINGS THAT WE DO AS A, WE WE PASS LEGISLATION. 
          BUT THE LEVEL, ESPECIALLY HOW, HOW SHELBY IS THAT WE REPRESENT SHELBY FROM A LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THAT THAT ONLY CAN BE TRULY DONE WITH THE HELP OF OUR AMAZING STAFF HERE. 
          UM, I DO BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE PARAMETERS. 
          THE MAIN ONES DEAL MORE WITH THE FACT OF CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY USING PUBLIC RESOURCES, UM, BASED ON THAT DOCUMENT. 
          THAT'S A VERY VAGUE, UH, STATEMENT. 
          UM, THE VAGUE ASPECT, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU PUT IT THERE. 
          UM, YOU DID MENTION ABOUT SINCE YOU'VE BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT, UM, NO ONE'S FACE HAS BEEN ON ANY TYPE OF, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          I DID DO RESEARCH, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. 
          DID YOU NOT SAY ON FLYERS OR ON I SAID THAT THAT HAS BEEN A, AN ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT ON, ON THERE IT DOES BENCH YOU. 
          BUT YOU SAID UNDER YOUR, UNDER, UNDER YOUR TIME THAT THAT HAS 
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NOT, YOU SAID THAT IT HAS NOT. 
          I SAID THAT IT, IT HAS, IT IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, LIKE A SOURCE OF TENSION. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          BUT I, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. 
          YOU SAID YOU DID NOT SEE THAT WHILE YOU WERE A COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          I DIDN'T SAY THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, BUT IT DOES SAY IN THE DOCUMENT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHETHER, UH, SOMEONE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER'S FACE, RIGHT? WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. 
          THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN FRY, COUNCILMAN GAR HAVE DONE EVENTS. 
          UM, THEY'RE FACED ON IT. 
          UM, OUR MAYOR HAS DONE SEVERAL EVENTS, UH, REGARDING THEIR FACE ON VARIOUS, UH, FLYERS. 
          AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT THAT HAS BEEN A PRECEDENT AT A PRECEDENT ON THE COUNTY LEVEL. 
          UM, YEAH, I, I MEAN, I, I WOULD, AND THEN I'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER GARCIA. 
          I MEAN, I, I WOULD SAY I JUST, THAT IS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE GRAY AREAS. 
          BUT, OR, OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SUBJECTIVE. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S PRACTICAL TO NOT USE COUNCIL MEMBER TANZIS NAME AND HIS IMAGE FOR HIS PUBLIC OUTREACH EVENT. 
          DOES IT FEEL A LITTLE CAMPAIGNING? MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE IT SHOULDN'T BE LIKE AFTER FEBRUARY OF AN ELECTION YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT, BUT, BUT I, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU AVOID IT. 
          SO, COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M NOT, I'M NOT MAYOR GO AHEAD. 
          GO ON. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AND I DON'T SEE IF, IF IT IS, IF IT IS A SITUATION WHERE IS AN ELECTION SEASON, UM, WE STILL HAVE A JOB TO DO. 
          UM, SO SAY IF I'M NOT RUNNING AGAIN AND IT'S, UH, DECEMBER AND I PUT ON A CHRISTMAS EVENT, THAT'S MY MONTH TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WHY, WHY WOULD YOU NOT DO THAT? I AM STILL IN MY POSITION, OR WE ALL ARE STILL IN OUR POSITION TO DO THAT. 
          SO THAT'S ONE ASPECT OF THAT. 
          BUT THE OTHER PART IS, AND WE ALL SEE THIS HERE, IS THAT OUR VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS ARE VERY LIMITED. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S RECENT. 
          UM, WE CAN SAY THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT SITUATIONS THAT ARE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          UH, MAYBE IT'S BE PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS. 
          SO PEOPLE ARE MORE ENCLOSED. 
          IT IS OUR DUTY AND IT SHOULD BE AN OBLIGATION, US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO WORK WITH SHELBY VI VILLAGE, TO WORK WITH W WOMEN'S CLUB, TO WORK WITH THESE, THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ENFORCING IN MANY WAYS ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THE FACT THEY DON'T EITHER HAVE THE MANPOWER. 
          AND WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. 
          NOT SAYING JUST THE TOWN, BUT OUR, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRIDGE TO BE THE BRIDGE THE GAP, UM, TO GO OUT TO EN ENGAGE AND PARTNER WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          PERFECT EXAMPLE, JUST USING MY EVENT, UM, BECAUSE I WAS NOT ALLOWED, UH, BECAUSE OF A, UH, THREAT OF, UH, OF, UH, A SITUATION OF ETHICS. 
          UM, I HAD, UH, AT MY COMMUNITY EVENT LAST YEAR, I HAD THE, THE, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THE NEW ELECT, THE NEW ELECTED FIRE CHIEF, UH, THE, THE SHERIFF, THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT. 
          BUT GUESS WHAT? MY ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MY CHIEF, MY DEPUTY CHIEF, WEREN'T THERE FOR OUR RESIDENCE AT CH. 
          THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. 
          WE, WE, WE HAVE OUTSIDERS WHO ARE ABLE TO ATTEND EVENTS, BUT BECAUSE OF QUOTE UNQUOTE SAYING IT'S A POLITICAL EVENT OR IT'S AN ETHICS ASPECT, THEY'RE LEFT OUT IN THE COLD. 
          NOT ONLY DOES IT MAKE SHELBY LOOK BAD, BUT IT MAKES OUR CHIEF LOOK BAD. 
          AND WITH THE RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE, AND WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT ULTIMATELY IS THE RESIDENTS, THE CONSTITUENTS ARE THE ONE THAT'S HURT THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HURT IN REGARDING THAT. 
          UM, SO, UM, IT, IT REALLY GO BOILS DOWN TO THAT US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE A OBLIGATION. 
          AND A SIDE NOTE, THE NEXT NOTE TO THAT IS ALSO THE FACT THAT IF WE'RE NOT ALLOWED, WE ARE A PART OF THE TOWN NOT TO USE WE TOWN OR TOWN RESOURCES. 
          WHY SHOULD SHELBY DAY USE TOWN RESOURCES? WE'RE PART OF TOWN. 
          WE ARE, WE ARE LITERALLY PART OF TOWN. 
          I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD NOT, 'CAUSE I I'M SUPPORT OF SHELBY DAY, I, I SPONSORED IT OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION, CPRC, THEY USE THE RESOURCES. 
          UM, SHELBY PROM, THEY USE THE RESOURCES. 
          SO WHY WOULD WE NOT AS BEING A PART OF THE TOWN, A, A EXTENSION OF THE TOWN AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE FACE OF THE TOWN THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE USING RESOURCES TO DO TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT TO DO THAT. 
          ARE YOU BACK? CAN I RESPOND REAL QUICK? UM, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DO YOU MIND WAITING FOR NICOLE? OKAY. 
          PLEASE. 
          WE'LL GO TO NICOLE AND THEN CHARLIE. 
          AND THEN I'M NOT SURE IF DAVID WANTED TO COME IN. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE, FOR THE MOST PART WE AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I AGREE THAT WHAT HAPPENED WITH YOUR EVENT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE IS SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A POLICY SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          UM, THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS DOCUMENT AND, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT WRITTEN CLEARLY. 
          THERE'S NO OPINION IN THIS DOCUMENT. 
          IT'S A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WE THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN ORDER TO TRY TO AVOID HAVING WHAT HAPPENED, HAPPEN AGAIN. 
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UM, THERE HAS BEEN TENSION IN THE PAST AND WE FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN ALL TALK AND COME TO SOME AGREEMENTS, THEN WE CAN AVOID THAT AND HAVE A SMOOTH SITUATION GOING FORWARD WHERE WHAT HAPPENED DOESN'T HAPPEN. 
          SO I JUST, IT FEEL LIKE NOBODY DISAGREES WITH THAT. 
          I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THE FACT THAT THAT, THAT BEING THE CASE THERE IS, THERE IS A FACT THAT THE EVENT, UM, PEOPLE, INDIVIDUALS THAT DID NOT AGREE WITH HAVING THE EVENT IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          SO THERE, THERE ARE VERY MUCH QUESTIONS AND EVEN YOU VICE MAYOR HAD QUESTIONS REGARDING MY EVENT, YES OR NO? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY QUESTIONS? DID YOU NOT HAVE QUESTIONS, CONCERNS REGARDING MY EVENT? DID YOU NOT BRING THAT TO THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR? REGARDING THE, THE, WHAT I'VE DONE REGARDING MY, MY COMMUNITY DAY EVENT IN THE PAST, LIKE, I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP GENERALLY AS A, HEY, THIS IS A GRAY AREA. 
          SO THEN YOU HAVE, SO THERE ARE CONCERNS REGARDING THE EVENT. 
          THERE'S A, IT'S A GRAY AREA. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS USING TOWN RESOURCES WAS A GRAY AREA BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A POLICY YEAH. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA DEGRADE. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS LET'S HAVE A POLICY SO WE CAN HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS USE TOWN RESOURCES MOVING FORWARD. 
          I I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT AGAIN, OTHER INDIVIDUALS HAVE HAD EVENTS WHERE THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT YEAH. 
          THEY HAVE DONE AND THE EVENT STILL OCCURRED WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE TOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT HASN'T, YES, EXACTLY. 
          IT HASN'T BEEN CONSISTENT IN THE PAST. 
          IT'S HAS NOT BEEN UNIFORMLY APPLIED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE WANT IT TO BE CONSISTENT MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, AND, AND FACTUALLY TRUE THERE. 
          AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE NEED TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE IT DOES PUT THE STAFF IN A TERRIBLE POSITION OF SAYING, HEY. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, MM. 
          SO YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          LET, LET'S GET TO, UH, LET'S PUT THE POLITICS INSIDE AND GET THE POLICY AND THE WORK BECAUSE WE NEED A POLICY SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH HAVING SOME TYPE OF, UH, FUNCTIONS LIKE THIS SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT AT THE END OF THE DAY, , AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT OR WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE SAME THING THAT, OR WHATEVER WE CAN REPORT SUPPORT US OR APPROVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOME GUARDRAILS AROUND THIS AS FAR AS WHEN YOU APPLY, UM, UH, FOR A PERMIT FOR A COUNCIL TO USE TOWN RESOURCES, UH, BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH VARIOUS CHALLENGES OF GOING THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, GOING THROUGH THE POLI PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PULL IN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, UH, FROM TIME TO TIME. 
          SO YES, YES TO ALL OF THE ABOVE. 
          I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET TO. 
          ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER GARCES, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER WADE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST GONNA LET THIS RIDE, RIGHT? I WAS JUST GONNA SEE HOW THINGS GO, RIGHT? YOU GUYS HEARING THIS POLICY THING, BUT I WANT, I WANT ASK YOU A QUESTION. 
          I WHAT, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT EVENT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THAT THAT, THAT MY FACE HAS BEEN ON IN THE PAST. 
          EXACTLY. 
          I HAVE A COPY IF YOU WANT IT, BUT YEAH, YEAH, PLEASE, PLEASE REMIND ME. 
          2023. 
          YOU DID YOU AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FRY DID A TRUNK OR TREAT EVENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOUR FACE IS ON BOTH OF YOUR FACES. 
          ON OKAY. 
          AND IT AND IT AND IT, UM, AND WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT SAY? THE TOWN OF CH SPONSORED BY TOWN OF CH SPONSORED BY MY OWN PERSONAL BUSINESS. 
          RIGHT, BUT YET YOU'RE STILL USING OUR, OUR TOWN OF RESOURCES. 
          THAT'S ONE, UH, TWO YOU, UH, CLAIM ON THE, ON THE YOU YOU'RE ASKING ME TO RESPOND TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, NO. 
          I DIDN'T ASK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE. 
          I'M JUST, I'M YOU ASKING ME A QUESTION? WELL, I'M ASKING MULTIPLE QUESTIONS. 
          YOU, YOU'RE ASKING ME A QUESTION. 
          MAY COULD WE GET THE QUORUM PLEASE? ARE YOU ASKING THE QUESTION OR ARE YOU MAKING A STATEMENT? THE CORUM PLEASE. 
          IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE GONNA ONLY TALK ONE AT A TIME. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GARCES HAS THE FLOOR. 
          AND, UM, ALSO I SEE THE, SO SOME OF THE, I GUESS THE NEWSLETTER THAT YOU PUT OUT STATING THAT THESE HAVE BEEN, UH, UH, ALL TOWN ENGAGEMENT, UM, NOT ONCE HAVE WARD FIVE GOTTEN AN OUTREACH OF ANY OF YOUR EVENTS? I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          I'M THE COUNCILMAN FOR THERE, BUT EVEN MYSELF, I KNOW I'VE ASKED YOU MULTIPLE TIMES FOR FLYERS, NONE OF THAT. 
          SO I I I DO LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, THAT IS NOT TRUE. 
          UM, THERE'S STILL BEEN NO, MY WORD HAS NO IDEA OF ANY OF THESE BLOCK PARTIES. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          I GOT, CAN I RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION QUICKLY? YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GAR SAYS, DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT MY FIRST EVER EVENT, I LITERALLY WALKED DOOR TO DOOR WITH YOU WITH FLYERS FOR OVER TWO HOURS IN THE EVENING FOR MY COMMUNITY WAR ONE EVENT. 
          SECOND DO NOT, DO YOU NOT REMEMBER? YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT. 
          SO IS THAT NOT, BUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT IS THAT, IS THAT NOT DOOR TO DOOR ENGAGEMENT WITH WARD FIVE? YEAH. 
          BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLAIMING THAT ALL YOUR EVENTS 
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ARE RIGHT? YOU SAID WHAT? YOU'RE HE'S SAYING THAT, UM, MAYOR, I'M GONNA ASK FOR AGAIN DECOR. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S VERY DISTRACTING. 
          WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA SHOUT FROM THE AUDIENCE. 
          JOHN FIGURED IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT CHURCH. 
          WE'RE NOT, NOBODY'S GETTING SAVED IN HERE. 
          THE LORD'S NOT MOVING IN THIS ROOM. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SO, SO I, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS YOU DID THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY WANNA GO DOWN THIS ROAD, BUT LIKE WHAT HE'S SAYING IS YOU DID IT ONCE AND THEN YOU DIDN'T DO IT FOR SUBSEQUENT EVENTS. 
          IS THAT FAIR? I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, THIS IS ALL YOU, YOU NEED ALL WARDS, RIGHT? NO, IT, IT WAS A WARD ONE EVENT. 
          IT'S CALLED SHELBY WARD ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I, I EXTENDED A OLIVE. 
          SO IF YOU'RE DOING A, IF, IF, IF COUNCIL MEMBER IC IS DOING A WARD TWO BLOCK PARTY EVENT MM-HMM . 
          I DON'T EXPECT FOR HIM, FOR ME TO ALWAYS, FOR HIM TO EXPECT HIM TO COME TO WARD ONE AND SAY, I NEED YOU AND YOU NEED TO HELP ME WITH MY WARD TWO EVENT, YOUR WARD TWO RESIDENTS TO COME TO MY EVENT. 
          OKAY. 
          I DID THAT. 
          AGAIN, AGAIN, LET'S CLARIFY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I DID DO THAT WITH YOU. 
          MY FIRST EVER EVENT MM-HMM . 
          WE SPENT OVER TWO, THREE HOURS KNOCKING ON EVERY SINGLE DOOR MM-HMM . 
          WHILE LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS THAT YOUR RESIDENTS HAD, WHILE ALSO IF YOU WOULD'VE EXTENDED THE OLIVE RANCH, WE FED OVER 500 PEOPLE AT MY WARD ONE DAY EVENT WITH SEVERAL OF YOUR, YOUR CONSTITUENTS COULD HAVE TOOK PART IN. 
          SO IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET. 
          YOU DIDN'T EVEN ATTEND THE EVENT. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          'CAUSE I MEAN, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. 
          I MEAN, I HAVE OTHER PRIOR ENGAGEMENTS. 
          RIGHT? OKAY. 
          SO, SO WE, WE HAVE FULL-TIME JOBS, BUT I GET THAT, I'LL GIVE YOU THAT RIGHT. 
          PRIOR ENGAGEMENT, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE I, I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING, RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, BUT YOU'RE ATTACK, YOU'RE ATTACKING MY CHARACTER. 
          NO, I'M NOT ATTACKING YOU. 
          I NEVER SAID ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU ASK YOUR QUESTION. 
          WELL, I WANT CLARIFICATION, WHICH WITH YOUR RIGHT, YOU'RE, BECAUSE YOU'RE, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN, IN A, IN SUCH A POSITION, RIGHT? LIKE YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO ATTACK IT. 
          WE'RE NOT. 
          WE WE'RE JUST NOT. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND I, AND I'M TELLING YOU, 'CAUSE I'M PART OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE, RIGHT. 
          AND A LOT OF THIS YES. 
          I, I PROBABLY DON'T AGREE WITH IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT HAS TO BE PLACED POLICY REGARDLESS. 
          SO LET'S CLARIFY. 
          I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING A POLICY IN PLACE. 
          GOOD. 
          I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS EVERY SINCE MY EVENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WAS JULY. 
          SO IT IS, IT IS ALMOST MARCH NOW. 
          SO JUST, I GUESS JUST FOR MY OWN CLARIFICATION, RIGHT. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, WELL, I PERSONALLY NOT TRYING TO ATTACK YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU, YOU BROUGHT ME UP, RIGHT, BECAUSE YOUR FACE WAS ON. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT BUT I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, YOU BROUGHT ME UP. 
          RIGHT? BECAUSE YOUR FACE, WITH THAT BEING SAID, FOR CLARIFICATION FOR MY OWN SELF, WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT? LIKE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT WITH ALL THIS? LIKE, LIKE WHAT'S THE POINT OF LIKE I DON'T HAVE AN ARGUMENT. 
          I, I, AFTER MY JULY EVENT, I ASKED FOR THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE STILL HAVE NOT PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, BUT IT'S HERE. 
          NOW. 
          I'M IN, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH SEVERAL ASPECTS OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M USING MY CASE STUDY OF MY EVENT. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE IT WAS MY EVENT THAT WAS AFFECTED MM-HMM . 
          WHICH QUITE FRANKLY HAS BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S, IT IS NOT AN ASPECT, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. 
          IT NEEDS TO GET DONE. 
          WE HAVE BEEN KICKING THIS DOWN THE, THE CAN DOWN THE STREET FOR WAY TOO LONG, REGARDLESS, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY MY, MY ARGUMENT, MY, MY, MY EMOTIONS IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT SERVING THE RESIDENTS LIKE WE SHOULD. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE OF THIS. 
          THEY'RE NOT BEING, THEY'RE NOT BEING, THEY'RE NOT BEING, WE'RE NOT MEETING THEM WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU AND I BOTH SHOULD KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE BOTH LIVE IN AREAS THAT HAS BEEN MARGINALIZED MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT HAS NOT TRADITIONALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN SURE. 
          AS A WHOLE MM-HMM . 
          SO BOTH OF BOTH OF US SHOULD KNOW THAT FROM A STANDPOINT. 
          SO I'M IN FAVOR OF REGARDING THIS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GUIDELINES ARE, ARE TRUE TO NATURE. 
          AND STATING THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN NO PRECEDENT DONE BEFORE REGARDING A LOT OF THIS. 
          IT HAS BEEN A PRECEDENT IN THIS TOWN REGARDING IT, THAT'S ALL. 
          SO, I, I THINK ONE, TWO GOOD IDEAS I HEARD WAS ONE WAS EVERY EVENT THAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL DOES HAS TO BE OPEN TO THE ENTIRE TOWN. 
          I THINK, I MEAN THAT'S OBVIOUS, BUT WE SHOULD WRITE THAT DOWN. 
          AND NUMBER TWO, THERE SHOULD BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE FOR HOW WIDELY THE SPONSORING ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD ADVERTISE THEIR EVENT. 
          I'M NOT AS SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT SH YOU SHOULDN'T BE LAZY ABOUT IT. 
          IS, IS KIND OF WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          AND I, I DON'T WE'LL FIND A WAY TO PUT SOME MEAT BEHIND THAT RECOMMENDATION OR THAT REQUIREMENT. 
          BUT YOU OUGHTA, THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OUGHT TO EXPEND A LOT OF ENERGY TO GET MAXIMUM ADVERTISING. 
          OKAY. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. TANZIS BEEN VERY PATIENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I, I APPRECIATE THE ASSUMPTION COUNTERPOINT MODEL. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO PROVOKE A DISCUSSION. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          IT'S, IT'S TO ENCOURAGE A DISCUSSION. 
          UM, IT SEEMS THAT WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND PROBABLY TOWN ADMINISTRATOR CAN SPEAK TO THIS MORE THAN ANYONE, WHAT WE MIGHT CALL THE PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY 
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OF THE TOWN ON, UM, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS. 
          'CAUSE EVEN WHEN WE START THROWING OUT NUMBERS LIKE ONCE A YEAR, ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS, WHATEVER NUMBER YOU WANT TO COME UP WITH, I WASN'T LOOKING AT HIS FACE, BUT HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ROLLING HIS EYES SAYING, DO WE REALLY WANT TO COMMIT THAT MANY PEOPLE? OR HOW DO WE SET IT UP SO THAT THEY CAN SAY NO AS OFTEN AS THEY WANT? RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE MAYBE THEY, I WAS JUST THINKING ACTUALLY WHEN YOU WERE DESCRIBING YOUR EVENT COUNCIL MEMBER WADE, IT'S LIKE, WOW, FROM WHAT MICAH JUST SAID, MAYBE WE ALL HAVE ONE OF THESE AND THESE POOR POLICE CHIEF AND DEPUTY CHIEF ARE COMING OUT EVERY OTHER WEEKEND. 
          RIGHT? LIKE THERE IS SOME POINT WHERE IT BECOMES, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA SAY ABSURD SOUNDS TOO JUDGMENTAL, BUT BEYOND WHAT IS REASONABLE, RIGHT. 
          BURDENSOME, RIGHT. 
          UH, SO I DO THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME SENSE OF WHAT, UH, THE PERSONNEL CAPACITY IS. 
          OBVIOUSLY I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY NO ONE IS EVER OBLIGATED TO GO TO THESE THINGS LIKE SPECIFIC PEOPLE. 
          WE WANT THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU COULD SAY A POLICE PRESENCE THERE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          THE LEADERSHIP IS NOW COMMITTED TO EVERY SINGLE THING. 
          AND THEN, AND I SAY THAT IN HUMAN TERMS FIRST BECAUSE THAT'S PEOPLE WHO NOW HAVE TO WORK BEYOND THEIR NORMAL SCOPE OF WORK. 
          AND THEN SECOND IS THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A BUDGET FOR ANY OF THIS, WHICH MEANS WE NEED TO HAVE REAL NUMBERS ABOUT WHAT THESE TYPES OF THINGS COST. 
          AND THAT'S PROBABLY A LINE ITEM THAT THEN HAS TO BE ADDRESSED EVERY FISCAL YEAR TO SAY, HEY, CAN WE DO THIS? AND DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE RULES? 'CAUSE WHENEVER WE HAVE A, A TIGHT YEAR, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE HONEST, I WOULD THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE PRETTY HIGH ON, ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK OF THINGS. 
          YOU SHOULD BE, UH, CUTTING. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NOT AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE. 
          SO I THINK WE CAN KEEP THIS PRACTICAL AND PRODUCTIVE BY TRYING TO, TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE, UH, REALLY HIGH LEVEL THINGS THAT MIGHT LIMIT THE DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT SO THAT IT'S DOESN'T GET TOO FAR RANGING TO SAY, HEY, WHAT IS PRACTICAL? NOW THERE ARE BASIC ETHICS QUESTIONS LIKE SHOULD WE GET MONEY FOR ANY OF THIS STUFF ANYWAY? AND WHAT SHOULD TOWN GROUPS GET ACCESS TO? 'CAUSE IF WE GET MONEY, DOES THAT MEAN 'CAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER WADE SPOKE ABOUT C VILLAGE OR WHOMEVER? WELL, IS THE SOLUTION TO GIVE US ACCESS TO THAT? OR IS THE SOLUTION TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT? RIGHT? BUT THAT, THAT BECOMES ANOTHER PERSONNEL ISSUE AND ANOTHER BUDGET ISSUE, RIGHT? SO THAT AGAIN, IS, IS THE WORRY IS IF WE CREATE SOMETHING AND WE THEN SAY WHOEVER GETS IT SHOULD BE OPEN TO ALL COMMUNITY GROUPS, UH, THEN, THEN WE GO BACK TO THE PERSONNEL ISSUE, RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENS IF CHEVROLET VILLAGE DECIDES THAT WE REALLY WANT A COMMUNITY DAY? UM, AND SO DOES WOMEN'S CLUB AND EVERYONE ELSE. 
          SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF THE TOWN BROADLY AND THEN MAKE SURE WE LIVE IN A REASONABLE WAY WITHIN THAT. 
          AND THEN WE CAN WORRY ABOUT WHAT CAN OF WORMS WE'VE OPENED, IF WE, YOU KNOW, OPEN THIS DOOR FOR ONE PERSON, DO WE, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE WE OPENING IT UP FOR, UM, FOR EVERYONE? UM, AND THEN, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MOST OF THESE ARE ALREADY ADDRESSED IN YOUR DOCUMENT. 
          AND THEN THERE ARE QUESTIONS LIKE, THEN DOES EVERYONE, EVERY EVENT HAVE TO BE VOTED ON OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          LIKE C DAY WE SUPPORT, BUT WE ALSO CHOOSE TO SUPPORT IT, RIGHT? THAT IS AN OFFICIAL TOWN DECLARATION, RIGHT? IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE THINK PROCEDURALLY THROUGH THAT, WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS PRODUCTIVELY. 
          ALRIGHT, SO IT IS NINE 12. 
          UM, I DON'T WANNA SPEND MORE THAN ANOTHER 10 MINUTES ON THIS ITEM AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC YET. 
          SO I WANT TO QUICKLY, UM, UH, HEAR FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, THE VICE MAYOR'S GONNA RUN THROUGH THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT ALL IN THE NEXT NINE MINUTES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER FRY AND COUNCIL MEMBER LEG. 
          HECK, THANK YOU. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU VICE MAYOR FOR PUTTING TOGETHER ALL OF OUR NOTES. 
          UM, SO WELL, UH, AS WE WERE GOING OVER SOME OF THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS, UM, IT WASN'T JUST YOUR EVENT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, WE WERE LOOKING AT OTHER EVENTS. 
          WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR OWN EVENTS. 
          WE WERE LOOKING AT OVERALL LIKE EVEN TOWN ORGANIZATION EVENTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE MANY OF THE QUESTIONS CAME FROM. 
          ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS IN MY FIRST TERM THAT I QUICKLY LEARNED, UM, FROM ACTUALLY OUR FORMER MAYOR WAS WHEN WE WERE REQUESTED TO PUT UP A PRIDE FLAG AND EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL WANTED TO DO IT AND WE WANTED TO RAISE THE PRIDE FLAG, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICY AND FLAG POLICY. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE A FLAG POLICY. 
          AND WE WERE LIKE, BUT WE'RE ALL IN 
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AGREEMENT. 
          WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS? AND IT WAS LIKE, BECAUSE WHAT IF SOMEBODY WHO COMES AND THEN THEY WANNA PUT UP A DIFFERENT FLAG THAT NOT ALL OF US AGREE WITH, WE CAN GET IN TROUBLE. 
          AND SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A POLICY FIRST TYPE OF THING WHERE WE TRY TO CREATE THE POLICY SO THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS TO OURSELVES AS WELL AS TO STAFF OF LIKE WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT DO. 
          AND WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT, AND WE PROBABLY WENT WAY TOO LONG WITHOUT HAVING THAT. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT IS THE ISSUE NOW WHEN IT, I, I GET A LOT OF MY REFERENCES FROM JUST WHERE I WORK AND IN THE COUNTY THERE'S A VERY CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHETHER YOU CAN USE YOUR CAMPAIGN LOGO OR YOUR OFFICIAL LOGO. 
          UM, ANYTHING WE DO FOR COUNTY THAT INVOLVES COUNTY RESOURCES, WHICH IS TYPICALLY MONEY, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BUDGET FOR EVENTS. 
          UM, FLYERS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY LEGAL. 
          LIKE IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST DO. 
          THERE'S A PROCESS. 
          YOU CAN'T GET REIMBURSED FOR AN EVENT UNLESS YOUR FLYER IS PROCESSED BY LEGAL. 
          UM, AND THEN THEY, THEY LOOK AT THE TYPES OF EVENT, BUT WE ARE LIMITED IN WHAT OTHER TYPES OF COUNTY RESOURCES WE CAN USE. 
          UM, AND, AND THERE'S SOME GUIDELINES THERE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE A BUDGET PER SE AT THIS POINT FOR WHAT EACH OF US CAN DO WHEN IT COMES TO OUTREACH. 
          I THINK WE USED TO HAVE, OR WE STILL HAVE LIKE A $200 STIPEND A YEAR THAT COULD BE USED FOR, OKAY, WELL WE DID, WE HAD A $200 STIPEND, WE GET $50 A QUARTER AND WE COULD USE THAT FOR OUTREACH. 
          RIGHT? THAT WAS KIND OF OUR LIKE LITTLE, AND I THINK, UM, OUR FIRST YEAR TOO, MOST OF US USE IT FOR OUR SHARING AND CARING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I I WILL SAY FROM A MAYOR PROBABLY USE MORE THAN THAT, UM, FOR THAT EVENT. 
          AND SO WE DON'T, YEAH, I GUESS IT'S OUR SALARIES, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT CLEAR DISTINCTION OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAN OR CANNOT USE. 
          UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE PAST, WHATEVER THE COMMUNITY HAS ACCESS TO IN THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HAD MORE ACCESS THAN INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE. 
          SO IF YOU WERE A TOWN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, YOU DID HAVE ACCESS TO CERTAIN THINGS, BUT YOU HAD TO BE A TOWN ORGANIZATION. 
          YOU COULDN'T JUST BE ANY ORGANIZATION. 
          AND SO I THINK FOR SOME PEOPLE, THAT'S WHY THEY BECOME TOWN ORGANIZATIONS SO THAT THEY CAN GET ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY, LIKE RESOURCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE AN EVENT AND HOLD SOMETHING. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS EVER GIVEN TO US. 
          I THINK EVEN HAVING, UM, THERE WAS A MAYOR'S HOUR WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WITH, WE WERE LIKE, EVEN AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE LIKE A COUNCIL MEMBER HOUR. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING WE DIDN'T HAVE A SPOT IN THE NEWSLETTER AS A COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          AND THAT WAS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE ENDED UP DOING BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED IT AND WE'RE LIKE, HEY, THAT WOULD BE NICE TO DO. 
          SO ALL OF THESE THINGS GO TO THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT. 
          WE JUST NEED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR. 
          AND WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY'S GETTING IN TROUBLE, RIGHT? SO THE WAY THAT, UM, AND, AND IN OUR CONVERSATION HERE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIKE WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT ARE THE, LIKE THE STICKING POINTS AND THEN LIKE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR THERE BECAUSE THEN IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR MR. GALLOWAY OR FOR WHOEVER IN STAFF OR EVEN MR. DELOACH WHEN HE'S LOOKING AT WHATEVER WE'RE PRESENTING TO BE LIKE, HEY, THIS VIOLATES THE POLICY RIGHT THERE. 
          CAN YOU FIX THIS? CAN YOU DO THAT? AND IT CAN PROVIDE GUIDELINES BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, THIS IS WHAT I WAS TOLD AT THE COUNTY AT LEAST, THAT THE ETHICS COMMISSION AT THE COUNTY, THEY'RE NOT THERE TO GET YOU IN TROUBLE. 
          THEY'RE THERE TO HELP YOU STAY OUT OF TROUBLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK TO THAT SENSE TOO, IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO, WE SHOULD BE USING THOSE RESOURCES, OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, OUR ETHICS COMMISSION SO THAT THEY CAN HELP US TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE ANY BLURRED LINES, THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING, UM, DOESN'T BLUR THEM MORE. 
          OR YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE THAT AND WE CAN SAY, HEY, WE FOLLOWED THE STEPS SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE CHECKED OFF ALL THE BOXES. 
          SO I THINK IF WE CAN GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS HERE, UM, AND LOOK, THERE IS NO DEFINITION IN OUR CODE ABOUT WHAT'S CAMPAIGN NOT CAMPAIGN. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING AT THE COUNTY IS YOU HAVE A CAMPAIGN LOGO AND YOU HAVE YOUR COUNTY, SO YOU HAVE A COUNTY SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU HAVE YOUR CAMPAIGN, SOCIAL MEDIA, THOSE THINGS ARE KEPT SEPARATE. 
          THE EMAILS ARE KEPT SEPARATE. 
          NOTHING CAN LEAD TO YOUR, UM, DONATE TO ME THINGS ON YOUR COUNTY STUFF. 
          SO LIKE WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION JUST TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR SO THAT WE KNOW. 
          AND THE GOAL IS NOT TO GET PEOPLE IN TROUBLE, RIGHT? I THINK THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE JUST ALL DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AND SO THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF. 
          SO LIKE, YEAH. 
          AND I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I THINK WHATEVER WE DO, IF WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THIS, WE NEED TO HAVE A BUDGET FOR IT. 
          THERE NEEDS TO BE A DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT, JOHN. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I AM GLAD TO BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. 
          AS I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, I MEAN, I WAS CONTINUED TO BE BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT WHAT APPEARED TO BE ONLY HALF OF THE COUNCIL HAVING 
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THIS DISCUSSION WITHOUT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL PROVIDING THIS INPUT. 
          SO I'M GLAD TO BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION OUT IN THE OPEN. 
          UM, I'M PICKING UP ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI SAID. 
          I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHATEVER POLICY COMES OUT OF THIS, WE NEED TO ALSO BE ABLE TO APPLY THIS POLICY TO OUR TOWN ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT, AND WHATEVER EVENTS WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS HOLD, WHETHER WE SAY, OKAY, THIS IS BEING DONE IN COORDINATION WITH X ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY SHOULD NOT BE DENIED THE FRAMEWORK OF THE TOWN'S, YOU KNOW, SUPPLIES AS WELL. 
          SO THAT THEREFORE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE FOR ALL OF THE TOWN ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE TWO POINTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          VICE MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD? I JUST WANT TO, WE HAVE THE SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT PROCESS FOR TOWN ORGANIZATIONS, UM, AND COMMITTEES. 
          SO THEY DO HAVE ACCESS TO TOWN RESOURCES WHEN REQUESTED IF APPROVED. 
          SO YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD REMINDER. 
          WE, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLAY FOR, FOR THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLAY FOR THE POLITICALS IF YOU KNOW ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          YES. 
          IT'S THE POLITE TERM. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          KEEP ROLLING. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, THE, THE POLICY COMMITTEE DOES NOT MAKE DECISIONS AT ALL OR, OR DISCUSS HOW THINGS SHOULD BE. 
          WE TAKE THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AND PUT IT INTO WORDS SO THAT WE CAN ALL TALK ABOUT THE WORDS AND WHETHER THE WORDS ARE REFLECTING WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS IT TO BE. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN THIS DOCUMENT. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK I'M GONNA GET THROUGH THEM IN THE EIGHT MINUTES THAT YOU PROVIDED. 
          UM, YOU'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SECTION TWO? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL, LET'S TOUCH ON THEM. 
          PUT THEM OUT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN TOUCH ON, WELL, LET'S TOUCH ON SOME OF THEM. 
          UM, AND MAYBE IT'S A LIKE THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN ON WHETHER WE THINK THIS SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE POLICY, BUT LIKE, LET'S LOOK AT B UM, WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTION RELATED SAFEGUARDS, SHOULD THERE BE BLACKOUT PERIODS BEFORE ELECTION DAY OR BEFORE A FILING DEADLINE? PROBABLY CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE GONNA BE A CANDIDATE. 
          YEAH, I THINK IF YOU, YOU'RE RETIRING, MAYBE IT'S, THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FOR RETIRING. 
          I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. 
          I MEAN THAT'S PROBABLY ITS OWN FROM OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE TO DECLARE YOUR CANDIDACY, UH, 'CAUSE THAT COULD BE DONE POORLY. 
          BUT YEAH, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A BLACKOUT. 
          AND THEN I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU PULL OFF THE, IF YOU'RE NOT RUNNING AGAIN UNTIL THE 45 DAYS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING. 
          'CAUSE YOU COULD CHANGE YOUR MIND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, IF AN EVENT IS SUPPORTED BY TOWN RESOURCES IN SOME WAY, SHOULD THERE BE A PROHIBITION AGAINST THERE BEING CAMPAIGN MATERIALS OR OTHER FUNDRAISING OR SOLICITATION AT THAT EVENT? YES. 
          YES. 
          GREAT. 
          MONEY AND VOTES. 
          YES. 
          AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WORK, MIKE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TOWN ORGANIZATIONS RIGHT NOW, BUT, AND I WASN'T THERE. 
          CHEVROLET DAY IS ITS OWN THING. 
          WHEN THEY DO GET A LOT OF LIKE MONEY DURING THAT TIME FOR THEIR, THAT HELPS TO SUBSIDIZE. 
          THIS IS NOT ABOUT CHEVROLET DAY. 
          CHEVROLET DAY HAS LOTS OF POLITICAL STUFF AND CAMPAIGNING AND MAKES MONEY OFF OF THAT. 
          AND THAT IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE. 
          AND THEY DO FILL OUT A SPECIAL EVENT AND THEY FILL OUT A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT AND GETS APPROVED WITH ALL THE YEAH, YEAH. 
          OH YEAH. 
          UM, RUNNING FOR OTHER OFFICES. 
          IF I AM RUNNING TO BE THE REGISTER OF WILLS IN THE COUNTY, SHOULD I BE PROHIBITED DURING THAT CAMPAIGN PERIOD FROM HAVING AN EVENT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER? YES. 
          SO QUESTION. 
          WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT DURING THE CAMP, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CAMPAIGN PERIOD THAT YOU'RE, I DON'T, YOU'RE HONOR, I'M SORRY. 
          WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT WE AGREED THAT DOING A CAMPAIGN PERIOD THAT WE SHOULD NOT DO. 
          YEAH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TOWN ELECTION, BUT THIS WOULD BE ANY, SO WE WOULD JUST BROADEN IT TO BE ANY ELECTION. 
          SO IF NOT JUST A TOWN ELECTION, IF SOMEONE WAS RUNNING FOR QUOTE, QUOTE DISTRICT FIVE RIGHT NOW MM-HMM . 
          THEY COULD NOT BE STILL DO EVENTS IN THE TOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THERE WOULD BE A BLACKOUT PERIOD BETWEEN SOMETHING AND JUNE AND YOU COULD DO AN EVENT. 
          IT'S JUST YOU COULDN'T HAVE THE TOWN LIKE PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR IT. 
          NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ARE WE SET, ARE WE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME THAT IS OR IS THAT SOMETHING, I MEAN, NOT TONIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, YEP. 
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YEAH. 
          UM, DO WE FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE RESTRICTIONS ON THE MARKETING FOR COUNCIL MEMBER EVENTS THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY THE TOWN? UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FLYER LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF WHERE IT'S MARKETED? I MEAN, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE, THE, THE COUNTY RULES ON LIKE, YOU GOTTA USE THE OFFICIAL HEADSHOT, RIGHT? YOU GOTTA USE THE OFFICIAL EMAIL ACCOUNT, YOU GOTTA USE, UM, YOUR OFFICIAL STUFF. 
          AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S, YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO, FOR THE FLYERS, JUST IF WE CAN RUN IT EITHER THROUGH ETHICS OR THROUGH THE TOWN ATTORNEY, HOWEVER WE'RE GONNA DO THAT JUST SO THAT THAT GIVES US THE REASSURANCE BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. 
          WE, LIKE, WE SUBMITTED THE FLYER, IT GOT APPROVED, WE GOOD. 
          RIGHT? SIR? WE CAN REDO THE HEAD SHOTS IF YOU'RE NOT . 
          YES, PLEASE. 
          SO YES, PLEASE. 
          JUST AS AN FYI, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE WAS I GOING WITH THAT? OKAY. 
          YEAH, I KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT. 
          UM, SO A A AS FAR , AS FAR AS AS THIS, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE THE FLYER SUBMITTED IN WITH THE ACTUAL APPLICATION, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, I MEAN, WHATEVER TIMEFRAME WE DECIDE ON FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS WITH THIS, WHETHER IT'S 90 OR 60 DAYS OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THAT'S ONE, ONE MECHANISM THAT CAN GO THROUGH ONE APPROVAL PROCESS WHILE THE OTHER APPLI WHILE THE APPLICATION GOES THROUGH ITS SEPARATE APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          SO IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED ALONG THE WAY, WE CAN CATCH THOSE FLAGS ALONG THE WAY AND, YOU KNOW, APPROVE IT OR DENY IT ACCORDINGLY. 
          GO, GO. 
          DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING QUICK? NO, IT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          IF, IF A FLYER LISTS, UM, LET'S SAY NICOLE BRINER.COM, SHOULD THERE BE A PROHIBITION ON ME HAVING A LINK THERE ASKING FOR DONATIONS? YES. 
          YES. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          EVEN IF YOU CHANGE YOUR WEBPAGE FOR ONLY THE SIX WEEKS THAT YOU ARE ADVERTISING THE EVENT. 
          SURE. 
          BUT YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT NICOLE BRIER.COM ON THERE, THEN THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE RULES ABOUT WHAT NICOLE BRIER.COM SAYS RIGHT? FOR THAT SIX, SEVEN WEEKS. 
          AND IT MIGHT BE THAT WE DECIDE THAT I CAN'T PUT NICOLE BRIER.COM ON THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALSO FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NO PERSONAL WEBSITES. 
          WHAT ABOUT YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA? OR DO WE COVER THAT? I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT'S, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S COMMUNICATION BECAUSE THERE COULD BE ELECTED OFFICIAL SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOUR PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          SO BE ELECTED OFFICIAL. 
          WE JUST MAY HAVE TO, WE JUST MAY, SORRY. 
          WE JUST MAY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA DOESN'T HAVE ANY LIKE, DONATE TO ME OR VOLUNTEER FOR MY CAMPAIGN. 
          OKAY. 
          OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THAT CAN CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE TIME, BUT IT MAY BE JUST BEST THAT WE JUST HAVE THEM CLEARLY DISTINGUISHED. 
          I JUST HAVE TO ASK. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S LOOK AT D UM, I THINK SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT TONIGHT IS BUDGET. 
          OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALMOST BUDGET SEASON, BUT WE DO NEED TO CONSIDER THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A BUDGET LINE. 
          RIGHT? AND I KNOW THAT MANY OF US, UH, TALKED A LOT LAST YEAR ABOUT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, SO THAT WILL BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION. 
          UM, THE IDEA OF HAVING A CAP ON HOW MANY EVENTS EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CAN DO A YEAR, HAVING A CAP ON, UM, THE COST ACCOUNTING. 
          AND SO IF MR. GALLOWAY CAN PROVIDE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF STAFF TIME, OVER TIME, THINGS LIKE THAT MM-HMM . 
          WE WOULD WANT TO FACTOR THAT IN TO THAT EQUATION. 
          UM, GREAT. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF SPONSORSHIPS AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AT TOWN SUPPORTED COMMUNITY COUNCIL MEMBER EVENT, IF I HAVE ASKED THE TOWN TO SUPPORT MY EVENT AND AT MY EVENT MY SISTER WHO SELLS FRIENDSHIP BRACELETS HAS A BOOTH AND SHE IS SELLING A BUNCH OF FRIENDSHIP BRACELETS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT? LIKE IF THERE'S COMMERCIAL VENDOR ACTIVITY HAPPENING AT A COMMUNITY EVENT? UM, NO, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          NO. 
          I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUTTING IT ON THE FLYER AND JUST HAVING IT AT THE EVENT. 
          CLARIFICATION. 
          YES. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          JUST MAKE SURE, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT OUR, EVERYONE DOES COMMUNITY, LIKE BLOCK PARTIES IS THERE, IF THAT'S DONE ON THE WEEKEND, ARE ANY PUBLIC RESOURCES FROM THE TOWN BEING USED FOR THAT? YES. 
          BUT THAT'S FINE BECAUSE ANY, ANY RESIDENT REQUEST THAT, AND IT'S THE SAME THING, YOU WOULD GET THE BARRIERS OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS OH NO, WE DON'T GET SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          NO, IT'S THE SAME THING AS EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          CURRENTLY YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING SPECIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M JUST ASKING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT 
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AN OFFICIAL EVENT THAT I'LL BE KILLING. 
          WELL, IT WOULD, IT WOULD COUNT AGAINST YOU. 
          Y YOU KNOW, BECAUSE JUST LIKE IT COUNTS AGAINST ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO A WEEKEND BLOCK PARTY NEEDS TO PUT UP THE MONEY THAT IS REQUIRED. 
          IT WOULD ONLY COUNT AGAINST YOU IF YOU WERE REQUESTING SOMETHING BEYOND WHAT ANY RESIDENT WOULD GET. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHICH IS NOTHING BARRIERS, RIGHT NOW BARRIERS AND THE TRASH CAN, THE RECYCLING BINS, THEY GET THOSE. 
          WE YEAH, THEY PROVIDE THOSE NO COST. 
          YEAH, THEY PROVIDE THOSE SO THAT YOU CAN LIKE BLOCK OFF YOUR ROAD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YEAH. 
          SO, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, AND THAT'S, EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME THING, SO, OKAY. 
          UH, LETTER E. 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T REALLY, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT TOWN SUPPORT AND RESOURCES, BUT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHAT THAT IS, RIGHT? IS THAT USE OF TOWN FACILITIES? IS THAT USE OF EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES? IS IT TABLES AND CHAIRS? YEAH. 
          I, I THINK YOU SHOULD EXPLORE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE OPENING OF THIS BUILDING, I THINK YOU SHOULD EXPLORE THE BUILDING. 
          UM, I THINK THAT IT HAS TO, AND IT SHOULD INCLUDE SOME CLAUSE FOR TABLES AND CHAIRS AND WHATEVERS THE NON EXPENDABLE STUFF. 
          UM, I THINK STAFF LABOR THERE WAS TALK ABOUT NOT ALLOWING ANY STAFF TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          YEAH. 
          GO ON. 
          UM, OH, SO YOU'RE SAYING THE TABLES, ARE YOU SAYING TABLES AND CHAIRS SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT? I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A WAY TO GET THEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT LET'S TRY TO WRITE A, A WAY TO BORROW THEM THAT'S NOT CUMBERSOME. 
          AND AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GUYS WILL COME IN NOT AT THIS MEETING , RIGHT? YEAH. 
          BUT IF THE TABLES AND CHAIRS ARE BEING USED FOR SOME OTHER EVENT, RIGHT. 
          WHICH IS WHY THAT THERE WOULD BE A, A LEAD UP A 90 DAY SORT OF APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO COVER ALL OUR BLIND SPOTS, I'M GONNA ASK IT ANYWAY. 
          IF WE HAVE A PER COUNCIL MEMBER CAP BUDGET WISE, IS THERE EVER A SCENARIO WHERE THE COUNCIL MEMBER COULD JUST REQUEST THOSE FUNDS TO BE USED TO SAY, HEY, CAN I GET MY $500 'CAUSE I WANNA USE IT TO RENT A BOUNCE HOUSE? NO. 
          UH, NO. 
          NO. 
          SEE, IT'S A STUPID QUESTION. 
          BUT YOU CAN, CAN ONLY USE, YOU CAN ONLY, YOU CAN ONLY DO THIS TO DO, I DON'T THINK IT'S DUMB. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T THINK I, I THINK IT'S, UH, YOU CAN ONLY USE THIS POLICY TO HAVE A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EVENT. 
          RIGHT? BUT I'M HAVING A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EVENT AND I REALLY WANT A BIG OLD BOUNCE HOUSE. 
          ARE YOU SAYING FOR LIABILITY REASONS? NO, I'M SAYING LIKE, BECAUSE THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. 
          DOES, DOES THE, DO THE FUNDS THEMSELVES COUNT AS A TOWN RESOURCE IN TOWN SUPPORT, OR THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE USED IN KIND? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE ONLY ASPECT IS YOUR MIC ON, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT I, I, I THINK THE, IT SHOULD BE USED FOR IS THE ASPECT OF MANPOWER, NOT DIRECT FUNDS. 
          SO YOU CAN PURCHASE SOMETHING, UM, REGARDING THAT. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A SALAL, A, A STIPEND, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, A SALARY THAT WE CAN USE IT FOR THAT. 
          OH, I SEE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT, THIS THING, IT IS EITHER MANPOWER STAFF OR I SEE TABLES AND CHAIRS NOT YEAH. 
          TO TAKE ACTUAL CASH AND THEN WE GO PAY FOR THAT. 
          THERE SHOULD BE NO ACTUAL TRANSFER OF MONEY. 
          CORRECT. 
          HERE. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          SEE, OKAY. 
          YES. 
          NO TRANSFER OF MONEY OR NO PURCHASE OF OUTSIDE EQUIPMENT FOR YEAH, I THINK THAT'S YES. 
          BOTH OF THOSE. 
          YEP. 
          SO IT'S ALL EQUIVALENT IN KIND MM-HMM . 
          RESOURCE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LETTER F. 
          UH, WE WOULD NEED A NEUTRAL SYSTEM FOR RESOLVING COMPETING REQUESTS. 
          I THINK ALL OF US HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP. 
          IF I WANNA HAVE EVENT AT THE SAME, THE SAME MONTH, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FRY IS LIKE HOW, HOW DO WE CHOOSE WHICH BABY TO SAVE? MM-HMM . 
          AND WHICH ONE TO THROW OFF THE CLIFF. 
          UM, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF HAS SOMETHING OBJECTIVE SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME MR. GALLOWAY LIKES COUNCIL MEMBER FRY A LOT MORE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO SHE GETS HER EVENT AND I DON'T, BECAUSE I'M A PAIN IN THE BUTT SO, SO SOMETHING LIKE PARK AND PLANNING'S, UH, SUMMER CAMP SCHEDULING SYSTEM. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE ALREADY EXISTING EVENTS THAT HAPPEN YEAH. 
          EVERY YEAR. 
          ABSOLUTE, ABSOLUTELY. 
          LIKE SAFETY AND, UM, AND THEN ALSO SOME OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE CERTAIN EVENTS EVERY YEAR TOO, SO, SO THAT THERE MIGHT NEED THE TOWN ADMIN. 
          WE MAY HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR ON SOME GENERAL BLACKOUTS. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          LIKE NOTHING, NOTHING WITHIN 10 DAYS OF CH DAY. 
          NOTHING LIKE THAT. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY NOTHING THE MONTH BEFORE CH DAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          ESPECIALLY NOW THAT IT'S A WEEK. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'VE TALKED THROUGH G ALREADY THAT THE REQUEST SHOULD BE ROUTED THROUGH, UM, A STANDARDIZED PROCESS. 
          THERE'S NO VOLUNTEERING, UM, UH, REMOVAL OF DISCRETIONARY ENFORCEMENT FROM FRONTLINE STAFF. 
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SO THERE SHOULD BE, UH, SAFEGUARDS THERE SO THAT THE TOWN LAWYER OR THE ETHICS COMMITTEE CAN MAKE A CALL WHEN STAFF FEELS LIKE THEY CAN'T MAKE A CALL. 
          UM, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS POLICY WILL BE WRITTEN WELL. 
          AND SO WE WOULDN'T NEED THAT. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE WOULD WANT THE ETHICS COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THIS POLICY IN ADDITION TO THE TOWN LAWYER. 
          UM, THERE SHOULD BE, AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY, UH, MR. DELO MADE THIS SUGGESTION THAT THERE SHOULD BE BUILT IN SOME KIND OF CONSEQUENCE FOR VIOLATION OF THIS POLICY. 
          AND SO IF THERE IS AN EVENT THAT HAPPENS AND IT CLEARS ALL OF THE HURDLES AND THE FORMS ARE FILLED, AND THE EVENT GOES WELL, AND THE ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS A BIG OLD STACK OF CAMPAIGN FLYERS ASKING FOR DONATIONS MM-HMM . 
          THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE A WAY TO SAY THAT WASN'T OKAY. 
          IS IT PUBLIC CENSURE? IS IT SOME KIND OF A SUSPENSION OF YOUR ACCESS TO TOWN RESOURCES? IT SOUNDS PUNITIVE, BUT MR. DELO SAID IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THINGS THAT WILL ENFORCE ANY POTENTIAL, UM, VIOLATIONS. 
          CAN I? YEAH. 
          JUST AS, UH, SO IT'S ON THE MENU, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IN KIND COST BY THE TOWN. 
          IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO REIMBURSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF COSTS. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S TECHNICALLY ENOUGH, BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT SAY, OKAY, GREAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S, I GET UNLIMITED LABOR OR WHATEVER. 
          UM, AND I JUST GOTTA PAY FOR IT. 
          BUT, UH, BUT IT, IT, THAT AT LEAST FOR ME WOULD BE A REASON TO CHECK WHAT IS IN THE PILES BEFORE IT STARTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          ASSUMING I'M ACTING IN GOOD FAITH IN JUST, YOU KNOW, ABOUT SUSPENSION OF YOUR SALARY. 
          OH, SUSPENSION OF MY SALARY THERE. 
          GO SUSPENSION, SALARY, , ALL THOSE BIG DOLLARS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          UM, OKAY, GREAT. 
          ROMAN NUMERAL THREE, UM, TALKS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT A COMMUNITY EVENT IS A PUBLIC GOOD, UM, WHICH I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW GRANULAR WE NEED TO BE IN THIS POLICY ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES A COMMUNITY EVENT, WHAT CONSTITUTES PUBLIC BENEFIT. 
          UM, WE DID TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY, UM, AND THAT IS BOTH ABOUT TOWN WIDE ACCESSIBILITY, BUT ALSO PHYSICAL ACCESSIBILITY, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO INCLUDE. 
          EVERYONE AGREES. 
          OH, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, ACCESSIBILITY, INCLUSIVITY, WE TALKED ABOUT, I'M DOWN AT C NOW. 
          UM, PERMITTING AND ADVANCED NOTICE. 
          SO THERE BEING AN APPLICATION POLICY, A CLEAR IDENTIFICATION OF WHAT THE REQUESTED TOWN RESOURCES ARE, THE TOWN WOULD PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF ANTICIPATED COSTS FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S TO ENSURE PLANNING TIME FOR STAFF, TRANSPARENT, PRIORITIZATION OF RESOURCES, EQUAL TREATMENT, ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, D WE TALKED ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS ON THE SCOPE OF RESOURCES, WHAT IS AND IS NOT AVAILABLE. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL NEED TO MASSAGE ONCE WE HAVE A WRITTEN POLICY. 
          UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE TALKED ENOUGH FOR RIGHT NOW TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING TO START WITH. 
          UM, AGAIN, FULL COST TRANSPARENCY, LETTER E, UM, JUST MAKING SURE EVERYONE IS CLEAR ON HOW TAXPAYER FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UH, I'M DOWN AT NUMBER FOUR. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY FOUR IS SO LOW DOWN. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE PUT IT MUCH HIGHER UP. 
          . 
          UM, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, YEAH, I FEEL LIKE THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN ENOUGH THAT THE POLICY COMMITTEE CAN GO BACK AND CREATE A DRAFT THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AT OUR NEXT WORK SESSION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          9 38. 
          UH, SO, UH, IS THERE PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS PROCESS THAT COULD INFORM THE COUNCIL'S DRAFTING OF AN ACTUAL POLICY? PLEASE COME UP AND, UH, SIT TO THE LEFT OF MR. CARDENAS NAME, WARD. 
          AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          YES, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SOME 
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OF THESE ARE, ARE QUESTIONS THAT I, I'D APPRECIATE AN ANSWER LATER. 
          UM, ONE IS, I'M, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF, UM, MNI ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT, M-N-C-P-P-C, UM, DRAWING UPON THOSE RESOURCES AS A MUNICIPALITY TO MEET THE NEED FOR TABLES AND CHAIRS. 
          UM, AND FOR THE MUNICIPALITY TO MAKE THAT REQUEST A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, A CERTAIN TI NUMBER OF TIMES IN A YEAR. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE RESTRICTIONS ON THAT, BUT I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE TO BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE, TO BRING IN MORE RESOURCES AND NOT HAVE IT FALL ON NECESSARILY TOWN STAFF FOR THAT. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, THERE'S THE IDEA THAT EVERY EVENT IS OPEN TO EVERYONE IN THE TOWN. 
          I THINK THAT THAT IS A NICE GENERAL RULE THAT I THINK EVEN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE TO ABIDE BY IN THE USE OF SPACE. 
          BUT I, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S AN IMPORTANCE IN COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING ABLE TO HOLD WARD SPECIFIC. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THERE, YOU WANNA VALUE IN BEING ABLE TO HAVE A WARD FOR EVENT, YOU KNOW, AND BE, YOU KNOW, GOING, GOING THROUGH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN A LITTLE MORE SILENT THAN EVERYONE ELSE, SO I PICKED YOU UP FOR WARD FOR EVENT. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UM, THERE ARE, THERE, THERE ARE OTHERS, UM, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, STAYING ON WARD FOUR, YOU HAVE THE WARD FOUR CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER LAYER OF NEEDING TO WORK WITHIN, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WARDS AS WELL. 
          UM, I AM VERY CONCERNED THOUGH ABOUT THE USE OF SPACE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, THE MINUTE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ARE TOLD THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO HAVE BECAUSE THERE'S AN EVENT FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER, I KNOW I'M GONNA BE LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T HAVE THE VACCINE CLINIC? THE VACCINE CLINIC IS A BIG GOOD AND THAT'S PROVIDED BY A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. 
          AND IF THAT SHUT OUT, YOU KNOW, THEN, THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF HARD FEELINGS AND HARM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, SO THE IDEA OF THIS 90 DAYS OR WHATEVER, I THINK IT'S MORE THAT THERE'S A COOPERATION AND COLLABORATION AND HOW TO MAKE THOSE EVENTS HAPPEN. 
          BECAUSE MORE THAN ANYTHING, I WOULD THINK EVERYONE HERE WOULD AGREE. 
          THE IDEA IS TO HAVE COMMUNITY FIRST. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ALL OF THIS. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANNA BRING FORWARD IS WHEN, WHEN EVENTS ARE DONE AND THEY ARE PROMOTED SO HEAVILY WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THE, I I'M, I'M AWFUL AT THIS, BUT, UM, WITH THE SELFIES, THE, THIS, THE THAT AND, AND IT, AND YOU FIND OUT THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THERE, BUT THE PROMOTION OF THE EVENT ONLY INCLUDES A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR MAYOR THERE. 
          THAT'S WHERE I THINK, UM, MORE THAT'S WHERE HARM IS DONE. 
          SO THE I THE IDEA OF IF THERE IS A, IF THERE'S AN EVENT TO NOT HAVE IT BE AN IN CLUB AND AN OUT CLUB, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THAT THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          AND THAT'S A GREAT REMINDER ABOUT M-N-C-P-P-C 'CAUSE I ALWAYS FORGET, LIKE YOU CAN GET LIKE THREE FACE PAINTERS AND ROLLER SKATES FROM THEM, RIGHT? LIKE THAT'S A GREAT RESOURCE AS LONG AS THEY STAY FUNDED. 
          JUST A RESPONSE TO MARYLAND NATIONAL CAPITAL PARK AND PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          WE DO UTILIZE MARYLAND NATIONAL CAPITAL PARK AND PLANNING COMMISSION AS A TOWN FOR SOME OF OUR MAJOR EVENTS SUCH AS CH DAY AND PUBLIC SAFETY DAY. 
          HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THESE TYPE OF UTILIZATIONS OR PLANS THAT WE PLAN ON HAVING TO USE THEIR EQUIPMENT BECAUSE WE'RE COMPETING WITH 27 OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY THEMSELVES. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, JUST IN GENERAL FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY. 
          IT CAN BE DONE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THESE TYPE OF EVENTS WELL IN ADVANCE SO THAT YOU CAN BE CONSIDERED, UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEIR SPACE GETS BOOKED UP. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, JULIA MOSLEY, WARD TWO. 
          UM, I THINK THE CONCEPT OF COMING UP WITH GUARDRAILS, GUIDELINES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, I THINK IS EXCELLENT. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, THAT HELPS EVERYBODY, UH, STAFF, ALL OF COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UM, I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WADE'S EVENT LAST YEAR WAS TERRIBLE. 
          I THINK IT WAS RETALIATORY. 
          I THINK IT WAS TIME TO DO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF DAMAGE, UM, TO THE EVENT. 
          UM, I THINK IT WAS MEAN-SPIRITED. 
          I THINK AS COUNCIL MEMBER WADE SAID IT, IT 
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MADE THE TOWN LOOK BAD THAT OUR OWN STAFF, UH, COULDN'T BE THERE EVEN THOUGH SOME WERE THERE ON THEIR OWN TIME. 
          UM, UH, MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT, SO I THINK THAT'S ALL GOOD THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS. 
          I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS GOOD. 
          UM, I DO FIND IT SOMEWHAT DISRESPECTFUL. 
          I'M SURE UNINTENTIONAL, THAT THIS POLICY WAS NOT PART OF THE AGENDA WAS NOT MADE PUBLIC UNTIL STAFF SO NICELY WENT OUT TONIGHT AND COPIED IT. 
          THAT MAKES ME WONDER WHETHER YOU REALLY WANT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          AND IT DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE. 
          I THOUGHT IN LOOKING AT THE AGENDA, THAT IT WAS A BRIEF DISCUSSION AND THE DETAIL THAT YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING TONIGHT, WHICH WAS ALL VERY GOOD, WAS LATER. 
          SO TRANSPARENCY INVOLVING THE PUBLIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I, I GUESS I, I'LL JUST SAY, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY YET. 
          UH, WHEN THERE IS A DRAFT POLICY, WE WILL PUT THE DRAFT POLICY ON THE AGENDA AND THEN THAT WILL BE IN THE PACKET. 
          UM, SO, UH, WE, THAT MAY BE RIGHT. 
          THAT MAY BE THE MARCH WORK SESSION. 
          IT MAY BE THE APRIL WORK SESSION. 
          I HOPE IT'S SOONER THAN LATER. 
          UM, AND WE WILL NOT ADOPT THE POLICY THE SAME NIGHT. 
          SO I THINK I CAN MAKE THAT PROMISE. 
          AND MAYOR JU, JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS STILL IN COMMITTEE AND THIS WAS SENT TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS WAS MORE OR LESS AS A DISCUSSION ITEM AND NOTES TO GUIDE THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. 
          IT IT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DRAFT, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE DID NOT INCLUDE, SO THAT, THAT'S THE REASON. 
          SO MA'AM, YOUR NAME, YOUR WARD, AND PATRICIA WASHINGTON BRINGING YOU GREETINGS FROM WARD FOUR. 
          AND MOST OF WHAT I HAD JOTTED DOWN IS HAS ALREADY BEEN OUT HERE. 
          UM, YOU GUYS ARE AIRING IT OUT, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          NOW, IS THIS A WORKING DOCUMENT? BECAUSE I'M THINKING, UM, IF WE HAVE A POLICY COMMITTEE, WHICH I'VE NEVER HEARD OF, I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST THREE DECADES, WHO DOES THAT CONSIST OF? I HEARD A COUNCIL MEMBER FROM WARD FIVE SAY HE'S A PART OF IT. 
          WHO ARE WE, WHO, WHO'S HANDLING THIS? WHO ARE THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE COMMITTEE? WHAT DOES IT CONSIST OF? WHO, WHO'S MAKING THESE? UM, SO DECISIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY FIRST AND THEN I'LL TURN TO NICOLE. 
          I THINK, UM, THERE'S, OKAY. 
          YOU CAN ANSWER THAT AFTER I'M DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE I WANNA GET MY TIME AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO RECLAIM MY TIME. 
          BEEN WATCH TOO MUCH CONGRESS, . 
          OKAY. 
          IF SOMEONE COULD EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN GOVERNING AND C COMMUTING AND COMMUNITY VERSUS CAMPAIGNING. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHAT THAT IS AND HOW IT, UH, IMPEDES SOMEONE, UH, TRYING TO BRING THE COMMUNITY GET, I MEAN, IN THE SPIRIT OF BLACK HISTORY, WHICH LAST NIGHT WAS PHENOMENAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'VE NOW DEALING, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA BUTTON THIS UP BECAUSE HERE WE ARE WITH DISPARITIES. 
          PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH REAL IMPORTANT STUFF, AFFORDABILITY AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE YOU AS THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER ADDRESS. 
          BUT WE'RE GOING DOWN A PATH OF MAKING ALL THESE HOOPS AND, AND, AND THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO JUMP THROUGH. 
          AND I'M THINKING AS A RESIDENT, LIKE I SAID, ALMOST THREE DECADES, MOST PEOPLE HAVEN'T EVEN LIVED HERE THAT LONG. 
          AND ON BEHALF OF OUR CONCERNED RESIDENTS, WE, WE CANNOT, I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE'S A DEPARTURE FROM WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED AND LOVED AND ENJOY IN THIS QUEEN TOWN. 
          SO I'M THINKING IF IT'S NOT BROKEN, IT'S NOT HARMING ANYBODY. 
          WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH FOCUS ON THIS INSTEAD OF ALL THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, AGAIN, HOARDING MY NEIGHBOR, ALL THE THINGS THAT I'M WORKING ON, AND I'M NOT EVEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT ALL OF MY TIME AS A RETIRED PERSON IS BEING SQUANDERED, DOING ALL THIS STUFF TO HELP MY NEIGHBOR. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED, ESPECIALLY IN THE ENVIRONMENT NATIONALLY THAT WE ARE IN. 
          SO WE DON'T WANNA HAVE ALL THIS PAPERWORK. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I JUST HAVE TO SAY, BECAUSE IT FRUSTRATES ME THAT GOOD GOVERNANCE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU INCLUDE EVERYBODY. 
          WE COME TO SOME KIND OF FORMAT AND IT'S DONE. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS IS A, I'M AT THE LOSS FOR WORDS. 
          I DUNNO, THIS IS HOW IT'S HAPPENED. 
          THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AND THIS IS SO DISAPPOINTING. 
          AND THE INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS MUST BE CONSIDERED. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO IS THIS, WHO THIS COMMITTEE IS, IS IT, I MEAN, WHO, WHO ARE THEY? IS THIS A SECRET SOCIETY? SOMEBODY TELL ME. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          SO I'LL JUST SAY FIRST, IT'S NOT EVEN 
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A WORKING DOCUMENT YET. 
          IT'S A NON-EXISTENT DOCUMENT. 
          UM, AND IT WILL SOON BE A FIRST DRAFT OF A POLICY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UM, SO, AND THIS HAS HAPPENED, THE LAST TWO COUNCIL TERMS, UM, AT THE FIRST WORK SESSION FOLLOWING AN ELECTION, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, TALK ABOUT RULES OF PROCEDURE, WHAT THEY WANT THIS TERM TO LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT GUIDE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          WE GO AROUND AND EVERYONE, UM, OR PEOPLE VOLUNTEER TO BE LIAISONS TO DIFFERENT GROUPS. 
          UM, SO LIKE THE PLANNING BOARD, LIKE THE REC COUNCIL, UM, AND THERE IS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO WANTS TO SERVE ON THE POLICY COMMITTEE. 
          SO THAT HAPPENED IN AN OPEN MEETING, UM, WHERE THERE WERE VOLUNTEERS. 
          AND WE DECIDED AS A GROUP, THIS IS THE POLICY COMMITTEE. 
          THE POLICY COMMITTEE DOES NOT, I'M GOING TO, THE POLICY COMMITTEE DOES NOT MAKE DECISIONS. 
          THE POLICY COMMITTEE EXISTS BECAUSE IT IS REALLY, REALLY HARD FOR SEVEN PEOPLE TO SIT IN AN OPEN MEETING IN A ROOM AND WRITE POLICY AND LIKE DECIDE ON EXACT WORDING. 
          UM, IT IS SO MUCH EASIER TO START FROM SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO SIT HERE AND TRY TO WRITE THIS POLICY SENTENCE BY SENTENCE, WE WOULD BE HERE FOR HOURS AND HOURS. 
          SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE DOES NOT MAKE ANY DECISIONS. 
          THE COMMITTEE TAKES WHAT THE COUNCIL IS SAYING, PUTS IT INTO A FORMAT SO THAT WE CAN ALL LOOK AT IT TOGETHER AND SO THAT COMMUNITY CAN LOOK AT IT AND PROVIDE INPUT AND THEN IT IS FINALIZED. 
          SO I, LIKE, I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THE FACT THAT THE POLICY COMMITTEE DOES NOT MAKE DECISIONS. 
          AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. 
          BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT TO WRITE THIS POLICY, WE REALIZED THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS. 
          AND THAT'S NOT OUR JOB. 
          OUR JOB IS TO FULFILL THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. 
          AND SO WE SAID WE CAN'T WRITE THIS YET BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD ENOUGH CONVERSATION AS A GROUP ABOUT WHAT IT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE BECAUSE WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS. 
          WE JUST PICK WORDS. 
          SO I JUST HEARD YOU SAY THAT THERE'S A COMMITTEE AND IN, IS IT ON? DID YOU HAVE MORE OF YOUR THREE MINUTES LEFT? I, NO, YOU LISTEN, PEOPLE WERE HERE FOR NINE MINUTES. 
          I RECLAIM MY TIME. 
          HERE'S WHAT I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME IS, BUT, WELL, THERE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT PEOPLE WERE TALKING LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES. 
          I DIDN'T SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES, SO I STILL HAVE AT LEAST A MINUTE AND ALL. 
          I WANT A MINUTE. 
          SOUNDS RIGHT. 
          ALL COUNCIL MEMBER, VICE MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT THERE'S NO EQUITY. 
          SO YOU ARE STILL HAVEN'T TOLD ME WHO'S THE CO WHO IS, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE COMMITTEE IS, WHO ARE THE POLICY MAKERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS COMMITTEE. 
          I STILL DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO GO AHEAD AND CONCLUDE YOUR I WAS TALKING TO HER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I WANNA KNOW IF, GO AHEAD. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S P THERE'S UM, OUTSIDE, LIKE HERE WE ARE RESIDENTS AND WE'RE CONCERNED. 
          SO IF THIS IS AN OPEN DISCUSSION, WHEN DO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER HERE, LIKE I HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH DAVID MM-HMM . 
          MY CONCERNS, BUT I DON'T KNOW, WILL HE GET A CHANCE TO BRING IT TO WHOEVER'S IN THE COMMITTEE? AND HOW DOES THAT WORK IF HE'S NOT PART OF IT? I DIDN'T HEAR HIM SAY HE WAS PART OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE. 
          IS THAT, I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT THAT'S, YOU NEED TO CONCLUDE YOUR REMARKS. 
          I'M DONE. 
          AND THEN, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DO YOU WANNA RESPOND OR YOU'RE GOOD? YEAH. 
          THE POLICY MAKERS ARE THE SEVEN OF US. 
          WE MAKE THE POLICY, WE ALL DECIDE TOGETHER. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE POLICY COMMITTEE DOES NOT MAKE ANY DECISIONS. 
          WE TAKE THE INPUT OF OUR COLLEAGUES, WE WRITE UP A DRAFT, WE BRING IT BACK TO OUR COLLEAGUES AND THE COMMITTEE COMMUNITY. 
          THERE'S INPUT, AGAIN, ANOTHER DRAFT IS WRITTEN. 
          IT IS, IT IS SPECIFICALLY A, A, A, LIKE A, A PROCESS THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE ANY SUBGROUP OF PEOPLE MAKING ANY DECISIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS ITEM? CAN YOU ASK HER A QUESTION THOUGH? SHE ASKED A QUESTION. 
          OH, WHO'S IN THE POLICY? OH, THE, OH, SO, SO THE PEOPLE WHO HELP WRITE THE ACTUAL POLICY ARE MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER FRY, COUNCIL MEMBER GAR, THE TOWN LAWYER, UM, AND MR. GALLOWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, SORRY. 
          I, I COMPLETELY, I I COMPLETELY FORGOT THAT PART OF THE QUESTION. 
          BUT LIKE THAT, UM, AND THAT WAS ALL DECIDED IN AN OPEN 
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MEETING, MAY 22ND, 2025 WORK SESSION. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE JUNE TOWN MEETING AGENDA. 
          ALRIGHT, SO IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS THAT THERE, OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE PERSON ONLINE AND THEN YOU, YOU'LL BE NEXT. 
          IS THERE A HAND ONLINE? YOUR NAME AND YOUR WARD? AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, RIGHT? GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          HI, MY NAME IS MINTY WADE AND I AM IN WARD ONE. 
          AND, UM, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, WIFE TO COUNCIL MEMBER WADE. 
          UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. 
          UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANKS TO THE GROUP THAT HAS PUT FORTH AN INITIAL DRAFT TO START THIS CONVERSATION. 
          UM, AS SOMEONE WHO HAVING POLICY, I'M REALLY GLAD TO HAVE THIS BECAUSE LAST YEAR, UM, THIS PAST EVENT WAS QUITE, UM, PAINFUL TO SAY THE LEAST, TO HAVE TO GO INTO MY FAMILY'S PERSONAL BUDGET TO PAY OUT OF POCKET ALMOST A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HAVE AN EVENT THAT BENEFITS MY COMMUNITY. 
          SIMPLY BECAUSE, UM, THE POLICIES WERE NOT CLEAR. 
          I WOULD HOPE THAT NO OTHER FAMILY, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO VOLUNTEER TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY OF CH WOULD HAVE TO ENDURE SUCH SITUATION, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN SOME OF US ARE UNEMPLOYED. 
          SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. 
          UM, AS SOMEONE WHO'S HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ON POLICY FOR OVER TWO DECADES, I JUST WANTED TO OFFER A COUPLE OF THINGS TO CONSIDER AS WE GO TO FINAL DRAFTING. 
          SO, ONE, I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT, UM, BALANCING THE ROLES OF ELECTED OFFICIALS VERSUS THOSE OF THE TOWN. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TEASED OUT IN ANY POLICIES. 
          I HOPE THE COMMITTEE TAKES THAT INTO, UM, CONSIDER CONSIDERATION. 
          SECONDLY, UM, I RECENTLY JUST SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATION FOR CPRC SPRING FESTIVAL, AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE SPECIAL PERMIT. 
          UM, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, I THINK WE NEED TO SYNCHRONIZE AND HAVE SIMILAR, UM, FORMS THAT WE USE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING AND HAVING SEPARATE PROCESSES. 
          'CAUSE THAT COULD BE BURDENSOME FOR TIME STAFF, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT TOWN, TOWN STAFF AND RESOURCES. 
          SO, SO A POINT TO KEEP IN MIND. 
          THIRD, AS I TOOK NOTES, I MENTIONED, I, I HEARD A NUMBER OF POINTS ABOUT BALANCING WHETHER X NUMBER OF EVENTS AS OPPOSED TO, UM, UM, A CAP. 
          I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME FLEXIBILITY WRITTEN THERE. 
          UM, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER BRINGS C CERTAIN SKILL SETS AND VALUE ADD TO THE COMMUNITY OF CH UM, PERSONALLY, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO X NUMBER OF EVENTS PER SE. 
          IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SOME THAT MAY NOT BE THEIR WHEELHOUSE. 
          SO TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, YOU NEED TO BUILD IN, UH, SOME FLEXIBILITY EITHER UP TO X NUMBER OF EVENTS OR WITHIN X NUMBER OF DOLLARS. 
          SO THAT'S A POINT I I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE SO THAT WE, COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T FEEL PRESSURED IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT, UM, TIME TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO BE COMPELLED TO DO THOSE, UM, TYPES OF OUTREACH THAT, UH, OTHERS MAY WANT TO DO. 
          UM, THIRD, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT, UM, IT BE COMMUNICATED WITH THE COMMUNITY A CLEAR TIMELINE FOR FINALIZING THIS POLICY SO THAT WE DO NOT INHIBIT COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM ACTUALLY EXECUTING THE DUTIES FOR WHICH THEY WERE ELECTED TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, PLEASE OUTLINE A TIMELINE FOR COMPLETING THE POLICY AS WELL AS IF THERE IS A PERIOD FOR, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE POLICY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL. 
          THIRD AND FOURTH. 
          UM, AS WE TALK ABOUT FISCAL STEWARDSHIP, I THINK TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, CAN WE LOOK INTO HOW COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN LEVERAGE SPONSORSHIPS TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS THAT COULD BE BORNE BY THE TOWN. 
          AND WITH THAT, I THINK HAVING CLEAR GUARDRAILS AROUND SPONSORSHIP, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE PERHAPS MAYBE NOT HAVING SOMETHING WITH LIKE A LIQUOR STORE SPONSORING SOMETHING OR OTHER FACTORS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          I YIELD IF ANYBODY WANTS TO, UM, PROVIDE EXTRA TIME, I'LL BE MORE HONORED OR I CAN PROVIDE, UM, WRITTEN COMMENTS. 
          BUT JUST HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON STRUCTURING A POLICY AND KEEPING IT SIMPLE. 
          PLEASE OVER. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          YEAH, WE WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS. 
          JOYCE, JOYCE JONES. 
          FORWARD, UH, ONE, UH, TWO. 
          SORRY. 
          I USED TO LIVE IN WARD ONE . 
          UH, I JUST WANNA ECHO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS. 
          I'M, I'M SURE I'M NOT GONNA BE QUITE SO ELOQUENT. 
          UM, UH, I WAS DISAPPOINTED TO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 
          IT, IT'S A LINE IF IT'S WRITTEN ON THE AGENDA AND YOU COME IN TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT TRANSPARENCY ALL THE TIME. 
          THAT OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T FLY. 
          I WENT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, WADE'S EVENT LAST JULY. 
          I SAW A LOT OF CONFUSED PEOPLE, 
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A LOT OF EMPTY SPACES WHERE THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TONS OF CHEVROLET RESIDENTS ENJOYING THE EVENT AND OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY. 
          I SAW A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS WHO CAME ON A HOT DAY TO SUPPORT THE TOWN AND THEY WERE DISENFRANCHISED. 
          I DON'T KNOW, I'M SURE I'LL NEVER KNOW HOW IT ALL FELL, FELL APART OR WHO MADE THE COMPLAINT, BUT MY STRONG PERCEPTION IS OUR FORMER COUNCILPERSON MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR MOSLEY SAID IT WAS VERY PUNITIVE AND IT WAS VERY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND IT WAS SHOCKING. 
          I DO WANNA APPLAUD COUNCIL MEMBER WADE FOR HIS BEHAVIOR ON THAT DAY. 
          IT WAS EXTREMELY POSITIVE, EXTREMELY PROFESSIONAL, WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD A GOOD TIME. 
          IT WAS GREAT TO MEET HIS WIFE. 
          IT WAS LOVELY TO HEAR FROM HER TONIGHT. 
          IF I WANT YOU TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM WHAT I'M SAYING, SO MANY OF US FEEL OUR VOICES ARE NOT BEING HEARD. 
          YEAH, WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN HAVE MEETINGS, WE CAN HAVE LISTS OF THINGS, WE CAN HAVE COMMITTEES, WE CAN HAVE POLICY. 
          IT'S VERY TOP DOWN. 
          WE'RE TOLD THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          UH, THIS IS JUST THE LATEST EXAMPLE. 
          ONE OTHER EXAMPLE, WHEN THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE POLICY WENT THROUGH ITS WHOLE PROCESS, MULTIPLE MEETINGS, MULTIPLE PUBLISHING, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 
          I WENT TO MANY OF THOSE MEETINGS WITH LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE. 
          WE HAD LOTS OF SUGGESTIONS. 
          WE WERE IGNORED. 
          WE WERE IGNORED. 
          YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN OUR INPUT. 
          SO I'D LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE IT TO HEART. 
          UM, BECAUSE, AND ONE MORE THING. 
          WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT CH I'VE BEEN IN CH 41 YEARS NOW AND THERE'S ALL THIS THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, I CALL PEOPLE, I CALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE CULT OF CH WE, WE ARE NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS AND, AND WE NEED TO HOLD EACH OTHER AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER. 
          YES, THEY'RE GONNA BE DIFFERENCES. 
          THEY'RE GONNA BE DISAGREEMENTS. 
          THERE'RE GONNA BE HARD FEELINGS. 
          BUT THIS IS GETTING TOO UGLY AND TOO TOO PERSONAL. 
          AND I'D REALLY LIKE PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON IN THIS WORLD, SO MUCH UGLINESS OUT THERE. 
          WE WANNA HOLD ONE OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN WE PASS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, PULL UP IN OUR LITTLE DRIVEWAY AT NIGHT OR IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE AND FEEL THANK, OH GOD, I'M AWAY FROM ALL THAT. 
          LET'S NOT BRING ALL THAT IN HERE. 
          OKAY? THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          AGAIN, ELAINE JOHNSON, WARD SIX. 
          AND I CONCUR PRETTY MUCH WITH WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED, BUT FOR THE RECORD I HAVE TO PRESENT. 
          UM, JUST, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY IN TERMS OF MY DISAPPOINTMENT WITH ALL THAT HAS TRANSPIRED REGARDING THIS POLICY, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF HOW IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED. 
          WE KNOW THAT PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING. 
          THIS CLEARLY WAS RETALIATORY. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT. 
          BUT ESPECIALLY NOW THAT MY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAD A CLOUD OF ETHICS OVER HER HEAD IS NOW CONCERNED WITH PERCEPTION AND ETHICS. 
          DO WE NEED THIS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          I THINK YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM ALL OF US. 
          WE AGREE THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS IN PLACE, BUT THE TIMING OF THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? COUNSEL, ANYTHING FURTHER TO SEND? OH, SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD SIR. 
          HELLO EVERYONE. 
          HELLO, RICARDO V'S. 
          UM, WARD ONE. 
          WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN BEATEN A DEAD HORSE WITH ALL OF THIS. 
          UH, JUST WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. 
          I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LEARN FROM IT. 
          PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK. 
          GET UP, SHAKE IT OFF JUST A LITTLE LOUDER. 
          I SAID, UM, I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD JUST DISCONTINUE ALL THIS COMPLAINING AND BICKERING. 
          I THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, JUST HUMANITY. 
          UH, EVERY HUMAN BEING IS FALLIBLE, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWIBLE. 
          BUT, UM, LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD IN A POSITIVE WAY FROM THIS. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO, TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT OKAY. 
          SEEING NO OTHER PUBLIC INPUT. 
          COUNSEL, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY BEFORE THE DRAFTING BEGINS IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS? OKAY, WE'RE 
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GONNA GO TO DAVID AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE LAST WORD. 
          YEP. 
          UH, JUST REALLY QUICKLY 'CAUSE THE SORT OF HOW IT ALL WORKS CAME UP AS A QUESTION. 
          THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE ON THAT COMMITTEE. 
          IT'S A MAX OF THREE. 
          'CAUSE IF IT'S MORE THAN THAT, THEN IT COUNTS AS A MEETING. 
          SO OPEN MEETINGS ACT MEANS I I THIS IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT. 
          SO THEY, THEY PRESENT IT, THEY SHARED IT. 
          WE HAVE THE, THE DOCUMENT. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW MUCH CONVERSATION HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF THESE MEETINGS. 
          UH, SO THIS IS THE TIME FOR ME TO HEAR AND FOR ME TO COMMENT. 
          UM, THAT'S, IT IS SLOWER THAT WAY, BUT IT'S HOW WE MAKE SURE DECISIONS AREN'T ACTUALLY HAPPENING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. 
          SO IT IS ODD, I'M SURE WHEN YOU'RE SEEING IT FROM THE OUTSIDE, UH, BECAUSE IT, IT IS SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL DOCUMENT AND SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL CONVERSATION. 
          UH, BUT I WANTED, 'CAUSE YOU DID ASK THAT, THAT QUESTION, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I ADDRESSED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, WADE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, I JUST WANT TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW. 
          I DO HEAR YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT REGARDING IT. 
          WE DID SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT. 
          UM, SECONDLY, UH, PICKING OFF OF MY LOVELY WIFE, THE POINT THAT SHE MADE OF A TIMELINE, REGARDLESS AIR, UH, MAYOR OR COUNCIL, IS THERE A TIMELINE? AS SHE MENTIONED, INDIVIDUALS, UM, ALL OF US SHOULD BE, UH, SHOULD BE, UH, WARRANTED TO, UH, PROVIDE AND DO, UH, EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO IN SUMMERS, ALMOST MOST PEOPLE DO THEIR EVENTS IN THE SUMMERTIME. 
          THAT WAS, YEAH, IT IS GETTING WARM. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A DRAFT IN TIME FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION. 
          DOES ANYONE THINK THAT'S NOT DOABLE? I THINK THAT'S DOABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO THE BUDGETING ASPECT OF IT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE HAVE TO WORK IN CONCERT, BUT WE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT FOR WHEN WE'RE HAVING BUDGET MEETINGS AS WELL TO HAVE TO DISCUSS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WILL AIM FOR THAT, UH, FOR THE MARCH WORK SESSION PACKET. 
          SORRY, YOU WEREN'T DONE. 
          NO, NO. 
          JUST A FOLLOW UP TO THAT THEN. 
          OKAY. 
          WORK SESSION. 
          AND THEN WHAT'S THE, NOT JUST FOR MY QUESTION, BUT ALSO TRANSPARENCY FOR OUR RESIDENTS. 
          WHAT THEN WOULD BE THE COURSE? SO, WE'LL, YEAH, SO THERE'LL BE A DRAFT FOR THE WORK SESSION. 
          WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT IF WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE, WE WILL PUBLISH ONE FOR PUBLISH A DOCUMENT TO ADOPT AT THE APRIL TOWN MEETING. 
          UH, IF WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE, WE'LL HAVE TO KICK IT TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION. 
          AND THEN IT WON'T BE VOTED ON UNTIL THE MAYTOWN MEETING. 
          I MEAN, I THINK ANYONE WOULD DISAGREE, BUT THE EARLIEST WOULD BE, IT COULD BE VOTED AS APRIL, THE APRIL TOWN MEETING, CORRECT? YES. 
          IF, IF THE WORK SESSION, YEAH. 
          I WOULD RATHER NOT ADOPT IT AT THE WORK SESSION. 
          EVEN IF WE ALL, EVERYBODY LOVES THE DRAFT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          DAVID, UM, SINCE THERE IS A BUDGET ELEMENT, THERE'S, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO MAKE A SPECIAL BUDGET FOR IT IF IT'S GONNA HAPPEN BEFORE THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR MR. GALLOWAY. 
          IS THERE, CAN WE, CAN WE SHAKE THE COUCH CUSHIONS TO FUND ANY OF THESE BEFORE JULY? OR DO WE NEED A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT? AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET, BUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION. 
          AND THEN HOW DO YOU PREPARE THE 27 BUDGET FOR A TRANSPARENT LINE ITEM? DID YOU SIR, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I'M DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          IF ALL HEARTS ARE CLEAR ON THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO AN EASY TOPIC, WHICH IS CLAY BRICK ROAD. 
          UM, SO I WANTED TO HAVE AN INTER JUST A, A KIND OF A BRIEF A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE, UM, PROJECT THAT THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER HAVE ENVISIONED FOR THIS PROPERTY. 
          UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANNA USE THE WRONG TERM, BUT THE CONCRETE PATCHING PLANT, UH, I THINK IT'S ABOUT SIX AND A HALF ACRES ISH, UH, JUST NORTH OF SHERIFF ROAD UP CLAYBROOK ROAD. 
          SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, A QUARTER MILE OR A HALF MILE TO REED STREET, UH, UH, WHERE THE TOWN STARTS. 
          UH, IT IS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE CITY OF FAIRMONT HEIGHTS THAN IT IS TO CH BUT KIND OF EQUAL. 
          AND THEN THE CITY OF SEAT PLEASANT IS NOT TOO FAR AWAY. 
          UM, THE, WE ARE SO, SO BACK TO BACK UP A STEP, I SENT LETTERS, UH, TO MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ASKING, UH, WHERE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS PROJECT? AND CAN YOU FACILITATE A MEETING? UM, THAT, UH, HAS PRODUCED SOME MOVEMENT. 
          UH, WE HAVE HAD THAT, WHEN I SAY WE, UM, MR. GALLOWAY, COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI AND I MET WITH GLENN FROM, UH, WHO IS KIND OF THE PUBLIC 
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AFFAIRS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMPANY THAT'S BASED IN RESTON THAT WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          WE HAD ONE CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS WEEK, COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI CAN SPEAK TO EARLIER, UH, ONE EARLIER CONVERSATION I BELIEVE HE'S HAD WITH HIM. 
          UM, AND, UM, THE, WHAT ELSE DO I WANNA SAY? THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION FROM ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO, I THINK IS STILL APPLICABLE IN THE SITUATION. 
          UH, AND SO, UH, WE INTEND TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM. 
          UM, WE INTEND, I INTEND, I THINK UNLESS YOU ALL TELL ME NOT TO, TO HAVE, UH, AS BROAD MEETINGS AS POSSIBLE WITH HIM, WE WILL HAVE TO PUSH THEM A LITTLE BIT TO DO THAT. 
          UM, I AM ALSO GOING, AND I'M GONNA TELL THEM I'M GONNA DO THIS 'CAUSE I OWE THEM A FOLLOW UP. 
          TELL THE DEVELOPER, I'M GONNA DO THIS AND THEN DO IT. 
          REACH OUT TO THE CITY OF FAIRMONT HEIGHTS AND THE CITY OF SEAT PLEASANT, UH, TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE ON THIS AND TRY TO JOINTLY, UM, COME UP WITH AN APPROACH TO THIS. 
          DO YOU WANT TO SAY ? UM, THAT THERE'S SORT OF TWO IMPORTANT THINGS. 
          ONE MAY NOT MATTER TO ANYBODY, BUT JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW, IT IS AN ENCLOSED PLANT. 
          UM, SO IT IS NOT AN OPEN AIR, UH, SITE. 
          UM, AND SO THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT MATTERS SINCE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL PARTICULATE MATTER AND WHATEVER. 
          AND, AND I'VE NOT YET GOTTEN ANY OFFICIAL, UM, METRIC TO USE TO SAY WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH BETTER THAT IS. 
          UH, BUT THE BIG ONE THAT I WANT TO SAY, AND MICAH AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS, IS WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS OF, UH, THE APPEAL PROCESS IS. 
          AND SO WE'VE NOW ASKED MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET A CLEAR RECORD BECAUSE WE'RE AT LEAST, I'M TRYING TO BE VERY CAREFUL, UH, NOT TO SAY ANYTHING REALLY UNTIL I KNOW THE STATUS TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM NOT, UH, ACCIDENTALLY, UH, MOVING THE PROCESS FORWARD. 
          THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENTLY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER FRY, WHEN YOU DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO C PLEASANT AND FAIRMONT HEIGHTS. 
          FAIRMONT HEIGHTS, UM, IF WE COULD JUST MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE, UH, NORTH ENGLEWOOD. 
          YES. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A HUNDRED FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL ZONES, SO, RIGHT. 
          UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE OLD FOURTH WARD IS CIVIC ASSOCIATION IS, UH, REPRESENTED. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE, I THINK THE COMMENT, THE, THE ADVICE IS JUST, OKAY, GREAT. 
          YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE FORMAL CITIES, BUT DON'T FORGET NORTH INGLEWOOD CIVIC ASSOCIATION, OF COURSE, THE OLD FOURTH WARD, UH, CIVIC ASSOCIATION IN CH CEDAR HEIGHTS, ET CETERA. 
          UM, AND I THINK FORTUNATELY ALL OF THESE ARE IN COUNCIL MEDIC FIVE, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SYNERGY THERE. 
          UM, BUT YES, AND AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, AS MAYOR, I WAS GONNA REACH OUT TO THE MAYORS AND THE COUNCILS, UM, BUT WE CAN ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS. 
          UM, AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER. 
          AND, UM, YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNCIL, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT, MR. GALLOWAY? YEAH, JUST SO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL KNOWS, I REACHED OUT TO TOWN ATTORNEY POUNDS TO, UM, DO A LITTLE RESEARCH FOR US AS IT RELATES TO WHERE WE ARE IN THE COURT, WHAT THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS, HOW DOES THAT APPLY, ET CETERA. 
          SO, UM, ATTORNEY PAL HAS INDICATED THAT HE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE COUNTY AND TO, UH, ATTORNEY HALLER, UM, AS HE IS THE OPPOSING ATTORNEY, UH, FOR BALKAN. 
          SO, UM, AS SOON AS WE GET SOME INFORMATION, UH, WE'LL PASS THAT ALONG TO, UH, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          SO AGAIN, I IMAGINE WE WILL TRY TO FACILITATE A PUBLIC MEETING. 
          UM, POS I'D LIKE TO ASK GLEN COBB TO MEET ALSO WITH MAYBE JOINTLY WITH THE CH PLANNING BOARD IN GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, ANYWAY, WE'LL TRY TO STRUCTURE IT AND SEE HOW FAR WE CAN PUSH THEM TO DO PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
          UNLESS THERE'S MORE FROM THE COUNCIL. 
          LET'S JUST SEE IF THERE'S PUBLIC INPUT, UH, AT THIS POINT ON VULCAN. 
          JULIE MOSLEY, WARD TWO. 
          AGAIN, THANK YOU MAYOR WATSON FOR THOSE TWO LETTERS. 
          IT, UH, IT, IT WAS SOMETHING WE, UH, E-A-N-G-I-C RECOMMENDED LAST SEPTEMBER, AND IT DID CREATE 
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SOME MOVEMENT. 
          UH, EA HAS MEMBERS FROM MANY OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND WE TOO HAVE ASKED M-D-E-M-D-E TO MEET WITH US AND VULCAN, AND WE HAVE ONLY HEARD UNTIL TONIGHT THAT, UM, THEIR LATEST RENDITION, WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE 18 YEARS AGO, IS THAT WE'VE ONLY HEARD THAT THROUGH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, UH, ADAM STAFFORD'S OFFICE, THAT IT'S ENCLOSED MM-HMM . 
          AND I WOULD JUST SAY EA T'S POSITION AND G'S POSITION IS THAT ONLY RESOLVES SOME ISSUES. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S NOT A SILVER BULLET. 
          IT'S NOT A SILVER BULLET. 
          IT IS GOING TO AFFECT ALL OF THESE COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, AND ANYBODY SHOULD DRIVE DOWN THOSE ROADS AND SEE THE TWO CONCRETE BATCHING FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE NOW, UH, ONE OF WHICH HAS HAD MULTIPLE INFRACTIONS WITHIN MD UH, OVER THE YEARS AND SEE THE FUGITIVE DUST AND, AND ALL OF THAT. 
          THE PART OF TOWN HERE IN CHEVROLET THAT'S MOST AFFECTED IS OLD WARD FOUR, OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND THEY ARE ALREADY INUNDATED WITH ALL OF THIS. 
          SO THIS IS A, I THINK, A HUGE DEAL. 
          I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE HAVING THE ATTORNEYS LOOK AT IT BECAUSE IT'S MOVING AND, UM, I'M SURE VULCAN HAS ALREADY APPROACHED OTHER COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEY ARE, THEY'RE MOVING. 
          SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SENDING THE LETTERS. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, THAT WAS THE SWEET PART OF IT. 
          HERE COMES THE MEDICINE SALTY, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. 
          UM, LET ME START WITH THIS. 
          I'M JUST, SORRY. 
          YOUR NAME, YOUR NAME, MR. GALLOWAY, THAT HE WAS LOOKING FOR A MEETING WITH, UM, BETWEEN, WITH MR. POUNDS AND MR. UM, AND MR. HALLER. 
          MR. HALLER, OF COURSE, WAS ON, WAS WAS THE CHS UM, LAWYER IN THE, UH, IN THE ORIGINAL APPEAL CASE. 
          UM, SO HE KNOWS ALL OUR INS AND OUTS. 
          UH, AND I HEARD THAT SAME STATEMENT THAT THE TWO LAWYERS WERE COMING TO GOING TO BE COMING TOGETHER IN 2024. 
          ALSO, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT APPEAL MR. TANZI IS TALKING ABOUT. 
          IS THIS SOMETHING NEW? IS THIS THE APPEAL THAT WAS ALREADY, UH, IN THE, THE, UM, COUNTY? WELL, LET'S SEE, WHICH WAS, UM, LOOKS, UH, YES. 
          THE MARYLAND STATE SUPREME COURT, WHICH IS THE COURT OF SPECIAL APPEALS, UM, AND, UH, CHEVROLET, THE COALITION OF THE TOWN OF CHEVROLET, CHAPEL OAKS, PROGRESSIVE CHEVROLET UNIVERSITY, MARYLAND, AND OTHERS LOST THE APPEAL IN 2013. 
          ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER APPEAL? THIS IS MY REPORT FROM 2 20 24. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S BEEN OUT THERE. 
          THIS IS THE HISTORY. 
          SO NOW WE'RE FINDING OUT, OF COURSE, THAT THIS IS, IS STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN. 
          I DON'T SEE THE REASON GOING BACK AND BACK TRYING TO FIND THIS MATERIAL THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAS THE MEDICINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I AM ALSO CONFUSED. 
          UM, BUT MY, BUT MY UNDER, I THINK THE, I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER IS FRUSTRATED THAT, UH, THEIR RIGHT TO DEVELOP THE SITE HAS BEEN FRUSTRATED BY FOLKS AND THAT THEY MAY BE PURSUING ACTION, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND, UH, MY CONVERSATION 
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WITH VULCAN WAS NOT CLARIFYING ON THAT POINT. 
          YES, YES, PLEASE. 
          SO, DITTO . 
          UM, SO SOME OF THE REASON, UH, I'M BEING CAREFUL IS THE ONLY INFORMATION THAT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN HAS BEEN GIVEN BY THE DEVELOPER. 
          OH. 
          SO I, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO FIND OFFICIAL SOURCES TO DIG THROUGH ALL OF THIS. 
          UH, BECAUSE I OBVIOUSLY APPROACHED THAT WITH SKEPTICISM. 
          I DON'T MEAN LITERALLY THERE'S NO OTHER INFORMATION OUT THERE. 
          I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A COPY OF WHAT YOU'VE PRODUCED. 
          UM, BUT I, I, MY GENERAL POSITION IS IF THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO DO IT, THEY'D BE DOING IT. 
          AND SO IF THEY'RE NOT DOING IT, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT. 
          AND SO YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY NEED AN MDE FIRM AND I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GET IT AND WHAT OUR ROLE IS IN THAT PERMITTING, WHAT, WHAT LEVERS WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO DO THIS BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, MICAH WANTS TO KNOW THE SAME INFORMATION SO THAT WE'RE GOING INTO THESE DISCUSSIONS INFORMED, AND WE'RE NOT ACCIDENTALLY AGREEING TO THINGS THAT WE DON'T MEAN TO AGREE TO. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'VE, I'VE TRIED TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS IN MY LANGUAGE WITH GLEN, UM, AND IN OUR, IN OUR JOINT MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JOYCE, YOU'RE UP. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          JOYCE JONES. 
          WARD TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT RIGHT THIS TIME. 
          AND I'LL, I'LL START A PRECEDENT HERE WHERE I'M GONNA USE A MINUTE OF MY TIME IN SILENCE. 
          I'M GONNA HOLD UP THIS FABULOUS, THIS CAN BE YOURS, CHEVROLET GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE DOCUMENT, WHICH HAS PICTURES, WEBSITES, TABLES. 
          THERE'S ONE ACTUAL FACTS THAT HAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS. 
          YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO IT. 
          IT'S BEEN REPORTED ON MANY, MANY TIMES AT MEETINGS, PROVIDED MANY TIMES, UH, WE TALK ABOUT IT IN OUR GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WHICH CONTRARY TO PROPERLY BELIEF, IT'S STILL IN EXISTENCE AND STILL A VERY VITAL PART OF THE TOWN. 
          BEING A LITTLE FACETIOUS HERE, OF COURSE, I JUST WANNA END BY SAYING, I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS TOWN HAS ENORMOUS RESOURCES OF SMART, HARDWORKING, TALENTED PEOPLE WITH BACKGROUNDS I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO TOUCH, UH, WHO BRING SO MUCH OF THIS TOWN. 
          TALK ABOUT TOWN RESOURCES. 
          THE TOWN HAS SAVED, I CAN'T TELL ME, THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. 
          THIS TOWN IS SAVED BY COMMIT, VOLUNTEER INPUT. 
          SO USE THAT INPUT, LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, AND UM, KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE. 
          IT'S NOT ALL TOP DOWN. 
          LOVE TO HAVE YOU PAY MORE ATTENTION TO STUFF. 
          DAVID, UM, AS A SPECIAL PRIZE FOR TONIGHT, SHEILA IS GONNA AWARD THIS TO YOU. 
          FEEL FREE TO FEEL FREEDOM. 
          PASS IT AROUND. 
          DOESN'T GET BETTER THAN THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE SHOW AND THE TELL. 
          UH, ALRIGHT. 
          HI. 
          EVERYBODY SMILING AT ME. 
          HALF THE, HALF THE TABLE'S LAUGHING AND HALF ISN'T. 
          WONDER WHY NOT ? I'M BAD. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I DO NOT INTEND TO GIVE UP ANY OF MY THREE MINUTES TO SILENCE. 
          UM, NAME LEI WARD ONE. 
          UM, THERE IS NO TIME TO WAIT. 
          WE'VE ALREADY WASTED AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF TIME THAT QUITE SERIOUSLY. 
          AND I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE SAID IT JOVIALLY. 
          I UNDERSTAND, BUT, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          BUT THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LABOR AND IT HASN'T BEEN GUESSWORK. 
          IT HAS BEEN THE RESEARCH PROVIDING THE INFORMATION SO THAT THE TOWN COULD ACT IN THE TOWN'S ROLE TO, TO PUT OUT LETTERS TO MAKE THESE REQUESTS. 
          AND WE APPRECIATE THAT IT'S BEEN DONE NOW, BUT THAT ALSO HAS BEEN LATER THAN IDEAL. 
          IT HAS PROMPTED ACTION, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE TIME. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING FURTHER, UM, WORK TO FIND THINGS OUT, YOU HAVE THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE HERE. 
          YOU HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ACTION TEAM HERE. 
          THE AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT WE HAVE PUT INTO THIS, YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE. 
          AND, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE TALKING WITH THESE GROUPS AND THEN 
          [02:50:01]
ALSO REALIZING THAT THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS 20 YEARS AGO NEEDS TO GO INTO THIS AGAIN, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THE DC CIRCULATOR MM-HMM . 
          BY THESE GROUPS AND THIS EFFORT AND A VOLUNTEER FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS THIS EFFORT. 
          WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT NOW. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT WHO'S CAUSING VULCAN PROBLEMS THAT THEY MIGHT WANNA DO WHATEVER BECAUSE NOBODY'S BEEN ABLE TO TALK WITH VULCAN. 
          SO, SO I MEAN THERE'S THAT AND, AND YES, THEY WILL NEED A PERMIT TO THE BEST OF OUR UNDERSTANDING. 
          THEY HAVE TO THE, I WON'T EVEN SAY TO THE BEST OF OUR UNDERSTANDING, THEY HAVE NOT APPLIED FOR A PERMIT. 
          HMM. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ASKING THAT QUESTION OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE WOOL PULLED OVER OUR EYES AND BE IN A SITUATION THAT IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE IN NOW. 
          THAT THEY'VE DONE A STUDY A FEW YEARS AGO, AN AIR QUALITY STUDY, AND THAT HASN'T BEEN GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND YES, THE ENCLOSED DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          YOU HAVE THE FUGITIVE DUST, YOU HAVE THE IMPACT TO ALL THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND YOU HAVE MORE HEAVY DIESEL TRAFFIC ON ALREADY BUSY ROADS. 
          YOU HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL OPERATION THAT IN AN AREA WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE OVERLOOKED, UNDERSERVED OVERBURDENED COMMUNITIES THAT ARE STAYING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          WE CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. 
          CEDAR HEIGHTS IS RIGHT ACROSS THERE. 
          SO THAT'S MY TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PLEASE, LET'S NOT DRAG THIS OUT. 
          WE NEED TO BE ACTING NOW. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT ON PLAY BREAK? MR. REDDICK? MR. REDDICK WELCOME. 
          CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          IF YOU CAN HEAR US. 
          HE HAS TO ACCEPT IT. 
          HAS TO ACCEPT. 
          HE DID. 
          YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THE PROMOTION, MR. REDDICK. 
          ALRIGHT, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, SIR, GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WAS, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE TO THIS MEETING AND, UH, I HAD NOT BEEN AWARE OF THE VULCAN PROBLEM PREVIOUSLY, BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND WE WANT TO BE A PART OF A OPPOSITION TO ANYTHING THAT INCREASES THE CORE AIR QUALITY CONTROL THAT WE ARE NOW RECEIVING. 
          AND, UH, ARE THERE ANY MORE MEETINGS IN REFERENCE TO CONSOLIDATING OUR EFFORTS TO OPPOSE THIS? OR HAVE THERE BEEN ANY MEETINGS PREVIOUSLY? AND IF SO, UH, WHEN DO THEY OCCUR? AND ARE YOU PLANNING ANYMORE AT THIS POINT? THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR. 
          YES. 
          WE WILL KEEP YOU APPRISED OF, UH, OF FUTURE MEETINGS. 
          UH, AND WE WILL HAVE A FEW FOLKS CALL YOU IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS TO, UH, WITH THE LATEST, UM, THAT EA AND OTHERS ARE DOING ON IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WITH RESIDENT INPUT ON CLARE VULCAN? I GUESS WE'LL CALL IT FROM NOW ON. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HEARING NONE COUNSEL. 
          UH, WE ARE AT THREE, UH, TWO HOURS AND 57 MINUTES. 
          UH, SO DO YOU WANT TO PUNT THE STRATEGIC PLAN DISCUSSION, MAYOR? YES. 
          UH, TO BE HONEST, UM, FOR, UH, AGENDA 11TH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THESE JUST YET FOR, UH, CSA. 
          SO WE COULD PROBABLY FLY BY THAT AS IN MORE UPDATES. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SO DONE. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          SO DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN? I THINK I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS MR. GARCIA'S QUESTION THAT YES, THAT THING THAT I CALLED THE KILMER STREET PARK ARBORETUM PATH IS THE PATH WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. 
          OH YEAH. 
          SO THAT IS IN THERE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S ON THE LONG LIST, THE QUE YOU KNOW, SO THEN WE HAVE TO WORK TO MAKE SURE IT MAINTAINS A PRIORITY. 
          BUT IT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT REFERS TO. 
          I MEAN, IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS IN THE LIST. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET PUSHED FURTHER BACK. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE'RE LIKE IN WHAT YEAR THREE NOW? LONG THAN THAT. 
          WE SIX ALMOST. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING I THINK JUST TOO EARLY WE WE'RE GETTING APPLYING FOR GRANTS TO OTHER THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, OFFENSES AND STUFF AND, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE AT WITH THE, UH, PATHWAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT, I MEAN, AND THE ONLY, AND HONESTLY MAIN REASON ALSO 
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WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP 'CAUSE MY RESIDENTS ARE STARTING TO QUESTION WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          I DON'T, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER WHEN ALL THIS FIRST STARTED WAS, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS ACTUALLY AT SHELBY STATION BARLEY, WHICH IS ALMOST, ALMOST, WHAT, ALMOST A 900,000 SOME CHANGE RESIDENTS MM-HMM . 
          ARE ASKING FOR THIS PATHWAY. 
          AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE WHOLE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH ICE AND THEM NOT WANTING TO WALK ON LAND OF A ROAD, YOU KNOW? UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HAVE OTHER ACCESSIBLE WALKWAYS INTO THE INNER TOWN. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON EVERYBODY'S RADAR THAT, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT MY PATHWAY, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO OUR PATH, SORRY, OUR PATHWAY, MY, YOU KNOW, I BE REAL PASSIONATE ABOUT MY THINGS. 
          , YOU KNOW, OUR PATHWAY, UM, AND HUH , YOU KNOW, SO LET, LET US, UM, LET US DEFER THE CONVERSATION, UM, AT, BUT, BUT YES, UH, WE DO NEED, AT A MINIMUM GUYS, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH PRIORITIES ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR TO CREATE CIP PAGES FOR ET CETERA. 
          WE HAVE A BUDGET DISCUSSION IN PROBABLY TWO WEEKS. 
          THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S REVENUE, BUT STILL. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TONIGHT. 
          BUT MR. GALLOWAY, YOU HAVE A FINAL THOUGHT ON THIS TOPIC? YEAH, JUST VO KEYS ONE OF, UH, ONE OF A GREAT PUBLIC ADMINISTRATOR IN BUDGET BUDGETING. 
          HE BROUGHT UP THE FACT, AND YOU CAN GO AND READ THIS ARTICLE. 
          IT'S CALLED THE LACK OF BUDGETARY THEORY. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE WITH THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THEORY AND, AND PRACTICE ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF BUDGETING, ACCOUNTING, ET CETERA. 
          BUT WHENEVER WE GO INTO ACTUALLY SELECTING WHAT GETS FUNDED, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY, JUST SORRY. 
          MATTER OF ORDER, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS MEETING 'CAUSE WE ARE AT THREE HOURS AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUE IT OR END IT SECOND. 
          I MEAN, CAN, CAN WE JUST LET IT YES. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          YES. 
          DO YOU WANNA DO IT NOW AND THEN COME BACK TO HIM? WELL, IT'S, IT'S 10 30, SO, OKAY, SO THERE'S A MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW, HOW LONG? 10 MINUTES. 
          30 MINUTES, JOHN? 15. 
          15 MINUTES. 
          SO THE MOTION, I'LL SECOND 15. 
          THERE'S A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING UNTIL 10 45. 
          THERE'S BEEN A SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR BRINER. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE A AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, ANY ABSTENTIONS THAT PASSES SIX ZERO. 
          MR. GALLOWAY, THE FLOOR IS STILL YOURS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, KEY KEYS GO ON IN THE ARTICLE TO, TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE ALL THESE CONCEPTS FOR BUDGETING AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF BUDGETING, DIFFERENT KINDS OF BUDGETING, BUT HOW DO WE DETERMINE AS A PUBLIC BODY WHAT GETS FUNDED? SO I THINK OUR BUDGET IN GENERAL IS PRETTY STRUCTURED AS FAR AS THE REVENUES, THE ADMINISTRATION, POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS, ET CETERA. 
          HOWEVER, WHEN IT GETS TO THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, I WANT YOU ALL TO JUST KEEP IN CONSIDERATION SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IN THE PAST ALONG WITH SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HELLO? OKAY. 
          SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE HAD IN OBTAINING FUNDING FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS. 
          I DO KNOW THAT IN COUNCIL MEMBER GARTH'S POINT, WE HAVE BEEN APPLYING FOR FUNDING FOR NUMEROUS OF YEARS TO TRY TO GET FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDING THERE. 
          BUT, UH, THE, THE, THE ARTICLE GOES ON AND PRETTY MUCH TALKS ABOUT IT SHOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF OUR VALUES AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE GOVERNING BOARD SHOULD MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, BUT HOW YOU MAKE 'EM SO MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETELY UP IN YOUR HANDS WHENEVER WE GET TO THAT POINT. 
          OKAY? BUT I DO WANT YOU ALL TO START TO LOOK AT WHAT THESE PRIORITIES ARE BECAUSE AS WE'RE PUTTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER, WE ALWAYS SAY IT'S A HARD BUDGET YEAR EVERY YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S JUST A PHRASE. 
          THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PHRASE THAT'S GOING ON IN THE STATE. 
          THAT'S A PHRASE THAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, BUT IT'S REALITY. 
          IT'S NOT JUST A PHRASE AND IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR US THIS YEAR AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, LOOK AT THESE PRIORITIES AND GIVE ME SOME REAL FEEDBACK BECAUSE MM-HMM . 
          THAT IS A LONG LIST. 
          OKAY? AND I JUST WANT TO TEMPER EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE WE GOT SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUBLIC SAFETY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET. 
          SO WHATEVER ROOM THERE IS LEFT FOR , THE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. 
          I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND 
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I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I HAD TO WRITE A PAPER ON THAT ARTICLE TOO, BY THE WAY, SO THAT'S WHY. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          SOUNDS LIKE WE LOOK FORWARD TO READING IT. 
          UH, ITEM 10 IS YOUR UPDATE AND WE ARE DOWN TO, UH, 12 MINUTES. 
          ALRIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          LAST MONTH I INDICATED TO YOU ALL AND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD ON PROJECT RESTORE FUNDING, UM, FOR THE PROJECT THAT WAS LOCATED AT THE FORMER WALGREENS. 
          UM, IT'S GONNA BE CONVERTED INTO AN ACE HARDWARE, UM, WITH A COFFEE SHOP AND A SPACE FOR, UM, COMMUNITY TO LEARN HOW TO, UM, DO PROJECTS THERE BECAUSE THE OWNER OR THE OWNER OF THE ACE HARDWARE COULDN'T MEET CERTAIN MANDATES AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE, WE HAD TO RELIEVE THE FUNDS BACK TO THE STATE. 
          UM, UH, THE OWNER HAS BEEN NOTIFIED, UM, SHE WAS, UM, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE TOWN'S WORK TO TRY TO, UM, UH, INCLUDE HER IN THE, BUT WE ARE WORKING TO ASSIST HER WITH SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE D UH, DHCD. 
          UM, AND WE DO HAVE THEIR SUPPORT IN THIS. 
          AS IT RELATES TO, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, WE RECEIVED A 177,000 BLOCK GRANT FOR A RESURFACING PROJECT OF BOYD PARK. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES THE BASKETBALL COURTS, THE TENNIS COURTS, AND THE HALF COURT THAT'S THERE. 
          AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN NEEDED FOR YEARS. 
          SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT, UH, THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING THOSE HAPPEN AS SOON AS WE CAN. 
          UM, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW WE WILL BE RELEASING AN UPDATED LEAVE SCHEDULE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE DUE TO THE INCLEMENT WEATHER. 
          WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR YOU ALL TO BE PATIENT WITH US. 
          UM, PUBLIC, PUBLIC WORKS WILL RELEASE, UM, SOME TOWN WIDE OPTIONS SO THAT WE CAN PICK UP LEAVES, BUT PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, UM, WITH THE, UM, WINTER STORM FIRM, THIS PAST WINTER STORM, AND I THINK THERE'S ONE ON THE FORECAST FOR MONDAY AND TUESDAY. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH US AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          UM, I DON'T WANNA SEE ANY MORE SNOW AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT SENTIMENT IS THE SAME, RIGHT? , UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH EVENT, I DO WANT TO THANK, UH, THE TOWN STAFF, UM, THE MAYOR, MS. BROWN, UM, AND EVERYONE INVOLVED FOR EXECUTING SUCH A WONDERFUL EVENT. 
          UM, I HEARD IT WAS GREAT LAST NIGHT. 
          ALSO, MAJOR SHOUTS OUT TO MAJOR SHOUTS OUT TO MS. V AND MS. BROWN FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE IN COORDINATING THE TOWN BOARD, UM, AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF BLACK HISTORY AND CHEVROLET. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT I WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF IS THE EXPUNGEMENT FAIR THAT THE STATE'S ATTORNEY WILL BE HAVING HERE WILL HAPPEN ON SATURDAY, MARCH THE 21ST, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 2:00 PM AND 6:00 PM MAYOR AND COUNSEL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT EVENT, UH, PLEASE LET US KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY IF YOU ALL WANT TO VOLUNTEER. 
          UH, WE ARE ACCEPTING VOLUNTEERS FOR THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          UM, SOME MORE GREAT NEWS IN BOYD PARK. 
          THE BOYD PARK ELECTRONIC GATE HAS BEEN INSTALLED. 
          IT IS NOW OPERATIONAL THANKS TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ON MAKING THIS HAPPEN. 
          UM, IT, IT, IT OPENS AT 7:00 AM AND CLOSES AT 7:00 PM SO THIS HELPS WITH, UM, KEEPING THE PARK SAFE, BUT ALSO, UM, IT OPEN AND, AND CLOSING AT CERTAIN TIMES. 
          HISTORICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, TOWN STAFF WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR OPENING AND CLOSING AND, AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY ON OPENING AND CLOSING THE GATE. 
          NOW, UM, WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON THE, THE TIMING OF THE GATE. 
          JUST A FEW MORE THINGS. 
          ME, MR. GALLOWAY, JUST ONE, UH, MS. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          WADE HAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE EXPUNGEMENT FARE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. 
          WE JUST HAD A, UH, A REC COUNCIL MEETING FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          UM, THAT IS THE DATE OF THE ADULT GAME NIGHT, UH, FOUR TO 10:00 PM THE 21ST. 
          IS THAT THE SAME DATE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IF I MAY. 
          MR. GALLOWAY? YVONNE. 
          OKAY. 
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HELLO ALL. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH MS. V AND THE REC COUNSEL, AND THAT HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED TO SUNDAY, MARCH 15TH. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'LL BE FROM ONE TO 9:00 PM SHE WAS MY FIRST CALL WHEN THE STATE ATTORNEY FINALIZED THE MARCH 21ST EVENT. 
          GOOD CATCH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT AGAIN, WHAT'S THE, THIS, UH, THE 22ND. 
          15TH. 
          15TH. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK IT'S CORRECT IN THE LIST AT THE BACK OF THE REPORT. 
          OKAY, GOT IT. 
          I DIDN'T SEE THAT. 
          GOT IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT FY 27 EARMARKS. 
          YEAH. 
          FY 2027 EARMARKS, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, IF YOU HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR EARMARKS, I WILL BE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ON, UH, MAKING SOME REQUESTS FOR ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN. 
          AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE RECEIVED $650,000 FOR THE 2 0 1 BIKE TRAIL. 
          UM, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR PROJECTS THAT WILL HAVE A LARGE SCALE COMMUNITY IMPACT. 
          UM, THOSE ARE LIKELY TO GET CONSIDERATION. 
          I'M NOT GONNA SAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKELY TO BE FUNDED, BUT IT'D BE, IT, IT, IT CAN BE CONSIDERED AND THEN KNOCKED DOWN AT A CERTAIN POINT. 
          SO WHATEVER TYPE OF LARGE SCALE COMMUNITY IMPACT THAT, UM, THAT YOU HAVE, PLEASE, UH, SEND AGAIN, THIS SAME ARAMARK WE APPLIED FOR PREVIOUSLY. 
          IT GOT DENIED. 
          I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR THE TRAIL, UM, BECAUSE THERE COULD BE DIFFERENT, UH, READERS OF THE, OF THE ARAMARK THAT COULD INTERPRET THINGS DIFFERENTLY. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST GET BETTER AS, AS THE YEARS GO ON AND WE JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN BRING MORE MONEY TO THE TOWN. 
          UM, ION COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO THE MARYLAND NATIONAL CAPITAL PARK AND PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ACADEMY THAT THEY HAVE INVITED, UM, ELECTED OFFICIALS TO, UH, TO TEACH YOU ABOUT HOW PLANNING WORKS THERE ON SATURDAY, MARCH THE 14TH. 
          THE REGISTRATION DETAILS ARE THERE FOR YOU TO SIGN UP FOR IT IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. 
          AND THE LAST THING, THE ELECTRONIC MUNICIPAL MARKET ACCESS FISCAL YEAR 25 FALLON IS COMPLETE. 
          UM, AND I DID THAT IN COORDINATION WITH ATTORNEY RADER AND OUR FINANCE ADVISOR, JENNIFER DICKERSON. 
          UM, AND THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR? NO, SIR. 
          UH, SEEING NONE, I JUST HAVE, UM, ONE POINT WE NEED TO GET THE MARQUEE UPDATE UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT THIS SNOW EMERGENCY SNOW PARKING CURRENTLY. 
          AND THEN NUMBER TWO, MR. BRAMAN, I WANTED TO ASK YOU TO COME TO THE MARCH, UM, TOWN MEETING WITH THE FLOWER PLAN FOR THE SPRING, UH, FOR THE PLANTER BOXES, ET CETERA. 
          LIKE ALL THE BEAUTIFUL COLORS WE'RE GONNA HAVE AT FOREST AND CH AND 2 0 2 IN CH AND ALL THE PLANTER BOXES. 
          THIS IS NEW. 
          WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT LIKE A LONG OKAY. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT, BUT IT CAN'T LOOK, IT CAN'T LOOK NEXT THIS SPRING LIKE IT DID THIS PAST YEAR. 
          THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. 
          SO I THINK MARCH IS THE TIME TO LIKE, COME UP WITH A GREAT PLAN TO MAKE IT LOOK SPIFFY. 
          IS IT ON OUR, YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THE CORNER OF FOREST AND CHEVROLET AVENUE? YES, THAT'S ONE OF THEM, YEAH. 
          BUMP OUTS. 
          WHEREVER, WHEREVER WE'VE DONE FLOWERS BEFORE. 
          WE DIDN'T DO THEM THIS YEAR, PARTICULARLY AT CH AND LANDOVER AND CH AT FOREST. 
          I HAVE TO CHECK THE OTHER BOXES. 
          I COULDN'T FIND A BOX AT BOYD PARK WHEN I DROVE BY, BUT I'LL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK. 
          I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR? YES, I DO. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT WE, WE DON'T DO LIKE RESIDENT QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR DURING THE REPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? GOOD? ALRIGHT. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          UH, WE'RE ON TO ITEM 12 'CAUSE YOU SAID WE COULD SKIP 11. 
          YOU STANDING BY THAT. 
          OKAY, SO FOR 12 I DON'T HAVE, UM, FOR, FOR MARCH 12TH, THE MEETING. 
          OKAY, SO, SO BACKING UP MARCH 5TH, LET'S ALL REMEMBER A WEEK FROM TONIGHT WE HAVE THE HOSPITAL HILL FORUM. 
          IT'S OFF CYCLE. 
          DON'T FORGET THAT. 
          AND THEN THE 12TH, I HAVE A FINANCIAL UPDATE FROM MR. GALLOWAY AND DIANE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THEN I JUST HAVE KELLER. 
          [03:10:01]
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON THE 12TH? WELL FLOWERS NOW? NO, NO, NO. 
          WE DON'T. 
          THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA. 
          IT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE PUBLIC WORKS REPORT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          BUT YES. 
          BRING FLOWERS. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON THE AGENDA. 
          YES. 
          UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOWN MEETING, NOT THE MEETING WORK SESSION. 
          TOWN MEETING. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL I THINK I'M TALKING WORK SESSION 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, UPDATES ON BEVERLY HILL. 
          PPS, UH, RIGHT. 
          SO WHY DON'T WE ALSO PUT ON THE 12TH, THE HOSPITAL AND THEN, UM, THAT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY HAVE, HAVE TO ALSO BE ON THE 26TH, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. 
          BUT YES, I IMAGINE AROUND THE END OF THE MONTH WE'RE GONNA NEED TO COME UP WITH A WRITTEN SOMETHING, SOMETHING COOL. 
          ANYTHING AND WE'LL NEED TO VOTE ON THAT AT THE APRIL TOWN MEETING. 
          OR IS THAT TOO LATE? I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO AGREE AT THE WORK SESSION ON WHAT THE WRITING FROM THE TOWN WILL BE ON THE HOSPITAL. 
          IF IT CAN WAIT TILL APRIL, GREAT. 
          I JUST DON'T THINK IT CAN, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE, I JUST THINK IF IT NEEDS A VOTE, YEAH, BUT WE CAN VOTE AT THE WORK SESSION. 
          I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO, UNLESS IT CAN WAIT PAST APRIL 1ST. 
          UH, ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS HEARING, UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN? I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GAR. 
          THERE WAS A SECOND FROM THE VICE MAYOR. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NO. 
          ANY ABSTENTIONS? IT PASSES SIX ZERO. 
          SO.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.