* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. AS AMENDED. IS THERE A SECOND? [00:00:01] SECOND. [* This meeting has been joined in progress *] [Work Session on July 23, 2026.] IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION PASSES, UH, FIVE ZERO. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS RANK CHOICE VOTING. LET US START BY HAVING A PRESENTATION FROM OUR ADVOCATES, UH, AND THEN WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC INPUT AND PLEASE, YEAH. STRUCTURE YOURSELVES, HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE. GO AHEAD. YOUR NAME AND YOUR WARD, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME'S CARLOS BERGER. I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD FOUR, AND ALSO A MEMBER OF PROGRESSIVE SHOVELING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US SOME TIME THIS EVENING TO SHARE, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RANK CHOICE VOTING AND WHY IT IS THAT WE'RE, UM, HOPING THAT THE TOWN WILL LOOK INTO THIS AND, AND CONSIDER, UH, ADOPTING IT. UM, I'M HERE THIS EVENING WITH, UH, NEIGHBOR AND ANOTHER PROGRESSIVE CH MEMBER, AND ALSO, UH, A, UH, LEADER IN THE STATEWIDE ADVOCACY GROUP, UH, TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION, AND THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO I'VE BEEN THINKING A LOT RECENTLY ABOUT WHAT MAKES A VOTING SYSTEM FAIR. MAYBE IT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THIS HAS BEEN ON MY MIND A LOT. UM, AND IN MY MIND THERE'S SORT OF THREE MAIN THINGS. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO WANNA RUN. YOU CAN'T HAVE A FAIR VOTING SYSTEM IF THERE'S NO ONE TO VOTE FOR. YOU GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANNA VOTE. SAME DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? NO ONE VOTES, NO WAY. IT CAN BE A FAIR ELECTION SYSTEM. AND THE THIRD THING IS THAT THE WINNER HAS TO REPRESENT THE VIEWS AND VALUES OF THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING. IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VOTING SYSTEM THAT ACTUALLY PRODUCES A WINNER IN LINE WITH THE VALUES AND THE IDEAS OF THOSE WHO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT, CAN'T POSSIBLY BE A FAIR VOTING SYSTEM. SO THE QUESTION IS, IS CHEVROLET'S CURRENT VOTING SYSTEM FAIR UNDER THAT DEFINITION? I MEAN, I THINK EVERYONE HERE PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE A FEW MORE CANDIDATES RUN. DEFINITELY THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO HAVE MORE CHOICE. CERTAINLY GETTING MORE PEOPLE TO VOTE WOULD BE A BIG PLUS, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE COULD SAY THAT OUR CURRENT VOTING SYSTEM ACTUALLY PRODUCES ALL THE TIME, PRODUCES WINNERS WHO REPRESENT THE VALUES AND THE VIEWS OF THE MAJORITY OF THEIR POPULATION, RIGHT? WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO, OKAY, SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WHAT'S WRONG? WHAT'S, WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR CURRENT WINNER? TAKE ALL PLURALITY VOTING SYSTEM WHERE WHOEVER GETS THE MOST VOTES IS DECLARED THE WINNER, EVEN IF IT'S FAR UNDER A MAJORITY. WELL, THE FIRST PROBLEM IS JUST THAT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE WINNER HAVE A MAJORITY SUPPORT, WHICH MEANS THAT SOMEONE COULD WIN WITH 10%, 12%, 15%, 30% OF THE VOTE. IT COULD VERY WELL BE THAT THE, EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT THE MOST VOTES, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR THEM, REALLY DID NOT WANT THAT PERSON ELECTED AND WOULD'VE SUPPORTED SOMEONE ELSE ABOVE THEM, AND EVEN MAYBE EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE ABOVE THEM. UM, IT ENCOURAGES ANTAGONISTIC CAMPAIGNING, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF I, MY JOB IS TO GO AND GET PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR ME INSTEAD OF YOU, I'M GOING TO JUST CONTINUALLY PUT DOWN THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN, IN THE WAY TO TRY TO GET ME TO WIN. AND IT'S GONNA CAUSE ALL KINDS OF FRICTION. AND I'M SURE, UH, ALL OF US HAVE SEEN THAT. UM, AND FINALLY, IT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO VOTE SOMETIMES FOR A CANDIDATE WHO HAS THE BEST CHANCE OF WINNING, NOT THE ONE WHO REPRESENTS YOUR BELIEFS. AND I'M SURE EVERYONE HERE AT SOME POINT IN YOUR LIFE HAS HAD TO DO SOME GAMESMANSHIP THE NIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION AND SAY, THIS IS THE PERSON I REALLY WANNA VOTE FOR, BUT THIS PERSON HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING AND I REALLY HATE THAT PERSON. AND SO I'M GONNA, AND THAT'S JUST DOES NOT TO ME SEEM LIKE THE WAY WE SHOULD BE DOING ELECTIONS. SO WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR CHANGE TO RANK CHOICE VOTING, AND, AND MY COLLEAGUES ARE GONNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT. BUT I, UH, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WROTE A PROPOSAL, WHICH WE INCLUDE IN YOUR MATERIALS, WHICH HAS MORE INFORMATION, AND WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH AND SUGGESTED LANGUAGE THAT YOU COULD USE IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD. UH, WE'VE ENGAGED A COMMUNITY AT CH DAY LAST YEAR. WE WENT TO THE DISCUSSION GROUP, A COUPLE CHEVROLET DISCUSSION GROUP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TALK TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE VOTERS. AND WE'RE HERE TO START THIS CONVERSATION. AND ASSUMING, UH, THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AFTER TONIGHT, WE DEFINITELY WOULD, UH, LOVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. SO I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO PAUL NOW, MICHELLE, OH, SORRY. MICHELLE . HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MICHELLE WHITAKER. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR RANK CHOICE VOTING MARYLAND. I AM A RESIDENT OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY. UM, AND I DO WORK ALL OVER, UH, THE STATE, REALLY HELPING TO JUST DISCUSS WHAT RANK CHOICE VOTING IS AND HOW IT MIGHT WORK, UH, FOR YOUR CONTEXT. UM, TODAY, UH, AS THE INTRO THAT CARLO PROVIDE, IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE, I'M GONNA JUST GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF [00:05:01] HOW IT WORKS AND A LITTLE BIT ON THE LIKE, TECHNOLOGY AND PROCEDURES WITH IT. AND TO HELP ME WITH DO THAT. I HAVE A LITTLE DEMONSTRATION HERE OF SOME LEGOS. UM, AND THIS IS FOR OUR MAYOR OF LEGOLAND. AND EACH ONE OF THESE BLOCKS REPRESENTS A VOTER'S VOTE. AND SO THE VOTE THERE, IT'S STACKED THERE WITH THEIR FIRST CHOICE, THEIR BACKUP CHOICES THERE, AND VOTERS CAN RANK AS MANY CANDIDATES OR AS FEW CANDIDATES AS THEY LIKE. SO THIS REPRESENTS ONE SINGLE VOTER'S VOTE. AND THEN ON THIS BOARD, YOU SEE ALL OF THE VOTES AFTER WE'VE, UH, RUN OUR, OUR RANKED CHOICE VOTING ELECTION. NOW, THE GOAL IN A RANK CHOICE VOTING ELECTION IS TO GET TO A MAJORITY, AS CARLOS SAID. AND FOR THIS ELECTION WITH 16 VOTES, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE TOP OF THIS BOARD. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS RIGHT NOW, NOLAN HAS REACHED THAT MAJORITY. UM, AND SO WITH RAY CHOICE VOTING, WHAT HAPPENS IS AN INSTANT RUNOFF KICKS IN WHERE YOU LOOK FOR THE, AT THE CANDIDATE WITH THE FEWEST VOTES. AND THAT CANDIDATE IS ELIMINATED IN OUR EXAMPLE HERE. THAT'S BLUE. SO SORRY, BLUE, HE'S OUT. BUT IF YOU ARE A BLUE VOTER, NOW YOU HAVE YOUR NEXT CHOICE COUNTED. SO THIS BECOMES A GREEN VOTE. THIS ONE BECOMES A YELLOW VOTE, ANOTHER GREEN VOTE. AND THIS FINAL BLUE VOTER BECOMES A YELLOW VOTER. AND YELLOW HAS REACHED THE TOP OF OUR BOARD AND IS OUR MAJORITY WINNER. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. VOTERS VOTE FOR THEIR FAVORITE CANDIDATE, THEY CAN RANK THEIR BACKUP CANDIDATES, AND ALL OF US HAVE, ARE UNLOCK THE ABILITY FOR US TO FULLY EXPRESS OUR VOTE AND GAIN REPRESENTATION THAT BETTER REPRESENTS US WITH A MAJORITY WINNER CANDIDATE. WHO ALSO GOES INTO, WHETHER IT'S GOING INTO A GENERAL ELECTION, IF YOU GO FROM A PRIMARY TO A GENERAL, GOES IN THERE WITH A CLEAR MANDATE, OR IF YOU JUST HAVE ONE ELECTION COMES OUT OF THAT ELECTION WITH A CLEAR MANDATE AND AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR COALITION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING THEM AND WHAT ISSUES MIGHT BE A PRIORITY. IT'S USED IN OVER 50 JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, UM, FROM CITIES TO, UH, STATES AND FOR VARIOUS ELECTIONS AT UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT. NOW, FROM AN ELECTION ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, PERSPECTIVE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT THESE LEGO BLOCKS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BALLOTS. THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT YOU CONSIDER. ONE IS HOW YOU DO THE BALLOT DESIGN. UM, AND WHETHER YOU ARE DOING, UH, A, AN ELECTION WITH ELECTION EQUIPMENT OR YOU'RE USING PAPER BALLOTS, YOU CAN DO THIS. TACOMA PARK HAS BEEN USING RANK CHOICE VOTING FOR 20 YEARS. THEY STARTED OFF USING PAPER BALLOTS AND DOING A, A HAND COUNT WHERE YOU COULD WATCH THEM PHYSICALLY MOVE A BALLOT FROM ONE UH, CANDIDATE TO THE NEXT WHEN THEIR VOTE WAS BEING TRANSFERRED FOR A PARTICULAR, UH, VOTER. SO YOU CAN DO THIS IN ALL TYPES OF ELECTION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, WE HAVE SUPPORT BECAUSE WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE FROM TACOMA PARK. WE ALSO HAVE KNOWLEDGE FROM ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA, WHICH HAS BEEN, IS USING IT, AND WASHINGTON DC THAT JUST STARTED USING IT, ALONG WITH A NATIONAL NETWORK OF ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS, UM, BOTH CURRENT AND FORMER ADMINISTRATORS WHO CAN HELP WITH DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF MAINTAINING AND ADMINISTERING YOUR ELECTION. UM, ONE INTERESTING THING IS WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE COST AND, UM, THE COST OF DOING THIS CAN VARY BASED ON YOUR JURISDICTION OF WHAT YOU NEED, HOW YOU, WHAT TECHNOLOGY WE MAY NEED, HOW YOU SET UP YOUR ELECTIONS, BUT IT CAN FIT IN WITH WHATEVER YOUR CURRENT STRUCTURE IS WITH CHANGES TO JUST LIKE THE BALLOT. UH, IF YOU ARE USING SOME CERTAIN TYPE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY, THERE MIGHT BE AN UPDATE YOUR TO YOUR ELECTION SYSTEM. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, VOTER EDUCATION IS A KEY PIECE OF THIS. UM, VOTER EDUCATION SHOULD HAPPEN IN ANY ELECTION REGARDLESS, BUT WE EMPHASIZE THE NEED FOR DOING THAT. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE AT, UH, RCV MARYLAND, ALONG WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT WORK WITH LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, IS SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS IN WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING TO VOTERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CO WE'RE USING THEIR LANGUAGE AND WE'RE HELPING TO REINFORCE THE MESSAGING THAT THEY'RE SAYING ABOUT HOW DO YOU RANK YOUR BALLOTS? HOW DO YOU PARTICIPATE IN THIS ELECTION? AND IN DC THEY DID THIS WITH NOT ONLY HAVING, UM, DOING TOWN HALLS AND COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS, BUT ALSO CANDIDATE TRAININGS, UM, FOR INDIVIDUALS ABOUT HOW DO YOU RUN IN A RANKED CHOICE VOTING ELECTION. SO I HOPE THAT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU SEE THE BENEFITS AND HOW IT COULD TIE INTO THE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW OR WHAT YOU MAY WANNA DO IN THE FUTURE. UM, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND WE HOPE YOU'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. SO, THANK YOU. [00:10:04] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M PAUL CRUZ. I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD TWO. ALRIGHT, NOW THAT THEY'VE GONE OVER EVERYTHING, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE ON SOME OF THE BENEFITS. FOR ONE, I THINK I WOULD JUST ARGUE THAT RANK CHOICE VOTING WOULD BE SIMPLER THAN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM FOR OUR VOTERS, JUST BECAUSE, AS CARLOS SAID, WHEN WE VOTE, OUR BALLOT IS GOING TO BE FULLY REFLECTIVE OF OUR OWN PREFERENCES ONCE WE STEP IN. AND THEN THAT JUST MEANS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE'RE NO LONGER WORRIED ABOUT OUR OBLIGATION TO VOTE FOR THE LESSER OF, YOU KNOW, THE LESSER EVIL TO TRY AND LIKE PIGEONHOLE OURSELVES INTO SUPPORTING THE MOST ELECTABLE OUT OF A CROWDED FIELD. THE RESULTS ARE GOING, ARE GUARANTEED TO BE FULLY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT A MAJORITY WANT IN OUR ELECTIONS. AND THAT IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN. MOST PEOPLE IN JURISDICTIONS WITH RCV AGREE ON. 90% OF NEW YORKERS FOUND IT INCREDIBLY SIMPLE. 80% OF ALASKANS, 82% OF MAINERS, AND RECENTLY 78% OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN DC DURING OUR LAST ELECTION, DURING THEIR FIRST ELECTION USING RCV. SO THIS IS VERY EASY AND INTUITIVE FOR VOTERS TO GRASP ONTO. AND FOR CANVAS, THIS IS ALSO GOING TO BRING A LOT OF BENEFITS BECAUSE NOW WHEN SOMEONE GOES AND RUNS AGAINST YOU, THAT'S NOT A CHALLENGE OR A THREAT. THAT'S NOW AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE HELPED IN ELECTIONS INSTEAD OF BY TRYING TO USE DIVISIVE RHETORIC. INSTEAD, YOU BENEFIT THE MOST BY TRYING TO FIND COMMON GROUND. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST SO CRUCIAL FOR OUR TOWN IN GENERAL, WHEN THE BENEFITS OVERALL THAT WE SEE IN CITIES AND STATES THAT IMPLEMENTED RCV WAS AN INCREASE IN TURNOUT, 17% ON AVERAGE. AND THEN ESPECIALLY IN CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF THE POPULATION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE YOUTH IN THE R-S-V-R-C-V JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE BOARD, YOUTH ARE MUCH MORE LIKELIER TO GO AND VOTE IN OUR ELECTIONS AND A 20 THAT'S FROM A 2021 STUDY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN. WE CAN GET YOU ANY OF THIS INFORMATION AFTER THE MEETING HERE, BUT YEAH, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HEARING US OUT ON THIS. I THINK IT, IT WAS, UH, WHEN I WAS MUCH YOUNGER HELPING TO ADVOCATE FOR, UH, THE VOTE 16 CAMPAIGN THAT STARTED ME ON THIS, UH, PATH FOR MY, WELL, I HOPE IS MY EVENTUAL CAREER. AND SO I REALLY JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE MEMBERS HERE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN TOWN POLITICS BACK THEN. 'CAUSE THAT REALLY DID INSPIRE ME ON WHAT YOUNG PEOPLE COULD ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL THREE OF YOU. UH, COUNSEL, ANY QUICK REACTIONS BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL MEMBER GARIS HAS JOINED US FOR THE RECORD. MR. TANZI, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. UM, MY MAIN QUESTION IS, UH, HOW MUCH MORE WORK DOES THIS PUT ON OUR VOLUNTEER ELECTION BOARD? THEY ALREADY HAVE TO WORK VERY, VERY HARD. UH, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IF WE ARE GOING TO EXPLORE THIS, IT IS VIABLE WITHOUT, SORRY, UH, MAJOR CHANGES AND, YOU KNOW, EXTRA PERSONNEL, ET CETERA. SO, UH, WHEN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS ADOPTED RANK CHOICE VOTING, UM, IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, UH, THEY ACTUALLY DID A STUDY, UH, AFTER, UH, ONE OF THEIR ELECTIONS, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE, BUT I'LL FIND THAT DATA FREE AS WELL, WHERE THEY NOT ONLY BROKE OUT, LIKE HOW DID THIS WORK FOR VOTERS, BUT HOW DID THIS IMPACT, OR WHAT IMPACT DID IT HAVE ON ELECTION ADMINISTRATION AND THE WORK THAT ELECTION, UH, UH, JUDGES DO. UM, AND IN THAT REPORT, IT SAID IT DID HAD MINIMAL IMPACT ON WHAT THEY WERE DOING ALREADY BECAUSE YOU CAN INCORPORATE IT INTO THE PIECES THAT FOLKS ARE DOING IN TERMS OF PROVIDING THE INSTRUCTIONS, ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS. UM, THERE'S PARTS THAT YOU SET UP IN TERMS OF A ONE TIME PROCESS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE OF LIKE, IT'S YOUR FIRST ELECTION, THERE'S NEW THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE TRAINED ON, OBVIOUSLY, BUT OVERALL, THE PROCESS WASN'T [00:15:01] ADDING MORE TIME TO WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE WORK ONCE THEY HAD THE, THE STRUCTURE. SO, UH, WE'LL GET YOU THE EXACT DATA ON THAT, BUT THAT WAS A, A SURVEY OF ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THIS IMPACTS THEM. OBVIOUSLY, DEPENDING ON OTHER CHANGES YOU MAKE TO YOUR ELECTIONS, IT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT THERE. SO YOU NEED TO JUST UNDERSTAND AND EVALUATE WHAT'S THE STAFF TIME FOR DOING DIFFERENT PIECES, HOW ARE YOU CREATING YOUR VOTER EDUCATION MATERIAL VOTER EDUCATION CAN BE AN ADD-ON TO WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE, NOT AN ADDITIONAL PIECE THAT'S SEPARATE FROM WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO IT, IT'S, THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ARE WHAT YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND AS YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS. UM, AND THEN PAUL CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO. YEAH, I GUESS JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE SYSTEM WILL ONLY INVOLVE, IT'LL ONLY EVER INVOLVE COUNTING A FRACTION OF THE VOTES FOR THESE SECOND AND THIRD ROUNDS IF WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT WHOEVER WON THE LEASE NUMBER IN EACH. SO WE DON'T NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IT AS WE'RE REDOING THE ENTIRE ELECTION FOR EVERY ROUND. JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MENTAL PIECE AND LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO VOTER EDUCATION, WE'RE NOT GOING AWAY AND WE WILL BE HELPING OUT, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING WITH THIS OUTREACH AFTER WE'RE DONE HERE. ALRIGHT, THANKS. UH, VICE MAYOR, UM, FIRST OF ALL, JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I'M SO GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THIS WORK. UM, I HAD TWO THINGS. UM, ONE IS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE WAY IT WORKS THAT THE RANK CHOICE VOTING ONLY BEGINS TO APPLY IF THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE CANDIDATES FOR EACH OFFICE. CORRECT. UM, WAS MY FIRST QUESTION. MY SECOND QUESTION MIGHT ACTUALLY BE FOR MR. DELOACH, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WE CANNOT VOTE TO MAKE CHANGES TO AN ELECTION AT WHICH WE COULD BE REELECTED. UM, AND SO I'M THINKING ABOUT WHEN THE NEXT POTENTIAL ELECTION COULD BE. IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS AT SOME POINT IN THIS TERM, UM, WOULD THAT BE THE NEXT MAYORAL ELECTION OR WOULD THAT BE NOT THE NEXT COUNCIL ELECTION? BUT THE ONE FOLLOWING, UH, IF I COULD ANSWER TO THE, THE FIRST PART, JUST TO ADD ONTO THAT, UM, SO WITH YOU ARE CORRECT THAT IF THERE'S ONLY TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING, YOU DON'T NEED TO USE RANK CHOICE VOTING. AND THE, YOU CAN SEE THIS IN, UH, TACOMA PARK, WHICH AS I SAID, HAS BEEN USING IT FOR 20 YEARS SINCE THEY'VE HAD IT. THEY'VE HAD, UH, COMPETITIVE MAYORAL RACES WHERE THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING, AND THE WARDS ARE VERY, SO SOME HAVE HAD REALLY COMPETITIVE WARDS, OTHERS HAVE NOT BEEN AS COMPETITIVE. AND WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT THEN THE BALLOT LOOKS LIKE HERE FOR THE MAYORAL RACE, IT'S A RANKED BALLOT, AND THEN NEXT TO IT IS THE WARD RACE, AND IT'S A VOTE FOR ONE BECAUSE IT'S TWO CANDIDATES ON THE ON LIST OF THERE. SO AGAIN, THE BALLOT CAN ACCOMMODATE HAVING BOTH TYPES, WHATEVER TYPES OF ELECTIONS OR OPTIONS FOR THE VOTER TO VOTE IN THAT. AND HAVING IT IN PLACE ALLOWS IT FOR WHEN THERE ARE CANDIDATES RUNNING, THEN YOU CAN USE IT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN PLACE AND YOU HAVE MORE CANDIDATES RUNNING, THAT'S TOO LATE TO SAY, CAN WE GET RANK CHOICE VOTING? SO, YEAH. MR. DELO, SO IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO IMPLEMENT THIS, THE QUESTION IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE IN THE NEXT ELECTION? IS THAT, WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? YES, YES. OKAY. IT, I WILL HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH IMPLEMENTING IT IN THE NEXT ELECTION. OKAY. BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE CANDIDATE'S GONNA BE. IT'S NOT LIKE A SALARY CHANGE. OKAY. WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU VOTE, YOU CAN'T VOTE FOR YOUR OWN SALARY. OKAY. UM, THAT IMPLEMENTS IMMEDIATELY. SO I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT, BUT MY GUT TELLS ME IT'S PROBABLY OKAY FOR THE NEXT ELECTION. I THINK TIMING WISE THOUGH, IT'S NOT OKAY BECAUSE IT'S IN LESS THAN A YEAR. WELL, WELL, I MEAN, THE TIMING OF IMPLEMENTING IT. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT CHANGE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD BE DONE, YOU KNOW, PROCEDURALLY, AND YOU CAN DO IT EFFECTIVELY BY THE NEXT ELECTION. THE COURT, UH, I TOOK A QUESTION, MEANING LEGALLY CAN IT BE DONE FOR THE NEXT ELECTION? AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT CHANGING IT. NOW, WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. SO THE COUNCIL MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, OKAY, THIS WILL BE FOR THE NEXT, NOT THIS UPCOMING ELECTION, BUT THE NEXT ELECTION, IF I MAY JUST ADD, BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING THE ELECTION. YEAH. IF I WAS GONNA ADD THAT, AS WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS, TALKING TO THE ELECTION BOARD, TALKING TO MEMBERS [00:20:01] OF THE PUBLIC, WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS IMPLEMENTING THIS FOR THE 2028 ELECTION, NOT THE 2027 ELECTION. UH, BOTH BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NO RUSH HERE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS DONE CORRECTLY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME TO EDUCATE VOTERS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME TO SET UP ALL OF THE THINGS THAT MICHELLE JUST MENTIONED AND GET IT RIGHT FROM THE FIRST TIME. AND SO, AND ALSO THAT ELECTION WILL ONLY HAVE ONE RACE ON THE BALLOT, WHICH WILL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER BOTH FOR VOTERS AND FOR THE ELECTION BOARD TO BE ABLE TO SORT OF, UM, EASE INTO IT. GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. WAYNE? YEAH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE I WAS ON PAR. THE FIRST IS THAT THIS, THE, THE VOTING HAPPENS ONCE, UM, CORRECT. IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT, AND THEN PEOPLE WILL VOTE THEIR SECOND VOTE ON THAT BALLOT. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES. CORRECT. THEY, YOU, A VOTER GETS ONE BALLOT WITH THE OPTION TO RANK AS MANY OR AS FEW CANDIDATES AS THEY LIKE. THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO GET INFORMATION FROM THE VOTER. ONCE THEY'VE, YOU'VE COLLECTED ALL OF THOSE, THEN YOU GO THROUGH THE TABULATION PROCESS. SO THE, FROM THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT, IT'S NO ANOTHER ELECTION. THAT WAS MY ONE CONCERN REGARDING THAT, CORRECT, MM-HMM . CORRECT. UH, AS FAR AS CAPITAL OF OUR ELECTION MEMBERS DOING MORE WORK, THAT IS, UH, ISSUE, BUT, UH, POSSIBLE ISSUE, UH, AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE SURE TACOMA PARK HAS IMPLEMENTED, GREENBELT PASSED IT, BUT THEY HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED YET AND BE HEIGHTS TO STUDY IT. THOSE ARE THE ONLY THREE IN THIS, WELL, IN THIS OUTSIDE OF ARLINGTON AND DC CORRECT. SO, UM, GREENBELT IS IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON THEIR, UH, UPDATES TO THEIR ELECTION EQUIPMENT AND OTHER DISCUSSIONS AND PLANNING OUT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY EVENTS, UH, WYN HEIGHTS SINCE THEY JUST, UH, PASSED THE REFERENDUM IN MAY. UH, WE'RE GONNA BE STARTING THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS WITH THE BOARD AS WELL. UM, AND IT'S MOSTLY JUST FIGURING OUT THE TIMING FOR, UH, THE, THOSE NEXT STEPS WITH THEM. WE DO HAVE OTHER CITIES WHO ARE LOOKING AT IT. I WAS JUST IN ANNAPOLIS, WHERE THE CITY OF ANNAPOLIS IS, IS LOOKING AT RANK CHOICE, VOTING FOR THEIR, UH, MAYOR MAYORAL AND WARD ELECTIONS. ROCKVILLE, THE CITY OF ROCKVILLE IS LOOKING AT IT FOR THEIR COUNCIL RACES. FREDERICK THE CITY OF FREDERICK, UH, THE CITY OF HYATTSVILLE, UM, COLLEGE PARK, AND THERE'S PROBABLY ANOTHER ONE THAT I'M FORGETTING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT THERE, THERE'S MANY ACROSS THE STATE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT WITH INTEREST TO US ABOUT HOW DO WE DO THIS? AND THAT'S COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE INTERESTED AND WANNA LEARN MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT. UM, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR WORK IS. I WANNA JUST BE REALLY CLEAR THAT FOR RAPE CHOICE WEDDING MARYLAND, WE DON'T GO INTO AN A COMMUNITY AND SAY, HEY, DO THIS. WE'RE REALLY LISTENING TO WHAT RESIDENTS ARE SAYING. AND WHEN, UH, PROGRESSIVE CH HAS HAD THEIR CONVERSATIONS AND HAVE BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS, WE ARE A SUPPORT TO HELP THEM ON THINKING THROUGH THE PIECES OF THAT AND THEN WORKING WITH, UH, THE BOARD, WITH LEGISLATORS, WITH ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN HOW WE MAKE IT, UH, WORK MOST EFFECTIVELY. THANK YOU. AND JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. UM, I'M A DATA PERSON TO MAKING SURE THAT THE, SHOWING THE EVIDENCE OF IT BEING IMPLEMENTED IN THOSE MUNICIPALITIES AND HOW IT BEFORE AND AFTER OF THAT, UM, ALSO CONSIDERING TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO EXPLORE WHETHER TO DO THIS. UM, I APPRECIATE THIS FACT YOU'RE SAYING NOT RUSHING INTO IT, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS NOT, NOT US ON THIS DIOCESE, BUT DOES THE RESIDENTS WANT THIS, UH, STUDY OR POLL SOMETHING BEING DONE FROM THAT STANDPOINT AND USING THE DATA OF THE PREVIOUS TURNOUTS FOR THE LAST THREE ELECTIONS AND CHARITABLY AS WELL TO IMPLEMENT THAT. BUT THANK YOU AGAIN. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. IT WAS VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE. UH, COUNCILMAN FRY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU, MICHELLE FOR BEING HERE. UM, AND CARLO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG AGO IT WAS WHEN, I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE SENT YOUR FIRST EMAIL ABOUT RANGE WAS VOTING . UM, SO I WANTED IT TO SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH YOU AND PAUL, UM, JUST FOR STAYING PERSISTENT. UM, I REMEMBER RUNNING INTO PAUL AT THE, I THINK IT WAS A SPECIAL ELECTION, ONE OF THE, UM, FORUMS IN MOR, AND HE WAS THERE ON HIS OWN, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATING. AND SO IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ENGAGED, AND I APPRECIATE THE KIND OF THE RELENTLESSNESS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOMETIMES GOVERNMENT CAN BE SLOW. UM, I DO WONDER IF MAYBE IT SOUNDS LIKE BOWEN HEIGHTS PUT IT ON FOR REFERENDUM. IT, IT, IT WAS ON THEIR BALLOT ON MAY, IN MAY, AND THEY PASSED IT. SO THEN IF YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY 2028, SINCE THERE'S AN ELECTION IN 2027, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANNA PUT TO THE RESIDENTS, WE WOULD HAVE TIME IN A WAY, UM, TO PUT IT ON FOR REFERENDUM FOR 2027. AND IF IT IS THE ROLE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD, MAYBE NOT AS MUCH TIME AS WE ARE HOPING FOR THE TWO YEARS, BUT WE COULD START TO LAY A FOUNDATION [00:25:01] TO SEE. AND THEN, UM, IF THAT VOTE IS, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT IT GOES AND IT IS WHAT THEY WANT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE IT SO THAT WE KNOW THAT ONE, THE COMMUNITY WANTS IT, BUT TWO KIND OF MENTALLY PREPARING FOR IT OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, YEAR AS WE HAVE FOR THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. SO DEFINITELY AND, UM, ENCOURAGE WHATEVER, UH, OPTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL THINK IS THE BEST WAY TO GET THAT FEEDBACK. AS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WADE MENTIONED AS WELL, LIKE, I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL TO, TO, TO GET THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH COMMUNITY FORUMS, UM, A REFERENDUM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CHOICE IS LIKE. BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU ARE GIVING FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ALL THOSE QUESTIONS JUST LIKE YOU ARE. OKAY. UH, YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION? OKAY. , SORRY. UM, ONE IS JUST TO SAY IF WE WERE TO DO A REFERENDUM, THERE WOULD NECESSARILY BE A LOT OF VOTER EDUCATION SO THAT PEOPLE COULD VOTE ON THE REFERENDUM. SO THAT'S KIND OF BABY STEPS TOWARDS THAT ANYWAY. UM, RECENTLY WE HAVE HAD A SPATE OF, UM, WRITE IN CANDIDACY BEING VERY POPULAR. AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD QUICKLY SPEAK TO HOW WRITE IN CANDIDATES FACTOR INTO RANK CHOICE VOTING. YOU CAN HANDLE WRITING CANDIDATES WITH A BALLOT. SO ONE, IT'S THE, WHAT ARE THE RULES THAT THE BOARD SETS UP FOR HOW MANY WRITING CANDIDATES CAN BE ON THE BALLOT? SO, UM, I THINK IN ANNAPOLIS THEY WERE LOOKING AT ADDING EITHER ONE OR TWO LINES FOR WRITING CANDIDATES. DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CHOICES ARE THAT YOU MAKE THERE. THE SECOND PIECE IS WHEN COUNTING THE WRITE-INS, UH, THERE CAN BE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU COUNT THEM AS AN AGGREGATE NUMBER UNTIL YOU SEE LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S ONE CANDIDATE WHO HAS ENOUGH THAT IS, THEY'RE GONNA BE PART OF THE, THE TRANSFER COUNTS. SO THOSE ARE, UH, THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO CONSIDER WITH THE TABULATION PROCESS. BUT YOU CAN HANDLE WRITE-INS WITHIN AN OUR CB ELECTION. SO IF THERE IS NOT A MAJORITY AND YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT ROUND AND REMOVE THE CANDIDATE WITH THE LEAST VOTES, IF THERE IS A WRITING CANDIDATE THAT HAS REACHED THAT THRESHOLD, THEY MIGHT BE THE CANDIDATE THAT IS REMOVED. THEY JUST SORT OF GO INTO THE PROCESS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE THRESHOLD IS. YEAH. SO IN SOME CASES WHERE THERE'S, LET'S SAY THERE'S A GROUP OF WRITING CANDIDATES WHO ALL HAVE A VERY LOW TOTAL, THAT, THAT IT DOES NOT, I THINK THE WAY THEY WRITE THE LANGUAGE IS THAT THE TOTAL FOR THOSE CANDIDATES DOES NOT EQUAL WHOEVER, LIKE WHOEVER'S ABOVE THEM. SO THEY ALL HAVE, LET'S JUST SAY ONE VOTE AND SOMEONE ABOVE THEM HAS LIKE 25. YOU CAN ELIMINATE, DO A BATCH ELIMINATION OF THOSE CANDIDATES AND TRANSFER VOTES, UH, FOR THE VOTERS, AND THEN MOVE ON WITH THE ELECTION WITH WHATEVER OTHER CANDIDATES ARE STILL ACTIVE ON THE BALLOT. SO AGAIN, IT'S A PROCESS OF HOW DOES THE BOARD SET UP THE REGULATIONS ON THAT? UM, HOW DO YOU WANNA TREAT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN WITHIN A BALLOT AND, UH, WITHIN TIES OR, UM, RIGHT IN VOTES THAT ARE LOW. SO, BUT THOSE ARE ALL THAT'S HAPPENED IN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY HAVE THOSE RULES THAT YOU CAN USE FROM OTHER PLACES. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . OKAY. LET US NOW TURN TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK, UM, WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO A BACK AND FORTH WITH THE PRESENTERS, SO IF THERE ARE COMMENTS THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ON THIS TOPIC, UH, FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND, UM, GIVE YOUR NAME. AND WARD IS ANYTHING I CAN GET YOU HELP MYSELF. SHE'S LIKE A CAT. UM, GO AHEAD PLEASE. UH, HI, ROBIN KAY. UH, WARD FOUR, UM, AND THE CHAIR OF BOARD OF ELECTION SUPERVISORS. UM, AS THE ELECTION SUPERVISOR, UH, WE ARE NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, UM, BUT I FIGURED I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING ON THIS TOPIC, BUT SOME QUESTIONS AROSE AND I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD SPEAK ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION FACTS. UM, BACK IN 2022, I BELIEVE, UM, WE REACHED OUT TO MICHELLE TO PRESENT TO US ABOUT RANK CHOICE VOTING. UM, WE CHOSE TO EDUCATE OURSELVES ON THE MERITS, UM, OF RANK CHOICE VOTING AND HOW IT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED. UM, FOLLOWING THAT PRESENTATION, WE HAD REACHED OUT TO TACOMA PARK TO GET THEIR INSIGHT ON HOW THEY IMPLEMENT IT. UH, THEY COUNT BY HAND. THEY DO IT VERY EFFICIENTLY. UM, AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO TO HEAR HOW THEY WORK THEIR ELECTION. SO, UH, FROM AN IMPLEMENTATION STANDPOINT, UM, SHOULD COUNCIL CHOOSE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, WE HAVE PREPARED OURSELVES, UH, IN ADVANCE. UH, EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY NOT HAPPEN FOR YEARS, UH, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION, UM, WE, UH, IT, IT'S HARD TO DENY THE DATA. YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER WADE MENTIONED BEING A DATA PERSON, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA AND KIND OF HOW RANK CHOICE VOTING IS, IS TAKING HOLD, UM, THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE TO EDUCATE OURSELVES BECAUSE [00:30:01] WE FIGURE THIS IS A GROWING MOVEMENT. UM, SO FROM THE BOARD OF ELECTION STANDPOINT, WE, UM, HAVE THE INFORMATION AND WE'RE READY TO IMPLEMENT IF NEEDED. UH, WRITE IN CANDIDATES WAS A, A VERY GOOD QUESTION, UH, THAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT, UM, BECAUSE THIS TOWN HAS A, A QUITE AN ABUNDANT, UH, WRITE IN CANDIDATES, UM, AS COMPARED TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. UM, SO I, I THINK IT, IT WOULD NOT IMPACT OUR PROCESSES GREATLY. UM, OUR BIGGEST IMPACT WOULD BE MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WE WOULD HAVE, UM, A GREAT DEAL OF VOTER EDUCATION SESSIONS IN THE MONTHS LEADING UP TO THAT ELECTION, UH, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS, IS KNOWLEDGEABLE BEFOREHAND, UM, WITH ALL THE FACTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JOYCE. GOOD EVENING. JOYCE JONES, WARD II. I ALSO HAD NOT PLANNED TO SPEAK, BUT I JUST, UH, YOU SAID, YOU SAID THERE COULD BE BACK AND FORTH, THAT'S FINE, BUT I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE AT A LATER DATE COULD BE EXPLORED. UM, PAUL HAD MENTIONED, UH, AND IT THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. IT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE. UH, WHEN YOU MENTIONED BENEFITS, HE SAID CANDIDATE BENEFITS HAS AN IN INCREASED OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION. I'D, I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HOW DOES THAT WORK? HOW TO, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA TURN THE TEMPERATURE DOWN AND HAVE MORE COLLABORATE COLLABORATION RATHER THAN THE ANTAGONISTIC CAMPAIGN, WHICH I BELIEVE CARLOS HAD HAD MENTIONED IT FIRST. AND ALSO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UM, WE ARE A REALLY SMALL TOWN. A LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS STATES, THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, WHATEVER. UM, ALTHOUGH A FEW SMALLER TOWNS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, BUT I WAS CURIOUS HOW, AND I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT DATA COUNCIL MEMBER WARD, UM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, FIVE YEARS, WHAT, WHICH OF OUR ELECTIONS WOULD THIS HAVE EVEN APPLIED TO? AND I'M CURIOUS TO SEE LIKE WHO WOULD'VE WON OR MAYBE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE JUST AGAIN, WITH PART OF THE EDUCATION, I THINK WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT. AND, UM, AND MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN NEW YORK CITY AND SHE'S A BIG RCB . UH, SO, AND I'VE BEEN LEARNING ABOUT IT, SO I HAVE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF FROM GETTING INPUT, BUT I HAVE TO BE HONEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ON OUR CV? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, UH, THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND CONTINUING TO BE A RESOURCE. UH, AND WE WILL REVISIT THIS TOPIC SOON, UH, ONTO ITEM FIVE, CHOP UP RESTAURANT AND COOL LOUNGE. MR. GALLOWAY, DO WE WANT TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM MR. EDDIE POUNDS? OKAY, MR. EDDIE POUNDS, ARE YOU OUT THERE? YES, MR. MAYOR? UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. AND MY, MY APOLOGIES, I'M IN MY CAR. UH, I'M PARKED, JUST SO YOU KNOW, BUT GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND, UH, MR. GALLOWAY. UM, I, I HAD THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH COUNSEL, LEGAL COUNSEL FOR CHOP UP RESTAURANT, UH, EARLIER THIS WEEK. UM, IF, IF I COULD, UH, PUN INTENDED HERE, BUT THEY ARE STILL, HIS APPLICANT IS, HIS CLIENT IS STILL CHOPPING UP A PLAN FOR ENTERTAINMENT, BUT NOT SPECIAL ENTERTAINMENT, I THINK. MR. MAYOR, WHEN YOU PRESENT IT TESTIMONY BEFORE THE BOARD OF LICENSED COMMISSIONERS, UH, LAST FALL, WE MADE IT CLEAR THAT, UH, THE TOWN WAS NOT INTERESTED IN, UH, CHOP UP HAVING SPECIAL ENTERTAINMENT. UH, THAT IS STILL THE CASE. UM, MR. CARTER, BEN CARTER, THE, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, STRESS TO ME THAT HIS CLIENT WOULD NOT APPLY FOR FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT WITHOUT SEEKING APPROVAL, UM, FROM THE TOWN FIRST. AND HE'LL START THAT CONVERSATION BY REACHING OUT TO ME AND PERHAPS WILL, WILL LEAVE IT TO YOUR DISCRETION, UM, UH, HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE THAT. UM, AND I'LL SAY THAT, UH, I'LL JUST CONCLUDE BY SAYING THAT, UH, MR. CARTER ALSO SHARED THAT HE DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HIS CLIENT ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT UNTIL, UH, THE RENEWAL PERIOD HAS CONCLUDED, UH, FOR APPLYING FOR ENTERTAINMENT. AND THAT PERIOD ENDS, UH, SEPTEMBER 15TH. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I SHOULD HAVE INTRODUCED YOU, UH, MR. EDDIE POUNDS IS THE TOWN OF CHEVROLET'S ATTORNEY IN MATTERS BEFORE THE BOARD OF LICENSED COMMISSIONERS, THE LIQUOR BOARD. UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNSEL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. EDDIE POUNDS AT THIS POINT? COUNCIL MEMBER [00:35:01] GAR? YEAH. UM, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE, UM, WHEN IS THE RENEWAL DATE, UH, OF THEIR, I GUESS THEIR LEASE OR CONTRACT? THEIR LICENSE? THEIR LICENSE? UH, NO, NOT OFF HAND. UM, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, THE LICENSE WAS, THE HEARING FOR THE LICENSE WAS OCTOBER 28TH, 2025. UM, AND RENEWALS HAPPEN, UM, EVERY YEAR. UM, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO COUNSEL TO CONFIRM THAT NO VIOLATIONS, UM, HAVE BEEN LEVIED AGAINST HIS CLIENT DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT MR. CARTER CONFIRMED THAT THERE HAD NOT BEEN, UM, I, OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, I THINK I JUST WANNA ASK MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR US TO REALLY EXPLORE THIS, UH, MORE OR REVISIT THIS, UM, BEFORE THEIR, THE, THE RENEWAL OF THEIR LICENSE. UM, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, A COUPLE OF, UH, NOT A COUPLE, BUT THERE'S BEEN, UM, LARGE AMOUNT OF COMPLAINTS DONE TO ME BY RESIDENTS IN, UH, IN WARD FIVE AND SIX REGARDING THIS ESTABLISHMENT. UM, I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST TALKED WITH THEM, THEY, UM, THEY PROMISED THAT THE AMOUNT OF TENANTS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE WOULD NOT, YOU KNOW, GO OVER TO POUR OVER INTO THE, UM, VISITOR'S PARKING LOT IN CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENTS. AND I PERSONALLY HAVE WITNESSED THAT GETTING MULTIPLE, UH, COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS REGARDING THIS SITUATION. UM, IT'S NOT ONLY UNFAIR FOR MY RESIDENTS OR OUR RESIDENTS TO TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR LOVED ONES WHO ARE VISITING PARK, FIND, PARK ACROSS THE STREET INTO LANDOVER HILLS. UM, ALSO THERE HAS BEEN JUST, IT'S JUST THE HAZARD AS WELL. WHEN IT GETS, THE PARKING LOT GETS PACKED. I MEAN, THAT PARKING LOT COULD ONLY HOLD SO MANY PEOPLE AND THEY BLOCKED THE ENTRANCES INTO THE APARTMENTS. UM, I THINK THIS IS A CONVERSATION I WANTED TO HAVE WITH MR. GALLOWAY, AND I'M GLAD THIS CAME UP INTO THE WORK SESSION. 'CAUSE UM, I DEFINITELY WANNA, UM, I REALLY WANNA RAISE THESE CONCERNS. UM, SO IF THERE'S MAYBE A PROPER DATE OR NEXT WORK SESSION OR WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS, BUT I REALLY DO WANNA TALK TO THEM. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, THEY DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE. UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE TO PERMIT ORDINARY ENTERTAINMENT. I'M SURE THAT'S NOT QUITE THE RIGHT TERM. BUT, UM, MR. POUNDS, COULD YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WOULD ENTAIL? ARE WE TALKING MUSIC ACTS TYPICALLY WITH THIS TYPE OF, UM, LICENSE EXPANSION? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S VERY LIMITED. UH, A FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT VERSUS THE SPECIAL ENTERTAINMENT, UH, A FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT. UH, WHICH LICENSE, WHICH THE APPLICANT WOULD BE APPLYING FOR? UH, W WOULD INCLUDE, UH, THINGS LIKE KARAOKE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'RE MANIPULATING, UM, THE SOUND SYSTEM. UM, INSTANCES WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO BEYOND 9:00 PM WITH, UH, ACTS LIKE KARAOKE OR FAMILY MUSIC. MUSIC WITHOUT EXPLICIT LANGUAGE. UM, THOSE ARE, ARE PRIME EXAMPLES OF WHY AN APPLICANT WOULD SEEK, UH, FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. POUNDS BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC? MR. GALLOWAY, JUST TO COMMENT. UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. COUNCILMAN GAR. I THINK THAT THE NEXT STEPS FOR ATTORNEY POUNDS AND I, UH, MR. FOLLOW UP WITH THE OWNER AND THEIR COUNSEL TO BRING THESE CONCERNS TO THEM SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS IT. SO THANK YOU. AND I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE, UM, WE, I THINK WE WOULD WANNA HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AT A TOWN MEETING, UH, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE UP OR DOWN ON ENDORSING A LIVE ENTERTAINMENT EXPANSION OF THEIR PERMIT. UM, AND WE CAN DO THAT AT THE AUGUST MEETING OR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING AS I THINK AS MR. GALLOWAY OR MR. POUNDS ADVISE. COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR COUNCIL REGARDING THE POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF CHOP UPS LIQUOR LICENSE TO INCLUDE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT? THE RESIDENT OF AWARD ONE? FIRST I'M GONNA START TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNSEL IS AWARE OF AN EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT TO COMMUNITY VIA OUR CHEVROLET EXCHANGE EARLIER THIS EVENING. I WROTE GOOD EVENING NEIGHBORS. I KNOW IT'S SUMMER AND EVERYONE IS BUSY. HOWEVER, I NEED TO CALL YOUR [00:40:01] ATTENTION TO THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S CHEVROLET TOWN COUNCIL WORK SESSION. OUR COUNCIL IS BRINGING FORWARD SEVERAL MATTERS OF INCREDIBLE SIGNIFICANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY ARE DOING SO WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY BACKGROUND OR INTRODUCTORY MATERIALS FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENGAGE. ASIDE FROM THE PROPOSAL ON RANKED CHOICE VOTING PROVIDED BY THE, BY PROGRESSIVE THANK YOU PC FOR OFFERING A PROPOSAL TO THE COMMUNITY. THERE ARE NO SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS POSTED FOR ANY OF THESE MAJOR TOPICS, AND I GO THROUGH AND LIST THE TOPICS. I TRY HARD TO STAY CONNECTED TO TOWN ISSUES. I HAD NO INTENTION OF ATTENDING TONIGHT. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU AND ME TO STAY INFORMED OR PARTICIPATE WHEN WE ARE LEFT WITHOUT ANY BACKGROUND INFORMATION. OUR MAYOR AND COUNCIL SHOULD NOT ACCEPT A MEETING AGENDA WHEN THE MATERIALS NEEDED TO SUPPORT IT, HAVE NOT BEEN PROPERLY POSTED FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO FOLLOW. WE DESERVE SUFFICIENT ADVANCE NOTICE AND INFORMATION SO WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ASK THEM TO CHECK IT OUT. I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GARCIA, UM, HAD BROUGHT UP THE SITUATION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, NOW CORRECTED, UM, NOT SPECIAL ENTERTAINMENT, BUT ENTERTAINMENT. UM, WE NEED TO LOOK MORE CLOSELY. UH, WE NEED TO BE WORKING WITH OUR POLICE TO FIND OUT IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY CALLS, UM, TO THAT ESTABLISHMENT. UM, IF YOU GO ON THEIR INSTAGRAM PAGE, AND IF YOU GO ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE, THEY ARE CURRENTLY HOLDING MUSIC EVENTS UNTIL 1:00 AM SO THEY ARE ALREADY OPERATING AS IF THEY HAVE THIS LICENSE, TO THE BEST OF MY UNDERSTANDING. SO THAT GOING TO APPLY FOR A LICENSE AFTER THE FACT WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN OPERATING IN HOWEVER, FASHION AND IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY. THE IDEA THAT THERE IS NOTHING ON HERE THAT EXPLAINS THE TOPIC FURTHER OR ANY OF THE ASSOCIATED MATERIALS OR ANYTHING ABOUT WHEN THEY LAST APPLIED FOR THEIR LICENSE, WHICH WAS AN INITIAL LICENSE, NONE OF THAT IS ON HERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID AND WHAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GARCIA SAID, THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE NOTICE AND SPECIFIC NOTICE GIVEN AND COMMENTS, UM, ENGAGED FROM THE MOST, THE, THE CLOSEST RESIDENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE NOISE, BY ANY POSSIBLE COMMOTION THAT COMES AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING BY THE PARKING SITUATIONS. ALL OF THIS. AND IN GENERAL, I JUST SO INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAVE SUCH IMPORTANT ISSUES ON THIS AGENDA WITHOUT RELEVANT BACKGROUND INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT ON THE PROPOSAL, POSSIBLE PROPOSAL BY CHOP UP TO EXPAND TO A LIVE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE? I SHEILA SAID TO, I JUST WANTED TO REPEAT, UM, WHAT SAID THAT WE ALWAYS COME TO THESE PROPOSALS, UM, THE SAME QUESTIONS ABOUT NOISE, ABOUT PARKING, UM, AND TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE ALREADY ACTIVE IF THEY HAVE THE LICENSES. UM, I GUESS IT'S A, UM, A, A NEGATIVE ON ON THAT SIDE FOR THEM. THEY COMING TO US, UM, UNDER FIFTH PRETENSE ALMOST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALRIGHT. NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER. OH, MR. GALLOWAY, GO AHEAD. I'LL SAY, UH, UH, MS. RAZI, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S NEWS TO US THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING AFTER, UH, SAID HOURS. AND NOW THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT TO OUR ATTENTION ATTORNEY POUNDS AND I WILL DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MOST ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT ARE JUST TOPICS OF DISCUSSION. THE ONLY ITEM THAT WE HAD SUBMITTED TO US, UM, DURING THE TIME OF THE SUBMISSION OF THE ACTUAL AGENDA WAS THE, WHAT WAS IT? GISELLE CHOSE VOTE BUNCH, CHOSE VOTING, WAS THE RANK CHOICE VOTING. UM, SO MOST OF THE OTHER ITEMS TONIGHT THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE TOPICS OF DISCUSSION OVER. OKAY. UH, SEEING NOTHING FURTHER ON THIS, WE WILL, UH, AWAIT ADVICE FROM MR. EDDIE POUNDS. AND YES, SIR, MR. GALLOWAY ON A FUTURE, UM, [00:45:01] UH, TOWN MEETING, UH, DISCUSSION. MR. MAYOR? YES, IF I, IF I MAY, UM, GO AHEAD. I'LL, I'LL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH MR. GALLOWAY. UH, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE LIQUOR BOARD AND SPEAK TO BOTH THE DIRECTOR AND THE CHIEF, UH, INSPECTOR, UH, AND HAVE, UM, AN INSPECTION TEAM IF, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERM, ASSIGNED TO THAT ESTABLISHMENT. UM, SORT OF LIKE IN A, UH, UNDERCOVER FASHION, UH, TO FIND OUT AS MUCH TO GET, TO GATHER AS MUCH INTEL AS POSSIBLE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE ANY, UM, ACTIVITIES AS WERE DESCRIBED BY, UH, YOUR CONSTITUENTS. I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE WELCOME BY EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE CAN HAVE THAT REPORT FOR YOU BY THE NEXT WORK SESSION. WELL THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR STAYING ON TOP OF THAT. UH, ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS PORT TOWNS. UH, MR. TANZI, I THINK I'M GONNA HAND THIS OVER TO YOU. LET ME JUST START OUT BY SAYING, UH, THANK YOU TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR SUBMITTING YOUR COMMENTS ON THE M-N-C-P-P-C UH, DRAFT. I'M GONNA GET THE TITLE WRONG, BUT DRAFT SECTOR PLAN FOR PORT TOWNS. UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE THOSE COMMENTS, UH, AND THEY ARE MUCH APPRECIATED, MR. TANZI. SO THE PLANNING BOARD HAS BEEN DISCUSSING THE PRELIMINARY PORT PLANS, UM, SECTOR PLAN, UH, SINCE IT WAS RELEASED. UH, WE'VE NOW HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT THAT RESULTED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT THEY SUBMITTED TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT THEY WOULD LIKE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY. SO IT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE, UH, PRELIMINARY PROCESS OF THE PORT TOWN PLAN ADOPTION. UM, AS INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE PUBLIC PLAYHOUSE SITE, WHICH, UH, WE ARE ENCOURAGING. IT'S WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE OF THE MIXED USE CENTERS IN THE, UM, PORT TOWNS PLAN. THEY, UH, BRING UP THAT THERE IS A CHEVROLET TO BLADENSBURG SHARED USE PATH, UH, BEING DESIGNED, UM, ON 2 0 2 AND FOUR 50 AND WANT THAT INCLUDED IN THE PORT TOWN'S PLAN SINCE THAT IS APPROVED AND WELL, IT'S IN PROGRESS AND FUNDED. SO IT, IT IS A MATTER OF COURSE AT THIS POINT. UM, THE, THE PLAN TALKS A LOT ABOUT FOUR 50 AS THE MIXED USE BOULEVARD, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT EXTENDS TO 2 0 2, ESPECIALLY ON THAT SIDE OF BW PARKWAY. UM, AND, UH, SO THAT THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED AN ARTERIAL ROAD, IT'S STILL CONSIDERED AN ARTERIAL ROAD IN THE PLAN. AND THEY HAVE A VERY INTERESTING, UH, DESIGN FOR THE INTERSECTION AT THE PEACE CROSS THAT WOULD, UM, HAVE ANNAPOLIS CONTINUE ON TO BLADENSBURG. SO YOU COULD JUST GO STRAIGHT, UH, RATHER THAN HAVING IT BE A SORT OF BUTTERFLY INTERSECTION. AND, UH, THEY SAY IT HAS TO HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SINCE THE, THE PLAN SAYS SORT OF THIS IS NOT A, YOU KNOW, A RIGOROUSLY STUDIED PLAN. IT'S JUST AN, AN IMAGINING, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW MUCH MORE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE PEACE CROSS AND THE OTHER PARK AREAS AROUND THERE. IT'S A PLAZA TYPE DESIGN. SO WE ARE JUST SAYING WE LIKE THAT AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN THE TOWN, IT IS A PLACE THAT WE GO AS A TOWN. UH, AND SO WE ENCOURAGE THAT, UM, THAT IS CONSIDERED, UM, AS A, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT CHANGES, UH, IS SAYING THAT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN ENDS RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF CHEVROLET SECTOR PLAN AND SOME OF THE PROPOSALS, ESPECIALLY AROUND PUBLIC PLAYHOUSE IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, UNDERSTANDABLY, AND AT THE EDGE OF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAP, BUT THAT BLEEDS NATURALLY INTO THE REST OF 2 0 2, UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE CH PLAN STARTS AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THOSE ARE, UH, COORDINATED SO YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS UP TO THIS BLOCK AND THEN EXPECTING THE VERY NEXT BLOCK TO BE A, YOU KNOW, A 10 PL YOU KNOW, 10-YEAR-OLD DESIGN. SO IT'S JUST SAYING COORDINATE THOSE. UM, I THINK THAT'S THE SUMMARY. CARLO IS HERE AS, UH, CHAIR OF OUR PLANNING BOARD, SO HE'S WELCOME TO ADD SOMETHING MORE IF I DID [00:50:01] NOT, UH, HIT ALL THE POINTS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PLANNING BOARD OR OUR LIAISON? UM, OKAY. OH, VICE MAYOR, GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER. THIS WAS REALLY HELPFUL AND ALL SEEMS REALLY REASONABLE AND THOUGHTFUL TO ME. UH, BY, WHEN SHOULD THE TOWN SUBMIT ITS SUBMISSION? I DON'T KNOW. UM, BUT IT IS, IT IS COMING UP. I'M FORGETTING THE EXACT DATE, BUT IT, THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS PART OF THIS WORK SESSION IS THE HOPE IS THAT THERE ARE NO COMMENTS ON THIS AND WE CAN JUST PRINT IT ON LETTERHEAD AND YEAH. AND INCLUDE IT. UM, MR. GALLOWAY, I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, DID WE DO THIS IN COLLABORATION WITH ANY OF THE PORT TOWNS? THIS, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE JUST WITHIN THE, THE PLANNING BOARD? RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. UM, PRESUMABLY EACH TOWN IS SUBMITTING THEIR OWN COMMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE ACTUAL PORT TOWNS, BUT I ASSUME THAT THOSE PLUS ALL THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES SUCH AS C ARE, I WOULD ASSUME FEEDING IN INPUT. SORRY, GO AHEAD. UNDERSTOOD. NO, UM, OKAY. I'LL JUST SAY I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN HERE THAT'S IN CONTEST. IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY SAYING, HEY, AS AN IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NEIGHBOR, SOME OF THE, WE WOULD LOVE IT FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS TO CONTINUE ON. AND LIKE THE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE, UM, PUBLIC PLAYHOUSE INTERSECTION, IT'S JUST SAYING WE LIKE IT AND WE'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE CLOSEST TO US. WE DON'T, THEY HAVE A THROUGH G DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT SITES, SO WE ONLY TALK ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S LITERALLY NEXT TO US. UH, SO I DON'T THINK IT, IT, THERE'S TOO MUCH RISK OF IT SEEMING LIKE WE'RE OVERREACHING AND THINGS LIKE THE 2 0 2 4 50 SHARED USE LANE REALLY IS A MISSING ELEMENT. IT SHOULD BE IN THERE BECAUSE THAT IS ALREADY A FUNDED, UH, PLAN. SO I, I THINK IT'S ALL CONSTRUCTIVE. UM, AND IT SHOULDN'T COME UP, IT SHOULDN'T RUB BUSTLE, TOO MANY FEATHERS RUFFLE. BUT, UH, YOU MADE ME THINK OF TWO THINGS, MR. GALLOWAY. ONE, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I LET HOME TEAM FIVE KNOW ABOUT THE PROPOSAL AND ALSO THAT THEY GET A COPY OF OUR COMMENTS. UM, AND THEN I'LL MAKE SURE WE SEND OUR COMMENTS TO THE CITIES AND ANY OF OUR CLOSEST CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS, GREATER LANDOVER KNOWLES, NORTH ENGLEWOOD, IF IT'S RELEVANT LIKE THAT. UM, E OKAY. SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION, WELL, I'LL SAY THIS AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. MY THOUGHT IS TO JUST WRITE A, A SHORT COVER NOTE AND SEND THIS IN IN THE NEXT 10 DAYS. UM, THE CONTENTS OF THAT COVER NOTE WOULD BE SHORT AND SWEET, BUT I CAN INCLUDE ANY OTHER SALIENT FACTORS THAT I HEAR FROM FOLKS IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. UM, IS THERE ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC ON SUBMITTING THE CH PLANNING BOARD'S COMMENTS TO M-N-C-P-P-C REGARDING THIS, UH, THEIR, THEIR PROPOSAL? ONE? UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE WE'VE BEEN CAN'T UNDERSTAND. OH, SO, OKAY. IS THIS BETTER? YES, IT'S BETTER. OKAY. UM, UH, MY APOLOGIES, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE I WAS SAYING IT WOULD'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL TO HAVE HAD THE WORK, UM, ON ANY SUBMISSION FROM, UM, OUR PLANNING BOARD AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING BEEN ABLE TO ATTEND A PLANNING BOARD MEETING ON THIS, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON. SO YOU, I MEAN, THE TOWN IS DRAFTING A LETTER, BUT THE PUBLIC HAS NO ENGAGEMENT. SO I'M GONNA KEEP BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. UM, AND THEN ALSO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE PLANNING BOARD IS DOING, AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE REGULAR AND, AND ATTENDANCE ENGAGEMENT INVOLVEMENT OF THE LIAISON. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI FOR THAT. AND I ENCOURAGE, UM, THAT THE PLANNING BOARD AND THAT YOU COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI, UM, REACH OUT MAYBE TO THE PORT TOWNS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WITH THE INPUT SO THAT WE DON'T IN ANY WAY APPEAR TO BE THAT CH STANDS ALONE, BUT THAT CH APPRECIATES JUST WHAT YOU'VE SAID, APPRECIATES AND WANTS TO CONNECT AND WANTS TO SUPPORT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ADDED, UM, YOU [00:55:01] KNOW, THIS, THIS ADDED ADDITION IS ALSO INCLUDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS TOPIC? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE ELECTION CALENDAR DISCUSSION. UH, THIS IS LARGELY MR. WADE'S TOPIC, SO I'M GONNA TURN IT DIRECTLY OVER TO HIM. I BEG TO DIFFERENCE, I THINK IS EVERYONE'S TOPIC. UM, IT DEALS WITH ELECTIONS, BUT, UM, THE MAIN REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS BECAUSE AS A FRESHMAN COUNCIL MEMBER, ONE OF THE, UNDER MY SCOPE, I THINK THE BUSY, THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DO AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IS TO PASS A BUDGET. AND I REMEMBER GOING INTO, UH, MY FIRST MEETING AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I LITERALLY HAD TO PASS A BUDGET THAT I HAD NO TYPE OF, UH, IMPRINT ON MY DNA WAS NOT AT ALL NOT MY OPINIONS OR ME CONSULTING WITH MY, THE RESIDENTS OF WARD ONE, UH, REGARDING THAT. AND THAT WAS UNFORTUNATELY A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION TO BE PUT IN. UM, AS YOU, IF THE BACKGROUND IS THAT, THAT THE FIRST MEETING AFTER ELECTION IS THE BUDGET FINAL VOTE, UM, FOR THAT. SO LEADING UP TO THAT VOTE FOR THE BUDGET, I HAD NO SAY, SO I MIND YOU, I DID ATTEND THE MEETINGS, I WAS ON THE PLANNING BOARD BEFORE THAT. BUT AGAIN, SITTING IN THIS SEAT, I HAD NO, UM, ANY ASPECT OF THAT. AND THEN OF COURSE, AS THE TWO, UH, GENTLEMEN TO MY RIGHT, UM, I SAW THAT THEY GOT ON BOARD AND CLEARLY, UM, IF I MAY SAY THAT THEY HAD CONCERNS REGARDING VOTING ON, UH, A BUDGET THAT THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY INPUT. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF THAT'S THE CASE. SO HOPEFULLY I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OUT OF TERM REGARDING THAT. SO, UM, AS A RESULT OF THAT, UM, I, I LOOKED INTO JUST ASKING, JUST AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A GENERAL CONVERSATION. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I AM EVEN TRYING TO IMPLEMENT, UM, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. BUT TO START THE CONVERSATION ABOUT CHANGING THE DATE OF OUR ELECTION, UM, MANY WAYS, IF IT'S PUSHED TO THE FALL, IT NUMBER ONE FALLS IN LINE WITH, UH, POSSIBLE THE GENERAL ELECTION DATE, BUT ALSO IT STARTS OUR CONVERSATION AGAIN, FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS OUR BUDGET. OUR BUDGET CONVERSATION STARTS IN THE FALL. SO YOU'LL HAVE A FULL, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF UNDERSTANDING THE BUDGET AND VOTING ON THE BUDGET THAT YOU, THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE FULL, THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK TO YOUR RESIDENTS ABOUT AND HAVE A FULL, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT. SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A GENERAL CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. UH, FULL, FULL DISCLOSURE, I BELIEVE WE DID SPEAK WITH, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, MR. DELOACH, UM, IF THIS IS PASSED, SAY HYPOTHETICALLY, IF IT'S PASSED LATER THIS YEAR BEFORE THE ELECTION, IT STILL WILL NOT AFFECT GOING TO AFFECT THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE FACT IT, UH, IT AFFECTS US. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER, BUT YOUR CLARIFICATION REGARDING THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. DE LYNCH. I THINK THE QUESTION IS, CAN A MAYOR AND COUNCIL EXTEND THE LENGTH OF THEIR OWN TERMS, OR DON'T THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR AN INTERVENING ELECTION TO EXTEND THE SUBSEQUENT TERM? SAYING YOU CAN EXTEND YOUR OWN TERM. OKAY. THE LAST ELECTION, THE PEOPLE ELECTED YOU FOR A TERM OF A CERTAIN YEARS. OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE ELECTION, OKAY. YOU'RE EXTENDING YOUR TERM NOW. UM, I, I THINK WHAT MR. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WADE IS TALKING ABOUT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS WHERE IT IS. UM, THE QUESTION IS CAN YOU CHANGE THE UPCOMING MAY 27TH ALLOW ACTION TO SAY SEPTEMBER OR NOVEMBER? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING? YEAH. LIKE, LIKE YEAH, EXACTLY. OCTO, LET'S SAY OCTOBER, 2027 TO THE FALL. YEAH. YEAH, I SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. OKAY. I DO SEE A PROBLEM IN THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE WE'D BE, WE'D BE, WE'D BE EXTENDING OUR OWN TERMS BY FIAT, RIGHT? YEAH. I I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE, I I I DON'T THINK THAT'S LEGAL RIGHT. TO IMPLEMENT. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WERE. YEAH. YEAH. WE NEED [01:00:01] TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING WHERE YEAH, EXACTLY. I THOUGHT, RIGHT. SO I THOUGHT COUNCIL MEMBER WADE SAID, I THOUGHT IT, I THOUGHT COUNCIL MEMBER WADE SAID, I THOUGHT THAT WAS LEGAL THAT WE COULD DO. NO, NO, NO. OH, OKAY. I'M JUST, I MISREAD I DIDN'T HEAR HIM CORRECTLY. NO, BECAUSE WE, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS. YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING IT. SO IT'S, WE'RE FULL TRANSPARENT TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WE, THAT YOU HAVE INFORMED US OF THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM MM-HMM. YEP. TO YOU. SO NO MATTER, MATTER MATTER WHAT, NO MATTER WHAT, THERE WILL BE A COUNCIL ELECTION IN MAY, 2027 AND A MAYOR'S ELECTION IN MAY, 2028. THE QUESTION OKAY. UM, SORRY, DID I CUT YOU OFF? YEAH, JUST LIKE I SAID, JUST THE, THE, THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE OF, UM, THAT REPRESENTATION HAPPENS FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIAL FOR THEM TO HAVE A FULL IMPRINT IN THAT. AND I KNOW, I BELIEVE YOU HAD SOME OTHER, UH, ASPECTS OF THE ELECTION OR NO. THAT YOU DISCUSSED, OR, UM, WELL, SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT, UH, I, I WANNA GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER FRY FIRST AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO JOHN. GO AHEAD. UM, I KNOW THAT OUR NEIGHBORS IN BLADENSBURG, THEY DO AN OCTOBER. UM, I WONDER HOW THAT WORKS WITH LIKE, ELECTION YEARS FOR LIKE OUR BIGGER ELECTIONS. SO THEY COULD BE SOMEONE WE COULD LOOK TO, TO SEE. 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD DO IT OFF YEARS OR IF THEY DO IT IN A WAY WHERE THERE'S NO CONFLICT, UM, BETWEEN THE TWO. BUT, UH, SEEING AS IT'S SUCH A BIG CHANGE, WHICH I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ACTUALLY. UM, AND I THINK GOING BACK, I, I HAD, I WENT BACK TO OUR 2023 WHEN WE FIRST STARTED AND, UM, NOTED THAT EVEN IN THAT VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER, WADE HAD EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THAT VOTE. UM, AND IT ALSO, UM, STATES THAT, UH, I SUGGESTED ALSO LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF MOVING IT, BUT IT SUCH A BIG THING. I WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING ALSO THAT SHOULD GO TO REFERENDUM OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN GO TO REFERENDUM? SURE. WELL, WE CAN PUT ANYTHING ON REFERENDUM THAT WE WOULD LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR AN ADVISORY REFERENDUM. AND THEN OF COURSE SEPARATELY THE RESIDENTS ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE ANYTHING THAT WE ADOPT TO REFERENDUM, UH, IF THEY WOULD LIKE. UM, OKAY. UH, JOHN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, NOT AT THIS TIME. OH, OKAY. YEAH, COUNSEL, IF THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, UM, THEN LET US GO TO THE PUBLIC AND WE'LL GIVE THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL TO OUR TWO SUPERVISORS WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE. BUT YOU CAN DEMURE IF YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, ON THIS. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE FALL. UM, YEAH, GO AHEAD. OKAY. HELLO, UH, ROBIN K WARD FOUR BOARD OF ELECTION SUPERVISORS. AGAIN, UM, I, THIS WAS REALLY THE ONLY REASON I CAME TO THIS MEETING TONIGHT 'CAUSE I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE MOTIVATION WAS BEHIND MOVING THE ELECTION DATE. SO JUST HAVING JUST HEARD IT. UM, I THINK I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA BRING THIS BACK TO THE BOARD FOR OUR DISCUSSION. SO TAKING OFF MY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR'S HAT AND JUST AS, AS ROBIN K THE RESIDENT OF CH I GUESS IT JUST DAWNS ON ME THERE, THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE WAYS TO, TO SKIN THIS CAT. UM, I FULLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND NOW THAT I HEAR THE REASON FOR IT, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. UM, I GUESS ONE THING YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER IS THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TAKE OFFICE IMMEDIATELY, JUST 'CAUSE WE HAVE AN ELECTION IN MAY. DOESN'T NECESSARILY DICTATE YOU START YOUR TERM IN JUNE. THAT'S HOW WE DO IT. BUT PERHAPS, UM, YOU KNOW, BUDGET COULD MOVE UP A MONTH. YOUR TERM STARTS LATER, SO MAYBE YOU SETTLE THE BUDGET IN JUNE AND THE TERM STARTS IN JULY AND THE ELECTION IS IN MAY. UM, JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE AS LIKE, THERE'S DIFFERENT PERMUTATIONS TO DO THIS, UM, VERSUS MOVING THE ELECTION A WHOLE SIX MONTHS OUT FROM THE CURRENT DATE. UM, BUT AGAIN, I'LL PUT MY BOARD OF ELECTION SUPERVISOR HAT BACK ON AND SAY, UH, WE WILL DISCUSS IT AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ATTEND OUR MEETING AND, AND TALK ABOUT IT. UM, UH, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THE NEXT ELECTION, BUT WE WANNA BE PREPARED FOR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE TOPIC. SO PLEASE KEEP US IN THE LOOP. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. PLEASE, . GO AHEAD. SHEILA. CELL WAR II, UM, I JUST, THE MAY ELECTION DATE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND IT WAS, UM, SO HISTORICALLY THAT'S THE DATE AND THE, AND, UH, MANY, MANY OF THE SURROUNDING TOWNS HAVE HAD THAT MAY DATE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND MAYBE [01:05:01] WE SHOULD LOOK INTO WHY THAT WAS THE CASE. I DON'T HAPPEN TO KNOW IT, BUT JUST KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN MADE, YOU KNOW, THE NEWSPAPERS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COUNT ON RUNNING THE WHOLE, UH, ALL OF THE PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, UM, UH, ELECTION, UH, RESULTS IN ONE COLUMN. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. PLEASE. PAUL CRUZ, WARD TWO, I, I DUNNO IF YOU NEED TO REPEAT THAT EVERY TIME, BUT YEAH. IN CASE YOU FORGOT. BUT YEAH, I GUESS THE ONLY THING I'D HAVE TO SAY IS IF WE'RE CONSIDERING CHANGING THE TIMELINE FOR ELECTIONS, MAYBE WE COULD KEEP IN MIND ACCOMMODATING SOME OF OUR YOUTH VOTERS NOW THAT WE ARE RUNNING 16 AND UP, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR VOTER ELIGIBILITY. HAVING SOMETHING THAT KEEPS THE SCHOOL YEAR IN MIND, OR MAYBE WHEN SOME OF OUR YOUNGER PEOPLE WILL BE IN TOWN. VERY GOOD POINT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WARD ONE. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL MEMBER WAGE FOR BRINGING THIS, UM, FORWARD. I, UM, I REALLY LIKE BOTH HATS THAT ROBIN, UM, WORE UP HERE. UM, ONE THING THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE AVOID IS THAT WE AVOID LINING THIS UP WITH A, A, A NATIONAL ELECTION. AND, UM, NOT ONLY BECAUSE MANY OF US ARE INVOLVED IN MANY WAYS, UM, WITH THAT. AND, UM, AND, BUT ALSO BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ME AS A RESIDENT OF CH IS THAT OUR ELECTION PROCESS CONTINUES TO BE VERY CLEARLY NONPARTISAN AND WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THAT. AND ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS, UH, TALKING WITH MY SPOUSE THIS EVENING, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVEMENT TO, UM, BRING PARTIES INTO LOCAL ELECTIONS. AND IF WE EVER WERE TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE, MISTAKE, WE WOULD BE SO SEVERELY LIMITING THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS TO TAKE OFFICE. IF YOU ARE A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE OF ANY AGENCY, MANY OTHER THINGS YOU CAN'T SERVE IN AN OFFICE THAT IS PARTISAN. SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO KEEP THAT DISTANCE BETWEEN FEDERAL ELECTIONS AND OUR LOCAL ELECTIONS IN THIS CALENDAR IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. UM, FOR, FOR OUR COMMUNITY, I I VERY MUCH LIKE, UM, THE, THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN BE ELECTED AND THEN YOU BEGIN YOUR SERVICE, UM, LATER, THAT ALLOWS THE CURRENT COUNCIL TO FINISH ITS TERM TO TAKE, ITS TO TAKE ITS ACTIONS, UM, AND THEN THE NEXT COUNCIL TO COME FORWARD. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, PLEASE AVAIL YOURSELF OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND THE CONNECTION WITH OUR BOARD OF ELECTION SUPERVISORS AND, UM, BEFORE YOU EVER LOOK AT PUTTING SOMETHING TO A REFERENDUM, THAT YOU HAVE THAT GUIDANCE ON WHAT'S GOING TO BEST WORK AND, AND FOR IMPLEMENTATION BEFORE WE GIVE CHOICES THAT ACTUALLY CREATE HURDLES, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVE CHOICES THAT AREN'T REALISTIC OUT TO COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT ON POTENTIALLY MOVING TOWN ELECTION DATES? UH, OKAY. HEARING NONE. OH, COUNCIL MEMBER FRAN. SORRY, I'D ALREADY TURNED MY MIC. UM, TO THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS AS YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THIS, THE CHANGE IN DATE THING. I THINK EDMONDSON, THEY DO A MAY ELECTION, BUT THEY DO A JUNE SWEARING IN. SO THEY COULD BE ONE TO LOOK AT IN REGARDS TO JUST KIND OF THAT DELAY. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE THE ONE ONE OFF THAT KIND OF DOES, THEY DON'T DO THE NEXT TOWN MEETING, BUT THEY DON'T, SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S TRUE, THEY DON'T. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, OKAY, I THINK THAT TAKES US TO ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHEVROLET DAY PARTICIPATION. UM, SO CHEVROLET DAY, AS YOU MAY KNOW, IS COMING UP FAST ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH. CHEVROLET WEEK, I BELIEVE STARTS THE 18TH. UM, SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE ARE DOING. UM, I GUESS STARTING WITH THE PARADE AND WORKING BACKWARDS, [01:10:02] UM, THERE WAS AN IDEA, AND JOHN CAN HELP ME WITH SOME OF THE DETAILS IF I GET 'EM WRONG, BUT THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FROM THE CHEVROLET DAY COMMITTEE THAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR AN EVENT DURING THE WEEK. UM, BUT RESPONSIBLE WOULD ACTUALLY BE RESPONSIBLE. LIKE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING FOR IT. I THINK THE PROPOSAL FROM JOANIE WAS, UH, A MOVIE NIGHT AND I THINK IT WAS MIDWEEK. UM, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. UH, WE CAN MARCH IN THE PARADE OR NOT MARCH IN THE PARADE. UM, I KIND OF THROW THE FLOOR OPEN TO WHAT, WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT WE NEED TO DECIDE TONIGHT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE ACTUALLY NEED TO DO. LIKE WE CAN'T HAVE STAFF DO IT. SO ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE, UH, THIS BODY TO DO FOR CHEVROLET WEEK? CHEVROLET DAY? JOHN, GO AHEAD. WELL, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO MARCH AT THE HEAD OF THE PARADE. THAT'S WHAT THE, UH, COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE US TO DO, IS TO, UM, KICK OFF THE PARADE, UM, TO HAVE US ALL BEEN. WE'VE ALSO HAD A, UM, THERE'S BEEN A DISCUSSION THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BE IN CARS IF WE'RE NOT WALKING, UH, ALONG THE PARADE ROUTE. UM, BUT THAT IS ALL OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. BUT I DO HOPE THAT ALL OF US UP HERE WILL KICK OFF THE PARADE IN STYLE BY MARCHING DOWN CHEVROLET AVENUE. UM, UH, SO PARENTHETICALLY TO THAT, I KNOW THERE'S ALSO BEEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, THE REVIEWING STAND. AND I'M GONNA PUT DAVE, CAN I ON THE SPOT HERE BECAUSE HAVE WE ARRANGED FOR THE FLOATING STAGE TO BE BROUGHT TO? NOT YET. NOT YET. OKAY. BECAUSE WE, WE ARE LOOKING INTO, THERE WAS A, IS IT, UH, PARK AND PLANNING HAS A, LIKE A REVIEWING STAND THAT WE COULD GET? NO, YEAH, NO PARK AND PLANNING NO LONGER LOANS OUT, BUT REVIEWING STANDS. BUT I THINK DAVE FOUND SOMETHING, ANOTHER OPTION. IS THAT CORRECT? NO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE IS THAT WE WOULD BRING UP BLEACHERS FROM HERE, UM, WHICH NOT, WOULD NOT BE THE NECESSARILY THE MOST COMFORTABLE OPTION, BUT WE WOULD FIND AN, AN OPTION FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO SIT BECAUSE WE WILL BE THE JUDGES FOR THE PARADE AS EVERYONE ELSE MARCHES BY BECAUSE THERE WILL BE THE AWARDING OF PRIZES AND, UH, OTHER, UH, AWARDS FOR THE BEST FLOATS AND GROUPS IN THE PARADE. UH, AS FAR AS THE EVENT DURING SHOVEL WEEK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CERTAINLY DO SOMETHING AND EVEN IF IT'S JUST SORT OF THE SPONSORING AND WE COULD PARTNER WITH THE BEVERLY DAY COMMITTEE TO FIND AN EVENT THAT IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE AS, YOU KNOW, IN THE WORDS OF MAYOR WATSON, THE HEAVY LIFTING. BUT WE COULD FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT BE OVERLY ONEROUS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD PLAN ON MARCHING. UM, I THINK WE SHOULD PLAN ON JUDGING. WE'RE VERY GOOD AT JUDGING OTHER PEOPLE, SO, UM, WE SHOULD PLAN ON JUDGING, UM, THE PARADE. IS THERE ENTHUSIASM FOR A TYPE OF EVENT FOR US TO DO? I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING THAT WE HATE, THAT FOLKS HATE DOING 'CAUSE THEN WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THE WORK. UH, MR. GARCE, UM, HAVE WE BEEN PROVIDED A FULL SCHEDULE THAT WEEK YET? AND IF NOT, WHEN WILL WE RECEIVE THAT JUST SO WE COULD BETTER PLAN? UM, GREAT QUESTION. I MEAN, I THINK, UH, THE COMMITTEE CAN GET, UH, WE CAN HAVE THE COMMITTEE EMAIL YOU THE LATEST VEST. IT'S ON THE CHEVROLET BAY WEBSITE. OH, IS THAT UPDATED? YEAH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT UHHUH. WHAT? . ALRIGHT, WE'LL ASK THEM TO EMAIL THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL THE LATEST, BEST, UM, MATRIX THAT JOANIE HAS MAINTAINED MAINTAINING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. EACH OF THE, UH, I GUESS IT'S EIGHT OR NINE DAYS, EIGHT DAYS STARTING ON FRIDAY. MR. WADE. Y YEAH, JUST ALSO, JUST MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THE DAY OF, I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW, IT'S, IT SAYS 12:00 PM START DATE. LIKE SO WHAT TIME IS THE PARADE GONNA BE? SO THE, THE SCHEDULE? YEAH, IT'S LIKE A NINE 30 LINEUP, SO WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE. I APPRECIATE THAT. MM-HMM . RIGHT? SO ALL THE MORNING STUFF HAS BEEN MOVED TO OTHER DATES, THE TRADITIONAL MORNING STUFF, THE [01:15:01] SOFTBALL GAME, THE SOCCER GAME BECAUSE OF THE PARADE. SO IT'LL BE SORT OF A NINE 30 LINEUP, 10 O'CLOCK PARADE KICKOFF. AND THEN THE OTHER STUFF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STUFF UP ON THIS PROPERTY BASICALLY KICKS OFF AT NOON. DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? GO AHEAD. UM, TWO THINGS. ONE IS THAT, UH, USUALLY I AM VERY EAGER TO JUMP IN AND VOLUNTEER AND DO THE THINGS. UM, BUT I HAVE AN EXHIBITION OPENING, UM, A WEEK AND A HALF AFTER THAT. SO I WON'T REALLY BE AVAILABLE THOSE EVENINGS, BUT I AM HAPPY TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT SOMETHING IF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL SO CHOOSES. I ALSO WANTED TO SUGGEST IF THERE AREN'T ANY EVENTS THAT WEEK SO FAR HAPPENING AT THE APARTMENTS, IF WE MIGHT CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING THERE, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS AN EVENT THERE OR REPRESENTATION THERE. UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GARCIA ABOUT, UH, REACHING OUT TO THEM WITH SAVE THE DATE CARDS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING TRANSLATED INTO SPANISH AND MOVING THROUGH WITH THEIR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE INVOLVED. YES, SIR. YEAH, I DO WANNA POINT THAT OUT. UM, I DO WANT TO THANK THE CHEVROLET DAY COMMITTEE. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SUPER AWESOME AND ON TOP OF REACHING OUT TO, UH, WAR FIVE AND SIX RESIDENTS, THE CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENTS. I MEAN, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ARE, ARE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT CHEVY DAY. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST, IT JUST, IT'S VERY, IT'S OVERWHELMING IN A GOOD WAY. SO I DO WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR DEFINITELY REACHING OUT THIS YEAR. UM, OKAY, SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE BACK WITH THE MOVIE NIGHT, WHICH I CAN, WHAT I CAN DO IS GO BACK TO JOANIE AND SEE WHAT OPTIONS ARE LEFT, AND THEN MAYBE WE'LL JUST DO A STRAW VOTE BY TEXT AND WE'LL COMMIT TO ONE OF THEM. AND IF TWO, OR TH IF AT LEAST TWO OF US ARE LIKE GUNG HO ABOUT IT, THEN IT'LL GET DONE. MR. GALLWAY, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? NO, I WAS GONNA LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE ALL THE MATERIAL THAT YOU NEED FOR MOVIE NIGHT. IT'S REAL EASY SODA, BUT IF YOU NEED SOMETHING THAT NEEDS MUSIC, KEEP ME IN MIND AS WELL AS I AM A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL. EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. I IMAGINE YOU'LL BE PRETTY STRETCHED, STRETCHED PRETTY THIN THAT WEEK, BUT, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE OFFER. UM, AND I, YEAH, I, I THINK WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHETHER, YEAH, IF WE CAN PICK MS. WHITE'S BRAIN AND TAKE SOME OF HER EXPERTISE WITHOUT TAKING HER TIME, SOME OF HER LIKE TRICKS AND TIPS, UH, AND JUST BASICALLY PLATE, YOU KNOW, COPY AND PASTE HER TEMPLATE FOR DOING THESE THINGS SUCCESSFULLY, THEN MAYBE WE CAN JUST BORROW THE GYM AND DO IT. UM, ALRIGHT, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH ABOUT THAT. I THINK WE CAN PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A PIN IN THAT. UM, COUNCIL, ANYTHING ELSE ON CH DAY? UM, SORRY, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL PARTICIPATION IN, WHILE WE'RE ON IT, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHN OR THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU WANT HIM TO TAKE BACK? ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE GONNA GET 'EM TO EMAIL JONI'S MATRIX TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND MR. WHICH INCLUDES MR. GALLOWAY. UH, OKAY. I THINK THAT TAKES US ONTO MR. GALLOWAY'S TOWN ADMINISTRATOR REPORT. THANK YOU. UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I DO KNOW THAT, UH, REPRESENTATIVE KELLER IS ON TONIGHT, AND I DO KNOW THAT OUR ENGINEER, MS. ROBIN BAHAR IS AVAILABLE AS WELL. SO WE CAN START THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR REPORT OFF WITH A, UH, IN BUILDING UPDATE AND I WILL DEFER TO PATRICK AND THEN ROBIN CAN CONCLUDE. PATRICK, ARE YOU OUT THERE? WE CAN, YES. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. GO AHEAD PLEASE. THANK YOU. YEAH, SO WE HAVE, UM, UH, COMPLETED THE MODIFICATION TO THE, UM, THE DRAINS, UH, ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND, UM, HAVE, UH, PLACED SOME SOD IN THAT AREA. UH, THERE'S ABOUT THREE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE ARE COMPLETING AS WELL. THERE'S THE AS-BUILT SURVEY AND SUBMISSION THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED AND, UH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT COULD BE A DURATION OF ABOUT SIX WEEKS, WHICH WOULD, UH, BRING US UP TO, UM, [01:20:01] YOU KNOW, SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS, BRING US UP TO ABOUT A WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 7TH, UM, FOR THAT TO GET FINALIZED. UM, THERE IS A GATE CONTROLLER FOR THE YARD THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PLACE. UM, IT INVOLVES, UH, SOME CUTTING OF ASPHALT AND, UM, SOME ELECTRICAL WORK. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT DURATION WOULD TAKE, UH, ABOUT SIX WEEKS FROM, UH, MONDAY THE 27TH OF JULY. UM, AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE THE GARAGE EQUIPMENT AND SOLAR ACTIVATION AND WE ANTICIPATE, UM, THAT, UH, THAT WILL ALSO TAKE ABOUT SEVEN WEEKS, UH, BRINGING US INTO A US OCCUPANCY, UH, WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 7TH. UM, AND IT WILL ALL DEPEND ON HOW QUICKLY THE COUNTY WILL ISSUE THE MODIFICATION TO THE PERMIT. UM, KCI, UM, AND RRMM ARE FINALIZING THOSE DOCUMENTS AND WE ANTICIPATE, UM, SUBMITTING FOR THAT IN THE NEXT WEEK, UM, TO THE COUNTY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A FINAL USE AND OCCUPANCY THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 7TH THIS YEAR. ALRIGHT. AND, UM, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE GET THE UNO? I MEAN, MR. GALLOWAY AND HIS TEAM GET THE KEYS AND THEN IT'S ALL THE WORK IS DONE, OR THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO DO IN THE WARM PART OF THE AUTUMN? UH, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON, UH, THE FINAL PUNCH LISTS. UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, WORK TO BE DONE IN THE GARAGE AREA, SO THAT WILL HAVE TO GET PUNCHED OUT, BUT OUR HOPE IS TO, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE THE PROJECT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE CHEVROLET DAYS, OBVIOUSLY. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WEEK OF THE SEVENTH, UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE FULL OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING. YOU'VE ALREADY GOT TEMPORARY OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING, AT LEAST IN THE OFFICE AREA AND, UM, UH, WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW IN TIA'S ROOM. UH, BUT, UH, YEAH, YOU SHOULD HAVE FULL, UH, USE OF THE ENTIRE BUILDING, UM, BY THE WEEK OF THE SEVENTH SEPTEMBER. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 30 OR 60 DAYS OF PUNCH TO DO, I THINK, UM, LIGHT SWITCHES AND THAT SORT OF THING. I THINK THAT'S TO BE POSSIBLY MM-HMM. YEP. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED. CAN YOU TELL US, SINCE YOU MENTIONED THE FIELD, WHAT CAN, AND THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TECHNICAL, SO MR. GALLOWAY MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOME OF THIS, BUT, BUT WHAT CAN OUR AUTUMN SOCCER TEAMS, YOUTH SOCCER TEAMS EXPECT? AND THEN WHAT CAN OUR CHEVROLET DAY PATRONS EXPECT ON THE 26TH OF SEPTEMBER? SO THERE'S SOD ALREADY IN PLACE, UH, ON THE FIELD EXTENSION AND GOING DOWN TO THE SWALE, UH, THERE IS A UNDER DRAIN OR A FRENCH DRAIN THAT HAS TO BE INSTALLED, UH, IN THE SWALE. UH, UH, SO THERE WILL BE SOME DISTURBANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, OF THE SOD IN THE SWALE. THERE'S SOME MINOR GRADING THAT HAS TO BE DONE ALONG THE, THE TRACK. UM, THERE'S A BIT OF A A, THERE'S SOME LOW SPOTS NEXT TO THE BUILDING THAT WE'D LIKE TO RAISE THE GRADE SO THAT THE WATER DOESN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, POND RIGHT ALONG THE TRACK BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE TRACK AND, UH, RIGHT WHERE THE HOLLY TREES ARE. AND, UH, AND THEN EVEN, UH, FURTHER, UH, WEST OF THAT TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, FULL GRASS GROWING, YOU SHOULD BE, YOU HAVE USE OF THE ENTIRE SPACE, UM, ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. IT'LL BE LEVEL, NO, THE SW IS A V SHAPE. YEAH. UM, BUT, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE USE OF THE TRACK, UM, THE GROUND BETWEEN THE EXIST, THE, THE BUILDING AND THE TRACK WILL BE RAISED SO THAT IT'S FLUSH WITH EACH OTHER. RIGHT NOW. THERE, THERE'S SOME LOW POINTS IN THERE AND IT'S PONDING, THERE'S WATER PONDING AND, UH, WE, WE NEED TO TRY TO RAISE THAT GRADE. AND THEN REM MULCH EVERYTHING, UH, ALONG THE HOLLY TREES. TREES. OKAY. [01:25:01] AND THE RESTROOMS ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE. ALL YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE, ARE THEY AVAILABLE NOW? WHEN ARE THEY AVAILABLE? ARE THERE TWO OF THEM? YEAH, SO ONE OF THEM I THINK IS AVAILABLE NOW, AND MAYBE ROBIN CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. UH, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONE THAT IS AVAILABLE. WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME OF OUR CRAFT LABOR, UH, GOING BACK TO CHEVROLET EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK. UH, ONCE WE GET A CYLINDER, WE ARE JUST WAITING ON ONE CYLINDER TO COME IN. UH, AND, UH, WE BELIEVE WE, WE HAD SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT TODAY. SO ONCE THAT CYLINDER IS IN AND THAT HARDWARE IS ON, UH, SHOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE BATHROOMS. UH, THERE IS SOME OTHER HARDWARE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, IS RELATED TO, UH, SECURITY. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, UH, THERE'S SOME MAG LOCKS THAT HAVE TO BE INSTALLED ON THE EXTERIOR DOORS. UM, THEY'RE ALL ON SITE. UM, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UH, COORDINATING WITH OUR, OUR, OUR INSTALLER AND WE'LL GET THOSE INSTALLED. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN AUGUST THING? YEAH, THAT IS AN AUGUST THING. YEP. OKAY. BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IMPORTANT FOR OUR FALL SPORTS, BUT THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT. THOSE TWO BATHROOMS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO JOHN'S COMMITTEE'S CHEVROLET DAY PLAN, UH, BECAUSE IT DETERMINES HOW MANY PORTA JOHN'S WE HAVE TO RENT, ET CETERA. UM, OKAY. UM, COUNSEL, OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I'VE FORGOTTEN? UM, MAYOR, IF I COULD ADD BEFORE PLEASE. UM, SO TWO THINGS. UH, ONE ABOUT THE BATHROOMS, UM, I CAN CHECK WITH DPW STAFF, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T THINK EITHER OF THE BATHROOMS ARE CURRENTLY OPEN UNTIL WE GET THE MAG LOCKS INSTALLED, BUT AS PATRICK SAID THAT THEY SHOULD THAT END BY THE FALL FOR CHEVROLET STAY AND, AND OBVIOUSLY BY THE TIME WE GET TO FINAL UNO AND ALL OF THAT. UM, SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY'RE OPEN TODAY AT THIS POINT. OKAY. ON IT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. YEAH. THE, THE SECOND THING I WANNA CLARIFY, UM, NOT THAT EVERYTHING THAT PATRICK RELAYED TONIGHT, UM, IS ACCURATE AS FAR AS I'M AWARE OF NOW. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY FOR, UM, THE VICE MAYOR, THE COUNCIL, AND THE RESIDENTS THAT ATTENDED, UH, THE COUNCIL MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, UM, AT THAT, AT THAT MEETING, I RELAYED THAT IT WAS MY, OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM INFORMATION WE HAD RECEIVED WAS THAT THE KELLER SUBCONTRACTOR THAT'S GONNA INSTALL THE UNDER DRAIN, UH, IN THAT SWALE NEXT TO THE TRACK BY THE BUILDING, UH, THAT WAS WORK WAS GONNA START JULY 13TH. THAT WORK DID NOT BEGIN THEN BECAUSE OF SOME DELAYS IN COORDINATING WITH THEIR SUBCONTRACTOR. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, JUST SO THERE WAS NO CONFUSION WITH THE RESIDENTS. 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT AT THAT MEETING. UM, SO AS PATRICK RELAYED TONIGHT, THAT WORK STILL DOES NEED TO BE COMPLETED. UM, WE, IN OUR STATUS MEETINGS, UM, AN EXACT DATE FOR THAT HAS NOT BEEN SET YET. SO WE WILL HAVE TO COORDINATE AND SHARE THAT ONCE THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE. BUT I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO BE CONFUSED CALLING WHAT I HAD SHARED TWO WEEKS AGO, UM, AND THINKING, AND ALSO THEN WHAT PATRICK SAID TONIGHT OF THAT SAYING THAT THAT STILL NEED TO BE DONE. SO I JUST WANNA OFFER THAT CLARIFICATION. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET THE UNDER DRAIN WORK DONE? THAT IS ABOUT A WEEK OF WORK TO INSTALL THAT DRAIN AND TO CONNECT THE DOWNSPOUT FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT SERVES A CANOPY TO, UM, THE LARGE 60 INCH, UH, PIPE THAT'S UNDER THE GROUND. THAT'S ABOUT A WEEK, WEEKS' WORTH, WORTH OF WORK. WELL, THEY CAN START THAT WORK. SO THE DESIGN TEAM HAS PREPARED A, A SKETCH FOR THAT. THEY'VE SENT THAT OVER TO ME AND DPW STAFF. SO WE'RE REVIEWING THAT TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT BACK TO PATRICK. THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE THE WORK. BUT THAT JUST CAME THROUGH THIS WEEK. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNSEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, MR. GALLOWAY, WE'LL, OH, GO AHEAD. UM, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T HAVE UNO BY CHEVROLET DAY. I, [01:30:01] I'M GOING KICK IT TO PATRICK. SO THE GOAL IS TO HAVE IT BEFORE CHEVROLET DAY DAYS. UM, THE USE AND OCCUPANCY, UH, YOU HAVE TEMPORARY USE AND OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING AND WE'VE BEEN EXTENDING THAT ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS. UM, THAT PERMIT, UH, NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED, RENEWED, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, BY, UH, AUGUST, SORRY, BY SEPTEMBER 4TH BECAUSE IT EXPIRES ON SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH. SO WE HAVE A PLANNED MEETING FOR, UM, AUGUST THE 14TH, I BELIEVE, TO DISCUSS EXTENDING THAT, THAT, UH, TEMPORARY USE AND ANCY PERMIT. SO YOU HAVE USE OF THE BUILDING, YOU HAVE USE OF THE, UH, FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR OF THE OFFICE AREA AND, UH, TIA'S ROOM. UM, YOU HAVE FULL USE OF THE BATHROOMS. UM, WHAT YOU DO NOT HAVE FULL USE OF, UM, IS THE, UH, THE GARAGE AREA, THE HIGH BAY AREAS IN, IN THE BACK BECAUSE THERE IS EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE POWERED UP IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT, UH, A FUNCTIONING SPACE. SO WE, WE PLAN TO HAVE, UH, USE ANCY BY SEPTEMBER THE 11TH, WHICH IS ABOUT FRIDAY THE WEEK OF THE SEVENTH. AND WHEN DOES THE FENCE COME DOWN? UH, ONCE THE DRAIN IS INSTALLED, UH, THE FENCE WILL COME DOWN. DO YOU HAVE A APPROXIMATE DATE FOR THAT? WELL, WE ACTUALLY, UM, HAVE THAT WORK TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY. BUT THERE'S SOME PIECES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. UM, WE NEED TO GET ROBIN'S APPROVAL, UH, CPJ, UH, LIKE SHE, LIKE ROBIN JUST MENTIONED, UH, THAT WAS RECEIVED ON MONDAY, I BELIEVE, AND WE SENT IT, WE SENT IT TO YOU ON MONDAY. YEAH. AND UH, SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THAT. THEY PROBABLY NEED THE REST OF THIS WEEK TO DO THAT. AND, UH, AND SO, SO THE INSTALLATION MAY SLIP, UH, PENDING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT APPROVAL COMES, COMES OUR WAY. BUT IT'S ONLY A WEEK'S WORTH OF WORK. THE CRITICAL PATH IS REALLY THROUGH THE GARAGE AREA. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. GALLOWAY ARMED WITH YOUR REPORT, I THINK. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU PATRICK. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, ROBIN. MAYOR COUNSEL, JUST TO PROVIDE A FEW UPDATES, UH, UH, STAFF AND I HAD A MEETING, UH, EARLIER IN THE WEEK WITH SHA MEMBERS OF SHA PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY, UM, PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION, AND MEMBERS OF BOTH OF OUR COUNTY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE'S OFFICE TO DISCUSS THE ONGOING MATTER OF TRAFFIC SAFETY ALONG THE COLUMBIA PARK RAMP. UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE PRETTY MUCH. AND, UM, UH, THE DAY AFTER THE MEETING I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM THE DISTRICT ENGINEER ASKING IF WE COULD PROVIDE A, UH, LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR, UH, TRAFFIC BALLOTS, UH, GOING EASTBOUND ON 50. UM, MAYOR COUNCIL, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN FAVOR OF FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I HAVE NOT PROVIDED THAT LETTER YET, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE A STRONG CONSENSUS FROM THE ENTIRE MAYOR COUNCIL AND I WILL PROVIDE THAT LETTER TONIGHT. UM, JUST MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE OUR SUPPORT. UM, I SEE A LOT OF SKEPTICISM UP HERE ABOUT THAT IDEA. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, CAN I PUT IT IN MYSELF? ? SO JUST TO CLARIFY, FOR THE PUBLIC, THESE ARE, UM, THESE WOULD BOLLARDS WOULD BE FOR THE EASTBOUND RAMP. UM, SO IF THE NORTH ONLY TO BE UTILIZED BY NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC CORRECT. IS TRYING TO MAKE THE TURN TO GO EASTBOUND ON ROUTE 50. I THINK YOU HAVE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT TO SEND THAT LETTER. GREAT. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THAT LETTER IN TO, UH, SHA TONIGHT, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT HE KNOWS THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORT. BUT OVERALL, UM, AS SHA INDICATED TO THE MARYLAND COUNCIL, UH, NEXT SUMMER, THIS SHOULD BE AT 100% COMPLETION OF THE, OF THE BIGGER PROJECT. AND WE [01:35:01] ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION TO HAPPEN IN THE EARLY PART OF THE FALL OF NEXT YEAR, UH, TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE THERE. SO, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. UH, MADAM COUNSEL, JUST A REMINDER ON A FEW THINGS, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WILL BE TUESDAY, AUGUST THE FOURTH. UM, IT'S GONNA BE A CHEESE PARK THIS YEAR. OKAY. UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BACK TO SCHOOL BASH ON AUGUST THE 21ST. UM, MORE DETAILS WILL BE COMING OUT ABOUT THAT. UM, STAND ON THE YOUTH COUNCIL. UH, THE YOUTH COUNCIL SUBMISSIONS ARE DUE TO, UH, MS. WHITE AND MYSELF NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER THE FIRST. UM, PLEASE GET YOUR YOUTH COUNCIL SUBMISSIONS IN BECAUSE AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING WE WILL BE NOMINATING VOTING AND SWEARING IN THE NEW YOUTH COUNCIL. JUST TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ABOUT, UH, SORRY. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. THERE WAS A QUESTION FROM THE VICE MAYOR. MY APOLOGIES. CAN YOU REMIND US, UM, OR HAVE MS. WHITE SEND US INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE AGE RANGE IS, WHAT, WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR THE YOUTH COUNCIL? SURE WILL. THANK YOU. JUST AS A BRIEF UPDATE ABOUT ACE HARDWARE REDEVELOPMENT, UH, WE HAVE A MEETING WITH ELAINE . MM-HMM . UM, AND WE DISCUSSED THAT, UM, SHE'S STILL IN THE PROCESS OF SECURING THE ACTUAL LOAN TO PURCHASE. UM, AND THAT SETTLEMENT WAS GOING FORWARD AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. UH, THE TOWN WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, SEEKING POTENTIAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, UH, THROUGH THE MARYLAND STATE REVITALIZATION PROGRAM. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HER. UH, JUST TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE MAYOR COUNCIL. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ZALO, UM, PUTTING QR PLAQUES ON CERTAIN ON ALL THE PARKS TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PARKS ARE IN THE TOWN. SO IF YOU ARE OUT ON A WALK AND YOU WANTED TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTUAL PARK, UM, MS. SOLO AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED AS IT RELATES TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROJECT. YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO KICK THIS ONE OVER TO MS. PROM. GOOD EVENING. UM, SO MY CURRENT UPDATES FOR CDBG ARE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY HOLD OUR PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING WITH DHCD AND OUR VENDORS, MID-ATLANTIC A*****E, THE CHIEF AND I ALSO WENT OUT AND WALKED THE SITE TO DISCUSS ANY POTENTIAL ISSUES AND SCHEDULING THAT WE FORESEE IN THE FUTURE. AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY ANTICIPATE THAT SCHEDULING WILL HAPPEN BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER. SO WE'LL PROVIDE UPDATES CLOSER TO THAT DATE. FOR THE TIME BEING, WE'RE JUST RELEASING, WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR RELEASE TO PROCEED FROM DHCD. SO THAT'S MY CURRENT UPDATE ON THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS, CDBG QUESTIONS? NO. THANK YOU FOR MANAGING IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. I DO KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT BE PAVING OR RESURFACING OR RE-PIPING. THEY CAN JUST HOLD OFF A FEW MORE MONTHS. IT'LL BE COMPLETELY BRAND NEW. OKAY. AND STAYING IN THE OLD FOURTH WARD, 64TH AVENUE BRIDGE. UM, AND COUNCIL, I KNOW DIRECTOR BRAMAN, UM, SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, BUT, UM, WE MET WITH THE PROJECT ENGINEER WHO WAS FINALIZING THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE REPAIRS OF THE ONLY TOWNLAND BRIDGE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS LOCATED ON 64TH AVENUE. UM, THIS IS, THIS BRIDGE HAS BEEN INSPECTED BY THE STATE AND CORRECTIVE MEASURES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. ACCORDING TO, UH, THE FORMER PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UM, I, THE FORMER PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR INDICATED TO ME THAT, UH, WE CAN PAY FOR THE ACTUAL ENGINEERING COSTS AND THE ACTUAL REPAIRS OF THE BRIDGE THROUGH HUR FUNDS. AND WE INTEND TO DO SO. UM, UPON COMPLETION OF THE ACTUAL SCOPE, WE WILL HAVE THE ENGINEER, UM, AND THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM COME IN AND DO A PRESENTATION TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH AN UPDATE AS THAT WAS, UM, A MEETING THAT HAS HAPPENED. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE 64TH? A OKAY. [01:40:01] AS IT RELATES TO WSSC WATER UPDATES, STAFF MET WITH WSSC WATER AND ITS CONTRACTOR TO DISCUSS THE REPAIRS RELATED TO THE PARKWAY SINKHOLE. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THAT SINKHOLE WILL BE REPAIRED IN THE NEXT 10 DAYS, WHETHER PERMITTING. WE ALSO MET ALONGSIDE LOCKWOOD ROAD TO REVIEW ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS AND RESTORATION CONCERNS. SO, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO WSSC, PLEASE GET THOSE TO ME MOVING FORWARD TO ANOTHER CONTRACTOR, PEPCO, I WILL BE MO I WILL BE MEETING WITH PEPCO, UH, TO DISCUSS STREETLIGHTS AND PEPCO CONCERNS. IF YOU HAVE PEPCO CONCERNS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YES. UH, I WOULD THINK THAT, UM, BASED ON THE SORT OF THE, SOME OF THE TRAFFIC I'VE SEEN JUST ON THE EXCHANGE RECENTLY ABOUT PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR HIGH PEPCO BILLS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY I THINK WAS DUE TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE EXTREME HEAT THAT WE HAD LAST MONTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR SORT OF THESE CONTRACTORS TO SORT OF BE ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE OF COMING AND TALKING TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER MONTH WE HAVE PEPCO AGAIN AND FOLLOWED BY WSSC FOLLOWED BY, YOU KNOW, VERIZON TO COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT ISSUES BEFORE THE TOWN SO THAT WE CAN REGULARLY BE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE IN THE TOWN. I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THEM. THANK YOU. THERE IS A LIGHT OUT JUST BEFORE YOU TURN ONTO 64TH INTO THE OLD FOURTH WARD. I'VE REPORTED IT, I'VE REPORTED IT TOO, AND I WROTE RONNIE ABOUT IT. UH, WE CAN CHANGE A GO. IT HAS COME DOWN REGULARLY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT IS SO CURSED ABOUT THAT POLL, BUT IF WE CAN GET SOME TYPE OF REINFORCEMENT, I GUESS THERE'S SOMETHING THEY CAN ESCALATE UP TO SAY, HEY, WHAT, WHAT COULD BE CAUSING THIS? IT'S A PRETTY TALL POLE, SO IT'S GOTTA BE SOME UNUSUALLY UNUSUAL TRAFFIC THAT IS DAMAGING IT. BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SAY, HEY, IS THERE ANOTHER SPEC? YOU GUYS CAN BUILD THIS TOO. SO IT'S MORE RESILIENT, UH, TO COUNCIL MEMBER LOLO'S POINT. I ALSO THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US TO PUT OUT A NOTICE TO THE TOWN THAT WE DO HAVE DISCOUNTED ENERGY AUDITS THROUGH PEPCO AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DISCOUNTS YOU CAN GET ON IMPROVEMENTS FOR INSULATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYONE, ANYONE'S BILL TOMORROW, BUT IF YOU CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OUT, UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE MORE PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE ENERGY AUDIT PROCESS AND, UH, BRINGING IN, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS. MR. WADE, YOU HAD A PEPCO ITEM? YEAH, UH, WELL FIRST THE, UH, WSSC, UH, DID, UH, SEND MS. PROM, UH, SHE PROBABLY GOT THE EMAIL TODAY REGARDING TWO MAJOR ISSUES. ONE ON LOCKWOOD, ONE ON CREST. UM, ALSO WE MENTIONED THE NAME RONNIE FOR FUTURE FOR REFERENCE. RONNIE MC TIER IS HER LAST NAME. MM-HMM . SHE IS THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FOR PEPCO. JUST TO SHOUT HER OUT. UM, SHE ACTUALLY TABLED AT THE COMMUNITY, UH, THE WARD ONE, UH, COMMUNITY DAY EVENT AND JUST THE, UH, LEVEL OF CONVERSATION WITH RESIDENTS WHO WERE THERE, UM, FAR AS THE INFORMATION. SO SHE PROBABLY HAS A LOT OF DATA BASED ON HER ATTENDING THAT EVENT OF RESIDENTS AND THEIR CONCERNS, EVEN THE RESPONSE FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE THERE AS WELL. BUT JUST TO THANK YOU TO RONNIE FOR, UH, COMING UP TO THE LAST SATURDAY AT THAT PARTICULAR EVENT. BUT AGAIN, WITH WHAT MR. GO SAID, HAVING THESE PEOPLE ON THE CYCLE TO COME TO, UH, THE TOWN WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED FROM THAT. AND I DO HAVE, I'M ACTUALLY, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH HER, BUT I'LL ALSO HAVE A LIST OF, UH, LIKES THAT ARE OUT AS WELL. SO I'LL FORWARD THAT TO YOU. IF YOU HAVE LIGHTS OUT, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO THE, THE STREET LIGHT OUTAGE AND AS FAR AS REPORTING IT, YEAH, YOU CAN REPORT WE'VE DONE THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEAR, UH, COUPLE YEARS NOW. PEPCO MAY NOT OWN THE PHONE. SO, SO THERE'S, THAT'S THAT, THAT'S WHAT THE DISCREPANCY IS. SEND THAT. IT'S THE REASON WHY I SAID, I ACTUALLY SAID, UM, RONNIE AGREED TO GO ON A DRIVE WITH ME TO, UH, THROUGHOUT THE WARD TO DO THAT. OKAY. HMM. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON WSSC OR PEPCO FOR MR. GALLOWAY? ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO. OH, OKAY. OKAY. WELL, MAY I COUNSEL? THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. OH, YOU THE FOURTH WARD. RAIN GARDEN. IT'S [01:45:01] FIXED. OH, IT'S FIXED. YES, IT EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. UH, DAVID, WE NEED TO REMEMBER TO TELL MR. REDDICK BECAUSE HE RAISED THIS AT A FOURTH WARD CIVIC ASSOCIATION MEETING. SO WE JUST HAVE TO REMEMBER TO REPORT THIS IS AT THE END OF 61ST, THE, THE END OF 61ST, WHICH, WHERE, WHAT'S THE LOCATION OF THIS RING? GUARDIAN BOY PARKWAY. . OH, THIS IS BOYD PARK. YES, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE, OH, A REGULAR COMPLAINT AT THE END OF 61ST AND WHAT I BELIEVE IS A, I'M NOT SURE IT'S TECHNICALLY A RAIN GARDEN, BUT IT'S, I WOULD'VE CALLED IT ONE, UM, THAT LOOKS, UH, OVER OVERGROWN ACCORDING TO ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BOYD PARK? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. HE'S TALKING ABOUT 61ST AND REED. YEAH. OKAY, WELL, SO LET'S NOT TELL MR. REDDICK UNTIL WE ACTUALLY FIX THAT PROBLEM. . ALRIGHT. SORRY, MR. GALLOWAY, ANYTHING FURTHER? THAT'S IT. COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR? ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, LET'S GO ON TO ITEM 10. MR. GARCE OR COUNCIL MEMBER FRY ANYTHING FOR CSA AIR CONDITIONING UPDATE? MAYBE ON THAT. ? UM, I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN IT'S STILL HORRIBLE, BUT, UM, GOD, IT WAS LIKE, I FEEL LIKE I, I I FEEL LIKE A BROKEN RECORD MAN. JUST CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW. UM, BUT, UH, I GUESS SOME UPDATES, UM, I KNOW, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, WITH THE COUNTY REGARDING, UH, CHANGING LEGISLATIONS AND, AND ACS. UM, ONE THING I DO WANT TO CALL OUT ON THE TOWN OF CH IS JUST COME SUPPORT AND MAYBE YOU GUYS ARE NOT EXPERIENCING WITH MY RESIDENTS IN WARD FIVE AND WARD SIX ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE GOING THROUGH, I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE, OH, THEY JUST AC ONE NIGHT, ONE DAY IN THOSE APARTMENTS WITHOUT AC IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST HORRIBLE THING YOU COULD EXPERIENCE. IT'S LIKE NEAR TO HELL, RIGHT? UM, I LIVE THERE SO I, I KNOW FIRST FACT THAT WHAT'S GOING, WHAT GOES ON THERE. UM, BUT YES, UH, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO COUNTY. THEY, UH, SHE, UH, UH, SHEILA, UM, ADAMS SHAILA, SORRY, SHAILA M STAFFORD THE OFFICE, UM, REGARDING CHANGING LEGISLATION AND TRYING TO GAIN SUPPORT WITH THAT, UM, REGARDING AC AND THE UM, UM, AND THE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER FOR LANDLORDS TO MAINTAIN THE, UM, INNER UNITS OR ANY RENTAL PROPERTIES, UM, UNDER 80 DEGREES. UM, SO THAT'S SIMILAR WORK, BUT I DO, LIKE I SAID, I DO CALL ON TOWN TO COME SHOW SUPPORT FOR YOUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS IN WARD FIVE AND SIX AND CHEVY STATION APARTMENTS. UM, WE'RE ALREADY GETTING WORD THAT THE LOBBYISTS ARE OUT THERE ALREADY PROTESTING THAT AND YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY DON'T GO HOME TO THAT. THEY DON'T GO HOME TO THESE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, UM, SO THEY, I'M GONNA BE HONEST, THEY REALLY DON'T CARE. UM, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE UPDATES. ALSO, I THINK WE HAVE AN UPCOMING MEETING, UH, WITH, WITH CSA, UM, SEPTEMBER 9TH, I BELIEVE MR. GALA. I THINK WE AGREED ON THAT ON THE EMAIL. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT, A LOT OF MORE IS GONNA BE DISCUSSED AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY I GET MORE UPDATES FROM, FROM SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT WE HAD, UM, TALKED ABOUT DURING THE FIRST INITIAL MEETING. UM, BUT, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, WE JUST GOTTA KEEP ON ROLLING WITH THE, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE FLOW MAN AND, AND, AND KEEP ON TRYING TO FIND OR GET GOOD, UH, LIVING CONDITIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS DOWN THERE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER GARCIA? OKAY, HEARING NONE. UH, ITEM 11 IS THE AUGUST TOWN MEETING AGENDA AND FUTURE REQUESTS. COUNSEL REMINDER THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A WORK SESSION IN AUGUST. SO WE WILL BE MEETING FOR THE TOWN MEETING AND THEN WE WILL NOT MEET AGAIN UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER TOWN MEETING. UH, WHAT DO WE HAVE ON THE TOWN MEETING AGENDA? I HAVE HERE A NOTE THAT WE AGREED IT WOULD BE VIRTUAL, SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS FOR ALL. ALL CONCERNED FOR ALL WHO CELEBRATE. UH, WE HAVE A 6:30 PM BRIEFING FROM HOME TEAM FIVE PLEASING IN PERSON THAT IS IN PERSON, WELL, THEY'RE GONNA BE IN PERSON. UM, SOME OF US WILL BE IN PERSON, SOME WILL NOT. UM, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN PERSON BY, BY VIRTUE OF THE COUNTY PLANNING BOARD REGULATIONS. SO I THINK THEY WILL BE IN THIS BUILDING. UM, THERE THEY WILL, THERE WILL BE VERY FEW OTHERS HERE, BUT I THINK THEY WOULD WELCOME THE PUBLIC JOINING THEM AND ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN THEM. I MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO JOIN THEM IN PERSON. UM, THERE IS NO EXPECTATION THAT THE TOWN MEETING WILL HAVE AN IN-PERSON COMPONENT. EVERYONE AGREED ON THAT? [01:50:01] WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. UH, SO THAT'S SIX 30 HOME TEAM FIVE. AND THEN FOR SEVEN 30, THE ONLY THING I HAVE ON, ON MY NOTE HERE IS POTENTIALLY A DISCUSSION OF CHOP UP, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT MR. EDDIE POUNDS COMES BACK WITH AND MR. GALLOWAY, UM, COMES BACK WITH. DO WE HAVE OTHER I ITEMS FOR THE TOWN MEETING? NOT YET. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, FOR THE SEPTEMBER TOWN MEETING, I HAVE, UM, THE CANDIDATE PROHIBITION, CHARTER AMENDMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE, I THINK MR. GALLOWAY AND MR. DELOACH, I'VE ASKED THEM TO MOVE OUT TO DO THE NECESSARY NOTIFICATION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THEY'LL HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH THEIR ABACUS AND FIGURE OUT HOW MANY DAYS NEED TO PASS. SO IT MAY NOT, IT MAY NOT BE IN SEPTEMBER. UM, BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, HAVE A FIRST READER OF THE CHARTER AMENDMENT, UH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY, I THINK ABOUT THREE PARAGRAPHS AND COUNSEL YOU ALL HAVE THAT, THE ELECTION SUPERVISORS HAVE THAT. UM, I THINK WE ARE IN GOOD SHAPE. THERE WILL BE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY OBVIOUSLY TO, UH, FIX, CHANGE IT DOWN THE ROAD. BUT WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN, I THINK A RELATIVELY GOOD SITUATION. AND DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR SEPTEMBER? UH, FOR THE WORK SESSION? WE HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS. WE AGREED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE FEE SCHEDULE. UH, WE AGREED TO HAVE A BUDGET PRESENTATION. I THINK, UM, WE, MR. GALWAY, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE AUDIT FOR FY 26? YEAH. UM, G-I-C-M-O-U MAYBE, UM, SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION. SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION. YEAH, WE CORRECT. WE DON'T HAVE AN AUGUST WORK SESSION. UM, WE MAY TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL EVENT GUIDELINES IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER BASED ON I THINK SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM MR. WADE'S EVENT. UM, I WROTE COUNCIL PRIORITIES. I PROBABLY NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STRUCTURE THAT. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION, SIR. YEAH, THE DISCUSSION REGARDING, UH, VOTING ON, UH, THROUGH PATH STREETS, UH, FOR THE HOSPITAL HILL DEVELOPMENT. UM, SOMETHING I KEEP ON DISCUSSING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. UM, ALSO, UM, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS REGARDING, UM, UH, RESIDENTS HAVING A CERTAIN ANIMALS. UM, AND WHAT'S THE STRUCTURE OF THAT AS FAR AS WHAT'S PERMIT YOU MAY NEED FOR THAT IS, UH, AND HOW, HOW TO PROCESS THAT IF WE HAVE THAT ON RECORD. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THIS, THIS TOPIC JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES. , UM, I GUESS I'M NOT READING THE EXCHANGE ENOUGH. YEAH. UM, SO I'M, I'M ALRIGHT. JUST I UNDERSTAND THE HEARTBEAT OF MY RESIDENT WARD ONE, SO THAT'S WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE. SO, UM, BUT YEAH, SO THERE'S CONCERNS REGARDING, UM, POSSIBLE DANGERS WITH INDIVIDUALS HAVING CERTAIN, UM, SO ANIMALS. SO CAN I ASK YOU, I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THE HOSPITAL 'CAUSE I, I ACTUALLY, I REALLY LIKE THIS IDEA AND, AND THE REASON I'M NOT DISCUSSING FURTHER, 'CAUSE I HAVE TALKED WITH, UM, MR. O BARRY ABOUT IT. SO YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF YOU COULD TALK TO MR. O BARRY AND MR. YEAH, SO I'M WAITING FOR ANSWER REGARDING THAT. SO THAT WAS EARLY. YEAH, SO WE COULD DO IT IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER DEPENDING ON WHAT FLOOR THE THREE OF YOU GET. RIGHT. SO, BUT IT MIGHT TAKE SOMETHING FROM THE COUNCIL TO, UM, CHANGE, UM, WHAT'S IN THE, UM, STATUTES, WHATEVER REGARDING DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO THE HOSPITAL. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE FOR THE SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION THAT THAT IS DURING CH WEEK. UM, AND SO IF WE HAVE A REALLY LONG WORK SESSION AGENDA, THAT COULD BE WHAT WE DO. IT'S LIKE MOVING DURING THE WORK SESSION. YEAH. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THAT NIGHT, THAT IT'S UH, IT'S A FESTIVE WEEK. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT BE PUNTING SOME OF THESE IDEAS TO OCTOBER. UM, I DO LIKE THE IDEA COMING OUT OF, OKAY, HOME TEAM FIVE'S GONNA DO THEIR PRESENTATION, UH, IN TWO WEEKS, I THINK TWO OR THREE WEEKS, WHATEVER THAT OCT, UH, AUGUST EIGHT IS, I THINK IT'S TWO WEEKS, UM, COMING OUT OF THAT, I DO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER [01:55:01] ABOUT WHAT WE WANNA, HOW WE WANNA STRUCTURE, UM, THE, THE C HILL CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD DURING THE DETAILED SITE PLAN PROCESS. DO WE WANNA, I, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT, AT TRAFFIC STUDIES AND SEE IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT WE WANNA BEGIN TO COMMISSION. UM, AND I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT LEAST THINK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE AND WHEN WE WANT TO DECIDE IT REGARDING BOTH THE STREETS. I KNOW THAT'S 90% OF THE CONCERN, BUT ANY, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED AS A BODY TO TAKE A, A POSITION ON TO KIND OF INVENTORY THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHEN WE NEED TO DO THAT AND HOW WE WANNA DO THAT. I SUSPECT WE WILL BE LOOKING ON THE STREET ISSUE AT SOME KIND OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY. I NEED TO UNDERSTAND I THINK BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND WHO IT'S BEEN DONE BY, BECAUSE I'M FRANKLY CONFUSED AND, UM, SO I'LL, I NEED TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON THAT. BUT I SUSPECT WHEN WE'RE ALL EDUCATED ON IT, WE'LL REALIZE THAT THERE'S A DEFICIT OF AN INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS JUST ON THE TRAFFIC. IS THAT KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT YOU WERE GONNA SAY? THAT'S VERY MUCH ON THE LINES OF IT. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, SO I WILL WRITE THAT DOWN FOR SEPTEMBER. SOME OF THESE ITEMS ARE GONNA GET BUMPED TO OCTOBER PER YOUR POINT BECAUSE WE, WE CAN'T HAVE A, A SIX HOUR MEETING TWO DAYS BEFORE CHEVROLET DAYS, SO. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, I THINK WE'RE ON TO ITEM 12 AND I THINK I HEARD A MOTION FROM MOTION SECOND. IT WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER GARCI AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR BRENER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? A HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.