* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.
          [Work Session on October 22, 2026.]
          [00:00:10]
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE OCTOBER 22ND, 2026 WORK SESSION FOR THE TOWN OF CH. 
          I AM MAYOR MICHAEL WATSON. 
          WE HAVE WITH US HERE THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND ACTING PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UH, . 
          AND I KNOW THAT MR. UH, GALLOWAY, THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR, WILL BE JOINING SHORTLY AND I WOULD BET THAT MR. DELOACH, THE TOWN ATTORNEY, IS ONLINE, I WILL CALL. 
          THE ROLE FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM WARD ONE. 
          PRESENT. 
          WARD TWO. 
          PRESENT. 
          PRESENT. 
          WARD THREE. 
          PRESENT WARD FOUR. 
          PRESENT. 
          WARD FIVE. 
          PRESENT, PRESENT. 
          AND WARD SIX PRESENT. 
          ALRIGHT, WE WILL CHECK BACK IN ON MR. WADE IN A FEW MOMENTS, BUT SIX OF THE SEVEN ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE PRESENT. 
          WE HAVE A QUORUM SUFFICIENT TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AND THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY, ITEM THREE ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. 
          AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY ADDITION SUBTRACTIONS CORRECTIONS. 
          MADAM CLERK IS SHAKING HER HEAD. 
          THAT'S GOOD NEWS. 
          ANYONE AWARE, ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS AWARE OF ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? IF THERE'S NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. 
          SECOND. 
          THE MOTION WAS MADE BY THE VICE MAYOR AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION PASSES. 
          FIVE ZERO. 
          THE AGENDA IS APPROVED. 
          ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA IS THE BUDGET AND AUDIT UPDATE. 
          SHALL WE SAVE THIS ITEM FOR MR. GALLOWAY? MS. MOCK, IT'S ON WAY OR DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED? MS. MOCK, UM, I'M GLAD YOU, WE LOST YOU. 
          WE HEARD YOU SAY YOU'D BE GLAD TO START AND THEN, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, SO THE THE AUDIT UPDATE, THE AUDITORS ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE JUNE 30TH, 2026 AUDIT REPORT. 
          UM, THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE. 
          WE HAVE NOT SEEN A DRAFT YET. 
          I'M HOPING TO SEE THAT NEXT WEEK. 
          UM, WE'VE TOLD, BEEN TOLD THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE IT AROUND OCTOBER 30TH. 
          AND, UM, SO WE WILL, ONCE WE GET THAT DRAFT, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THEN, UM, PROCEED TO FILE THE NECESSARY REPORTS TO THE STATE. 
          UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE AUDIT'S GOING SMOOTHLY, UM, AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, UH, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE DRAFT. 
          ANY OTHER INFORMATION REGARDING THE 6 30 20 26 UM, BALANCES? OKAY. 
          COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MOCK ABOUT THE AUDIT TIMELINE? I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE CLOSE, WHICH WOULD PUT US ROUGHLY ON TARGET, UH, MR. TANZI, WILL WE GET A COPY OF THAT EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING, LIKE WHENEVER IT'S RELEASED, WILL THAT BE SHARED AUTOMATICALLY WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OR DO WE WAIT TILL OUR NEXT MEETING TO GET THAT UPDATE? UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS USUALLY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL REVIEWS THE, UH, AUDIT REPORT BEFORE IT'S ACCEPTED AND SUBMITTED. 
          SO THAT PROCESS WILL HAVE TO BE DONE EITHER THROUGH MEETING OR THROUGH SOME OTHER MECHANISM. 
          BUT YES, YOU WILL RECEIVE A COPY OF THE AUDIT REPORT BEFORE IT'S SUBMITTED. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, HOW DOES, WELL, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AND SEE, I'M LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET 
          [00:05:01]
FOR FY 26, WHICH WE ADOPTED 16, 17 MONTHS AGO, AND I BELIEVE WE WERE PREDICTING A DEFICIT OF SOMEWHERE IN THE 580,000 RANGE. 
          IS THAT RIGHT, MS. MOCK? UH, YES. 
          UH, LESS THAN, SO A DEFICIT CURRENTLY OF $181,000 AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2026. 
          UH, A COUPLE THINGS HAVE OCCURRED CLOSE TO THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          THE RED LIGHT PROGRAM REALLY CAME IN STRONG IN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS. 
          UH, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF REVENUE THAT WAS CO COLLECTED ON THE RED LIGHT PROGRAM. 
          THERE WAS ALSO A COLLECTION, EXCUSE ME, ON A GRANT THAT WAS OUTSTANDING THAT CAME IN. 
          SO THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS HAVE BROUGHT US OUR FUND BALANCE TO A NEGATIVE OR EXPENDITURES EXCEEDED REVENUE BY $181,000. 
          SO THIS WOULD LEAVE YOU A TOTAL FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF JUNE 30TH, 2026 OF $6,357,000. 
          AND THAT IS BROKEN UP INTO PIECES. 
          UH, PART OF IT IS FOR DEDICATED OR RESTRICTED FOR HIGHWAY USER, WHICH IS 209,000. 
          UH, THERE'S STILL 577,000 LEFT ON THE ELY BUILDING, AND YOU'VE COMMITTED 140,000 TO HELP FUND NEXT YEAR'S FY 27 BUDGET. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE BREAKUP OF THAT 6.6 MILLION 357,000. 
          YOUR UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE WOULD BE 5.4 MILLION AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2026. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME. 
          COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY OUTLOOK FOR FY 26? MAYOR, JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, UH, PUT IN THE CHAT ON HIM ONLINE NOW. 
          OH, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, WADE, THAT'S ALL SEVEN OF US HERE THEN. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MOCK ABOUT FY 26 FOR WHICH WE ARE ABOUT A MONTH AWAY ON THE AUDIT, IT SOUNDS LIKE? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING, UH, MS. MOCK TO SAY YET ABOUT FY 27? I KNOW IT'S BEEN 90 DAYS ONLY. 
          SURE. 
          UH, WE ARE UP TO DATE ON RECONCILIATIONS. 
          WE'VE DONE THE RECONCILIATIONS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. 
          UM, I REVIEWED WITH MR. GALLOWAY TODAY, THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. 
          UM, NO, NO REAL SURPRISES AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          UM, OCTOBER, OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL GET A FAIRLY LARGE, UM, RECEIPT OF REAL ESTATE TAXES COMING IN FROM PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY IN OCTOBER. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK REVENUES ARE COMING IN ACCORDING TO, UH, FAIRLY CLOSE TO WHERE WE'RE BUDGETED. 
          UM, I DON'T, I DID NOT SEE ANY LARGE EXPENDITURES THAT, UH, SEEM TO BE, UH, GOING OUTTA LINE. 
          SO I THINK FOR THE FIRST QUARTER, THINGS LOOK PRETTY GOOD. 
          UM, YOUR CURRENT CASH BALANCE AND ALL THE BANK ACCOUNTS, UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME ARE 4 MILLION. 
          DIANE, WE, WE LOST YOU AT, AT, AT 4 MILLION COMING IN, SO, UH, I THINK 30TH, CAN YOU REPEAT THE, UH, CASH BALANCE? SURE. 
          SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. 
          UM, THE CURRENT BALANCE AND THE VARIOUS ACCOUNTS THAT, UM, THAT THE TOWN HAVE ARE $4,667,000. 
          [00:10:01]
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PART? ALRIGHT, ARE THERE, IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE BUDGET AND AUDIT UPDATE? ALL RIGHT. 
          SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON. 
          THANK YOU MS. MOCK. 
          UH, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE AUDIT SOON. 
          ITEM FIVE IS THE WOODWAY AND FOREST ROAD EROSION UPDATES. 
          UH, DO WE WANT TO GO? WHERE DO WE WANNA START? GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, SO THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CENTER WILL BE PRESENTING A SLIDESHOW TO GIVE UPDATES ON THE STUDY FINDINGS. 
          UM, EMILY CLIFTON IS ONLINE. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          EMILY, ARE YOU ABLE TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN? PLEASE? JUST GIVE HER ONE MOMENT. 
          SHE'S HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH HER COMPUTER, SO SHE'S RESTARTING NOW. 
          EMILY, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND SHARE YOUR SCREEN AND START YOUR PRESENTATION PLEASE. 
          APOLOGIES, I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING MY, UM, POWERPOINT TO SHOW. 
          UM, HOLD ON. 
          I'M GONNA JUST PULL UP THE PDF VERSION OF IT REAL QUICK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          APOLOGIES ABOUT THAT. 
          I'M NOT USED TO BEING ON THE AGENDA EARLY , SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, SO I'M JUST HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON, UM, THE FOREST ROAD OUTFALL PROJECT. 
          UH, PARTICULARLY THE RESULTS OF THE GEOTECHNICAL INVESTIGATION SUMMARY THAT WAS CONDUCTED UNDER ECO, UH, ECOSITE, MIKE KLAR. 
          UM, SO THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE INVESTIGATION WAS JUST TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, UM, OF THE SOIL CONDITIONS IN THE AREA. 
          UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT SETTLEMENT THAT RESIDENTS HAD, UM, NOTICED OVER TIME AND, UM, THERE QUESTIONS ABOUT IF THERE WERE ANY UN UNDERLYING STABILITY ISSUES, UM, AND THEN ALSO UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BETTER WHAT WAS GOING ALONG ON, ON AROUND THE OUTFALL. 
          UM, SO THE RESULTS WERE GENERALLY POSITIVE, UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE, UH, TO TODAY OR THIS EVENING. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO AS A REMINDER, UM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE STORMWATER OUTFALL BEHIND THE CHEVROLET GARDENS SUBDIVISION, UM, AND THE HOMES IN THIS AREA. 
          UM, SO STORMWATER FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, IS, UH, COLLECTED THROUGH THE DRAINAGE AREA, UH, THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM, AND IT DISCHARGES OUT AT THAT OUTFALL. 
          UM, OVER TIME, THE CONCENTRATED FLOW HAS LED TO SOME, UM, A SIGNIFICANT EROSION OF THE BANK AND THE SURROUNDING SURROUNDING SLOPES. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE PRIMARY PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS, UM, HOW TO STABILIZE THE OUTFALL. 
          UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, 
          [00:15:01]
YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS HAVE OBSERVED THE SETTLEMENT. 
          SO THAT WAS PART OF, UM, WHAT WAS EVALUATED BY THE GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEERS, UM, AS PART OF THIS INVESTIGATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THE INVESTIGATION WAS CONDUCTED IN JULY, UM, BY A COMPANY CALLED GEOTECH ENGINEERS. 
          UH, THEY TOOK FOUR SOIL BORINGS, UM, AT LOCATIONS AROUND, UH, THE AFFECTED PROPERTIES AND, UM, UH, AND THE EXISTING STORMWATER OUTFALL. 
          AND SO IT WAS JUST REALLY TO SEE WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THE SURFACES, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THE SOILS ARE STABLE, UM, AND WHETHER THERE ARE ANY CONDITIONS THAT MIGHT, UH, AFFECT, UH, THE UPCOMING PROJECT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, WHAT THE SOIL POINTS RE REVEALED WAS THAT, UM, UH, THERE'S A LABOR WHEN THE, WHEN THAT AREA WAS DEVELOPED, UM, A LAYER OF FILL MATERIAL IS JUST BASICALLY PUT ON TOP OF SOME SOFTER SOILS, UM, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH MORE SWAMPY CONDITIONS. 
          SO, UM, UH, THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO, TO NOTE BECAUSE THAT KIND OF EXPLAINED SOME OF THE SETTLING THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN, UM, SEEING IN THEIR YARDS AND DRIVEWAYS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO THREE KEY FINDINGS FROM, UM, THE INVESTIGATION. 
          SO, FIRST AGAIN, IS THAT THE SETTLEMENT THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN OBSERVING, UM, IT APPEARS TO BE RELATED TO THE UNDERLYING SOILS, UH, CONDITION. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE SOFT SOILS AND THEN FILL MATERIAL WAS PUT ON TOP OF THAT, SO YOU'RE SEEING, UM, THAT SETTLE OVER TIME. 
          UM, AND THAT'S, UH, IT'S JUST COMPRESSING OVER THE WEIGHT, BASICALLY, OF THOSE THAT FILL SOIL THAT WAS PUT ON TOP OF IT. 
          UM, SO IMPORTANTLY FROM THAT, THE INVESTIGATION DID NOT IDENTIFY SIGNIFICANCE, STRUCTURAL DISTRESS, UM, IN THE HOMES. 
          SO WHILE IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOTICEABLE AND, UH, THERE'S A VALID REASON WHY RESIDENTS HAVE, UH, NOTED THAT HAPPENING IN THE YARDS AND DRIVEWAYS, THE FINDINGS ITSELF DIDN'T SUGGEST THAT THERE'S SOME BROADER PROBLEM WITH STABILITY, UM, OF THE HOUSES. 
          SO THAT'S GOOD. 
          UM, SECOND, THE ENGINEER EVALUATED SLOPES BEHIND THE HOMES, UM, PARTICULARLY NEAR, UH, 64 55 FOREST ROAD. 
          UH, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOME EVIDENCE OF LOCALIZED EROSION. 
          UM, AGAIN, THE SLOPE APPEARS TO BE GENERALLY STABLE UNDER THE EXISTING IGNITIONS, THERE WAS NO, UM, OBSERVATION OF ANY WARNING SIGNS, UM, THAT WOULD INDICATE LIKE THERE IS A LARGER SLOPE FAILURE GOING ON. 
          UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, IT WAS TO LOOK AT THE VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE STORMWATER OUTFALL. 
          UM, AND IT, THE STUDY DID CONFIRM, YES, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT EROSION AROUND THE EXISTING STORMWATER OUTFALL, AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE ALL OBSERVED, UM, IN THE FIELD AND REINFORCES THE NEED FOR THE PROJECT. 
          UM, THE REPORT RECOMMENDS, UH, THAT APPROPRIATE EROSION PROTECTION AND STABILIZATION MEASURES BE PUT IN PLACE AS PART OF THE OUTFALL IMPROVEMENT, UM, PROJECT, WHICH IT WILL. 
          UM, SO I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE IS, UM, THERE WERE NO GEOTECHNICAL OBSTACLES, UM, OBSERVED THROUGH THE GEOTECHNICAL RE REPORT, UM, AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY FOUND IS HELPFUL FOR US WHEN WE BEGAN THE DESIGN PROCESS. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST A QUICK REMINDER. 
          SO, UM, THE, THE, THE PROJECT ITSELF, UM, WE'RE IN PHASE ONE, THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, UH, SO BASICALLY YOU'VE GOT THE APPROPRIATED FUNDING AND THE TOWN'S GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE FUNDS AWARDED. 
          UM, AND, UH, DURING THIS PHASE, WE'LL ALSO, WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH TOWN TO COORDINATE WITH SHA AND GET SOME OF THESE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS, UM, UH, STARTED SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS ARE GONNA BE. 
          UM, FOR THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, PART OF THIS, UM, AREA, YOU KNOW, IT IMPACTS SHA, UM, IS SO IT, IT AREA. 
          SO WE, WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT AND MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT THEY, UH, NEED FOR US TO DO. 
          UM, AFTER THAT, WE'LL, THIS WILL MOVE TOWARDS FINAL DESIGN AND PERMITTING AND THEN CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, OUR IMMEDIATE PRIORITIES GOING TO COMPLETE THE GRANT COORDINATION, UM, MEET WITH SHA AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, UM, AND TO REFINE, UM, UH, THE RESTORATION APPROACH WE'LL 
          [00:20:01]
TAKE, UM, FOR THE DESIGN PLANS. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT PERMITS ARE REQUIRED. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY THE GEOTECHNICAL INFORMATION IS HELPING US MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD, UM, GAVE US A LOT OF USEFUL INFORMATION, UM, AND NOW WE CAN JUST START FOCUSING ON DEVELOPING, UH, SOLUTIONS. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS IT FOR ME AND HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T RUN THROUGH THAT TOO FAST. 
          BUT, UH, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, UM, AND AGAIN, I AM NOT, WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT DID THE REPORT AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I NEED TO SAY THAT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I READ WITH FREQUENCY. 
          SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER FRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU, UM, JUST FOR SOME CLARIFICATION, AND I'M ALSO NOT AN ENGINEER, UM, SO QUESTIONS MAY BE A LITTLE SILLY, BUT JUST SO THAT I COULD BETTER EXPLAIN IT TO MY RESIDENTS. 
          UM, SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT IT WAS JUST LIKE SOFT SOIL AND THEN THEY JUST PUT FILL ON TOP AND THEN THEY BUILT HOUSES ON THAT BASICALLY. 
          UM, I, I, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, AREAS IN CH THAT WERE WET BEFORE, RIGHT? SO WHEN THE, WHEN THE AREA WAS DEVELOPED, UM, JUST, YEAH, YOU'VE GOT THAT, THAT SOFTER SOIL. 
          SO, UM, UH, THE DEVELOPER CAME IN, PUT FILL ON THERE. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S JUST THE SETTLING YOU'RE SEEING OVER TIME. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE OBSERVING THAT WITH THE HOUSES BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD'VE DUG DEEPER RIGHT? FOR THAT. 
          SO THEY'RE GOING DEEPER IN, IN, IN THE LAYER. 
          UM, BUT WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THAT IS THE SETTLING IN THE YARDS, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THE DRIVEWAYS, UM, BUT THAT, UH, IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF A, A LARGER, UH, PROBLEM WITH THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE HOUSES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN I'M SEEING THE DRIVEWAY, UM, AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE, LIKE ABOUT FIVE INCHES OF A HEIGHT DIFFERENCE, IT'S NOT MM-HMM. 
          BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS ACTUALLY SETTLING OR MOVING, IT'S JUST AT THE DRIVEWAY IS DROPPING? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE, LIKE BACKYARDS, BECAUSE, UH, I'M THINKING OF ONE NEIGHBOR IN PARTICULAR, THEIR BACKYARD HAS SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED IN SIZE MM-HMM . 
          UM, THAT'S ALSO DUE TO THE SAME THING, OR THAT'S JUST BE 'CAUSE OF THE WATER THAT'S ERODED, LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING BACK THERE AND HOW DO WE KEEP IT FROM CONTINUING SO THAT THEY CAN STILL MAINTAIN SOME USE OF THEIR BACKYARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT WITH THIS, UM, NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO THE DESIGN PHASE AND, UM, WHAT SORT OF, UH, STABILIZATION MIGHT NEED TO BE, UH, MIGHT NEED TO OCCUR. 
          UM, UH, BUT THE, THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT DID SAY LIKE THE, THERE'S THAT EVIDENCE OF LOCALIZED EROSION. 
          UM, BUT WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IS THEY DON'T SEE A SLOPE FAILURE, BUT, SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T LOOK AT THAT EROSION AND, AND, UM, WORK THAT INTO WHATEVER'S BEING DONE WITHOUT OUTFALL BACK THERE. 
          UM, IT, THEY WERE JUST MORE ENSURING THAT YOU WEREN'T LOOKING AT LIKE A, UH, A CRITICAL FAILURE AT THE SITE, UM, AT THE SLOPE. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK SO. 
          UM, AND I GUESS THIS, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, I KNOW, KNOW THAT THERE WERE THE CERTAIN SPOTS THAT THERE WERE THE, WHERE THEY HAD THE BORINGS TO GET THE, THE NUMBERS MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND WHERE I THINK YOU SAID 6 4 5 5 HAD THE LOCALIZED EROSION MM-HMM . 
          AREA WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS PROJECT, WHILE THERE MIGHT BE CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE MIGHT BE SEEING MORE OF IT, WE WILL STILL BE TRYING TO STABILIZE THE WHOLE AREA. 
          WHEN YOU'RE, SAY THAT AGAIN? SO FROM LIKE, FROM 6 4, 5, 5 ALL THE WAY TO, I, I'M JUST THINKING ALONG THE WHOLE BACKSIDE OF WHERE THOSE HOMES ARE, UM, SINCE THE WATER GOES THROUGH THAT WHOLE AREA. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THE, THE, THE BORING SOIL BORINGS THAT THEY DID RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT WAS JUST TO EVALUATE, UM, THE SOILS THEMSELVES AND, AND GET A, A UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SO, UM, ANY OF THOSE, AND ACTUALLY I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR US TO HAVE JUST A CONVERSATION WITH YOU TOO, SO WE CAN GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU IN THAT AREA NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO THE DESIGN PHASE. 
          BUT YEAH, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THAT ONE AREA. 
          THOSE ARE REPRESENTATIVE, UM, GEOTECHNICAL BORINGS THAT THEY TOOK, UM, FOR, FOR THE AREAS, UM, IN 
          [00:25:01]
THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE REQUESTED EARLIER TOO. 
          UM, AS SOON AS I HEARD THAT THE REPORT WAS FINISHED, UH, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS, UM, WHERE WE SPEAK SPECIFICALLY WITH THE RESIDENTS ALONG THAT AREA SO THAT THEY CAN GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ALSO WHAT TO EXPECT. 
          UM, I THINK SOME, WELL, WE GAVE NOTICES AND STUFF, THEY, SOME OF THEM WERE STILL ALARMED, UM, TO KIND OF SEE THE ACTIVITY AND NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ACTIVITY WAS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO FOR NEXT STEPS, I KNOW IT SAID THAT IT'S, UM, THE AGENCY COORDINATION. 
          IS THAT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE? YES. 
          SO RIGHT, THERE'S TWO THINGS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 
          ONE IS GETTING THE GRANT THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO LIKE THE FUNDING STARTS, UM, IT'S, UH, OFFICIALLY AWARDED AND THAT, UH, FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. 
          UM, AND, UH, THE SECOND PART IS INITIATING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH SHA AND ACTUALLY THE COUNTY AS WELL, JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE. 
          UM, BUT ABSOLUTELY, UH, HAVING A CONVERSATION, UM, AND, AND GETTING THAT UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON OR AT LEAST, UM, FROM A REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, UM, THING TO DO TOO. 
          JUST SO WE HAVE A BROAD UNDERSTANDING, UM, OF, UH, THE CONCERNS, BECAUSE I KNOW, UM, RIGHT. 
          UH, I THINK MOSTLY ANY CONVERSATIONS HAVE JUST HAPPENED WITH THOSE RESIDENTS WHERE THE SOIL VARIANTS WERE GONNA TAKE PLACE. 
          UM, AND I SHOULD SAY COUNCILMAN, UH, FOR, FOR THE, UM, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WILL EXPERIENCE JUST A LITTLE, SOME MORE SETTLING. 
          IT'S SAID IN THE REPORT THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME ISOLATED INCIDENCE, UH, OF ADDITIONAL SETTLING, UM, ONE TO TWO INCHES, UM, BUT IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE WIDESPREAD. 
          UM, YEAH, THAT MOST OF THE SETTLING OCCURRED FOR HOW LONG AFTER LIKE A HOME IS BUILT, CAN YOU EXPECT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF SETTLING CONTINUE? I DON'T THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          UM, UH, JUST BASED ON WHAT THEY SAID IN THE REPORT, THE HOUSE HAS BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH THAT YOU SHOULD EXPECT THAT MOST OF THE SETTLING HAS, UM, COMPLETED LIKE THAT. 
          THERE SHOULD BE MORE, BUT THEY DID SAY IN THERE THAT THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE IS SOME, BE SOME ADDITIONAL ISOLATED SETTLEMENT. 
          AGAIN, NOT AT THE EXTREME THAT YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR. 
          UM, BUT, UH, THEY COULDN'T RULE OUT THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY MORE SETTLING IN THE AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          UM, THEN I GUESS I'LL WORK WITH STAFF TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A TIME WHERE WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          UM, WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU SPECIFICALLY. 
          NO, THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY, ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO ASK A QUESTION AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE TURN TO THE PUBLIC? OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S OPEN IT UP THEN TO PUBLIC, TO RESIDENT INPUT. 
          UH, IF YOU'RE ONLINE, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION. 
          IF YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE COME UP TO THE TABLE AND TURN THE MICROPHONE ON GREEN AND PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME, YOUR WARD, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE GREEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I AM GENEVA, WEAR RICE, AND MY HUSBAND FRANK RICE IS HERE. 
          WE LIVE ON WOODWAY. 
          HEY, AMY, AT 28 10, AND WE ARE HERE BECAUSE OF THIS EROSION ISSUE. 
          SO GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR, NICE TO BE HERE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ALREADY ON THIS ISSUE. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT. 
          I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME, WHO'S REPORTING, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 
          I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE, WE ARE THE FIRST HOMEOWNERS FOR THIS HOUSE ON 28 10. 
          WE'VE BEEN, WE MOVED IN IN JULY OF 1993, AND SO OUR BACKYARD HAS ERODED AND, UM, WE ARE DOWNHILL FROM HILLSIDE AND WE ARE ON THE SIDE THAT'S IN THE VALLEY PART. 
          AND SO WE ARE GETTING SOIL EROSION. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. 
          WE'VE HAD TO PUT, UM, UNDERGROUND TRENCHING AROUND THE HOUSE BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING FLOODED. 
          AND THAT SIDE DOES FLOOD IN THE BASEMENTS IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL. 
          WE'VE HAD TO PUT IN AN INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH SUMP PUMP BECAUSE THE SUMP PUMP RUNS ALL THE TIME, AND THE REGULAR ONES WERE BURNING OUT. 
          SO WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP WATER OUT OF OUR HOUSE. 
          THE FRONT STAIRS ARE SINKING ALL THE TIME. 
          WE REPLACED THEM TWICE. 
          WE NEED TO DO IT AGAIN. 
          SO WE ARE GETTING THAT NOW. 
          WE 
          [00:30:01]
ARE AT 28 10 WOODWAY. 
          IF YOU DRIVE BY, YOU WILL SEE THIS LOVELY RED TAPE THAT PUBLIC WORKS WRAPPED AROUND THE TREE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING RUNOFF ONTO THE SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT RUNNING INTO THE STREET, AND IT'S CREATING ALGAE AND NOBODY CAN WALK THERE. 
          AND THE, UH, THIS HAPPENED IN THE SUMMER, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S CORDING OFF BECAUSE IT GOT SLIPPERY AND PEOPLE COULD FALL. 
          NOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WE PUT IN UNDERGROUND TUBING. 
          THE SIDEWALK WAS REPAIRED WHEN YOU ALL REPAIRED THE SIDEWALK ON THERE. 
          AND SO WE THINK WHEN THEY DID THE REPAIR, THE TUBING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE IT OUT TO THE STREET ISN'T WORKING. 
          SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CLOGGED AND IT NEEDS CLEANING OUT, OR IS IT JUST TOO MUCH WATER, BUT IT'S STOPPING RIGHT THERE AT THE BASE OF OUR YARD NOT GOING OVER THE SIDEWALK. 
          AND SO WE HAVE A LITTLE SWAMP THAT HAS, UM, BEAUTIFUL BUMBLEBEES AND, AND, UH, NOT SO BEAUTIFUL MOSQUITOES AND LOTS OF ALGAE. 
          SO I, I JUST WANT, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE YOU ALL TO DO THIS, BUT IT REALLY IS A PUBLIC HAZARD TO HAVE THAT THERE. 
          AND IT'S ON THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS NOT OURS. 
          THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, IS THERE ANYTHING BEING CONSIDERED ABOUT WHAT CAN PROPERTY OWNERS DO TO HELP WITH THIS EROSION? AND I LIVE BEHIND AMY CRY AND, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WE'RE GETTING RUNOFF FROM THEIR PROPERTY. 
          IS THERE SOME SORT OF, I DON'T KNOW, RECEPTACLE THAT COULD CATCH SOME OF THAT TO KEEP IT OUT OF OUR YARD, TO TAKE IT RIGHT TO THE DRAIN AND WE'RE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SEWER? HAD NO IDEA WHEN I PICKED THAT LOT THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE AN ISSUE. 
          BUT ALL THE WATER RUNS TO OUR HOUSE. 
          AND SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, THAT'S ONE THING. 
          WHAT CAN HOMEOWNERS DO? IS THERE GONNA BE ANY, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          IS THERE ANY GONNA BE ANY HELP FOR THE BUDGETING OF THIS, BECAUSE IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO KEEP FIGHTING THE EROSION, AND WE'D LOVE TO BE HERE FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          YES. 
          UH, WE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, UH, BACK DIRECTLY IN TOUCH WITH YOU. 
          I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER FRY'S, UH, IN TOUCH WITH YOU, BUT, UM, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WOODWAY NOW? YEAH, WE HAVEN'T STARTED WITH WOODWAY. 
          WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WOODWAY NOW. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          ? YES. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT OR ADDRESS THE PRESENTATION FROM LA LIDC? OKAY. 
          UH, OH. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE YOU ABLE TO UNMUTE? YES. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, GO AHEAD. 
          YOUR NAME, YOUR WARD, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          I, MY NAME IS YVONNE HOOD AND, UM, I AM WITH WARD SIX, AND I HAD, UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND TESTIFIED AT ONE OF THE HEARINGS IN REGARDS TO THE EROSION. 
          AND WHEN I SPOKE, I THINK I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE ADDRESSES THAT WERE USED. 
          I AM RIGHT BESIDE 6 4, 5 5. 
          SO WHEN YOU MENTIONED HOUSES THAT WERE USED, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED AS TO WHAT HOUSE, HOW THE HOUSES WERE PICKED IN REGARDS TO THE EROSION. 
          IF IT'S OCCURRING AT ONE HOUSE AND NOT HAPPENING AT THE HOUSE BESIDE IT, I'M NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING THAT. 
          UM, I'M NOT, UM, AN ENGINEER BY NO STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING. 
          UM, AND AS FAR AS LOOKING IN THE BACK OF MY YARD, THE YARD IS ON A SLOPE. 
          UM, SO I WOULDN'T KNOW IF IT'S EROSION OR THE HOUSE WAS JUST, IT'S JUST SLOPED IN THE BACK. 
          I'M RIGHT BEHIND 50. 
          UH, SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FOR THE RESIDENT. 
          AND WITHOUT TALKING TO ACTUAL ENGINEERS OR HAVING THEM TO COME AND LOOK IN YOUR BACKYARD, BECAUSE THE TESTING OF SOIL, YOU TEST, UM, ONE HOUSE, BUT THEN THERE'S, UM, HOUSES RIGHT BESIDE IT. 
          UM, THE, MY NEIGHBOR, I'VE NOTICED THAT THEIR DRIVEWAY IS ON A, A SLOPE. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, YEAH, KIND OF ON A SLOPE. 
          AND, AND BY ME BEING RIGHT BESIDE IT, I HAD MY DRIVEWAY DONE. 
          SO THIS IS PRIOR TO ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          AND I WOULD NOT KNOW ONCE I HAD MY DRIVEWAY DONE, UH, REPAVED WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS SOME SLOPING OR NOT. 
          SO I, I GUESS I'M MORE CONCERNED A AS TO HOW THE HOMES WERE PICKED AND SO WAS TESTED IN HOMES THAT WERE SKIPPED, UM, WITHOUT 
          [00:35:01]
BEING TESTED. 
          AND I DO HAVE A, A KIND OF LIKE A SUNK HOLE IN MY BACKYARD, AND I'VE USED, UM, GRAVEL AND SAND AND STUFF TO FILL THE HOLE BACK THERE. 
          SO NOT SURE WHAT IT IS. 
          I'VE HAD A PAVEMENT IN MY BACK THAT HAD COLLAPSED AND I'VE HAD THAT FIXED. 
          SO THINGS ARE CARRYING, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AS TO HOW CERTAIN HOMES ARE AFFECTED AND OTHERS ARE NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          EMILY, ARE YOU ABLE, AND AGAIN, I KNOW WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE ENGINEER THAT ACTUALLY DRILLED THE HOLES OR SELECTED THE HOLES, BUT ARE YOU ABLE TO SAY ANY MORE ABOUT THE SELECTION OF THE SITES? YES. 
          SO THE, THE, THE AREAS THAT WERE SELECTED, AGAIN, THE, THESE WERE REPRESENTATIVE, UM, UH, SOIL WARNING. 
          SO THEY, FOR EACH ONE OF THESE, THREE OF THEM, THEY WENT DOWN 15 FEET. 
          THE OTHER ONE, THEY WENT DOWN 20 FEET. 
          THIS IS PRETTY, UM, STANDARD WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE SORTS OF ANALYSIS THAT YOU JUST, YOU PICK THREE SPOTS. 
          SO, UM, I'M SORRY, YOU, YOU PICK MULTIPLE REPRESENTATIVE SPOTS? UM, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT THE ONE THAT SELECTED THEM. 
          UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED WITH MIKE CLARK AND ECOSITE FOR YEARS. 
          UM, HE'S, HE'S A REALLY GOOD ENGINEER. 
          UM, HE DEALS WITH THESE TYPES OF, UM, PROJECTS QUITE A BIT. 
          SO, UH, I, I TRUST HIS JUDGMENT AND I'LL JUST HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT THE SELECTION PROCESS WAS IN PARTICULAR. 
          SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO FORWARD THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, I JUST WANNA GO BACK AND CHECK, UM, BEFORE I GIVE YOU ANY MORE THAN JUST THE STANDARD. 
          THESE WERE REPRESENTATIVE AREAS, UM, AND ONE PARTICULAR WAS LOOKING AT THE OUTFALL, BUT THE OTHERS WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKING SURE THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THIS, UH, ALL RELATED TO THE STORMWATER, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR IS SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON? SO WHAT THEY FOUND OUT WAS, YES, THE, SOMETHING ELSE WAS JUST THE WAY THE AREA WAS DEVELOPED ORIGINALLY, UM, WITH THE SOCK SOILS, UM, UNDERNEATH THE FILL. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, ARE WE MOVING ON THEN, MS. PROM, TO DISCUSS WOODWAY IN PARTICULAR? WE CAN, YES. 
          OKAY, LET'S DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO JUST BRIEFLY TO ADDRESS MS. RICE'S CONCERN, I DID SEND SOME INFORMATION OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER FRY EARLIER TODAY, JUST GIVING AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR ASSESSMENT OF THE LOCATION. 
          UM, BUT THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT I CAN SHARE. 
          UM, I BELIEVE MS. RICE HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING MR. HUNTER, AND WE HAVE BEEN TO YOUR SITE SEVERAL TIMES TO LOOK INTO THE ISSUE WITH LIDC. 
          IN FACT, THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE SEND THE SAMPLE SITES OUT FOR TESTING TO SEE IF WE CAN TRY AND FIND THE SOURCE OF THE WATER. 
          SO WE SENT THOSE OUT ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK, AND WE'RE WAITING FOR RESULTS. 
          THIS SITE IS ALSO A PART OF THE SCOPE FOR THE FEMA MDM PROJECT. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO BE FURTHER INVESTIGATED REGARDLESS OF WHAT RESULTS WE GET FROM THE FLUORIDE TESTING THAT WE SENT OUT BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR LARGER SCOPE, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE CATCHMENT AREAS THAT'S BEEN UNDER INVESTIGATION AND PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED BY FEMA. 
          SO WE WE'RE GONNA KNOW MORE INFORMATION NO MATTER WHAT, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET TO A QUICKER SOLUTION COMPARED TO WHAT WE'LL GET BACK FROM CIS AND THEIR ENGINEERING PARTNERS THAT THEY'VE CONTRACTED FOR THIS JOB. 
          THEY DID START THEIR WORK, WHICH MR. GALLOWAY WILL GET INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT LATER IN HIS REPORT. 
          SO I CAN ASK THEM IF THEY WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING SOME ATTENTION INTO THIS AREA ON THE FRONT END OF THEIR RESEARCH. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FRY. 
          SO WITH THE FLUORIDE TESTING, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE POSSIBLE OPTIONS OF WHAT THOSE TEST RESULTS WILL PROVIDE US? SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WITH THE FLUORIDE TESTING IS CERTAIN TYPES OF WATER ARE GONNA HAVE CERTAIN CHEMICALS IN THEM. 
          SO REALLY THIS WILL RULE OUT CERTAIN UTILITY COMPANIES AND GIVE US MORE DIRECTION ON WHERE THE WATER POTENTIALLY COULD BE COMING FROM. 
          IS IT A STORM DRAIN, IS IT A UTILITY COMPANY, IS IT ANOTHER SOURCE? SO WE CAN NARROW DOWN WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK FOR AND WHO WE NEED TO GO TO TO TRY AND RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. 
          ONCE WE 
          [00:40:01]
HAVE THOSE RESULTS BACK, WERE WE ABLE TO SNAKE THAT, UM, PIPE FOR NOW WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE SOIL TESTING. 
          WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET SOMEONE TO SNAKE IT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE RESULTS OF THOSE ARE. 
          BUT A PART OF THE STANTEC, UH, SCOPE IS SNAKING AND CLEANING OUT. 
          SO THAT WILL ALSO BE IN QUOVO. 
          HOW LONG, REGARDLESS THIS, HOW LONG WOULD WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT? BECAUSE IT'S JUST SITTING WATER AND IT'S BEEN SITTING FOR MORE THAN ONCE. 
          I CAN FOLLOW UP AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON IT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE BECAUSE THEY JUST STARTED AND WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE MEETING YET. 
          IS THERE A REASON WHY WE CAN'T SNAKE IT NOW? LIKE I'M JUST CUR I'M JUST LIKE HONESTLY WONDERING BECAUSE I, I THOUGHT THAT SINCE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW, THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PIPE WAS STRUCTURALLY SOUND, BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD TAKE THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION AS WELL. 
          LIKE WHERE THE WATER'S COMING FROM IS AN ISSUE, BUT THE FACT IS THE WATER'S THERE. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE OTHER ISSUES HAPPENING ALL ALONG THAT STREET, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW IF IT IS OR ISN'T CONNECTED. 
          UM, WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON THE SNEAKING. 
          YEAH, I'LL FOLLOW UP AND TO CHECK INTO IT. 
          AND I CAN LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SNEAKING. 
          JUST, I WAS NOT AT THE INITIAL MEETING FOR THIS ITEM WHERE WE MET WITH THE ENGINEERS ON SITE. 
          SO ALL OF MY INFORMATION IS BASED ON THE FOLLOW UP REPORTS, BUT I'LL LOOK INTO IT AND SEE. 
          AND WHEN WAS THAT MEETING THAT YOU GUYS HAD? YEAH, NOT TOO LONG AGO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AS IT GETS COLDER, IF WE'D END UP WAITING AND JUST LETTING THE WATER SIT THERE, WHAT ARE WE PLANNING TO DO? WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP IT BLOCKED OFF WITH TAPE SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK IN THE ROAD. 
          LIKE IT'S, IT'S SUCH A PRESSING ISSUE, I THOUGHT. 
          AND I, I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ALL THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY PRESSING ISSUE. 
          UM, I'M SURPRISED THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS TAKEN THIS LONG TO COME HERE TO JUST SAY THAT WE DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS FOR THE SNAKING. 
          UM, WE HAD THAT AREA, UH, MISS UTILITY COME IN MARKET RIGHT AWAY WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD BRING ALL THE UTILITY COMPANIES OUT TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING ALONG THE STREET. 
          NOT JUST THIS AREA, BUT THE WHOLE STREET BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING SINKING ALL OVER THAT STREET. 
          UM, AND I WANNA SAY THIS WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF MOSQUITOES OUT. 
          WE ARE NOW AT ALMOST NOVEMBER. 
          THAT SITE BEING COUNSEL ON WAS ON PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          THE CHIEF WAS JUST SAYING THE SITE MEETING WAS ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          INTERPRET ANYTHING FURTHER. 
          ST UH, FROM FROM STAFF. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU CAN GIVE US TWO WEEKS TO PROVIDE AN EXTENSIVE I DON'T THINK SHE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          IF YOU CAN GIVE US TWO WEEKS TO PROVIDE AN EXTENSIVE UPDATE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 
          I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN THE MEANTIME. 
          WE'RE JUST GONNA LEAVE IT ROPED OFF STILL AND JUST KIND OF LET THE WATER SIT THERE AND CONTINUE AS WE START TO CONTINUE TO GET ALL THIS RAIN AND STUFF LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A PRESSING ISSUE. 
          AS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN PUT MATERIAL TO SOAK UP THE CURRENT WATER, ESPECIALLY IN THE SIDEWALK AREAS. 
          AND THAT WAY AT, AT THE VERY LEAST, THE POOLING WATER WILL BE HANDLED AND IT WON'T CAUSE SO MUCH OF A HAZARD AS FAR AS FREEZING AND ICING IS CONCERNED WITH THE TEMPERATURES DROPPING PRETTY RAPIDLY. 
          AND WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE FROM THERE. 
          AND I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, I KNOW THAT BEFORE, BEFORE, UH, I THINK LUIS SAID, AND MR. WOMEN WHEN WE FIRST WENT THERE MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THE DIPS IN THE ROAD, SOME OF THEM ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AT NIGHT, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM. 
          SO LIKE IT CAUSES SOME, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GONNA TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO MAKE IT AT LEAST A LITTLE MORE VISIBLE OR THEY WERE GONNA ALSO JUST LIKE PAINT LIKE A WHITE CIRCLE AROUND EACH OF THE AREAS SO THAT FOLKS CAN KIND OF BE ABLE TO SEE THAT, UM, THAT WAS ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. 
          [00:45:01]
I DON'T KNOW. 
          I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT AND I WERE YOU ALL AWARE OF THAT? I KNEW ABOUT WHITE CIRCLES, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF THE CONVERSATION AS FAR AS PLACING IT AT EACH YEAH. 
          PLACE WHERE THE SINK WAS CONCERNED WAS TO MARK ALL OF THOSE. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          AND THEN ALSO THE, THE MEETING WITH ALL OF THE UTILITY COMPANIES IN REGARDS TO FIGURING OUT THE DIPS 29. 
          'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO HAS OWNERSHIP OVER WHICH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY SNAKING REQUIRES LABOR, BUT IS THERE A REASON WE CAN'T JUST DO IT? IS THERE SOME HESITANCE? IS IT, IS IT GONNA MESS UP THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF GOING THROUGH? OBVIOUSLY IT, IT COSTS SOMETHING TO, TO SNAKE IT, BUT WHY ISN'T THAT SOMETHING? I DON'T THINK WE COULD JUST DO, I DON'T THINK, UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE PROPER FOR US JUST TO GO THERE AND SNAKE WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING THE VIDEO TO, TO UNDERSTAND IF IT'S WORTH SNAKING IT BECAUSE THIS COULD BE MULTIPLE ISSUES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, WE COULD GO THERE AND SNAKE IT, IT TO BE, UH, A WASTE OF OUR TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          OR WE COULD GO THERE AND SNAKE AND MESS UP THE PIPES DEPENDING UPON WHAT TYPE OF PIPE IS THERE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, IT'S VERY OLD INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UM, YES, I, IF YOU GIVE US TWO WEEKS, UM, WE'LL COME UP WITH, UM, AN EXTENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS AND WE'LL CREATE A SHORT TERM PLAN FOR THIS. 
          WE'RE SURE, SORRY THAT WE FELL SHORT ON THIS MATTER. 
          UM, BUT JUST GIVE US TIME TO GO AHEAD AND MITIGATE THIS IF WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ARE GIVEN SOME SORT OF NOTES. 
          I MEAN I CAN SEND OUT, YOU KNOW, MY NEWSLETTER AND THAT PROVIDES SOMEWHAT OF AN UPDATE, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HIT EVERY SINGLE HOME, UM, IN THE WAY THAT I WOULD LIKE IT TO. 
          BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL, JUST SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT TO EXPECT AND WHAT'S TO COME. 
          UM, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT  YES. 
          AND UM, THE HOPE WAS TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE, UM, AREAS WHERE IT'S SINKING AND IT'S 2,900. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT'S ALONG THE WHOLE BLOCK. 
          UM, AND SOME SINKS ARE DEEPER THAN OTHERS. 
          IT'S CONCERNING 'CAUSE THEY WEREN'T THERE. 
          I I FEEL LIKE THEY, THEY WEREN'T THAT NOTICEABLE. 
          MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, AND I DON'T THINK WSSC HAS BEEN THERE, LIKE IN THE WAY THAT I WOULD LOOK AT IT AND BE LIKE, OH THIS IS A-W-S-S-C ISSUE AND I HOPE IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOFT SOIL AND FILL AND SO THEN THE PAVEMENT'S STARTING TO CRUMBLE 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT IDEAL EITHER. 
          UM, BUT YEAH. 
          AND THEN THE SOONER WE CAN HAVE THAT PLAN, UM, AND GET THAT OUT, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I THINK, UM, LET ME JUST ASK WHAT, SO WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP SPECIFICALLY ON THE GRANT COORDINATION? MS. PROM? IS THAT YOU? YES, CURRENTLY WE ARE IN THE REVIEW PROCESS WITH DGS. 
          THE INTAKE PAPERWORK HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, SO ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS THEY HAVE, THEY'LL SEND US DIRECTLY, WE'LL ADDRESS AND THEN THEY WILL SEND US OVER A DOCUMENT TO SIGN AND GO INTO THEIR DPW AND T APPROVAL PROCESS ABOUT 30 TO 90 DAYS. 
          BUT IT SHOULDN'T STOP ANY OF THE WORK THAT WE DO BECAUSE THIS IS FUNDING THAT WE CAN PAY AND THEY'LL REIMBURSE FOR AFTER THE FACT. 
          YES, IT'S REIMBURSABLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I'M REMEMBERING THIS NOW. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MS. PROM FOR MANAGING THE GRANT ASPECT, WHICH IS COMPLICATED ON A GOOD DAY. 
          UH, OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX THEN. 
          TOWN FEE SCHEDULE, UH, COUNSEL, THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WE, I DON'T WANNA SAY, I DON'T WANNA SAY DEFERRED, BUT, UM, THAT WE ADDED AFTER WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME CONSTERNATION, UH, INCLUDING FOR ME ABOUT THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE ENDED UP ADOPTING. 
          UM, SO THE FEE SCHEDULE WAS THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR AS IT IS. 
          IT'S PUBLISHED IN THE BUDGET, IT'S PUBLISHED IN THE PACKET. 
          UH, BUT I THINK, UH, I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT, UH, ANY ITEMS ON THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT SEEM TOO HIGH, TOO LOW, ARE IMPRACTICAL, ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY IMPRACTICAL 
          [00:50:01]
FROM MR. GALLOWAY'S TEAM, ET CETERA. 
          SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT THE OUTSET BEFORE WE TURN TO THE PUBLIC? MR. TANZI? UM, SO FIRST I'M GONNA START FROM THE BACK. 
          UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF PUBLIC WORKS IT SAYS EV CHARGING STATION MEMBERSHIP. 
          I THINK THE DISCUSSION WE HAD WHEN WE, UH, POSTED THIS WAS THAT DOING THAT WOULD REQUIRE REPLACING THE EV CHARGERS WITH SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE A MEMBERSHIP. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A APPLICABLE, APPROPRIATE FEE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I THINK WE CAN JUST DELETE THAT UNTIL WE DECIDE TO REPLACE THOSE, UH, WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS A, YOU KNOW, A MEMBERSHIP OPTION, A CARD OPTION OR WHATEVER. 
          UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION UNDER COMPOST BIN, IT SAYS SPECIAL EVENT EQUIPMENT RENTAL FOR $20. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. 
          WHAT, WHAT CAN SOMEONE RENT? WHAT SPECIAL EQUIPMENT CAN SOMEONE RENT FOR $20? OH, I THINK THIS IS THE, UM, STREET BARRICADES, THE CONES AND THE UM, AND THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO USE SAW HORSES, BUT THE, NOW WE USE THE TELESCOPING POLES. 
          OKAY. 
          AM I RIGHT MS. PROM? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          I ONLY KNOW THIS 'CAUSE I JUST PAID IT FOR SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, YOU'RE FINE. 
          YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          WE ALSO OFFER TRASH CANS, LIMITED AMOUNT, BUT WE DROPPED THEM UP. 
          TEMPORARY PICK THEM UP. 
          OKAY. 
          TEMPORARY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD JUST ADD THAT SO THAT SOMEONE LOOKING THROUGH THIS KNOWS WHAT IS AVAILABLE, UH, TO THEM. 
          UH, THE BIG ISSUE THAT I HAVE HAD PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT IS THE PAVILION RESERVATION. 
          SO I NOTED HERE IT'S PER DAY, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD. 
          UM, I THOUGHT IT USED TO BE RESIDENT ONLY. 
          IS IT STILL RESIDENT ONLY BECAUSE I, I PERSONALLY THINK IT SHOULD BE. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. 
          I, THERE ARE PLENTY OF COUNTY PAVILIONS YOU'RE WELCOME TO, TO RENT. 
          WE DON'T NEED ALL THE EXTRA TRAFFIC AND TRASH AND ALL THAT. 
          UM, THE ONLY IDEA THAT HAS COME UP THAT I LIKED, UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO BACK TO THE OLD FREE STRUCTURE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED IN A LONG TIME, BUT SOMEONE SUGGESTED A, UH, I THINK IT WAS A BASICALLY A $100 FEE AND A $100 DEPOSIT AND IF THEY CLEANED UP PROPERLY, THEN THEY GOT THEIR DEPOSIT BACK. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ADMINISTRATIVELY DIFFICULT THAT IS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE ACTUALLY SAVE ANY MONEY, RIGHT? IF SOMEONE HAS TO SHOW UP AND INSPECT THE PLACE, THEN MAYBE WE'VE ALREADY SPENT THAT MONEY. 
          UM, BUT THE CONCERN, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY ABOUT INCREASING THE PAVILION RESERVATION IS IT DOES REQUIRE SOME MAN HOURS TO TEND TO IT. 
          UM, SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE A SENSE OF THAT. 
          AND IF YOU THINK THERE COULD BE THAT KIND OF DEPOSIT STRUCTURE AT WHAT I MADE UP THE NUMBER OF 50 50, THAT TYPE OF DEPOSIT STRUCTURE FOR US WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY TOO DIFFICULT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT IS RESIDENT ONLY. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. 
          UM, ALSO IN THE, IN THE FEE STRUCTURE. 
          THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          I OH, YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING? ANYTHING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          SORRY. 
          MY BAD. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD I, I'LL BLUFF IT AND JUST SAY I AM, I TOO AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE $200 PAVILION FEE. 
          UM, I LIKE DAVID'S IDEA, BUT IT SOUNDS ADMINISTRATIVELY IMPRACTICAL. 
          SO I'M OPEN TO OTHER IDEAS FOR HOW TO MAKE THIS NOT A COST LOSER AND A A AND NOT A CONSUMER OF STAFF TIME, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE AFFORDABLE. 
          UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC? OH, VICE MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YES, I AGREE. 
          I THINK $200 PER DAY IS TOO MUCH FOR A PAVILION RENTAL. 
          UM, I ALSO, I'M NOT SURE HOW IT WORKS NOW. 
          IS IT, IS IT A DAY RESERVATION THAT PEOPLE CAN MAKE NOW? IT'S NOT SORT OF BROKEN UP INTO HALF DAYS OR ANYTHING? UM, IT'S A FULL DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, GENERALLY IN HERE I AM IN FAVOR OF INCREASING ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT CHARGE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS. 
          THINGS THAT ARE, ARE FOR LARGER BUSINESSES. 
          I THINK A LOT OF THOSE CAN GO UP RATHER THAN 
          [00:55:01]
INCREASING SOMETHING LIKE THE PAVILION RENTALS. 
          UM, IT SAYS HERE, ALCOHOL PERMIT A HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          I WASN'T SURE WHAT THAT IS. 
          IS THAT FOR HAVING ALCOHOL? YES. 
          AT THE PAVILION? YES, IT IS FOR, I'M SORRY FOR A PRIVATE EVENT. 
          YEAH, IT IS FOR HAVING ALCOHOL AT A PAVILION FOR A PRIVATE EVENT. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YET. 
          THE NOTARY FEE IS ONLY FOR NON TOWN RESIDENTS. 
          OH, IT'S FOR, OH, IT'S FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO THE TOWN OFFICE CHARGES $5 PER DOCUMENT FOR NOTARIZATION. 
          OKAY. 
          I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT MAKES ME A LITTLE NERVOUS. 
          BUT, UM, MR. GALLOWAY, DO YOU WANNA GO BEFORE COUNCILMAN LALO? YEAH, I, I'LL JUST GO OVER SOME OF THE INFORMATION. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER PLEASE, PLEASE SEND COUNCIL MEMBER FURRY. 
          JOHN, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          I'M, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO WAIT FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR IF HE WANTS TO MAKE A POINT, BUT, UM, SO MY QUESTION WAS, UM, UH, SORT OF A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          I AGREE WITH THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID REGARDING, UH, ROLLING BACK THE, UH, PAVILION FEE. 
          I'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF MY, UH, CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THAT THEY THINK IT IS TOO HIGH. 
          UM, I ALSO THOUGHT THAT WE WERE FLIPPING THE ALCOHOL AND THE PAVILION RENTAL. 
          I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING HIGHER ON ALCOHOL AND LOWER ON PAVILION. 
          UH, BUT I MAY HAVE BEEN MISTAKEN THERE. 
          UM, AND IT HAS ALSO COME TO MY ATTENTION, UH, RECENTLY THAT IF YOU ARE A REGISTERED TOWN ORGANIZATION, DOES THE PAVILION FEE NOT APPLY TO YOU? IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT, MR. GALLOWAY? THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT. 
          IF, IF, IF, IF YOU ARE A ORGANIZATION SUCH AS THE PLANNING BOARD, THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, THE RED COUNCIL, THOSE FEES DOES NOT, DOES NOT APPLY. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES THAT INCLUDE GROUPS LIKE CPRC OR LIKE WHAT, WHAT'S THE LIST? WHAT'S THE DELINEATION BETWEEN COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT COUNT AND DON'T COUNT? BECAUSE WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF COMMUNITY GROUPS ABSOLUTELY MEAN THE ORGANIZATION. 
          COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. 
          SORRY. 
          SO THE, THE, THERE'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TOWN ORGANIZATIONS AND THE TOWN COMMITTEES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO THE TOWN COMMITTEES ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE REPORT TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF YOU WILL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'S THE LIST OF NAMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON THAT, THAT PROVIDE THE REPORTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL DURING TOWN MEETINGS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE FREE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF, IF THE HISTORY CLUB, UH, WANTS TO RENT THE PAVILION, THEY ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THE FEE THEY HAVE TO PAY THE FEE. 
          UM, JOHN DID YOU HAVE MORE? WELL, I JUST, YEAH. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS GOING TO PUT IN A REQUEST FOR A PAVILION BECAUSE THEY WERE A RE YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION AND THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THE FEE. 
          I STAND CORRECTED. 
          YOU, YOU, YOU ARE RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO EFFECTIVELY, I DON'T WANT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT EFFECTIVELY THE, THE RENTAL FEE ONLY APPLIES TO PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS, CORRECT. 
          BIRTHDAY PARTIES, ET CETERA. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD JOHN. 
          SO THERE IS, THERE IS EFFECTIVELY, THERE IS A LOOPHOLE THERE THAT IF YOU KNOW OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT YOU ARE A PART OF, YOU COULD SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T YOU SPONSOR MY BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR MY 10-YEAR-OLD OR WHATEVER SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEE AS AN INDIVIDUAL. 
          I CAN TELL YOU NO, IT GOES THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE REVIEW PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THROUGHOUT THAT REVIEW PROCESS, IF THERE WAS ANY INKLING OF PERSONAL USE, UM, THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT AND, UM, AND SHUT IT DOWN FROM THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN SECONDLY, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS THAT IF SOMEONE 
          [01:00:01]
DECIDED TO THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PAY A FEE AND THEY SHOWED UP AT A PAVILION AND IT WAS NOT CURRENTLY BEING RENTED AND THEY DECIDED TO SET UP THEIR EVENT IN THE PAVILION, WOULD THAT BE ALLOWED? WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO DO THAT? WELL, WELL, UH, THEY SHOULDN'T, UH, THE, THEY IT SHOULD BE PERMITTED EITHER WAY. 
          UH, UM, EVERY WEEK ARE EVERY FRIDAY, SATURDAY OR SUNDAY OR WHENEVER THERE IS AN EVENT. 
          EACH EVENT OR ORGANIZATION OR PERSONAL OR PRIVATE EVENT HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A EVENT PERMIT. 
          UM, THAT HAS THE DATE. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE YELLOW OR RED. 
          UM, YELLOW MEANS THAT IS NON-ALCOHOL. 
          RED MEAN THAT IT, THEY'VE PAID FOR THEIR ALCOHOL LICENSE. 
          SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM, VIGILANT OF, OF EITHER OR, UM, BETWEEN, UH, THE TOWN POLICE AND CODE, THEY GO AND MONITOR THOSE EVENTS. 
          IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A PERMIT FOR WHICHEVER SHELTER, UM, AND YOU ARE TRYING TO HAVE AN EVENT, YOU WOULD BE ASKED TO, UM, PROVIDE PROOF OF YOUR PERMIT. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU'LL BE ASKED TO, UH, STOP YOUR EVENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BE ON RECORD THAT I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NUMBER, THAT $200 NUMBER GO BACK TO A $100 NUMBER. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. GALLOWAY, YOU WERE GONNA MAKE A POINT EARLIER. 
          ALRIGHT, SO AS IT RELATES TO FEES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, I THINK, UM, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE RESEARCH INITIALLY, UM, IF MEMORY SERVES CORRECT, WE COMPARED THE FEES TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, UM, AND TO THE MARYLAND NATIONAL CAPITAL PARK AND PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          NOW, I DO KNOW THAT FEES ARE, ARE DIFFERENT IN PER UH, LOCALITY, BUT ACCORDING TO THIS PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION SHELTERS, THE STANDARD RENTAL FEE TYPICALLY IS BETWEEN 200 TO $425, DEPENDING ON THE SPECIFIC REGIONAL PARK PAVILION SIZE. 
          UM, AND JUST LOOKING AT HYATTSVILLE, UM, FOR A LARGE PAVILION IN HYATTSVILLE, UM, FOR 80 PEOPLE, UH, THE COST FOR A PAVILION IS AROUND 1 75. 
          AND FOR A SMALL PAVILION THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE, UM, 125, UM, NO, I'M SORRY, 30, UM, IT'S $125. 
          SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO LOWERING IT DOWN TO $150, UM, BETWEEN THE 125 TO 150 RANGE. 
          UM, JUST SEEING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO SEND STAFF THERE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND, UH, TO ENSURE THAT IT'S CLEANED UP FOR THE NEXT EVENT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF PAYS FOR THOSE HOURS OF, UH, THE STAFF THAT GOES THERE. 
          I JUST WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO PAY FOR ITSELF. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS THE, THE SPIRIT OF RAISING, UH, THE FEE UP TO, UH, $200 OVER. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S, WE'LL GO TO NICOLE AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, WHAT IS THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND CALCULUS HERE WHEN IT COMES TO THE PAVILION RENTALS? LIKE ARE, DO WE HAVE SO MUCH DEMAND FOR THE PAVILION RENTALS THAT INCREASING THE PRICE HELPS TO CURB THAT? OR DO WE HAVE NOT ENOUGH DEMAND THAT WE NEED TO CHARGE MORE IN ORDER TO COVER STAFF TIME? I JUST, I JUST DON'T THINK CH IS THE KIND OF TOWN THAT CHARGES SOMEONE $200 TO RENT A PAVILION WITH NO AMENITIES JUST TO PAVILION. 
          UM, I ALSO DON'T WANT CHEVROLET TO BE THE KIND OF TOWN WHERE IF NO ONE'S USING THE PAVILION AND YOU'RE HAVING AN IMPROMPTU BIRTHDAY PARTY THERE, YOU GET KICKED OUT. 
          UM, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S US. 
          UM, BUT I THINK A HUNDRED DOLLARS IS PROBABLY PLENTY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO WANT TO RECOUP WHATEVER EXPENSES WE HAVE. 
          NO, SO I'LL SAY BETWEEN MAY TO LATE OCTOBER, MID-NOVEMBER THAT THERE IS AN EXTREMELY HIGH DEMAND FOR, FOR THE PAVILION RENTALS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NO, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH, WE, WE CAN LOWER IT TO WHATEVER YOU ALL SEE FIT. 
          I JUST THINK THAT THE REASON WHY WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION INITIALLY WAS BECAUSE OF, UH, THE REGIONAL RESEARCH THAT WE CONDUCTED. 
          UM, BY, BY ANY MEANS, WE 
          [01:05:01]
CAN TAKE 'EM DOWN TO WHEREVER. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE. 
          UM, WELL, I I THINK THAT WE'LL OF COURSE CONTINUE TO, UM, ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTIAL BOOKINGS. 
          UM, SO, UH, I I THINK THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN A, A MAJOR CHANGE AND A DECREASE IN BOOKING SINCE, UM, THE ADOPTION OF, UH, THIS BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT $200 IS WAY DIFFERENT THAN $50. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          SO, UM, BUT, BUT, UM, YEAH, I, I, I, I WOULD, I WOULD BE FOR LOWERING THE FEE OF COURSE FOR, FOR WHAT JOHN SAID ABOUT FLIPPING ALCOHOL AND, UH, THE PERION RENTAL. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE MAN HOURS SPENT, IT'S GONNA BE WHEN THERE'S ALCOHOL. 
          SO I'D RATHER HAVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS FEE FOR THE PAVILION AND THE $200 FEE FOR ALCOHOL. 
          BUT IT'S REALLY, WELL, SOME OF IT IS THE DEMAND STRUCTURE. 
          I'M GUESSING IF PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PAY 200 FOR THE PAVILION, THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY 200 FOR ALCOHOL, ESPECIALLY IF WE'VE REDUCED THE PRICE OF THE PAVILION TO A HUNDRED. 
          SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE MAKING IT COST PROHIBITIVE. 
          UM, BUT I WANTED TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON LOW, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT LOWERING THE PAVILION FEE, BUT RAISING THE ALCOHOL PERMIT FEE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S NOT MESSING WITH LITTLE TOMMY'S BIRTHDAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WE, WE INITIALLY DID INCREASE THE ALCOHOL PERMIT FEE. 
          UM, IT WAS INITIALLY $50. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE DID TAKE IT UP TO A HUNDRED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BY, BY ANY MEANS IF, IF, IF IT'S WILL THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE IT AT 200, UM, WE MOST CERTAINLY CAN. 
          BUT, UM, I WOULD SAY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST MAKE BOTH OF THEM A HUNDRED. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S GO BACK, LET'S GO TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS AND MOVE ON. 
          YOUR NAME, YOUR WARD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          I MIGHT NEED THREE MINUTES JUST FOR THE PAVILION , BUT, UM, UM, I'VE MADE NOTES ON A, ON A FEW OF THESE THINGS, BUT I'LL START OUT WITH A PAVILION. 
          UM, THIS SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE IN TOWN FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES, FOR CHILDREN, FOR GROWNUPS. 
          UM, AND I, I'M GONNA BE DRASTIC. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD CERTAINLY BE NO HIGHER THAN $50. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE FINDING WAYS TO SUPPORT PEOPLE IN KEEPING THE SPACE CLEAN. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS BRING UP GREENBELT. 
          I'M GONNA BRING UP GREENBELT. 
          YOU HAVE YOUR RESERVATION AND YOU MAKE A $100 DEPOSIT WITH A CREDIT CARD AND A, AND A DRIVER'S LICENSE. 
          IF YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLEANUP, YOU GET THAT $100 BACK. 
          IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THEM. 
          IT SHOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR US. 
          THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN I SAY TO MAKE IT EASIER, UM, IT, THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE WHEN YOU GO, YOU ACTUALLY CHECK OUT A KIT. 
          THAT KIT HAS YOUR TRASH BAGS. 
          THAT KIT HAS RULES ABOUT HOW YOU PACKAGE THINGS UP, PACK THINGS OUT, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THE PAVILION AVAILABLE FOR YET ANOTHER RENTAL IN THE AFTERNOON. 
          THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THIS. 
          IT, IT HAP IT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST. 
          UM, YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE WHO, UH, VIOLATE THAT. 
          YOU ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T GOOD NEIGHBORS AND THERE ARE WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          UM, AND UM, I'VE BEEN IN A PLACE WHERE I'VE COME IN AND IT'S BEEN A MESS FOR MY CHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY AND I CLEANED IT UP AND I REPORTED IT TO THE TOWN BECAUSE I, I CAME WITH MY OWN STUFF. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE A KIT, YOU HAVE A WAY TO CLEAN UP FOR IT, REPORT IT, AND MAKE IT GOOD. 
          SO LET'S THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. 
          AND I CERTAINLY DON'T SUPPORT MAKING ALCOHOL AT THE SAME COST AS THE PAVILION. 
          ALCOHOL SHOWS. 
          IF YOU'RE GONNA BE BRINGING ALCOHOL, YOU'RE INVESTING MORE MONEY IN IT, YOU CAN PAY MORE MONEY FOR THAT PRIVILEGE. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO HAVE A LITTLE PARTY FOR YOUR CHILD, IT'S DIFFERENT. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CHILDREN, IT BECOMES INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. 
          THE OTHER THING IS TO CHANGE HOWEVER THIS IS HAPPENING, WHERE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE IN TOWN PARTIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY, THAT SOMEBODY FROM IN TOWN IS PULLING IN ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF TOWN THAT ARE LARGE SCALE EVENTS. 
          AND WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THESE SPACES. 
          THAT'S WHERE COUNTY SPACES SHOULD BE DRAWN UPON OR COMMERCIAL SPACES. 
          BUT WE KEEP HAVING THOSE LARGE EVENTS THAT AREN'T, UM, ROOTED WITHIN, UM, COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, FROM THERE, WAS THAT THE TIME? OKAY. 
          FROM THERE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO NOTARIES. 
          NOTARIES SHOULD 
          [01:10:01]
BE FREE FOR RESIDENTS. 
          NOW IT COULD BE SOMETHING, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COPIES, I UNDERSTAND THE COST FOR COPIES. 
          I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO THE MPIA FOIA REQUESTS. 
          UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NO SPECIFICITY IN HERE. 
          AND IF THE, IF THE MPI MPIA REQUEST IS FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD, THERE SHOULD NOT BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          AND THAT'S WITHIN THE STANDARDS AND THE GUIDELINES OF THE STATE. 
          SO IF IT'S FOR AN INDIVIDUAL INTEREST, BUT FOR PUBLIC GOOD, IT'S, IT'S GENERALLY NOT A COST. 
          SO I WOULD WANNA UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, FOR THAT. 
          AND I KNOW WE'RE OUT OF TIME, BUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, HAVE ADDRESSED ON ANOTHER OCCASION WOULD BE THE HOLIDAY TREE DISPOSAL, BECAUSE THAT'S NEW . 
          AND THEN, AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DUMPING OF HOLIDAY TREES WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO BE PICKED UP. 
          UM, AND SAME WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE BULK TRASH ITEMS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          LOOK UP THE TREE. 
          OH, I SEE IT. 
          YEAH, I DUNNO ABOUT THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, GO AHEAD. 
          LET'S STAY WITH THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. 
          I THINK JOHN, YOUR HAND IS UP. 
          WE'LL COME TO YOU FIRST. 
          GO AHEAD OR NOT. 
          NO. 
          SAY ME OR SHEILA. 
          SHEILA. 
          SOLO WARD TWO. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SOLICITATION BUSINESS LICENSE AT $100 ANNUALLY AND A SOLICITOR PERMIT AT $1,000 PER DAY. 
          ANYBODY PREPARED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AT THE MOMENT? IF NOT, UM, I'LL JUST GO ON AND SAY THE SOLICITOR PERMIT IS A JOKE. 
          WE'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, IT'S RIDICULOUS. 
          UM, WE HAD SOMEBODY COME TO THE HOUSE, THIS MO JUST, JUST THIS AFTERNOON, UM, SELLING INSURANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I ASKED THEM IF THEY HAD, UH, A TOWN PERMIT. 
          AT LEAST THEY WERE HONEST AND SAID, NO, , . 
          I SAID, YOU MUST GET A PERMIT. 
          I CAN'T TALK TO YOU . 
          UM, AND I GUESS MORE PEOPLE SHOULD DO THAT, BUT, UH, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COLLECT IT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE IT. 
          THERE'S NO POINT IN HAVING IT AT ALL. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ON THE OTHER PAGE, INDUSTRIAL PARK COVENANTS VIOLATIONS. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY HERE KNOWS WHAT THE INDUSTRIAL PARK COVENANTS ARE. 
          UM, I HAPPEN TO KNOW. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS IT SAYS THAT YOU SHALL BE NO CHURCHES IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. 
          HAVE WE BEEN CHARGING THEM? THANK YOU. 
          HMM. 
          THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
          UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE FEE SCHEDULE? OKAY. 
          SEEING NONE, I THINK WE'RE BACK TO JOHN AND THEN WE'LL WRAP THIS CONVERSATION UP. 
          GO AHEAD, JOHN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, I JUST, I HAD A QUESTION PICKING UP ON WHAT THE VICE MAYOR HAD ASKED REGARDING, HAVE WE NOTICED A DOWNTURN IN RESERVATIONS SINCE THE FEE SCHEDULE WENT UP? AND DO WE HAVE, WHEN YOU WERE GOING OVER THE FEES FOR NON CHEVROLET PARK RENTALS, DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO RENT? UH, FOR EXAMPLE, CASTLE PARK NEAR THE POOL, CAN ONE RENT THAT FROM THE COUNTY? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S AN EASY ONE. 
          NO, YOU CANNOT RENT CASTLE PARK. 
          IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT ONE OF THE M-N-C-P-P-C FACILITIES THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR RENT. 
          GO AHEAD MR. GALLOWAY. 
          SORRY. 
          THERE HAS NOT BEEN A DOWNTURN IN RESERVATIONS FOR THE PAVILIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          OH, COUNCIL MEMBER FRY, WERE YOU NEXT? THANK YOU. 
          UM, I ALSO HAVE GOTTEN SIMILAR FEEDBACK ABOUT THE PAVILION, UM, AND SOMETHING THAT, UH, LAYLA MENTIONED. 
          I, I THINK I, I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS DOABLE, BUT AT LEAST WITH THE PAVILION RESERVATIONS, PERHAPS IT COULD BE A SCALED, SO IF YOU ARE HAVING A 
          [01:15:01]
KID'S BIRTHDAY PARTY AND IT'S LIKE 30 PEOPLE, RIGHT? MAYBE 50 PEOPLE OR LESS SOMETHING, YOU DO A SMALLER PRIZE, MAYBE $50. 
          BUT IF YOUR EVENT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE THERE, THAT MEANS OUR POLICE ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME THROUGH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MORE RESOURCES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WHEN IT'S A BIGGER EVENT, UM, PERHAPS THEN THAT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT COSTS A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCALE IS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE. 
          UH, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. 
          UM, I KNOW THIS PAST WEEKEND THERE WAS A VERY BIG EVENT, UM, AND WE KNOW IT'S A BIG EVENT NOW 'CAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE PAST WE DIDN'T ALWAYS KNOW AND NOW THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THE TOWN. 
          UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE. 
          BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT I THINK SHOULDN'T BE THE SAME PRICE AS, YOU KNOW, 30 KIDS, YOU KNOW, 15 OF THEM KIDS, 15 ADULTS GETTING PAID TO CHARGE THE SAME PRICE. 
          SO MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER THE PAVILION RESERVATION MORE OF A SCALE. 
          UM, AND THEN WITH THE NOTARIES, IT IS A NICE PERK TO HAVE FREE NOTARY. 
          UM, BUT ALSO NOT EVERYBODY USES IT. 
          BUT ALSO $5 ISN'T THAT MUCH. 
          BUT ALSO, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A, EVERY RESIDENT CAN GET UP TO YEAH. 
          SOMETHING A YEAR. 
          BUT HOW DO YOU KEEP TRACK OF THAT? AND THAT COULD BECOME A HASSLE, BUT IT, IT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT OF, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY YOU KNOW, OR EVERY HOUSEHOLD GETS UP TO FIVE FREE A YEAR OR THREE FREE A YEAR. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, AND WE CAN MAYBE DO IT THAT WAY. 
          UM, JUST, I KNOW $5 IS PROBABLY CHEAPER THAN YOU'RE GONNA GET IT ANYWHERE ELSE THOUGH. 
          SO. 
          YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO GET, I I THINK IT WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE NIGHTMARE. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THAT EVERY PERSON, YOU KNOW, GETS FIVE NOTARIES FREE IF YOU'RE A TOWN RESIDENT PER MONTH OR SOMETHING. 
          IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE NIGHTMARE. 
          UM, SO I DON'T LIKE THE $5. 
          I THINK WE LEAVE IT FOR NOW AND MAYBE TALK DURING THE BUDGET SEASON ABOUT HOW MANY WE SOLD AND WHETHER THERE WAS A REDUCTION. 
          LIKE ARE WE PUSHING PEOPLE AWAY ANYWAY, WE CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FOR ONE YEAR VERSUS THE OTHER YEAR. 
          UM, OKAY, SO I DON'T, VERY QUICK QUESTION. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR MUCH WADE, ARE YOU TRYING TO TALK, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR REGARDING, UH, THE, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST THE TOWN TO, UM, INSPECT THE, UM, EVENT ONCE IT'S DONE? ARE WE COVERING THE COST OF THAT FOR EACH EVENT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT'S, IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY. 
          IT'S A COUPLE HOURS OF STAFF TIME. 
          MAYBE IT'S AN HOUR, MAYBE IT'S TWO. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO THERE'S THE NUMBER TO THAT THOUGH, RIGHT? ALRIGHT, SO FOR FOR INSTANCE, FOR THIS LAST EVENT, UM, THERE WAS, THIS WAS A SPECIAL EVENT. 
          UM, SO WE DID CHARGE FOR STAFF TIME, UM, FOR TWO STAFF MEMBERS, ONE STAFF, BUT ALSO MATERIALS AND ALSO MATERIALS. 
          UM, SO, UM, IT WAS $500 I THINK FOR, UH, THE TIME THAT, UH, THE STAFF MEMBER WAS THERE. 
          UM, AND IT WENT THROUGH ITS SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS OF BEING NOTIFIED 90 DAYS OUT IN ADVANCE, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HAVING THE, UH, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REVIEW, HAVING THE PUBLIC WORKS REVIEW AND THEN ULTIMATELY HAVING MY REVIEW AND APPROVAL. 
          UM, SO FOR EVENTS LIKE THAT, YES. 
          UM, AS FAR AS FOR SMALLER EVENTS AT THE PAVILION OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE ARE JUST A STANDARD COSTS. 
          I THINK IF WE START PLAYING WITH, UH, NUMBERS OF WHERE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE 30, UH, WE HAD AN EVENT HERE, UM, A FEW WEEKS AGO WHERE THEY INDICATED TO US THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE 75 PEOPLE. 
          THIS WAS ON A FRIDAY EVENING AND IT WAS PROBABLY 175 PEOPLE HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND IT WAS A NIGHTMARE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IIII JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN FIT UNDER THE PAVILION, WE JUST ANTICIPATE THAT IT CAN BE THAT OF MANY. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST CHARGE THEM A STANDARD FEE PER PAVILION. 
          OH. 
          SO THANK YOU SIR. 
          SO MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION, WOULD IT BE BEST TO THEN, PARDON ME IF I DON'T, THIS IS ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT IF NOT A SLIDING SCALE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE, IT IS NOT IN PLACE. 
          NO. 
          NO, IT'S NOT IN PLACE. 
          THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER FRY. 
          UM, JUST PROPOSED. 
          I MEAN, I LOOK, I THINK WHEN WE, 
          [01:20:02]
I THINK WHEN WE ADOPTED THE FEE SCHEDULE, WE WERE LOOKING AT IT FOR, UM, A REVENUE GENERATOR AS WELL DURING THE BUDGET SEASON. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE CAN CHANGE IT TO WHATEVER THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE IT TO. 
          UM, WE CAN, WE CAN DO WHATEVER THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO. 
          WE CAN AMEND OUR PROCESSES IF NEED BE. 
          I THINK THAT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT REVENUES AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET , YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL KIND OF TRYING TO MAKE DRASTIC CHANGES, UH, FOR THE BUDGET AND, AND LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE. 
          SO, UM, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FINAL. 
          WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE ON THIS EVENING OR WHENEVER, UH, MY TEAM AND I CAN GET TOGETHER ON AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO AS NE AS NECESSARY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND IT'S THE IMPORTANT THING FOR ME IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING THE TALENT IS NOT LOSING MONEY BASED ON RENT IT OUT. 
          SO THAT'S THE MAIN FOR MY QUESTION IS ARE WE LOSING ANY MONEY FOR EACH RENTAL? NO. 
          BASED ON THE MANPOWER? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          DAVID, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? UM, ALRIGHT, SO I DIDN'T, I MEAN, OTHER THAN THE EV STATION MEMBERSHIP, WHICH IS NOT APPLICABLE, ALL I'M HEARING IS THE PAVILION AND THE ALCOHOL. 
          UM, SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTION MOVING INTO THE, WELL, MOVING INTO THE WINTER BUT THEN INTO THE SPRING AS THE RESERVATIONS PICK UP? UH, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION OR WHAT DOES COUNSEL THINK ABOUT FLIPPING THE 100 AND 200 FROM THE ALCOHOL IN THE PAVILION? CAN I, CAN I POSE A QUESTION SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSION? YOU'RE ON THE COUNCIL SIR. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THANK YOU SIR. 
          I  UM, I DO WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SLIDING SCALE. 
          UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBER FRY AND COUNCIL MEMBER WADE IS BROUGHT UP. 
          CAN YOU JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FRY? SO ARE WE SAYING FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES FOR LESS THAN 50 PEOPLE, DO WE WANT TO CHARGE US A A DIFFERENT FEE? UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M THINKING LIKE, TO WHAT LAYLA SAID, RIGHT, LIKE IF I'M HAVING A SEVEN YEAR OLD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, DO I WANNA BE DROPPING A TON OF RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT IN OF ITSELF IS THE PARTY ITSELF IS ALREADY A HEADACHE, RIGHT? AND THEN ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS YOU GOTTA DO AND THE PARTY FAVORS AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU'RE SAYING JUST LIKE BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR LESS THAN 50 PEOPLE, I CAN GET 50 OF MY FRIENDS AND WE CAN MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT BECOMES WHERE LIKE THE POLICE COME, YOU KNOW, LIKE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN QUAL QUALIFY IT'S JUST A BIRTHDAY PARTY. 
          UM, BUT I GET THE DIFFERENCE OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, A CHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY IS JUST, IT'S LESS IMPACT I GUESS VERSUS SOMETHING THAT'S BIGGER THAT MIGHT HAVE MORE TRAFFIC THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT NEED MORE RESOURCES THROWN AT IT. 
          UM, AND EVEN MORE LIKE TRASH BAGS. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE JUST GONNA BE MAKING MORE TRASH WITH 50 ADULTS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, 50 KIDS KIND OF THING. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. 
          I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT DOES SEEM A LITTLE ODD TO CHARGE THE SAME THING FOR TWO VERY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARTIES. 
          UM, I WANNA MAKE IT EQUITABLE BECAUSE I MEAN, I DO AGREE WITH WHAT LAYLA SAID AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LINE IS. 
          LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. 
          YOU SAY LIKE A OH 12 AND UNDER 14 AND UNDER THEN LIKE HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE AGE BIRTHDAY PARTY IS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT, IT DOES START TO GET COMPLICATED. 
          BUT IF WE CAN SCHOOL AGE KIDS, WE CAN HIGH SCHOOL AGE AND LOWER OR YOU KNOW, WITH SO SCHOOL AGE. 
          'CAUSE I COULD BE IN SCHOOL YOU START, YOU'RE IN SCHOOL . 
          TRUE. 
          WELL, BUT  I'M JUST SAYING RIGHT? LIKE, BECAUSE BECAUSE WHEN THE FEAST DO START TO GET MY THING'S TALKING TO ME. 
          SO, EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, BUT I I I, I THINK THE POINT IS A LITTLE KID'S BIRTHDAY PARTY SHOULDN'T COST THE SAME AS I AGREE. 
          SOMETHING THAT'S BIGGER. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO DAVID AND THEN NICOLE AND THEN WE'LL GET AWAY FORWARD HERE. 
          I AGREE. 
          I'D SAY MOVING FORWARD IS GOOD. 
          SO A, I LIKE THE FLIP IT AND I'M ALSO HAPPY TO SAY THE HONOR SYSTEM, IF IT IS A KID'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRICE AND KIDS IS DEFINED K THROUGH EIGHT OR K THROUGH 12, AND WE CAN DECIDE HOW MUCH WE CARE ABOUT THAT. 
          I'M OKAY WITH THAT BEING GENEROUS. 
          AND THEN SAYING IN A YEAR, IS THIS BEING ABUSED? RIGHT? UM, BECAUSE TO UH, VICE MAYOR MINOR'S POINT EARLIER, I DON'T WANNA BE THE PLACE WHERE, UM, POLICING, YOU KNOW, BIRTHDAY PARTIES. 
          SO I'M, 
          [01:25:01]
I WOULD LOVE THAT. 
          I THINK KIDS' BIRTHDAY PARTY IS A SPECIAL TOWN SPONSORED EVENT AND THEN FLIP IT TO 102 HUNDRED FOR ALCOHOL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THEN WE CAN, I MEAN, ADVERTISE A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY THAT COMMUNITY GROUPS DON'T PAY. 
          AND THEN I THINK IT, IT STOPS FEELING LIKE IT'S SUCH A RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT EVEN THOUGH OBVIOUSLY YOU, YOU NOW HAVE A FEE SCHEDULE. 
          SO IT'S A TIMELY, MORE COMPLICATED ON YOUR SIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND COUNCILMAN MCBRIEN BEFORE YOU TAKE THE MIC, THE IMPROMPTU MEETINGS? UM, I, YES. 
          SO THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPROMPTU MEETINGS. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, I, I SEE PEOPLE COOKING ON THE GRILLS ALL THE TIME THAT DOESN'T RENT OUT THE, THE PAVILIONS AND WE DON'T SAY ANYTHING TO THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC SPACE. 
          BUT, UH, WHEN IT BECOMES A PROBLEM OR A CONFLICT IS WHEN THERE IS, UM, SPACE THAT IS BOOKED AND WE HAVE TO GO IN AND INTERVENE. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE TIMES THAT WE HAVE TO GO IN AND BE THE ENFORCER OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS A PUBLIC SPACE. 
          SO I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU THERE. 
          GREAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT IS RIGHT. 
          IF SOMEONE HAS RESERVED THE SPACE AND DONE THAT WORK, YES. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE, UM, ACCESSIBILITY FOR THAT SPACE. 
          UH, TWO QUICK THINGS. 
          ONE IS THAT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SPECIFIC ABOUT, OH, IF IT'S KIDS' BIRTHDAY PARTIES, IF IT'S CERTAIN AGES, IF THERE'S A GROUP OF 10 SENIORS THAT WANT TO DO AN EVENT IN A PAVILION, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY MORE JUST 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT KIDS. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD BE LIKE A, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THING. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S REALLY HARD TO ENFORCE BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, THE, THE EVENT RECENTLY SAID 75 AND HAD MORE THAN TWICE THAT. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SPECIFIC ABOUT LIKE, KIDS' BIRTHDAY PARTIES GET LESS, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE THERE IN SOME FASHION. 
          UM, MY OTHER THING THAT YOU REMINDED ME OF, THERE'S A FEE IN HERE FOR COURT RENTALS, PLAYING COURT RENTALS. 
          UM, AND I WASN'T SURE WHAT THAT MEANS AND DOES IT PRECLUDE PEOPLE FROM COMING AND, UM, JUST HAVING LIKE A PICKUP GAME OF BASKETBALL AS THEY DO? AM I EVEN, AM I MAKING THIS UP? IS THERE A COURT RENTAL? IT'S THERE. 
          YEAH, IT'S THERE. 
          UM, A WHILE AGO. 
          YEAH. 
          OUTDOOR TOWN COURT RESERVATION. 
          OH, OR HOUR. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO IF YOU REMEMBER A WHILE AGO, I THINK THIS WAS WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER THEN NETTLES WAS ON THE COUNCIL AND WE, UH, PASSED, UM, A POLICY RELATED TO THE RENTAL OF COURTS AND FIELDS, PARKS. 
          YOU REMEMBER THAT? VAGUELY. 
          VAGUELY, YES. 
          YEAH. 
          FIELD. 
          SO, SO I THINK THAT AS A RESULT OF THAT POLICY, THEN, UM, THIS IS THE RESULT OF THE FEE FOR THE COURT. 
          SO YES, UM, THERE CAN BE COURTS, COURTS CAN CLOSE IF IT'S RESERVED. 
          OTHERWISE IT IS A PUBLIC SPACE, UH, FOR SAY FOR INSTANCE, REC COUNCIL RESERVE, UH, FOR FREE FOR PICKLEBALL, ET CETERA. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU CAN RENT THE SPACE. 
          YEAH, SAME SIMILARLY, THE SOCCER CLUB HAS RENTED THE FIELD BEFORE FOR THEIR, THEIR CHALLENGER SOCCER. 
          SO OF COURSE YOU CAN GO TO THE FIELD ANY OTHER TIME, BUT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO CHASE YOU OFF WHEN THEY HAVE THE, WHEN THEY PAID THE RESERVATION TO PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA DO THE 100 FOR THE PAVILION, WE'RE GONNA DO THE 200 FOR THE ALCOHOL, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN DURING THE BUDGET. 
          AND IN THE MEANTIME, PERHAPS MR. GALLOWAY, WE CAN ASK YOU AND THE TEAM TO PUT YOUR THINKING CAPS ON ABOUT SOME KIND OF SCALE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS FOR PAVILION RENTALS AND MAYBE WE'LL GET THERE AND MAYBE WE WON'T. 
          YEAH, MAYOR. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANNA GO ON RECORD TO SAY I DO AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE, UH, A NUMERICAL VERSUS WHAT TYPE OF EVENT IT IS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON THEN. 
          IT'S PUSHING NINE O'CLOCK. 
          UH, ITEM SEVEN IS THE ETHICS COMMITTEE RESOLUTION. 
          THIS IS A NECESSARY HOUSEKEEPING ITEM IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO HAVE AN ETHICS COMMISSION AS REQUIRED IN THE TOWN CODE. 
          UH, THESE TERMS ARE FOR THREE YEARS. 
          COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR HAVE NOMINATED SEVEN MEMBERS. 
          UM, DAVID LAVOY, ED TERRY DION DOBBINS, THOMAS ROLL, 
          [01:30:01]
LATONYA JONES, ANNA CLARK, AND TANYA PARKER YATES. 
          UM, THEY WILL SERVE FOR THREE YEARS. 
          WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THEM SERVING THE LAST THREE YEARS IN THE REBUILDING OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION. 
          UH, AND, UM, WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO SERVE. 
          UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS RESOLUTION BEFORE WE, UM, PROCEED TO A MOTION? VICE MAYOR, YOU WANNA GO FIRST AND THEN I DOUBT WE'LL HAVE ANY RESIDENT INPUT, BUT ANYONE FROM ANY RESIDENTS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FEEL FREE TO SPEAK NEXT. 
          I'M SO SORRY I DIDN'T CATCH THIS WHEN YOU SENT THE AGENDA, BUT, UM, DION'S NAME IS SPELLED WITH TWO NS. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          VICE MAYOR, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION? OKAY, SEEING NONE, COUNSEL, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT R 4 26 T MEMBERS TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION? SO MOVED. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO COUNCIL MEMBER TANZIS MOTION? SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          OH, COUNCIL MEMBER GARCES. 
          SO THAT IS, UH, MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GARCE. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO ADOPT R 4 26? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO, THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. 
          ITEM EIGHT IS THE ELECTION SEQUENCING. 
          MAYOR, I'M SORRY, I'M BEFORE YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          DO YOU WANNA SWEAR IN THE ETHICS COMMITTEE AT THE NEXT TOWN MEETING? THANK MA'AM. 
          THEY GENERALLY WON'T ACCOMMODATE THEY SCHEDULE FOR THE FIRST OH, CAN YOU SPEAK, CAN YOU USE THE MIC? I'M SORRY. 
          IT WAS DISCUSSED FOR THEM TO BE SWORN IN AT THEIR FIRST MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL DO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT QUESTION. 
          UH, OKAY, SO  IS ELECTION SEQUENCING. 
          AND THIS IS A QUESTION RAISED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WADE, ABOUT, UM, THE SEQUENCING OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL ELECTIONS VERSUS SWEARING INS. 
          UH, THE ELECTION, I BELIEVE, UH, IS MANDATED. 
          THE TIMING OF THE ELECTION IS MANDATED IN THE TOWN CODE, BUT THAT'S ALSO IN THE CHARTER. 
          I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK FIRST, FIRST MONDAY MAYBE YOU WERE JUST SAYING CHARTER COUNCILMAN MC FRY. 
          I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          UH, SO THEN THE QUESTION, SO WE COULD CHANGE THE CHARTER TO MOVE THE ELECTION OR WE COULD SIMPLY MOVE, UM, THAT'S SWEARING IN AND BUILD IN A LONGER TRANSITION TIME PERIOD. 
          RIGHT NOW THE TRANSITION IS EITHER THREE DAYS OR 10 DAYS, DEPENDING ON HOW THE CALENDAR WORKS OUT, WHICH IS FRANKLY BIZARRE. 
          UH, BUT, UM, I WOULD STOP THERE AND, UH, OPEN THE FLOOR TO COUNCIL MEMBER MAID IF I'VE MISCONSTRUED OR NOT CAPTURED ANYTHING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MAYOR, CAN YOU MAYBE PULL THE MIC AWAY? IT'S A LOT OF STATIC. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BECAUSE THE MIC IS CLOSE TO YOU. 
          I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YEAH, I BROUGHT THIS UP AS MENTIONED BEFORE SEVERAL TIMES. 
          UM, I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S AS IT IS A FAIR ADJUST NOT ONLY TO THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT TO THE RESIDENTS THAT AN INDIVIDUAL VOTE ON A BUDGET THAT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH. 
          SO, UH, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS IN, UM, IN VARIOUS, UH, PLATFORMS AND OCCASIONS REGARDING WHETHER WE SHOULD MOVE THE ELECTION BACK TO, UH, A DIFFERENT DATE OR HAVE THE ELECTION ON THAT DATE. 
          AND THEN I THINK THE, UH, ACTUAL ELECTION, UM, UH, MEMBERS SUGGESTED THAT, UH, WE PUSH IT TO A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE ELECTED IN MAY, BUT THEY WILL NOT, UM, BE SWORN INTO, UH, LATER THAT YEAR. 
          UM, I, I'M MORE OF THE NOTION OF THAT, UM, I BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE, IF THEY'RE IN A SEAT THAT THEY KNOW THEY HAVE, THEY EITHER LOST OR THEY'RE NOT WORKING ANYMORE THAT THEY MIGHT NOT PUT THEIR FULL EFFORT TOWARDS. 
          THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. 
          UM, SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UM, THE ELECTION WOULD BE PUSHED BACK, UM, TOWARDS MORE TOWARDS EITHER THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET SEASON. 
          UH, WE CAN DECIDE AROUND THAT TIMEFRAME, UH, VERSUS BEING SWORN IN AND THEN, UM, BEING, BEING ELECTED, BUT BEING SWORN IN AT A LATER DATE. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE ISSUE IS THE FACT OF, UM, SOMEONE VOTING ON A BUDGET THAT THEY HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR NOT ONLY TO THAT PARTICULAR PERSON, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT THEY REPRESENT WILL BE REPRESENT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
          COUNSEL, ANYTHING, ANY COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? MR. TANZI? UM, 
          [01:35:01]
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE, THE POINT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND I TRY TO THINK, WHEN WOULD SOMEONE WHO'S VOTING WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU COULD PARTICIPATE IN THE, UH, BUDGET? RIGHT? MAYBE I'M VOTING FOR YOU IN PART BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE DOING A TERRIBLE JOB OF THE BUDGET AND I WANT YOU THERE TO, TO VOTE. 
          NO, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE WHOLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL GET REMOVED AND NOW THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET SEASON, THAT'S HALF DISASTER AND HALF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. 
          UM, I DO THINK IT'S A LITTLE ODD TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WAGEPOINT TO SAY YOU'RE ELECTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET SEASON. 
          THE, THEN YOU JUST HANG OUT FOR A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE YOU'RE SWORN IN. 
          'CAUSE UH, IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S QUITE A WHILE BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE FINAL BUDGET. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHICH WAY I'D WANNA GO. 
          I THINK COMING IN RIGHT AFTER A BUDGET HAS BEEN APPROVED THAT YOU WERE CAMPAIGNING IN THE MIDDLE OF IS ALSO ODD. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THE GAP. 
          I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY WE'RE EITHER MOVING THE ELECTION TO BEFORE BUDGET SEASON, SO THAT THAT'S SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE BEING ELECTED TO PARTICIPATE IN, WHICH IS STILL TOUGH. 
          IT STILL MEANS YOU HAVE TO SHOW UP AND IMMEDIATELY PARTICIPATE IN, IN THE BUDGET, BUT THAT'S AN ANNUAL THING, SO, YOU KNOW, GET READY FOR IT. 
          UM, OR YOU PUSH IT TILL AFTER, WHICH IS ITS OWN TOUGH PLACE TO BE, UH, PUT INTO. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU'VE JUST BEEN DUMPED INTO A, INTO A BUDGET THAT YOU HAD NO SAY OVER. 
          SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ARE, UM, ON THAT. 
          I WILL SAY AS A LITTLE BIT OF ASTERISK, IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT I ALSO DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN A DISASTER. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS LIKE SOME EMERGENCY. 
          I THINK THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A STRONG SENSE THAT CHANGING THE ELECTION IS, IS MEANINGFUL, UM, TO DO THAT WORK SINCE PEOPLE ARE ARE USED TO IT. 
          AND I AT LEAST HAVE NOT HEARD A CONSTITUENT SAY, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ELECTION IN, IN MAY IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET SEASON. 
          SO IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A, A HUGE ISSUE AMONG THE ELECTORATE. 
          YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE VOTERS, I'VE NOT HEARD FROM VOTERS WHO ARE FRUSTRATED BY THE CURRENT SYSTEM. 
          IT'S MOSTLY A RECOGNITION BY ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT THERE'S THIS SEEMS THERE'S SOMETHING SEEMS AMISS ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, THE ONLY THING I WILL ADD, AGAIN, COUNTERPOINT IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, IF YOU LOSE AN ELECTION, YOU SHOULD LEAVE OFFICE AS SOON AS PRACTICABLE, YOU KNOW, SO THE IDEA THAT, AND AGAIN, WE HAD THIS PROBLEM AT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN THE 19TH CENTURY, RIGHT? IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY WHERE YOU COULD LOSE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION AND STAY IN OFFICE UNTIL APRIL. 
          AND THAT'S WHY INAUGURATION DAY WAS MOVED TO JANUARY. 
          IS IT PRACTICAL? IT'S A REALLY TIGHT TURNAROUND, BUT IT WAS CRAZY. 
          LONG VICE MAYOR. 
          I AM VERY WARY OF ANY ACTIONS THAT WE MIGHT TAKE AS A BODY THAT WOULD EXTEND OUR TERM IN OFFICE WITHOUT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF EVEN CHANGING THE SWEARING IN DATE WOULD DO THAT. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM ATTORNEY DELOACH IF HE HAS LOOKED INTO THIS, UH, WHAT HIS PERSPECTIVE IS. 
          MR. DELOACH, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? YEAH. 
          IT, IT, IT IS CUMBERSOME TO DO THAT. 
          IT IT, EVEN THOUGH THE INTENT IS NOT TO EXTEND YOUR TERM, BUT THE NET EFFECT OF IT IS IT WILL EXTEND YOUR TERM. 
          SO I DO THINK THAT IS A BIT OF A CONCERN, UM, UH, IF IT'S CHALLENGED. 
          UH, BUT I THINK THAT THE LEGISLATIVE RECORD HERE THAT'S BEEN MADE CLEARLY INDICATES THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE BEHIND THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE PURPOSE IS NOT TO KEEP YOU IN OFFICE LONG. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THE INTENT IS, IS TO KEEP THERE BEING A CUMBERSOME PROCESS SURROUNDING THE BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, IT IS DEFENSIBLE, BUT IT'S NOT A BEST PRACTICE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO MR. WADE AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE THAT DEFINITELY I DON'T AGREE TO THE PURPOSES, NOT TO EXTENT ANYONE'S TERM. 
          AND TWO, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, MR. LOS, THIS WOULD ACTUALLY NOT AFFECT THE UPCOMING MAY ELECTION. 
          THIS WOULD HAVE TO THEN BE THE ELECTION THAT'S TO BE TWO AND A HALF YEARS FROM 
          [01:40:01]
NOW, CORRECT, SIR. 
          WHAT I THOUGHT ORIGINALLY IS WHAT YOU STATED BEFORE YES SIR. 
          BUT IF IT, IF THE, IF, IF THE INTENT IS FOR THIS ELECTION THAT CAN CONCERN IS THERE, IF IT'S IMPACTING AN ELECTION TWO AND A HALF YEARS FROM NOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT CONCERN IS ELIMINATED. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, MY, MY INTENTIONS, AND I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, WOULD BE NOT THE CURRENT MAY ELECTION. 
          IT WOULD BE THE ELECTION, UM, AFTER THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND WOULD THAT ALSO BE THEN THE ELECT ELECTION OF THE MAYOR? UH, WILL THIS AFFECT THE MAYOR'S ELECTION IN A YEAR AND A HALF? UM, WELL THE MA I MEAN, MY TERM IS THREE YEARS. 
          I CAN'T EXTEND MY OWN TERM. 
          YOU CAN'T EXTEND MY TERM EITHER. 
          UM, BUT MY TURN, I ALSO DON'T HAVE TO BE ELECTED IN THE SAME MONTH THAT THE COUNCIL'S ELECTED. 
          IT WOULD BE A LITTLE UNUSUAL, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          UM, UM, IS IT, SO, I MEAN, THAT'S THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, IS IT, WOULDN'T YOU, YOU CAN'T EXTEND MY TERM ANYMORE THAN YOU CAN EXTEND YOUR OWN TERM, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE TOGETHER OR THEY CAN'T BE TOGETHER. 
          SO THAT, SO THEN THAT WOULD BE, THE MAYOR'S TERM WOULD NOT BE THE, THE THE 2020, UH, EIGHT, IT WOULD BE THE 2011, CORRECT? IF I'M NUMBERS IS CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I GUESS IF YOU'RE GONNA MOVE THE MAYOR'S ELECTION DATE, UH, YOU'D BE MOVING IT IN 2031. 
          MR. TANZI. 
          SO I DEFINITELY WANNA KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS ABOUT THIS. 
          I DO STILL THINK WE NEED TO SAY IS OUR SENSE THAT WE'D WANNA MOVE CLEARLY BEFORE BUDGET SEASON AND OF A FALL ELECTION. 
          I THINK THAT IS NORMAL FOR PEOPLE, BUT ALSO CUMBERSOME IN ITS OWN WAY. 
          BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE HAVING AN ELECTION WHILE THERE'S AN ELECTION, RIGHT. 
          UM, OR HAVING IT AFTER BUDGET SEASON, WHICH I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A LOT BETTER. 
          'CAUSE YOU STILL THEN ASSUME OFFICE WHEN YOU WERE PART OF A BUDGET THAT YOU HAD NO INFLUENCE OVER. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE WE'VE SOLVED ANYTHING IN THAT SCENARIO. 
          SO MY, MY INSTINCT WOULD BE A, TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON THIS AND MAYBE HAVE IT BE A BALLOT INITIATIVE, RIGHT. 
          IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE FOR BALLOT INITIATIVES, YOU GET ENOUGH SIGNATURES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, AND THAT WOULD SHOW THAT THERE'S SOME INTEREST, UH, IN IT. 
          BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE, THE POINT, UM, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WADE IS, IS RAISING AND YOU KNOW, I EXPERIENCED IT NOT THAT LONG AGO. 
          SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO WALK IN AND HAVE TO LEARN THIS. 
          AND I THINK THE ARGUMENT FOR ME WOULD BE LESS ABOUT MY OWN DISCOMFORT AND MORE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT SERVES THE TOWN TO HAVE NEW PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T PART OF THE PROCESS NOW, KIND OF BLINDLY HAVING TO, TO GO ALONG. 
          I I CAN'T BE, UH, AS, UM, CRITICAL, UH, IF I HAVEN'T BEEN AN ACTIVE PART OF IT. 
          SO I ABSOLUTELY SEE THE POINT. 
          I'M JUST, UH, THINK THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD JUST CHOOSE TO DO. 
          I THINK THAT HAS TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC. 
          I THINK IT'S, IT'S JUST, I THINK EVEN IF IT HARMS NO ONE, I THINK IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD IF WE, IF WE DO THIS WITHOUT INVOLVING THE PUBLIC. 
          PROBABLY IN MY INSTINCT WITH A BALLOT INITIATIVE. 
          ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANNA SPEAK AT THIS TIME? MR. MAYOR, CAN I SAY JUST ONE OTHER THING? YES, SIR. 
          UM, THE FLIP SIDE TO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND IT'S A VALID POINT, BUT IF YOU'RE RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE AND YOU WANNA WIN AND YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA WIN, ISN'T IT INCUMBENT UPON THE CANDIDATE TO TRACK THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE ON THE BUDGET SO THAT THERE IS, THERE ARE PREPARED AS POSSIBLE TO ENGAGE IN THE BUDGET BUDGET PROCESS? THAT'S ONE THING THAT I THINK THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE MAKING THIS CHANGE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF HERE. 
          UM, NOT SAYING IT CAN'T BE DONE, BUT JUST, I THINK THAT'S PART OF GETTING PREPARED TO BE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL. 
          IF IT'S IN A BUDGET, YOU, YOU KNOW, TO BUDGET YOU BUDGET TIME, YOU GOTTA BE PREPARED TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. 
          THAT'S ONE THING. 
          AND THAT DIDN'T I, THAT DIDN'T COME FROM ME, THAT CAME FROM SOMEBODY WHO JUST TEXTED ME FROM WITHIN THE TOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THAT. 
          SO, UM, JUST A THOUGHT. 
          YEAH, DID YOU, GO AHEAD. 
          I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, UM, WHEN THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS SWORN IN AS ALSO PART OF THE CHARTER, SO THIS WOULD BE A CHARTER AMENDMENT REGARDLESS OF WHICH PATH WE WOULD TAKE, UM, IF THAT HELPS. 
          WHAT DOES THE CHARTER SAY 
          [01:45:01]
ABOUT WHEN WE GET IN? 'CAUSE WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT CONSISTENT ABOUT WHEN WE GET SWORN IN. 
          IT SAYS THE MAYOR SHALL BE ELECTED FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS. 
          EACH COUNCIL MEMBER ELECTED FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS. 
          THEY SHALL TAKE OFFICE BEFORE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, SUCCEEDING THEIR ELECTION BY TAKING AN OATH BEFORE ANY OFFICER OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU CAN, SO YOU CAN GET SWORN IN ON ANY DAY THAT YOU HAVE A MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU COULD CHANGE THE MEETING DATE. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, OKAY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. 
          UM, IN THE CHARTER, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN HEAR YOU. 
          I THINK IT JUST CAME ON. 
          AND SO, UM, WARD ONE AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BRENER FOR BREAKING THAT UP. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE OF POINTS. 
          ONE, UM, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WADE, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT UP THIS EVENING AND BROUGHT UP BEFORE AND, AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT CONSIDERATION IS AND HOW DO WE WRANGLE THAT. 
          AND I KEEP COMING BACK TO WHAT'S PRACTICAL AND WHAT'S, UM, AND WHAT WORKS WITHIN MULTIPLE SCHEDULES. 
          AND I KEEP COMING BACK TO THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS BEING THE BEST POSSIBLE. 
          UM, IF, IF WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S PRACTICAL TO MOVING TO A FALL ELECTION, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CAMPAIGNING OVER THE SUMMER MONTHS, NOT JUST THE DISCOMFORT OF IT, BUT THAT PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY BUSY AND MORE SCATTERED DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS AND LESS PARTICIPATION. 
          UM, IF, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING AND THAT YOU'RE ALSO MISSING OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY FOR INCOMING COUNCIL MEMBERS OR INCOMING MAYOR TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN MML. 
          SO, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, UM, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STEPPING AWAY FROM THE FIRST MONDAY IN MAY, I KNOW SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE THAT, BUT THERE'S A, A GOOD LEVEL OF, UM, POSITIVE POWER IN COMMUNITIES, MUNICIPALITIES SHARING THAT DATE. 
          AND IT, AND IT'S MORE POTENTIAL FOR THERE TO BE COVERAGE OF, UM, THE ELECTORAL PROCESS WHEN THERE'S, THERE'S MORE HAPPENING ON THAT DATE. 
          AND THAT SPEAKS TO MUNI MUNICIPALITIES AND THE VALUE OF MUNICIPALITIES BY DOING THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN WHEN, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO DELAY THE SWEARING IN, UM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHERE MY HIP BRAIN HAD BEEN GOING FOR SOME TIME, UM, IT REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE THE INHERITING OF THE BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, UH, IT COMES BACK TO WHAT O OTHERS HAVE SAID. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WATCHED FOR ON THE YEARS I WAS IN COUNCIL AND WHEN I WAS MAYOR IS, YOU KNOW, DO PEOPLE SHOW UP? DO PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IF THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE? OR IS IT THAT THEY ONLY SHOW UP ON LIKE TWO MEETINGS BEFORE , YOU KNOW, THE ELECTION? AND, YOU KNOW, AS A RESIDENT, I LOOK FOR THAT AS WELL. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PEOPLE INVESTED ARE PEOPLE INVOLVED. 
          SO I, I HAVE SPENT, UH, A FEW MONTHS, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THIS AND I STILL, I COME BACK TO RETAINING, UM, THE CURRENT SCHEDULE. 
          I ALSO VERY MUCH W WANT, I AM IN FAVOR OF RETAINING THE OFFSET ELECTION OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THE OFFSET OF TERMS OF A MAYOR REMAINING FOR THREE YEARS, COUNCIL MEMBERS REMAINING FOR TWO YEARS. 
          SO THAT IDEALLY YOU ARE VERY RARELY IN THE SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A WHOLESALE TURNOVER, UM, THAT THEN LEAVES YOU WITHOUT ANY INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY OR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, ON A BUDGET. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          GO AHEAD PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU GENEVA. 
          WE ARE RICE WARD SIX. 
          AND JUST SPEAKING AS A VOTER, I THINK WHATEVER I, YOU GUYS ARE ELECTED, WE PUT YOU IN A PLACE OF TRUST, BUT WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT MAKE IT COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY STRUGGLING IN WAR SIX TO GET PEOPLE OUT TO VOTE. 
          AND SO WITH CONSISTENCY, WE ARE STARTING TO GROW, DON'T YOU THINK, AMY? AND SO IF YOU START MOVING IT AROUND THAT YOU ARE GONNA HAVE VOTER TURNOUT ISSUES. 
          AND IF WE WANT THE TOWN TO PARTICIPATE, IT NEEDS TO BE EASIER FOR US AND HARDER FOR YOU GUYS. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S WHY WE PUT YOU IN THERE. 
          OKAY? SO THANK YOU . 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, OKAY, SO COUNCIL MEMBER WADE, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO NOW? DO YOU WANNA PUT THIS ON A FUTURE AGENDA, UH, TO COME BACK TO, DO YOU WANNA, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? UH, MAYBE WE HAVE A PUBLIC, UH, HEARING ABOUT IT SO WE GET MORE INPUT ON IT. 
          CAN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REGARD IT AND THEN GO FROM THERE? YOU CAN DO A, A SPECIAL. 
          [01:50:01]
OKAY. 
          WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, MR. GALLOWAY, YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBER WADE AND NILE, DISCUSS WHEN THAT'S FEASIBLE. 
          YEAH, THAT SOUND GOOD? JUST ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE, I WAS INVOLVED IN SEVERAL OF THE MEETINGS PRIOR TO, I WAS ACTUALLY ON THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, BEFORE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL. 
          UM, AND I ATTENDED SEVERAL WORK SESSIONS, COUNCIL MEETINGS LEADING UP TO AT LEAST ABOUT FIVE OR SIX, UH, ABOUT FOUR MONTHS, FIVE OR SIX MONTHS. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY NAME IS NOW IN THAT, UM, I, I DON'T HAVE FULL INPUT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO DICTATE I'M STILL AN OBSERVER. 
          I'M A REGULAR RESIDENT VERSUS SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY SETTING THAT SEAT TO HAVE THE NAME SIGNED ON THAT BUDGET. 
          IT'S TWO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THAT. 
          SO I CAN ALWAYS LOBBY AND TALK TO MY COUNSELOR AT THE TIME. 
          UM, COUNCILOR LES. 
          BUT, UM, MY FULL INPUT, MY, MY, MY FORESIGHT, MY POLICY INPUT, MY LEVEL OF EXPERTISE, MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, I'M NOT PRIVY TO THE TOWN COUNT, THE TOWN, UH, STAFF TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT IT TO THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS, THE HEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR AS A WHOLE. 
          SO THERE IS A, I DO RESPECT WHAT WAS, UM, UH, WHAT WAS SAID, BUT IT IS A DIFFERENT LEVEL WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN THAT SEAT VERSUS YOU JUST ATTENDING MEETINGS AS A WHOLE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE ON THE AGENDA. 
          THE BOYD PARK RESURFACING PROJECT. 
          UH, THIS IS A CHANGE ORDER REQUEST AND THIS WILL REQUIRE A VOTE OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          CHIEF MORRIS OR MR. GALLOWAY, I'LL TAKE IT OVER. 
          SO, OR MS. PROM. 
          SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS EVENING WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING ONE CHANGE ORDER, UM, JUST DUE TO, UH, THE SURVEY FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE AND THE DESIGN, UM, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING ONE CHANGE ORDER FOR YOU TONIGHT. 
          UM, AND THE AMOUNT OF 17,000, WHAT'S THE EXACT 4 64 17,464. 
          UM, THAT NUMBER IS WELL WITHIN THE BUDGET OF, UH, THE C-D-B-C-D-B-G GRANT. 
          UM, AND WE'VE ALSO GOT TWO OTHER CHANGE ORDERS THAT WERE UNDER THE $10,000 THRESHOLD THAT I WAS ABLE TO UNILATERALLY APPROVE. 
          AND IT STILL FALLS WITHIN, UM, THE BUDGET. 
          WE ARE WELL WITHIN THE BUDGET GUIDELINES. 
          WE JUST NEED, UH, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, GIVING US THE APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND THEN I'LL YIELD TO, UM, MS. PROM TO SEE IF SHE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AND GO INTO MORE DETAIL. 
          WHERE'S THE $17,000 COME FROM? PERFECT QUESTION. 
          SO, UH, WE PUT OUT A SURVEY IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AND RECEIVED OUR RESULTS IN THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD RATHER SEE FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS INSTEAD OF TWO. 
          SO WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND COMPLY WITH THAT. 
          WE ALSO CHOSE SOME DESIGNS THAT HAVE SOME DIFFERENT COLORS IN THEM. 
          SO THE COSTS ARE COMBINATION OF THE ADDITIONAL LABOR AND MATERIALS THAT ARE GOING TO COME FROM PROVIDING THE LOGO LOCATIONS, THE AMOUNT OF PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT WE'LL BE ADDING, THE COLORS THAT WILL COME WITH THEM. 
          SO ALL IN ALL, IT ALL ITEMIZES OUT TO LABOR AND MATERIALS FOR ALL OF THE SPECIFICATIONS AND UPDATES THAT THE COMMUNITY APPROVED THROUGH THE VOTING PROCESS. 
          AND I'LL SAY IT'S, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT THERE WAS SUCH, UM, ENGAGEMENT WITH THIS BECAUSE IT'S BEAUTIFUL COURTS, BEAUTIFUL, UM, ALL THE WAY AROUND. 
          IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, MAYOR, WE'VE HAD OUR FRIEND THAT HAS BEEN CONTACTING US FOR A WHILE ABOUT, UH, THE UPKEEPING MAINTENANCE OF THAT. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE JUST EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. 
          AND THE 17,000 IS REIMBURSABLE. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UM, TOWN TAXPAYER MONEY, RIGHT? NO, IT'S NOT. 
          IT'S FULLY COVERED BY CD BGS ASSIGNMENT FOR THIS GRANT AND SPECIFICALLY THE ALLOCATION AMOUNT FOR THIS COURT. 
          SO ABSOLUTELY FULLY COVERED, NO COST TO THE TOWN. 
          MR. TANZI. 
          JUST, UM, SINCE, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THOSE PICKLEBALL COURTS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, HIGHER DEMAND AT BOYD PARK. 
          JUST THE LATEST IS THAT, UM, THE DELIVERY DATE FOR THE CHURCH IS CURRENTLY SET AS MAY 6TH, 2027. 
          THEY, WE DO HAVE A VERBAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT WE CAN USE THE, UH, THEIR PARKING LOT. 
          UH, WE HAVE NOT WORKED OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA COORDINATE THAT. 
          'CAUSE THE CONCERN, WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS TO ALLOW OVERNIGHT PARKING, WHICH WE JUST SPENT MONEY TO PUT A FENCE IN 
          [01:55:01]
FRONT OF VOID PARK TO NOT HAVE VERBALLY, WE SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD HAVE A SWINGING GATE AND WE COULD HAVE A COPY OF THE KEY AND IF PEOPLE RENT OUT THE PARK OR WHATEVER, THEY CAN PAY A FEE TO, UH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS OR POLICE OR WHOMEVER OPEN AND CLOSE THAT GATE. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON EVERYONE'S RADAR. 
          AND I JUST GOT AN UPDATE, UH, THIS PAST WEEK ON THE DELIVERY DATE FOR THE CHURCH. 
          SO I WANTED TO, TO SHARE THAT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'LL ACTUALLY HIT MAY, WHATEVER. 
          BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW, IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY WELL INTO T-BALL SEASON, WHICH IS WHEN PARKING IS A REAL, UH, DIFFICULTY THERE. 
          BUT, UM, MR. GALLOWAY IS IN ON THOSE EMAILS WITH THE CHURCH, UH, STAFF AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM. 
          SO MAYBE WE'LL SEE IN THE COMING THE NEW YEAR THAT MUCH OF THE CONSTRUCTION'S DONE AND MAYBE THE PARKING LOT CAN BE, UH, MADE AVAILABLE BEFORE THE DELIVERY DAY OF THE CHURCH ITSELF. 
          BUT I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK UP. 
          'CAUSE LAST TIME IT WAS WHEN ME AND MR. GALLAWAY WERE ON SITE AND THEY HADN'T EVEN STARTED CONSTRUCTION. 
          ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THE RESURFACING PLAN FOR BOYD PARK COURTS? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, MR. TANZI, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? OH, I MOVE TO ALLOW, UM, MR. GALLOWAY AND PUBLIC WORKS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE I USE THE PROPER TERM CHANGE ORDER. 
          CHANGE ORDER FOR $17,464 AND 77 CENTS. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FRY. 
          I, IS THERE ANY DEBATE ON THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHANGE ORDER? OKAY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS HANDS. 
          NO, THAT'S FINE. 
          SO FOR FOR PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION, I DO, YES. 
          UM, AND I KNOW I DON'T GET A VOTE, BUT I'LL SAY THIS. 
          I, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MS. PROM FOR DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB OF LEADING, UH, THE, THE COMMUNITY EFFORTS AND ENSURING THAT PEOPLE HAD A VOICE AND THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO SELECT, UH, WHAT COURT THEY HAD. 
          SHE HAS BEEN FANTASTIC THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, AND I THINK THE CHIEF AND I CAN AGREE THAT WE'RE JUST VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER, UH, RUN THESE TYPES OF PROCESSES FOR THE TOWN. 
          SO, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          I'D LIKE TO ASK. 
          WELL SAID, SIR. 
          GO AHEAD, MR. MAYOR. 
          I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR AN INVESTIGATION. 
          I THINK MR. GALLOWAY BROKE INTO MY OFFICE TO STEAL MY NOTES TO COME IN THIS FORM. 
          , UH, ANY FURTHER DEBATE ON COUNCIL MEMBER TANZIS MOTION? HEARING NONE. 
          I'LL CALL THE QUESTION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE CHANGE ORDER, SAY AYE. 
          A AYE, AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSITION? ANY ABSTENTIONS. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          SIX ZERO. 
          THE CHANGE ORDER IS ORDERED. 
          UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM 10, THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT. 
          MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT, CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE A MEETING RIGHT AFTER THIS. 
          JUST A FEW, UH, UPDATES. 
          UH, TODAY, ATTORNEY DELO AND I MET WITH THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS TO DISCUSS THE CANDIDATE PROHIBITION MATTER. 
          UH, THIS MEETING WAS PRODUCTIVE AND ADDITIONAL COORDINATION WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS SO THAT, UM, UH, UM, UH, WE CAN COORDINATE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          THE FIRST READING IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER THE 12TH. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE TOWN NEWSLETTER? MAYOR AND COUNCIL? THE PLATFORM THAT WE PREVIOUSLY USED TO DEVELOP AND PUBLISHED, THE TOWN NEWSLETTER HAS BEEN RETIRED AS A RESULT OF THAT. 
          RETIRING OF THAT SOFTWARE, WE'VE TRANSITIONED TO ADOBE FOR, UH, THE NEWSLETTER PRODUCTION. 
          UM, THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT PROCESS, SO I'M ASKING, UH, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE SOME GRACE AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS. 
          UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE A FEW DAYS LATE ON THIS AS THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW PROCESS. 
          SO, UM, UM, UH, MS. JONES AND I HAVE BEEN, UH, COMMUNICATING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS MOVING FORWARD, BUT, UM, AS SHE WAS IN THE ACTUAL SOFTWARE, UM, LITERALLY THIS WEEK, UM, IT, IT CRASHED AND WE, UM, 
          [02:00:01]
AND, UH, THE SYSTEM RETIRED. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          AND, UM, I'LL KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED. 
          UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I THANK YOU HAVE YOUR TRAVEL AND TRAINING BUDGET, UH, PER THE REQUEST AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          UM, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, AS IT RELATE TO THAT, UH, THE MML CONFERENCE WILL BE COMING UP, SO I WILL ADVISE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT YOUR TRAVEL AND TRAINING BUDGETS ACCORDINGLY AND ADVISE, UH, THE TOWN CLERK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THE MARYLAND MUNICIPAL CONFERENCE. 
          UM, UH, I'LL LET THE CHIEF TAKE THE NEXT ONE. 
          SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SURE IF, UH, SERGEANT VALENCIA AND HIS WIFE KNOW, UH, EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, BUT, UH, THEY GAVE BIRTH TO A BEAUTIFUL BABY GIRL. 
          AND, UH, WE WANT TO CONGRATULATE SERGEANT VALENCIA AND, UH, WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET A LITTLE BIT OF SLEEP, AT LEAST, UH, 30 OR 40 MINUTES A NIGHT, UM, FOR THE NEXT, UH, FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY FOR, UH, FOR VINNY AND HIS WIFE AND, UH, THE BIRTH OF THEIR BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER AND WISH THEM ALL THE BEST. 
          JUST A FEW IMPORTANT DATES FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY TO, UM, UH, KEEP ON YOUR CALENDAR, UH, THE TOWN. 
          WE'RE PLANNING A FALL FESTIVAL FOR NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH. 
          UH, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF TWO TO 5:00 PM UH, WE'RE ENCOURAGING EVERYONE TO COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE. 
          UM, THERE WILL BE FUN FOOD GAMES. 
          UH, THERE WILL BE A BEER GARDEN AND, UH, AND WINE. 
          SO WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO COME OUT, UM, AND, AND ENJOY THE NICE FALL WEATHER ON NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH. 
          UM, AS FAR AS COMMUNITY GIVE BACK DAY, I AM RUNNING AN INITIATIVE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE WHERE EVERY MUNICIPALITY, I'M CHALLENGING EVERY CITY, COUNTY, OR TOWN MANAGER TO, UH, DO A GIVE BACK DAY ON NOVEMBER THE 21ST. 
          SO WE PARTNERED WITH AMAZON AND WE RECEIVED OVER $6,000, UH, FOR TURKEY GIVEAWAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, NOT SAYING THAT ALL THE ENTIRE $6,000 WILL BE USED FOR TURKEYS, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE IDENTIFY FAMILIES THAT NEED, UH, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE FUNDS TO PULL FROM. 
          SO WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF AMAZON'S CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, TOWARDS THAT EVENT. 
          UM, THE CHEVROLET COMMUNITY CENTER WILL BE CLOSED FROM MONDAY, OCTOBER THE 26TH THROUGH SUNDAY, NOVEMBER THE EIGHTH, TO ACCOMMODATE PAINTING TOUCHUPS AND THE INSTALLATION OF NEW BLEACHERS. 
          JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND REMIND YOU ALL THAT DURING THAT TIME, THE GYM WILL BE CLOSED. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS NOW, UM, FOR, OKAY. 
          UH, THE CHIEF AND I AND CORPORAL BECKER HAVE BEEN IN, UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH GEN OPTIC, OUR, OUR AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT PROVIDER. 
          UM, WE ARE, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A CHANCE, UH, AN AGREEMENT COULD BE EXECUTED BEFORE THE NEXT TOWN MEETING. 
          UM, THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN GOING, I THINK, IN A FAVORABLE WAY AND, UM, WE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR DISCUSSIONS. 
          UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT LIGHTING. 
          MS. PROM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT ONE AND THEN I'LL KICK IT TO THE CHIEF FOR THE STATE GR FOR THE STATE GRANT AWARD? ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO WE WERE APPROACHED BY SMART ENERGY SOLUTIONS WHO DID INSTALL LIGHTS AT THE TOWN HALL APPROXIMATELY 10 YEARS AGO TO WORK WITH US AND PARTNER ON A PEPCO REBATE PROGRAM WHERE THEY WILL LOOK AT INSTALLING NEW LIGHTS AT THE TOWN HALL AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR. 
          AT THIS POINT, WE'VE BEEN PRE-APPROVED BY PEPCO FOR APPROXIMATELY $12,000, AND THE PROJECT WILL START AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHILE THEY ASSESS IF THEY CAN COVER MORE COST RELATED TO THE TOWN HALL AND EXTERIOR LIGHT BUILDING. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO COST TO THE TOWN TO MAKE THESE UPDATES, SO WE'LL BE COORDINATING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SCHEDULING THE WORK, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE OVERNIGHTS AND ON WEEKENDS AT THE AVAILABILITY OF THEIR SCHEDULE AND WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM. 
          AND TO CONTINUE ON TO WITH THAT, I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT DARK SKIES COMPLIANT. 
          UH, WE'LL ENSURE THAT, UM, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THAT, UM, WELL, WE KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          [02:05:01]
YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THAT WAS GONNA BE MY, I WAS SIMPLY GONNA ASK IF WE'VE, WELL, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS AFTER WE INSTALL THE NEW LIGHTS CHECK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, MAYBE A WEEK, THREE WEEKS, ET CETERA, LATER, UM, WE ALREADY KNOW FROM THE ELY BUILDING NEIGHBORS THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME CHANGES TO THIS BUILDING, THE ELY BUILDING, UH, EXTERIOR LIGHTS AT SOME POINT NEXT YEAR WHEN WE GET THE UNL. 
          BUT, UM, BUT, UH, SINCE WE CONTROL THE PROPERTY UP THE HILL ALREADY, PLEASE CHECK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, AFTER A FEW WEEKS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW LIGHTS ARE NOT SHINING, POINTING, ET CETERA. 
          THANK YOU TO, UH, THANK YOU MR. GALLOWAY TO CLOSE OUT, UH, THE 10 ADMINISTRATORS REPORT. 
          UH, WE, THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SECURED A, A GRANT FOR OVER $400,000 FOR NEW ENCRYPTED RADIOS. 
          THAT'S BOTH PORTABLE RADIOS AS WELL AS THE MOBILE RADIOS IN THE CAR. 
          UH, I HAVE TO HAND IT TO THE DEPUTY CHIEF. 
          SHE WORKED TIRELESSLY ON THIS. 
          THIS GRANT WAS GENERATED AS A RESULT OF A VIRTUAL CALL, UH, HOSTED BY CONGRESSMAN IVY, UH, DELICATE, UH, IVY AND COUNCILWOMAN IVY OR THE COUNTY COUNCIL, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT SENSITIVE COMMUNITY INTERACTIONS AND SO FORTH. 
          AND, UH, DURING THE COURSE OF THAT CONVERSATION, UH, WE MENTIONED THE PO POTENTIAL FOR ENCRYPTED RADIOS TO ASSIST WITH ADDRESSING THOSE COMMUNICATION CONCERNS AND NEEDS. 
          AND, UH, DELICATE IVY, UH, PULLED A RABBIT OUT OF HIS HAT AND GOT SOME FUNDING MOVED AND CREATED A $6 MILLION GRANT, STATEWIDE GRANT, AND WE SECURED $400,000 OF THAT 6 MILLION. 
          UH, SO WE'VE, THIS GRANT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE TOWN OF CHEVROLET FOR THE NEXT 15 OR 20 YEARS. 
          UM, I, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF GRANT APPLICATIONS. 
          A LOT OF THOSE ARE PRO FORMA. 
          THIS ONE WAS HARDLY PRO FORMA. 
          IT REQUIRED A SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH INTO THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF MULTI KEY ENCRYPTION, LAYER AUTHENTICATION TRUNKING. 
          AND YEAH, I DID THE SAME THING THERE. 
          AND, UH, WORKING WITH FEMA AS WELL AS MEMA TO SECURE THE NECESSARY LANGUAGE, UH, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO EVEN APPLY FOR THIS GRANT, I WILL TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF OUR COLLEAGUES REACHED OUT TO THE DEPUTY CHIEF AND SHE, UH, SAID, WELL, YOU MIGHT WANNA MAKE A PHONE CALL TOO. 
          BUT WE WEREN'T GIVING UP OUR TRADE SECRETS BECAUSE THIS WAS A VERY HIGHLY COMPETITIVE GRANT. 
          SO SHE DID AN, UH, AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED WAS FOR THE FULL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE ASKED FOR, WHICH ALSO IS PHENOMENAL TO, TO SAY THE LEAST. 
          SO, HATS OFF TO THE DEPUTY CHIEF AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION TO GET THESE RADIOS AND, UH, EQUIPMENT AND UPGRADE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THAT'S TOTALLY AWESOME. 
          COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR GETS TOO CLOSE. 
          UH, I'M GONNA, I, I THINK, I THINK WE SAW THIS LAST TIME, BUT, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I'M REPEATING THE QUESTION. 
          THE BATHROOMS FOR THE, THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS FOR THE TRACK, WHERE ARE WE AT AND WHAT IS OUR SHORT TERM AUTUMN PROSPECTS? YES. 
          SO THE, UH, THE MAG LOCKS WERE ON ON OCTOBER 21ST, RANG A A BELL IN MY HEAD. 
          THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING AT MY WATCH. 
          UH, SO THESE, UH, WERE SCHEDULED FOR INSTALL THE, UH, OF COURSE THE BATHROOMS WE TYPICALLY CLOSE DURING THE WINTER MONTHS, BUT AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE THESE, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD. 
          I WILL SHARE WITH MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS. 
          I LOOKED AT IT, I SAID, HOW DIFFICULT CAN IT BE TO REPLACE LOCKS AND HOW COSTLY? AND WHEN I FOUND OUT THE COST, I UNDERSTOOD WHY THE TOWN HELD FIRM, THAT THOSE COSTS SHOULD BE ABSORBED THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE CONTRACT. 
          SO IT'S BEEN, UH, IT'S BEEN A BATTLE ROYALE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE A, I THINK THAT THE TOWN WILL BE PLEASED AND THAT BATHROOMS WILL SECURE PROPERLY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IF I COME DOWN SATURDAY MORNING FOR YOUTH SOCCER, CAN I USE THE 
          [02:10:01]
BATHROOM? SIR? YOU'RE THE MAYOR. 
          WE CAN PRETEND I WASN'T. 
          CLOSE YOUR EYES AND IMAGINE THAT I'M NOT THE MAYOR. 
          I, I, I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY'RE QUITE READY YET. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR? OKAY, I THINK THAT TAKES US TO COUNCIL MEMBER FRY AND COUNCIL MEMBER GARCI REGARDING CSA. 
          UM, AND MR GO AHEAD. 
          WELL, WE'LL START AND THEN MR. CATHERINE MCG ASKED ME TO, UM, YEAH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF UPDATES. 
          I KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON A RESCHEDULE TO MEET WITH MANAGEMENT JUST TO GO OVER SOME BASIC STUFF AND I THINK IT'S BEEN RESCHEDULED. 
          UM, I THINK WE FOR NOVEMBER 17TH YEAH. 
          AT LIKE, I THINK SO FOUR O'CLOCK. 
          YEAH, THERE TWO MEETINGS THAT I THINK THAT WOULD HAPPEN THAT DAY IF THAT HAPPENS, BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO THE DAY FOR THE WSSC MEETING. 
          SO JUST AS AN FYI, YEAH, THAT MORNING IT'S ALSO THE M-N-C-P-P-C TRIAL. 
          I THOUGHT WE'RE ALL GONNA BE UP THERE WATCHING THAT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          BUT YEAH, SO I THINK ASIDE FROM THAT, UM, I DO WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILMAN REGARDS THOUGH, BECAUSE HE, UM, THE THINGS HE BRINGS BEFORE US IS ONLY LIKE ONE, 100TH OF THE THINGS THAT HE DEALS WITH TO TRY TO HELP HIS RESIDENTS AND HELP MY RESIDENTS WHO, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SPEAK SPANISH, SO WHEN I HAVE A SPANISH SPEAKING RESIDENT, HE'S VERY HELPFUL FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND IT'S A TEAM EFFORT, BUT HE REALLY DOES LEAD THE CHURCH. 
          UH, AND, YOU KNOW, HE WORKS HARD AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE GETS, UH, HIS PROPS FOR ALL OF THAT HARD WORK. 
          UM, AND WE APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM OUR TEAM, OUR STAFF, UM, FOR ALL OF OUR WALKS AND STUFF. 
          I GUESS WE PROBABLY SHOULD PLAN ANOTHER ONE, BUT IT'S BEEN KIND OF COLD, SO I'LL TALK TO HIM AND SEE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. 
          'CAUSE WE COULD ALWAYS BUNDLE UP OR SOMETHING. 
          WE'LL SEE. 
          SO NOVEMBER THE 21ST, WE DO INTEND ON HAVING, UM, A TURKEY DRIVE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND HERE, UM, AND ALSO NEXT SATURDAY ON HALLOWEEN, WE WILL BE DOING A TRUNK OR TREAT THERE. 
          THERE ON HALLOWEEN? ON HALLOWEEN, YEAH. 
          FOUR O'CLOCK. 
          OKAY. 
          FOUR O'CLOCK, THREE TO SIX. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          NO, THAT'S INCLUDES FOUR AND . 
          AND WE WILL ALSO BE AT, UH, LEGION PARK. 
          THREE TO SIX FOR LEGION PARK TOO? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          IS THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH CSA OR ARE WE JUST DOING THAT ON OUR OWN? NO, WE'RE GOING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH CSA JUST TO ENSURE, BUT YEAH, WE TYPICALLY DO IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH CSA. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          COOL. 
          THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 
          UM, I'M BEING TOLD BY, UM, THE CLERK, BY THE CLERK THAT IT IS FOUR O'CLOCK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, I, I STAND CORRECTED. 
          UM, AND IT'LL BE IN THE VISITOR PARKING LOT. 
          MS. PROM IS THE, UH, POINT OF, UH, CONTACT FOR THAT EVENT. 
          SO, UM, I WAS LISTENING TO THE POINT, AND THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY . 
          UH, THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ELECTED OFFICIAL VOLUNTEERS. 
          I VOLUNTEERED JOHN AND MYSELF BECAUSE WE'RE BOTH EMPTY NESTERS AND DON'T HAVE KIDS GOING TRICK OR TREATING LATER. 
          SO, UH, I HOPE THAT'S OKAY. 
          HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE BOTH VOLUNTEERING AT ONE OR BOTH OF THE TRUNK OR TREATS. 
          AND I INVITE OUR COLLEAGUES AS YOU'RE ABLE RECOGNIZING YOUR OWN CHILDREN ARE GOING TRICK OR TREATING PROBABLY LATER, UH, TO JOIN US, UH, IN THAT EFFORT ON THE 31ST. 
          GREAT. 
          WERE YOU DONE? COUNCIL MEMBER? OKAY. 
          THE ONLY THINGS I HAVE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 12TH, WHEN NEXT WE MEET, UH, ARE THE CHARTER AMENDMENT, THE FIRST READING OF THE CANADA PROHIBITION AND THEN THE G-I-C-M-O-U. 
          SHALL WE KEEP THEM ON THERE FOR NOW? THE BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE NOVEMBER 12 AGENDA? YES. 
          YES. 
          MAYOR. 
          YES. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. T. 
          YEAH, I WAS HERE SPEAKING FOR YOU. 
          WE'RE WAITING ON, ON RESPONSE FROM COUNSEL ON THE LANGUAGE. 
          I'M HOPING IT WOULD BE RESOLVED BY THEN END. 
          SO I THINK IT'S OKAY TO, TO KEEP IT THERE AND, AND WE CAN GO WITH AS EVENTS UPDATE. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER ID ITEMS FOR THE 12TH THAT I'M NOT TRACKING? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE IS THERE. 
          NOW I WILL REMIND FOLKS WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE IN FIVE MINUTES FOR THE OPEN TO CLOSE, UH, SESSION. 
          BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? SO MOVED. 
          COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI HAS MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, HAS BEEN SECONDED BY THE VICE MAYORS THERE. 
          ANY 
          [02:15:01]
DISCUSSION, HEARING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? IT PASSES SIX ZERO. 
          THANK YOU.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.