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FIVE SAID HE

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WOULD BE VIRTUAL.

MR. GARCE, ARE YOU OUT THERE?

[*This meeting is joined in progress.*]

[Work Session on October 1, 2026. ]

OKAY.

WARD SIX.

COUNCIL MEMBER FRY ALSO SAID THAT SHE WOULD BE VIRTUAL PRESENT.

OKAY, GOOD.

SHE IS HERE.

SO SEEING FIVE ELECTED OFFICIALS BEING PRESENT, A QUORUM SUFFICIENT TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IS PRESENT.

AND THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND SUE THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HUGE THANKS TO THE STAFF FOR ARRANGING THIS NEW WORK SESSION FORMAT.

SO BEAR WITH US WHILE WE WORK OUT THE CAMERAS AND THE MICROPHONES.

BUT I THINK LONG TERM, UH, THIS IS GONNA SERVE US A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR WORK SESSIONS, UH, FOR INFORMAL DIALOGUE, ET CETERA.

UH, COUNSEL, THE, I HAVE TWO ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA.

THE FIRST ONE IS ATTEND B, JUST TO DISCUSS FUTURE AGENDAS.

UH, WE LEFT THAT OFF, THIS ONE.

SO 10 B AFTER WE GET THE UPDATE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER FRY AND COUNCIL MEMBER GARIS REGARDING CH STATION DEPARTMENTS.

UH, WE'LL QUICKLY DISCUSS OUR FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE AND AGENDAS.

AND THEN I WOULD LIKE YOUR INDULGENCE TO CREATE A FOUR B AFTER THE TWO GRANT REQUESTS FOR A FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION FROM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, THERE ARE SEVERAL AWARDS THAT ARE TOWN INSTALLATIONS HAVE RECEIVED, AND THEN EVEN MORE AWARDS THAT WE WON'T DISCUSS TONIGHT THAT PRIVATE PROPERTIES IN TOWN RECEIVED FOR THEIR BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS.

UH, WITH THOSE TWO ADDITIONS, UM, MADAM CLERK, IS THERE ANY OTHER ADDITION THAT I FORGOT? OKAY, COUNSEL WITH THOSE TWO ADDITIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WADE AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ALECK.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING KNOWN? NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? IT PASSES FOUR ZERO ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA.

SURE.

WE'LL WAIT.

WE ARE, THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE CHEVROLET VILLAGE GRANT REQUEST.

RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

ALRIGHT, SHALL WE PROCEED? ALRIGHT, LET US PROCEED TO THE, THERE'S TWO GRANT REQUESTS THAT WE'LL CONSIDER TONIGHT, UH, AND THAT WE WILL VOTE ON NEXT THURSDAY, THE EIGHTH AT THE TOWN MEETING.

THE FIRST OF THOSE IS THE CH VILLAGE GRANT REQUEST.

MADAME CLERK, ARE YOU PRESENTING THIS ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR? UH, BE ONLINE.

THEY'RE ON, IS ANYONE FROM THE VILLAGE ONLINE OR WOULD ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE REPRESENTING THE VILLAGE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THE MICROPHONE REGARDING THE GRANT REQUEST PROGRESS? UH, IF YOU ARE ONLINE AND WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT

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THE VILLAGE GRANT REQUEST, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE IN ZOOM.

HELLO? YES, GO AHEAD.

HELLO, MY NAME IS RUDY GULICK.

I'M FROM C VILLAGE, A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.

AND, UH, JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO THE TOWN FOR THE GRANT THEY GAVE US LAST YEAR.

WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE, UH, FIELD TRIPS WITH AN ACCESSIBLE VAN, WHICH MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR MORE OF OUR MEMBERS TO ATTEND.

AND ALSO CHEVROLET RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT MEMBERS TO JOIN US AND INTERACT WITH OUR MEMBERS.

WE HAVE, UH, REQUESTED, UH, $2,000 TO MAKE THREE TRIPS THIS YEAR, SINCE WE'RE GETTING A LATE START IN THE FISCAL YEAR.

UH, AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE 14 TO 18 PEOPLE ON AN ACCESSIBLE VAN THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RENT FROM THE, UH, JEWISH COUNCIL ON AGING FOR A REDUCED RATE.

AND, UH, AGAIN, IT ALLOWS OUR MEMBERS TO HAVE EASE OF TRANSPORTATION, TO SEE MUSEUMS, ART GALLERIES, UH, THE NATIONAL GEO GEOGRAPHIC MUSEUM, THE CLARICE CENTER, UM, WITHOUT A HASSLE OF HAVING TO WALK FROM PARKING LOTS.

ALSO, SOME OF OUR FOLKS, UH, HAVE, UH, MOBILITY ISSUES WITH, UH, WALKERS AND WHEELCHAIRS.

THE VAN IS ABLE TO ACCEPT ALL OF THEM, SO I, UH, RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE APPROVE OUR GRANT SO WE CAN PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL AND SOCIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR MEMBERS.

THANK YOU MR. GOLLICK.

UH, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GOLIC, WHO IS A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF WARD 'EM? YES, I HAVE ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION.

UH, WE SUBMITTED OUR GRANT REQUE OUR GRANT REPORT FROM LAST YEAR'S GRANT, AND WE HAD SOME LEFTOVER FUNDS AND IN OUR REPORT, OUR PRESIDENT ASKED THAT WE USE THOSE LEFTOVER FUNDS TO POSSIBLY SUBSIDIZE, UH, MEMBERSHIPS.

AND, UH, I'M WONDERING WHETHER WE WILL GET A RESPONSE TO THAT REQUEST.

YES, WE CAN HAVE THE, I WILL ASK THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR TO GET BACK TO YOU, MR. GOLLICK, ON THAT REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST.

I, ALRIGHT, GREAT.

AND THAT, GO AHEAD.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

AND THAT WILL GO TO OUR PRESIDENT, RENATA RAMEL, UH, WHOSE INFORMATION IS ON THE, UH, UH, GRANT REPORT.

EXCELLENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, COUNSEL.

OH, MR. WADE, YOU, YOU WANTED TO COMMENT? JUST A COMMENT, NOT A QUESTION.

UM, JUST WANTED TO, UM, THANK, UH, THE SHELBY VILLAGE FOR, UH, WHAT THEY DO.

I JUST RECENTLY HAD A NEXTDOOR, A NEIGHBOR CLOSE TO ME WHO IS LIKE A, UH, FATHER FIGURE TO ME, UM, UM, JUST EXPRESS HIS LEVEL OF BEING RETIRED AND AT HOME AND FUNNY AVENUES, UM, FOR HIM TO GET OUTTA THE HOUSE.

AND OF COURSE I REACHED OUT TO, UM, LAYLA AND SHE JUST, UH, WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT JUST REMINDING ME OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THE SHELBY VILLAGE DOES.

SO, UM, I DO UNDERSTAND FULLY THE IMPACT OF WHAT THAT DOES FOR OUR, UM, GOLDEN AGE NEIGHBORS.

AND, UM, SO, UM, THIS, I LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING ON THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST.

AGAIN, I YIELD BACK.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VILLAGE GRANT REQUEST? HEARING NONE, WE'LL PUT THE VILLAGE GRANT REQUEST ON THE OCTOBER MY HAND IS UP THERE.

HELLO? OH, YES, SORRY, I CAN'T SEE YOUR HAND.

GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, SORRY, THERE'S AN ECHO, BUT, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE EVENTS THAT THE VILLAGE DOES, HAVING SERVED ON THE EVENTS COMMITTEE, UM, I KNOW HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT THEY PUT INTO REALLY TRYING TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF EV EVENTS THAT THEY HOLD AND HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ENGAGES THE FULL MEMBERSHIP, UM, AND ALL THE VARIOUS NEEDS, UM, FOR EACH PERSON.

SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT LAST YEAR WAS, UM, SUCH A SUCCESS THAT THEY'RE BACK AGAIN FOR, UM, TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO THIS YEAR.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE MEMBERS, NOT JUST ON THE EVENTS C UH, COMMITTEE, BUT THE OTHER MEMBERS AS WELL, UM, FOR JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY, UM, ARE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT, UM, THE, THE COMMUNITY AND THE SOCIAL ASPECT, BECAUSE I THINK WE SEE THAT THAT'S, UM, I THINK THEY, AND IN SOME ARTICLE IT WAS SAYING IT'S HOW IT'S KIND OF LIKE A HEALTH CRISIS.

UM, AND SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE VERY MINDFUL OF, NOT JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR SENIORS, BUT JUST IN GENERAL IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO

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SAY I'M VERY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.

ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO THE CPR CHEVROLET PARENT RESOURCE COMMITTEE CENTER.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S, UH, IS MS. MINTY WADE ONLINE? YES.

GOOD EVENING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT OUR GRANT REQUEST ON BEHALF OF CPRC.

UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE CONTINUED SUPPORT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, UM, WITH THIS INITIATIVE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR EVENTS THAT CPRC DOES IN THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE BACK TO OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS.

WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SEVERAL SCHOOLS IN THE AREA, GLADYS KNOWN SPELMAN, ROBERT GRAY, AS WELL AS BLADENSBURG ELEMENTARY.

AND THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP, EVERY THANKSGIVING WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, GIFT CARDS TO ALLOW FAMILIES THE DIGNITY TO ACTUALLY, UM, PURCHASE FOOD AND HAVE, UM, THANKSGIVING CELEBRATION.

UM, THE SCHOOLS HAVE, UM, ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS EFFORT.

THEY ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO IT, AND WE'VE ALWAYS SUPPLEMENTED THE AMAZING, UM, GRANT, UH, WE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNCIL WITH OUR OWN FUNDRAISING.

SO OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN VERY COMMITTED AND PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS EFFORT.

WE ALSO RUN A FUND, UH, FUNDRAISING EFFORT, AND LAST YEAR WE PROVIDED OVER $4,000 IN, UM, GIFT CARDS TO THESE, UM, THREE SCHOOLS.

IN ADDITION, WE ALSO PROVIDED A TREAT FOR THE TEACHERS WHO ALSO, UH, WORK WITH OUR STUDENTS YEAR ROUND.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT AND EVERY YEAR LOOK FORWARD TO.

SO, UM, WE RESPECTFULLY RE REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER, UM, FUNDING OUR GRANT REQUEST THIS YEAR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

HEARING NONE, WE'LL PUT THE CPRC GRANT REQUEST ON THE OCTOBER EIGHT TOWN MEETING AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR B.

THE PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE IS THE CHAIRMAN HERE.

PLEASE GRAB THE MICROPHONE AND, UH, TELL US ABOUT THE AWARDS PROGRAM.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS DAVE K KNIGHT WARD THREE, AND I'M ALSO, ONE OF THE MANY HATS I WEAR IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE.

LAST NIGHT WAS OUR ANNUAL AWARD CEREMONY.

UH, THE TOWN OF CH RECEIVED A FEW AWARDS AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE REPRESENTATIVES OF CHEVROLET PUBLIC WORKS IF THEY COULD COME UP, PLEASE.

THIS IS A GOLDEN TRIAL REPRESENTING THE WORK DONE AT THE KILMER STREET PARK IN ARBORETUM OVER THE COURSE OF SIX YEARS.

THE INITIALLY, UM, THE INITIAL AWARD IS YEAR ONE, AND THEN YEARS TWO THROUGH SIX ARE SUPERIOR SUSTAINED MAINTENANCE.

AND THEN YOU CYCLE OUT OF THE PROGRAM WITH YOUR FINAL AWARD BEING A GOLDEN TR THIS JOINS THE, UM, PINKIES PARK, GOLDEN TR AND THE CHEVROLET, UM, COMMUNITY VEGETABLE GARDENS.

GOLDEN TR SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE.

YEAH, THERE'S MORE .

YEAH.

THE OTHERS ARE JUST, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE FINAL AWARD, UM, AWARD.

YOU OR THE TOWN ALSO HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR THE WORK AT THE CHEVROLET POLICE STATION AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, NATIVE BEDS IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

THESE WERE PLANTED AND ESTABLISHED BY THE COMMUNITY NATIVE PLANTING PROJECT, AND I THINK IT'S BEING MAINTAINED BY PUBLIC WORKS, SO THANK YOU.

SURE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE LAST THING, THAT FORMER COUNCILWOMAN MAR LEE NETTLE SIMPSON WAS AT THE AWARD CEREMONY LAST NIGHT.

UH, SHE RECEIVED THE, UM, COUNTY'S YARD OF THE YEAR AWARD, UH, WHICH COMES WITH A A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UH, GIFT CERTIFICATE FROM PATUXENT NURSERIES.

AND THERE ARE FIVE, UM, YARD FIVE RESIDENCES IN THE TOWN OF CHEVROLET THAT HAVE ALSO RECEIVED THE COUNTY RECOGNITION OF YARD OF THE YEAR.

SO I'LL ELABORATE THAT NEXT TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. K.

KEEP IN MIND THIS IS A COUNTY WITH OVER A HUNDRED

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THOUSAND YARDS.

SO IT'S PRETTY AMAZING THAT, UH, SHE WON THAT, UH, SHE WON THAT AWARD.

AND LET ME JUST UNDERSCORE SCORE THAT THE, THESE AWARD, NO, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE THREE AWARDS WOULD'VE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT COMMUNITY NATIVE PLANTING PROJECT AND THEIR HARD WORK.

SO IT REALLY IS A GREAT, ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF VOLUNTEERS PARTNERING WITH THE TOWN AND THE TOWN, BRINGING ITS UNIQUE RESOURCES TO THE TABLE TO EMPOWER THE VOLUNTEERS TO FRANKLY DO MOST OF THE WORK AND SEE THE PROJECT, UH, THE PROJECTS THROUGH TO COMPLETION.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN TO CNPP.

LET'S GO ON NOW TO ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS THE 64TH AVENUE BRIDGE, UH, AND THE, UH, PROPOSAL FROM BENGAL ENGINEERING.

MS. PROM, IS THIS YOU OR BENGAL'S GOING TO PRESENT? OKAY, GOOD EVENING COUNSEL MEMBERS.

UM, I'M SUE BRA DAS FROM BENGAL ENGINEERS.

I'M THE PRINCIPAL AND, UH, , HE'S A SENIOR BRIDGE ENGINEER, SENIOR PM WE ARE ASSISTING THE TOWN WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THIS PROJECT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE SLIDES.

YES, PLEASE.

OKAY.

UH, CAN EVERYONE SEE THE SLIDES? YES.

OKAY.

UM, THIS IS THE BRIDGE REHABILITATION, UH, PROJECT FOR THE 64TH AVENUE BRIDGE CROSSING OVER KEVIN BRANCH, UM, MYSELF, AND SOLUTION RN.

HE'S A SENIOR BRIDGE ENGINEER.

UH, WE WILL GO OVER THE TASK ONE AND TASK TWO, UM, LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND ABOUT THE PROJECT AND, UH, AND WE WILL CONCLUDE THAT.

SO I WILL HAND OVER, UH, THE MIC TO ESH.

HE WILL, UM, GO OVER THE REMAINING SLIDES.

SO LET'S SEE.

OKAY.

UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

LET ME, UH, GIVE YOU A BRIEF, UH, BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS, UH, PROJECT.

UH, THIS BRIDGE WAS BUILT IN 1980, UH, WHICH IS A SINGLE SPAN, UH, CONCRETE BRIDGE, UH, WITH, UH, ABUTMENTS AND, UM, UH, LIKE CABIN BRANCH CREEK, WHICH IS CROSSING THIS BRIDGE.

AND, UM, IN 1996, THIS, UH, UH, BRIDGE, UH, HAD A MAJOR REHABILITATION WORK DONE, UH, WHERE THEY REPLACED, UH, THIS WITH A CONCRETE BRIDGE DECK, UH, WITH AN ASPHALT WEARING SURFACE.

UM, THIS BRIDGE WAS INSPECTED BY CENTI BALLARD, UH, COMPANY AND, UH, UH, THE, AND THEY, UH, PREPARED THE BRIDGE INSPECTION REPORT, UH, TO PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION ON JUNE 22ND, 2023.

SO THIS REPORT IDENTIFIED AREAS OF CONCERN AND, AND, UH, CITED NO STRUCTURAL FAILURES AT THIS PRESENT MOMENT.

SO THE TYPICAL LIFESPAN OF THIS TYPE OF, UH, BRIDGE IS AROUND 50 YEARS WITH THE SUGGESTED MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE OF EVERY FIVE YEARS, UH, DUE TO THE LOCATION OF THE BRIDGE OR CABIN BRANCH, THESE MAINTENANCE ITEMS ARE, UH, VERY CRITICAL TO THE SAFETY AND LONGEVITY OF THIS BRIDGE.

UH, WITHOUT ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, THE BRIDGE, UH, DETERIORATION RATE WILL ACCELERATE.

UH, SO WE NEED TO, UH, PERFORM THIS, UH, MAINTENANCE, UH, AND REHABILITATION WORK.

THE PROPOSED WORK WILL EXTEND THE BRIDGE LIFESPAN BY APPROXIMATELY 30 MORE YEARS AND ABOUT 10 YEARS BEYOND ITS CURRENT EXPECTED LIFESPAN.

SO LET ME GO OVER WITH THE TASK ORDER.

UM, UH, ONE, UM, AND, UH, WE WERE, UH, UM, UH, WE, WE WERE HIRED BY THE TOWN OF CH TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

AS A PART OF THAT, WE PERFORMED THE REVIEW OF THE BRIDGE INSPECTION REPORT AND IDENTIFIED THE AREAS OF CONCERN.

SO HERE IN THIS BRIDGE INSPECTION REPORT, THERE WERE, UH, TWO MAJOR TWO, UM, UH, CATEGORIES.

ONE, WHICH IS AN IMMEDIATE NEED OF REPAIR OR REHABILITATION.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.

SO AS PART OF THE, UH, IMMEDIATE NEED OF REPAIR OR REHABILITATION, THERE WERE, UH, UH, THREE, UH, THREE ITEMS. ONE

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IS TO ADD A WATERPROOFING MEMBRANE TO THE BRIDGE DECK SLAB AND REPAVE THE BRIDGE DECK TO INCREASE THE LIFESPAN OF THE BRIDGE DECK.

UH, TWO, TO UPGRADE THE OUTDATED GUARD RAIL TRAFFIC BARRIER FEATURES TO INCREASE THE SAFETY OF THE TRAVELING PUBLIC.

AND THEN THE, THE, THE OTHER, UH, UH, ISSUE WAS THEY TO PROTECT THE ABUTMENTS AGAINST THE SCOUR BY INSTALLING RIPRAP AND REPAIR THE GA GAON BASKET.

SO, AS A ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, THERE IS, THERE'S A NEED OF TO REPAIR THE CHAIN LINK FENCE AND SEAL THE CRACKS IN THE ASPHALT PAYMENT APPROACHES.

SO, UH, UH, AS PART OF THIS, UH, REPORT, UH, WE CONDUCTED A SITE VISIT WITH THE TOWN STAFF AND PERFORMED A REVIEW OF THE CRITICAL REPAIR ITEMS AND THE, UH, ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ITEMS TO, UM, AND TO SATISFY THE APPLICABLE STATE COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS.

AND, UM, WE COORDINATED, UH, WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION, UM, WITH THE, UH, BRIDGE ENGINEER, UH, BRIDGE DESIGN PROJECT MANAGER, MR. SENECA TULIA, TO GIVE US A LIST OF APPROVED CONTRACTORS, WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN USING IN, UH, PERFORMING ANY REHABILITATION WORK FOR BRIDGES AND PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.

AND HE PROVIDED A LIST, UH, OF ALL THE CONTRACTORS, UM, UH, FOR WHOM WE HAD SENT OUT THE, UM, THE YEAH, CONTRACT TO THE BIDS.

SO WE, AS A PART OF THIS THING, WE PREPARED THE SPECIFICATIONS AND COST ESTIMATES AND ISSUED THE PROJECT FOR CONTRACTOR BIDS.

WE REVIEWED THE, SUBMITTED THE CONTRACTOR FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROJECT REQUIREMENTS, AND WE PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN STAFF TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE CONTRACTOR.

PIONEER CONTRACTING COMPANY, INCORPORATED FOR $99,240,000.

THEY WERE THE LOWEST BID PIONEER CONTRACTING COMPANY WAS THE LOWEST BID.

AND OKAY, SO NOW WE HAVE, UH, LIKE, UH, WE HAVE COMPLETED THE TASK ORDER ONE.

SO WE ARE, UH, NOW, UH, NOW WE HAVE GOT, UM, THE TASK ORDER TWO THAT WILL BE COMING UP, UH, SHORTLY.

SO BASED ON THAT, UH, BENGAL ENGINEERS WILL EXECUTE THE FOLLOWING WORK IN THE TASK ORDER TOO.

WE'LL OBSERVE THE CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS AND TRACK COMPLETION TIMELINE ADDRESS AND RECOMMEND ANY RESOLUTION OF, UH, THE ISSUES IN THE FIELD.

WE WILL PERFORM A PUNCH LIST AND FINAL INSPECTION OF THE PROJECT.

WE'LL CERTIFY THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE PER SPECIFICATIONS AND RECOMMEND FOR FINAL PAYMENT.

NOW THE CONSTRUCTION IS PLANNED TO START IN MARCH OF 2027 WITH THE APPROXIMATELY 90 DAYS OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, UNDER FAVORABLE WEATHER CONDITIONS.

NOW, PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE ACCESS WILL BE LIMITED, BUT AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.

SO THIS IS, UM, THE PART OF OUR PRESENTATIONS AND, UM, I OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, MS. PROM, ANYTHING AT THIS TIME? UM, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU BOTH SUBRA AND RESH FOR GIVING US SOME INFORMATION.

MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT OR QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'LL START WITH, I'LL START WITH ONE QUESTION.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL START WITH ONE AND THEN TURN TO, UH, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN, UM, ANY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DETERIORATION OF THE BRIDGE AND THE, THE, THE STREAM CABIN BRANCH? IS, IS THE, IS THE WATERWAY CONTRIBUTING AT ALL TO THE DETERIORATION OF THE BRIDGE? UH, YES, BECAUSE, UM, UM, THE, THE, THE BRIDGE IS A SINGLE SPAN BRIDGE WITH TWO ABUTMENTS.

AND, UH, IT HAS BEEN NOTED, UH, DURING INSPECTION AND ALSO DURING OUR FIELD VISITS THAT THERE IS SOME SCOUR HAPPENING TO THE SOUTH ABUTMENT.

SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY, UH, WE ARE GOING TO ADD RIP TRAP TO THIS ABUTMENT AND ALSO REPAIR THE TO NCE SO THAT THAT WILL PROTECT THE, UH, ABUTMENT FROM COVER.

SO THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, ITEMS IN THE KEY AREAS OF CONCERN.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COUNSEL.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BENGAL MR. TANZI, WARD FOUR.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, DAVID TANZI, UM, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT TASK ORDER ONE WAS AND WHAT'S INCLUDED IN TASK ORDER TWO.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE, THE SCOPE OF WORK.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY YOU SAY EXTENDING IT 10 YEARS BEYOND ITS EXPECTED LIFESPAN.

DID THAT

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START IN 1980 OR IN 1996, UH, WHEN THE CONCRETE WAS SLAB WAS REPLACED? YEAH, I WANT, I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTED LIFESPAN WOULD BE AFTER THIS WORK.

YEAH, SO I MEAN, LIKE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BRIDGE DECK THAT HAS BEEN REPLACED IN 1996.

AND WE, AND, UH, AS A PART OF THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION WE WOULD BE, UH, ADDING A WATERPROOF MEMBRANE TO THE BRIDGE DECK THAT WILL, UH, UH, PROTECT THE BRIDGE FROM MANY CORROSION FROM SALT THAT COMES ON TO THE BRIDGE DECK.

AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE EXPECTING THAT WOOD DOING THIS.

UM, ADDING A WATERPROOF MEMBRANE TO THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE DECK WILL INCREASE THE LIFESPAN OF THE BRIDGE DECK FOR ANOTHER 10 MORE YEARS.

UNTIL WHEN? 10 YEARS FROM NOW? NO, NO, FOR TOTAL IT IS APPROXIMATELY WE WOULD, UH, UH, I EXPECT FOR ANOTHER 40 YEARS, 30 YEARS IS A LIFESPAN, BUT WE ADD ANOTHER 10 MORE YEARS TO THIS.

OKAY.

BUT FROM NOW, 1996.

SO 2066? NO, YOU MEAN FROM TODAY, FROM 1996.

SO 50 YEARS.

SO FROM NOW TO 40, CAN I JUST STEP IN AND GIVE A LITTLE INSISTENCE ON THIS ITEM? 2036? SO AT THIS POINT, THE TYPICAL LIFESPAN OF THIS TYPE OF BRIDGE IS A 50 YEAR LIFESPAN.

WE REPLACED THE BRIDGE WITH THE REM WITH THE PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED ITEM IN 96.

WE'RE CURRENTLY AT YEAR 30.

SO WITH THE UPDATES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING, IT'LL ADD AN ADDITIONAL 30 YEARS, WHICH WOULD GIVE US ANOTHER 10 OVER THE 50 YEAR LIFESPAN THAT THESE TYPES OF BRIDGES TYPICALLY HAVE.

AND SO I THINK THEY SAID, SORRY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THE YEAR.

SO WHAT DO WE CALL IN THE END OF LIFE FOR THIS THING? OKAY, SO END OF LIFE IS 50 YEARS.

SO 96 50 46.

46.

YEAH.

THAT'S 1946.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THEY SAID 1936, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE, SORRY.

NOT 19, 20 46.

YES.

BACK IN THE DAY.

UM, SO CAN 20, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? UH, 2046? YEAH.

24 6.

OKAY.

SO FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WE GET 20 MORE, 20 MORE GET YEARS, WE GET 20 YEARS OF A GOOD BRIDGE DECK.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, BECAUSE IT IS WATERPROOF, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT PROTECTS THE, UH, BRIDGE ITSELF.

I CAN'T IMAGINE DRAINAGE IS A HUGE ISSUE SINCE IT'S OVER A CREEK.

BUT, UH, DOES THAT AFFECT, UH, DRAINAGE OR FLOODING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? BECAUSE WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES NOW AT THAT BRIDGE, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT PROTECTING THE BRIDGE TO SPITE THE FLOODING.

UM, NO, BECAUSE THE, WE ARE ADDING ONLY A WATERPROOF MEMBRANE TO THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE DECK.

OKAY.

AND ALL LAYING WITH ASPHALT, WE ARE NOT, UH, CONSTRICTING ANY OF THE WATER FLOW BELOW THE BRIDGE.

OKAY.

BUT THE FLOW OFF OF THE BRIDGE SHOULD STILL BE PROPER THAT THIS, THIS WILL, YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I JUST WILL ADD ONE THING.

IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION.

I'M GLAD YOU SPOKE TO, UH, LIMITED VEHICLE TRAFFIC.

THAT IS THE PRIMARY EGRESS FOR THAT PART OF TOWN.

SO IT, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THERE IS A VERY CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND PLAN.

LIKE IF YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING, YOU KNOW, ONE CAR, UH, THROUGH AT A TIME, YOU KNOW, ONE DIRECTION THROUGH AT A TIME OR, OR WHATEVER, THERE NEEDS TO BE PLANNING.

'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE PULLING IN THERE FROM A SUBSTANTIAL ROAD AND THEY'RE COMING OUT AND THEY'RE, THEY CAN TECHNICALLY GO OUT THE BACK, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE THEM TO THE SAME PLACE.

SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY REAL REROUTING AND WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT VERY EARLY TO THE COMMUNITY SO PEOPLE CAN START MAKING PLANS AS MUCH AS AS POSSIBLE.

YEAH.

UH, BECAUSE, UM, WE WILL NOT BE CLOSING THE BRIDGE, UH, UH, UH, ONE LANE WILL BE OPENED AT ALL GIVEN TIMES.

OKAY.

I THINK, UM, IN ADDITION, I WILL JUST ADD OR UNDERSCORE THAT IN ADDITION TO THE BEING HAVING APPROXIMATELY 50 HOMES THERE, THE POPULATION OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DOUBLES IF THERE'S A T-BALL GAME OR SOME OTHER INTENSE USAGE OF THE PARK.

AND SO IT BECOMES, GOES FROM A HUNDRED, ROUGHLY A HUNDRED INDIVIDUALS TO 200 INDIVIDUALS FOR THOSE FEW HOURS.

AND SO WE JUST NEED TO PLAN VERY CAREFULLY, UH, WITH MR. CHIEF MORRIS, DIRECTOR MORRIS AND HIS STAFF, UM, FOR THE TIMING.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

WADE, DID YOU HAVE A POINT? YEAH.

NUMBER ONE, IS THIS DENNIS OF DRAFT? IS THIS WITHIN OUR CURRENT BUDGET? UM, WAS

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THIS AN ADD-ON TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET? AND THEN IT SAYS EVERY FIVE YEARS, UH, MAINTENANCE IS THE 99,000 PART OF THE, UM, MAINTENANCE FOR THOSE FIVE YEARS IS, IF NOT, WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL AVERAGE, THE ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL CHARGE FOR THE MAINTENANCE EVERY FIVE YEARS, UM, THAT FEEL LIKE, UH, BASED ON THE INSPECTION OF THE BRIDGES.

SO THAT IS WHERE THESE REPORTS WILL BE GENERATED AND IT'LL IDENTIFY WHICH ARE THE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND SO THAT IS WHERE, UM, UM, THERE IS, UH, UM, ONCE IN FIVE YEARS, UH, WE, UH, WE CAN LOOK AT, UH, THE ITEMS THAT COME OUT OF THIS BRIDGE INSPECTION REPORTS AND IDENTIFY THOSE ITEMS FOR, UH, ANY OF THIS REHABILITATION OR MAINTENANCE OF THIS BRIDGE.

AND JUST TO, I THINK I, I I, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD THAT THIS IS A MAJOR REHABILITATION.

SO WITH THESE REHABILITATIONS, THE, THE LIFESPAN AND THE MAINTENANCE WILL BE, UM, UH, WILL BE MINIMIZED BECAUSE SINCE THE BRIDGE WAS CONSTRUCTED, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, UM, SUCH A MAJOR REHABILITATION IS HAPPENING.

SO I, SO THIS WILL DEFINITELY, UM, HELP REDUCING ANY, MINIMIZING THE MAINTENANCE ONCE THIS WORK IS DONE.

REGARDING THE BUDGET QUESTION THAT YOU HAD ASKED, COUNCIL MEMBER WADE, UM, WE'VE IDENTIFIED HUR FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH THE TOWN RECEIVES ANNUALLY.

THE AMOUNT OF HUR FUNDING THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS APPROXIMATELY $358,000.

SO THIS IS JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THAT AND WE CAN USE THE REST OF IT FOR OTHER PROJECTS IN TOWN.

THANK YOU.

AND I GUESS THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, UH, IS IN THE PAST, WHAT DO YOU SEE? JUST FORECASTING WHAT THE MAINTENANCE WITH OTHER BRIDGES TO THIS SIZE, DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER, A GENERAL NUMBER OF WHAT THE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE FOR FIVE YEARS, HOW MUCH THAT WILL COST? JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT THIS IS, THIS IS SUCH A SMALL BREACH.

RIGHT.

SO SEE, SEE, LIKE, UM, THE, THE MAJOR CONS, UH, THE MAJOR, UH, ITEMS THAT WE ARE GOING TO UPGRADE OR, UH, DO RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LIKE ALMOST 70% OF THE PRESENT COST OF THE, UH, BUDGET THAT WE HAVE GOT ARE THE, THE COST PROPOSAL.

SO AFTER THAT IS DONE, THIS, THE SAFETY ISSUE OF THAT BRIDGE IS ALREADY ADDRESSED.

MM-HMM.

IT'S ONLY THAT IF THERE IS SOME ISSUE WITH THE APARTMENTS COVER, THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED ONLY.

SO THERE WILL NOT BE MUCH OF A REPETITIVE, UM, UM, COST LIKE THE ONE THAT WE HAVE GOT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE ADDRESSING THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE DECK.

YEAH.

UH, TO PREVENT ANY FURTHER DETERIORATION OF THE DECK.

AND ALSO UPGRADING THE, UH, GUARDRAIL WILL, UH, WILL BE DONE.

AND SO THERE IS NO NEED TO UPGRADE IT OR, OR FIVE YEARS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT IS ALSO TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW.

SO THE COST WISE, THE COST BREAKDOWN IS NOT HERE, BUT THE COST BREAKDOWN WISE, THE MOST, UH, COSTLY PART IS THE MEMBRANE.

SO THAT IS THE MOST COSTLY PART.

UM, SECOND MOST COSTLY ITEM IS THE GUARDRAIL.

SO THOSE ARE THE MOST, TWO MOST COSTLY, THE GIAN THAT IS VERY MINIMUM COST.

SO, UH, FOR THE REST OF THE LIFESPAN OF THIS, UH, BRIDGE, ONCE THE MEMBRANE IS REPLACED AND THE CORD IS REPLACED, UH, WE DO NOT FORESEE ANY MAJOR REHABILITATION THAT WILL BE NEEDED.

OF COURSE, IT'LL BE, UH, DETERMINED BY THE REGULAR, UM, BRIDGE INSPECTION CONSULTANT FROM THE COUNTY.

UM, BUT WE DO NOT FORESEE ANY MAJOR REHABILITATION AFTER THIS, UM, OTHER THAN THE YEAH.

APARTMENTS, RIGHT? THE A SCOURS SC THAT WOULD BE THE, YEAH.

OKAY.

I THINK WE WOULD LIKE, UM, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE TO DIRECT ACTING DIRECTOR MORRIS, AND HE CAN PROVIDE TO US, UM, A DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AND MAYBE THE FULL COUNCIL.

UM, COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY INPUT, UH, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO OFFER ON THE BRIDGE? UM, MAINTENANCE UPDATE FOR 64TH.

OKAY.

HEARING NONE, UH, MS. PROM, IS THIS READY FOR NEXT THURSDAY'S AGENDA? UM, NOT AT THIS TIME.

WE'D LIKE SOME MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE CONTRACTOR'S

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DETAILS OF THEIR BID AND TO REVIEW THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO EXECUTE WITH THE ATTORNEY.

OKAY.

SO MAYBE YOU, CAN YOU BRING US AN UPDATE AT THE OCTOBER 22ND YES.

WORK SESSION? MM-HMM .

MA'AM? ABSOLUTELY.

CHIEF MORRIS.

CHIEF MORRIS.

OH, CHIEF MORRIS, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THIS PROJECT? ACTING DIRECTOR? MORRIS? MM-HMM .

.

I'LL PUT IT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, CHIEF, I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.

YEAH.

THERE WE GO.

UNMUTED.

YES, SIR.

NOW, MS. PROM MENTIONED, UH, BROUGHT UP THE, UH, REVIEW BY MR. DELOACH FOR, UH, THE CONTRACT REVIEW.

SO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT, BUT I ALSO WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T COMPLIMENTS MISS PROM ON THE TREMENDOUS EFFORT THAT SHE'S PUT INTO THIS PROJECT.

UH, I'VE, I'VE WITNESSED, UM, HER CONTINUAL REVIEW OF THIS, UH, OVER THE LAST, UH, OVER THE CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME, AND PARTICULARLY THE LAST WEEK IN PREPARATION FOR THE NIGHT.

SHE'S JUST DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB AND I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT HER.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU, MS. PROM.

EXCELLENT WORK.

AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

UH, SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO IT.

UH, OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX.

AND IF, UH, VICE MAYOR BRIER, OR COUNCIL MEMBER GAR ARE OUT THERE, OR YOU ARRIVE, PLEASE SHOUT OR IS HERE.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER GAR IS HERE.

UM, YEAH, I'VE BEEN HERE.

MAYOR.

HELLO, SIR.

HOW ARE YOU? WE DOING? I HOPE YOU'RE FEELING BETTER.

UH, OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, THE CHOP UP UPDATE.

UM, LET US HEAR FROM MR. EDDIE POUNDS, ESQUIRE, OUR LIQUOR ATTORNEY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

AND THEN, UH, WE'LL TURN TO MR. .

OKAY.

IS MR. POUNDS HERE? OKAY.

UH, LET US WAIT THEN.

AND THEN AFTER WE HEAR THE PRESENTATION, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GARCES AND OR COUNCIL MEMBER FRY, UM, IF THEY HAVE ANY INPUT ON THIS ONGOING INVESTIGATION.

UH, MR. MAYOR? YES.

HI, THIS IS J UH, UH, JASON DELO.

ATTORNEY DELO.

YES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THE REASON WHY I AM NOT REPRESENTING THE CITY OR THE TOWN ON THESE LIQUOR MATTERS IS BECAUSE I'M ALSO THE ATTORNEY FOR THE LIQUOR BOARD.

SO MR. POUNDS IS COMING IN AS A, UH, SPECIAL, UM, ASSIGNED ATTORNEY TO HANDLE ALL LIQUOR MATTERS, UH, FOR SEVERAL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. DELOACH.

GOOD CLARIFICATION.

NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH MR. TODD POUNDS.

MR. EDDIE POUNDS.

DIFFERENT ATTORNEY.

EXACTLY.

.

UM, AND MR. EDDIE POUNDS DOES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK FOR MANY YEARS IN THIS PARTICULAR FIELD, SO HE IS A GREAT SUBSTITUTE PLAYER.

ALRIGHT, WHY DON'T WE MOVE, UM, THEN IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OUTSIDE GUESTS FOR CHOP UP, WHY DON'T WE JUST MOVE TO THE HILL TRAFFIC DISCUSSION AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO CHOP UP IF THAT'S JUST, IF THAT'S DELAINE AND, AND, AND, UM, AND OTHERS.

UH, SO FOR, FOR ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT, UH, THE HILL AND THE G-I-C-M-O-U, I THINK WHAT I WANT TO DO IS PLACE A TIME LIMIT ON EACH ITEM TONIGHT.

UH, LET US, UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION, LET US GO WITH 40 MINUTES FOR EACH ITEM, AND AT THE END OF WHICH WE WILL EITHER MAKE A DECISION OR WE WILL MOVE THE ITEM TO, UM, OCTOBER 22ND.

SO LET US START WITH THE HOSPITAL TRAFFIC DISCUSSION.

UH, IS MR. GOOD ONLINE? ALRIGHT, LET ME SAY A COUPLE WORDS FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO TO MR. GOOD.

SO, UM, THE POINT OF PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA IS NOT, IS NOT TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT OR IN NOVEMBER ON ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE, UH, WHICH WOULDN'T NECESSARILY INCLUDES OPENING THE STREETS, BUT MAY INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS AS WELL.

IT'S TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE AND TO ESTABLISH WHEN WE WANNA MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, WHAT DECISIONS WE WANNA MAKE, AND WHAT INFORMATION OUT OF ORDER, WHAT INFORMATION WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DECISION.

WE HAVE

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A FEW ITEMS BEFORE US.

WE REALLY HAVE 2, 2, 2 KEY ITEMS. ONE IS A TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, FROM LINDSAY, I BELIEVE, UM, COMMISSIONED BY HOME TEAM FIVE, APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, MAYBE TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

THE SECOND ITEM IS A TRAFFIC, UH, ANALYSIS THAT MR. GOODE DID COMMISSIONED BY THE TOWN ALSO ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

SO THE QUESTION AS WE HEAR FROM MR. GOODE AND, UH, AND, AND IS, IS I NEED COUNSEL TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT DO, WHAT ADDITIONALLY TO WHAT YOU'RE HEARING DO YOU NEED, WHETHER IT'S UPDATED, WHETHER IT'S MORE COMPREHENSIVE, WHAT DO YOU NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE A DECISION OR FRAME YOUR DECISION MAKING OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS REGARDING, UH, ACCESS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND ANYTHING ELSE, WHETHER WE WANT TO MAKE AN AFFIRMATIVE DECISION ABOUT STORM WATER BUILDING MATERIALS OR ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'VE WRITTEN EX EXHAUSTIVELY TO THE PLANNING BOARD ABOUT.

SO WITH THAT, THAT WAS MY INTENTION.

IF YOU DISAGREE, WE CAN GET TO THAT AND, UH, AND YOU CAN REFRAME THE CONVERSATION.

BUT I THINK I'LL STOP THERE AND GO TO MR. GOODE AND INVITE HIM TO BRING US UP TO DATE FROM WHERE WE WERE TWO YEARS AGO.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, SO WITH REGARDS TO THE HOSPITAL HILL TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, OF COURSE AT THAT TIME, LINER, UH, TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS, UH, PREPARED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE THE, OBVIOUSLY THE ORIGINATORS OF THE STUDY.

AND THEN I WAS, UH, BROUGHT ON TO KIND OF REVIEW THE STUDY, OFFER MY, UM, OBSERVATIONS AND OPINIONS OF THE STUDY.

AND, AND THAT WAS, SO I PROVIDED THAT TWO YEARS AGO WITHIN A MEMO.

UM, AND I COULD KIND OF BRIEFLY JUST SHARE THAT, UH, LET'S SEE.

OKAY, I CAN SEE THIS.

SO, SO BASICALLY WE CONDUCTED BACK IN JUNE OF 2024, UM, A REVIEW OF THE LINER, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE CHEVROLET URBAN ATLANTIC, UM, UM, PROJECT.

AND AT THAT TIME, UM, I REVIEWED THIS STUDY, LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY TYPICALLY PROVIDE.

I MEAN, THEY, THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF STUDIES OBVIOUSLY FOR PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, UH, PARKING PLANNING.

SO I, I REVIEWED THEIR WORK IN THE PAST.

THEY, YOU KNOW, DO A FAIRLY THOROUGH JOB AND BASED UPON WHAT THEY HAD PROVIDED IN TERMS OF, UH, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND, AND MITIGATION MEASURES, UM, WHAT I FOUND WAS BASICALLY WHAT THEY, WHAT THE, THE INTERSECTIONS THAT THEY STUDIED, UM, ALL NOT ONLY EXISTING BUT IN FUTURE, UM, HAD ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF SERVICE.

UM, THE, THE TWO ACCESS POINTS, UM, I THINK THAT WERE PROPOSED, UM, LET'S SEE, OR PROPOSED WITHIN THE TOWN, INCLUDING THE EXTENSIONS OF LOCKWOOD AND INWOOD, UM, THE PROPOSED SHARED USE PATH THAT WAS PLANNED, THAT'S PLANNED ALONG PEPSI PLACE IN MARYLAND 2 0 1 AND WOULD PROVIDE FUTURE CONNECTION FOR, UM, UH, PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.

AND, UM, ALSO TO THE FUTURE CONNECTION WITH THE ANACOSTIA WATERFRONT TRAIL.

YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, REVIEWED THAT AND THAT ALL SEEMED AT THAT TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THAT MULTIMODAL AS WE SEE NOWADAYS WITHIN TRAFFIC STUDIES, BASICALLY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEY SEEM TO BE PROVIDING THAT WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THERE.

WHAT I ENDED UP RE YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TEND TO, I TEND TO CONCENTRATE ON IS THE LEVELS OF SERVICE.

WHAT I DON'T WANNA SEE IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, ARE THE STUDY INTERSECTIONS AROUND SUFFERING OR, YOU KNOW, BEING UNACCEPTABLE AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE AS FAR AS TRAFFIC MITIGATIONS INCLUDING, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE TOWN, INCLUDING TRAFFIC, CALMING, SPEED, HUMPS, CHOKERS, ONE-WAY REPAIRS AND BALLERS, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME SEEMED TO BE, UM, WHAT I WOULD DEEM TO BE FAIR TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC MITIGATION MEASURES.

UM, ALSO, AGAIN, AGAIN PROMOTING PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE AND ACCESSIBILITY MOVEMENTS, UM, WAS ALL WITHIN THE STUDY.

AND THAT ALL SEEMED TO BE RATHER CLEAR.

UM,

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AND I KNOW, SO BACK IN MARCH OF 2024, THERE WAS THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC MEETING, UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK WAS SOLICITED FROM, FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

UM, AND SO SEEMED TO BE KIND OF LIKE A MIXED BAG, I WOULD SAY.

UM, I KNOW THE MAJOR CONCERN FROM A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS IS THE VEHICLE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE INCREASED SPEEDING AND TRAFFIC INGESTION THAT COULD, THAT COULD COME WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOKED AT THROUGH THE STUDY WAS, AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE SURE WHAT THEY WERE PROVIDING OR SUGGESTING FOR, UH, MITIGATION MEASURES WOULD BE CARRIED FORTH THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY ONCE WE GET TO CONSTRUCTION AND HOW ALL THAT GETS ALLOCATED IN TERMS OF FUNDING.

I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK WOULD BE A POSITIVE THING FOR THE TOWN, UM, AS LONG AS IT'S CARRIED THROUGH.

UM, AND SO MY OVERALL TAKE ON THE STUDY WAS THAT I AGREED WITH THE SUGGESTED TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THAT WERE BEING PROVIDED, INCLUDING, AGAIN, SPEED HUMPS, CHOKERS SPEED, UH, STOP SIGN CAMERAS, WHICH IS BECOMING HEAVILY PREVALENT NOW IN A LOT OF TOWNS, UM, THAT I'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

AND ALSO, UM, LIKE TIME OF DAY ACCESS RESTRICTIONS AND, AND OTHER, UM, MODEL RESTRICTIONS, UM, FOR PARTICULAR ACCESSES.

SO, UM, AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATION TOO WAS AS THE, AS THE DEVELOPMENT IS, YOU KNOW, GETTING BUILT AND THEN ONCE IT'S BUILT AND IN, AND IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE, I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE AS I WORK WITH MR. GALLOWAY AND PREVIOUSLY WITH MR. BRAMAN IS WE CONSTANTLY LOOK AT WAYS TO STILL PERIODICALLY LOOK AT HOW WE COULD STILL CONTROL WHETHER IT'S SPEEDING, WHETHER IT'S STOP SIGN RUNNING, MAYBE POSSIBLY CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.

I THINK THAT WILL STILL NEED TO BE MONITORED AS THE, UM, POST, UM, CONSTRUCTION OF THE, OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

SO, UM, SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MY ROLE IN THIS CASE WAS TO JUST KIND OF RE REVIEW THEIR STUDY, OFFER MY SUGGESTIONS, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK I, I AGREED WITH AT THAT TIME, UM, UM, WHAT, WHAT WAS SET FORTH.

NOW I HAVE NOT HEARD NOW SINCE THEN, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING WITH REGARDS TO THE STUDY, ANY UPDATES.

UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN LIKE ANY TYPES OF COMMENTS FROM THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES, UM, ON THE PARTICULAR STUDY.

SO, UM, I WON'T BE ABLE TO OFFER ANY FOLLOW UP TO THAT AT THIS TIME.

BUT MY, UM, RECOMMENDATION WAS BASED ON THE INITIAL STUDY I WAS PROVIDED TWO YEARS AGO THERE, UM, SO, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MY UPDATE WOULD BE AT THIS TIME.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. GOODE.

COUNSEL, UM, ANY COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE OR REQUESTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL FOLLOW ON STUDIES INFORMATION? MR. WADE? YEAH, I JUST WANT, UH, CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE STUDY.

THIS STUDY WAS INITIATED BY THE DEVELOPERS, IS THAT CORRECT? THE FOUNDATION STUDY WAS DONE BY LINDSAY, RIGHT? COMMISSIONED BY THE DEVELOPER.

AND THEN I, I, I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, MR. GOODE, BUT I THINK YOU, YOUR ANALYSIS IS ANALYZING THEIR STUDY AND TRYING TO FIND FAULTS OR OVERSIGHTS THAT THEY MADE IN THEIR STUDY.

IS THAT RIGHT, MR. GOODE? CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO IT WAS, IT WAS, UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IT WAS LINER TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.

AND SO YES, I WAS BROUGHT ON BOARD, UH, BY MR. GALLWAY AND MR. BRAMAN TO REVIEW IT, UM, OFFER MY EXPERTISE, UM, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE COUNCIL IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, ANY AT THAT TIME.

BUT YES, MY ROLE WAS JUST KIND OF BASICALLY JUST AN ANALYZE WHAT THEY PROVIDED, NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDE AN, UH, A SECOND FULL REPORT, UM, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

YEAH.

THING I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, UM, JUST PARTICULARLY, UH, RESIDENTS OF WARD WON, A LOT OF THEM ARE CONCERNED.

AND THEN THIS IS NO, UH, SLIGHT TO THE DEVELOPERS AT ALL, BUT, UH, THE CONCERN OF HAVING THE ORIGIN OF A STUDY ORIGINALLY REQUESTED BE DONE BY THE TOWN VERSUS THE DEVELOPERS, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE, UH, MR. GOOD AND OF COURSE OUR TOWN, UH, STAFF FOR DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, BUT JUST ME ECHOING THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS OF WARD ONE

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TO HAVE A, UH, STUDY THAT WAS, UH, ORIGINALLY REQUESTED BY THE TOWN, SO THAT THERE IS NO TYPE OF, UH, LACK OF BETTER WORDS, MIXTURE OF, UH, BETWEEN THE DEVELOPERS INITIATING VERSUS THE TOWN MICHIGAN.

SO IT'S A FULL LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY.

UM, SO THAT HAS BEEN MY ARTICULATION, UM, FOR SINCE DAY ONE.

I DO REALIZE THAT THESE STUDIES ARE NOT CHEAP AT ALL, UH, REGARDLESS, BUT, UM, IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FULL LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR DECISION, THAT WILL BE VARIOUS DECISIONS THAT WILL BE BEFORE US, THAT, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HIGHLY CONSIDER.

UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S PARTICULARLY, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF WARD ONE WHO HAVE VOICED THAT, AND I HAVE VOICED THAT AS A RESULT OF THAT AS WELL.

AND ALSO, UH, THE STUDY ALSO, UM, SOME OF THE, THE, THE, THE CONCERNS ARE THE STUDY ONLY COVERS, OF COURSE, THE STREETS OF LOCKWOOD AND, UM, INWOOD, UM, NOT LOOKING AT OTHER STREETS AS WELL.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS OF WARD ONE AND WHAT THEY HAVE A YIELD BACK, WHICH ARE VALID, VALID CONCERNS YIELD BACK.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO COME IN AT THIS TIME? MR. TANZI? UM, SO I WASN'T ON, UH, THE COUNCIL WHEN THIS, UH, SERVICE, THIS ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED, BUT IT WAS INITIATED BY THE TOWN.

YES.

AND I MEAN, DOES SINCE IT WAS INITIATED BY US, CAN WE ASK THAT QUESTION NOW? DO YOU THINK THERE'S, UH, THE REPORT THAT YOU ANALYZED HAS CAUSED FOR CONCERN FOR SOME CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR UNDUE BIAS THAT, UH, THAT WE NEED MORE INFORMATION? OR DO YOU, I MEAN, YOUR CONCLUSION SEEMS TO BE THAT THIS IS A, A SOUND REPORT, BUT GIVEN COUNCIL MEMBER WADE'S POINT THAT IT'S ONLY ABOUT TWO ROADS, RIGHT? IT WAS COMMISSIONED BY THE DEVELOPER.

UM, IS, IS THERE NEED FOR MORE ANALYSIS IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS? OR WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE REPRESENTING THE, YOUR INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS TO, TO THE TOWN IN THIS CONCLUSION? YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, IN ORDER FOR THIS TO, UM, TO STUDY TO BE INITIATED, IT DOES GO THROUGH THE VARIOUS AGENCIES INCLUDING PARKING PLANNING, UM, DEEP HIGH, UM, MARYLAND STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THO THOSE ARE THE THREE MAJOR AGENCIES THAT WHEN THEY FIRST PREPARE THEIR SCOPING AGREEMENT, UM, TO BASICALLY SET UP THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE STUDY, INCLUDING, UM, THE TRIP GENERATIONS, WHAT THIS DEVELOP, HOW MANY TRIPS IS THIS DEVELOPMENT GOING TO GENERATE, THE, THE INTERSECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE, UM, STUDIED.

ALL THAT GETS VETTED THROUGH, THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

NOW, UM, ONCE THAT GETS VETTED AND APPROVED THROUGH THE SCOPING AGREEMENT, THEN YOU KNOW, THEN THE STUDY IS ULTIMATELY PREPARED.

SO I, IT IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE LINER IN THIS SITUATION HERE IS PREPARING THIS STUDY WITHIN A VACUUM.

I MEAN, IT DOES HAVE TO GO THROUGH VARIOUS AGENCIES, UM, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO, UM, GET A BUY-IN ON THE STUDY.

AND THEN ONCE THAT BUY-IN IS PREPARED, THEN IT, YOU KNOW, IT GOES OUT TO THOSE VARIOUS AGENCIES, UM, FOR REVIEW.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY SHENANIGANS, I GUESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, FOCUSING ON ONE PARTICULAR AREA AND PROBABLY TRYING TO COVER UP SOMETHING ELSE.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I, I REVIEWED A LOT OF THEIR STUDIES WHEN I WAS DOING ONSITE WORK FOR STATE HIGHWAY FOR, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS WISE THAT WOULD RAISE RED FLAGS.

I MEAN, I, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD THINK THAT BECAUSE THIS GETS VETTED THROUGH PRETTY THOROUGHLY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE ROADWAY NETWORK ROADWAY NETWORKS THAT WERE STUDIED, UM, WERE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THOSE VARIOUS AGENCIES.

UM, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU, THERE CAN ALWAYS BE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, A A A SEPARATE STUDY THAT COULD BE DONE.

IT'S STILL GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, IT WOULD STILL GO THROUGH AS, LIKE I SAID, PARK

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AND PLANNING D PI AND, AND STATE HIGHWAY FOR CONCURRENCE ON, UM, STUDY INTERSECTION TRIP GENERATION.

SO IT MAY COME OUT THAT, UM, WHAT WE SEE HERE IS GONNA MOST LIKELY BE SIMILAR.

I MEAN, THERE COULD BE, OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE INCLUDED INTO THIS, UM, LIKE SURROUNDING STUDIES.

BUT I THINK PROBABLY THE GUTS OF IT WILL STILL BE RELATIVELY THE SAME.

I MEAN, I GUESS THERE'S ONLY BEEN TWO YEARS AND, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY COULD, THERE COULD BE EASILY, YOU KNOW, A HANDFUL OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED BUT NOT YET DEVELOPED.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THROWN INTO HERE TO BE STUDIED.

BUT I MEAN, THAT WOULD HAVE TO GET, YOU KNOW, VETTED THROUGH.

I, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

ACTUALLY, I DID NOT KNOW ALL OF THAT BACKGROUND, SO THAT, THAT WAS USEFUL FOR ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

UH, OKAY.

UM, COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC? ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS PUT YOUR, PUT YOUR HAND? YES.

ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS ONLINE, PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND UP.

WE'RE GONNA GO TO JOHN NOW.

UM, YES, THANK YOU FOR THIS.

UM, SUE, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, SO THIS IS AN ADVISORY MEMORANDUM TO THE TOWN BASED ON THE REPORT FROM THE DEVELOPERS.

AND SO YOU ARE OFFERING ADVICE BASED ON THINGS THAT COULD CHANGE DOWN THE ROAD.

YOU ARE JUST BASICALLY SAYING THAT IN 2024 THERE WAS A TOWN, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A PUBLIC MEETING AND YOU LOOKED AT WHERE THINGS WERE AT THAT TIME.

AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THINGS COULD CHANGE AND WE COULD COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT AVENUE OR OPTIONS FOR ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN ADVISORY OPTION MM-HMM .

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT, RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, WHY DON'T WE GO TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

UH, BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF TIME, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THE QUESTION OF WHAT INFORMATION TO GENERATE IN ORDER TO MAKE TRAFFIC DECISIONS IN THE, IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS ON THE BEVERLY HILL DEVELOPMENT? WE DON'T HAVE A PODIUM, BUT FEEL FREE TO COME UP AND GRAB A CHAIR IN FRONT OF THE MICROPHONE.

YOUR NAME, YOUR WARD, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

AND IF YOU'RE ONLINE, PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND UP SO THAT OUR CLERK CAN FIND YOU.

HELLO, LAYLA AZI, WARD ONE.

UM, I JUST WANNA SHIFT OUR ATTENTION A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THE MAIN PROJECT TO THE INTERSECTION AT, UM, KENNELWORTH AVENUE AND TUXEDO ROAD AND, UM, GETTING ONTO ROUTE 50.

YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT CONTINUES TO BE AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.

AND WHEN WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE HOPE TO HAVE, BE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, CONTRIBUTING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND VI VIBRANT DEVELOPMENT, WE NEED TO HAVE SH A'S SUPPORT IN ADDRESSING THAT INTERSECTION.

UM, AS WE PULL MORE PEOPLE IN, IT WILL ONLY BECOME MORE DANGEROUS.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS THAT I LEARNED ABOUT THAT WERE DONE IN THE PAST THAT HELPED MITIGATE A LITTLE BIT OF THE DANGER FOR US TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT THERE NEED TO BE, UM, JUST MORE SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATIONS ACROSS THE WAY FOR THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

VERY GOOD REMINDER.

ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THE QUESTION OF WHAT INFORMATION TO GET THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL IN ORDER TO MAKE INFORMED TRAFFIC DECISIONS? WELCOME, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

OH, SORRY.

THANK YOU.

UH, GO AHEAD AND START OVER.

I DON'T THINK PATTY COULD HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU MAYOR FOR INCLUDING SOME OF THIS IN, UH, YOUR DEALINGS WITH THE PARK COMPLAINING.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED TO BROADEN YOUR, UM, STUDY TO INCLUDE INTERSECTIONS THAT WILL BE GREATLY

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IMPACTED THAT ARE NOT THE TWO STREETS.

AND THE MOST SIGNIFICANT WOULD BE GREENLEAF AND CREST, UM, UH, UPPER CREST, UH, INCLUDING, UM, CREST AND CARLISLE AS PEOPLE EXIT.

THAT ALREADY IS A VERY, UM, SOMEWHAT DANGEROUS INTERSECTION, UM, WITH THE POOL THERE.

I THINK YOU EVEN NEED TO LOOK AT GREENLEAF AS IT, UM, HITS, UM, UH, FOREST ROAD.

I THINK, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A STRAIGHT SHOT DOWN TO TUXEDO THROUGH POSSIBLY BELLEVUE.

SO I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU BROADEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT I SAW THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO OUR PLANNING BOARD, NOT THE COUNTY, WAS VERY CONFUSING.

IT, IT DID, IT GAVE NUMBERS FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL, IT, IT WAS VERY CONFUSING AND NOT COMPLETE.

SO, UM, I WOULD JUST HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO TIE ON TO WHAT LAYLA SAID YEARS AGO WE WORKED WITH STATE HIGHWAY, UM, TO PUT STANCHIONS, FLEXIBLE STANCHIONS AND A BUILDUP OF AN ISLAND AND, UM, AT TUXEDO ROAD AND KENNELWORTH, IT IS GONE.

IT'S BEEN GONE.

WHEN STATE HIGHWAY WAS HERE AT A PREVIOUS MEETING LAST YEAR, I BROUGHT IT UP.

UM, I REALLY THINK THAT INTERSECTION IS JUST INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

NO ARGUMENT FROM THIS COUNCIL.

SIR, GO AHEAD.

I CAN ASK A QUESTION PLEASE.

UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT REPORT YOU ALL REVIEWED ON THE PLANNING BOARD DURING THAT TIME? THERE WAS INFORMATION SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD THAT WAS IN THE PLANNING BOARD'S REPORT TO, UM, I GUESS THE TOWN.

AND I REMEMBER THE CHART.

PERHAPS OTHER PEOPLE MAY REMEMBER, UM, WHERE IT HAD THE NUMBER OF TRIPS, UH, EXISTING AND THEN FUTURE.

IT'S IN OUR PLANNING BOARD'S REPORT.

IT WAS, UM, UH, REPRINTED THAT INFORMATION WAS REPRINTED IN THAT REPORT.

I CAN FIND IT FOR YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE'LL CALL YOU IF WE , WE MAY HAVE TO CALL YOU, BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? UM, GO AHEAD MAY.

COUNSEL, UH, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, UM, REGARDING THE ROUTE 50 IN KENILWORTH.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT IN THE TOWN IN WHICH HOPEFULLY ONE DAY IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE, UH, WE WOULD LOVE TO GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH SHA ON MITIGATING THAT MATTER.

I CROSSED OVER THAT, THAT AREA, UM, TO GET ON COLUMBIA PARK ROAD ABOUT A WEEK AGO AND BARELY MADE IT.

OKAY.

UM, SO IT IS A, IT IS AN ISSUE.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND TOUCH BASE WITH SHA SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP TONIGHT.

ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

UH, SO COUNCIL, UM, WE'RE DOING GREAT ON TIME.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED? I, I'M HEARING A LITTLE BIT OF INTEREST IN ASKING MR. GALLOWAY AND, AND MR. HUNTER AND, AND AND DIRECTOR, ACTING DIRECTOR MORRIS, TO, UM, EVALUATE WHAT KINDS OF STUDIES ARE OUT THERE AND WHAT A REASONABLE AND MAYBE SOME PRICES OR LEVELS OF COMPLEXITY, ET CETERA.

AM I MISREADING THAT? NO, YOU'RE NOT.

I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO, UM, A FULLY, UM, INDEPENDENT, UM, TRANSPARENT STUDY.

I KNOW WE'RE IN A TOUGH BUDGET, UH, SITUATION RIGHT NOW, BUT UM, IF WE WANT TO LOOK BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE DOTTED ALL OUR I'S AND CROSSED ALL T'S, I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, IT, THE PROPER COURSE OF ACTION TO, TO LOOK INTO THAT GOING FORWARD.

AND JUST TO COMMENT ON THE, UM, KENNEL WHARF, ASFORD, MY SON BUS ACTUALLY, UM, TAKES THAT ROUTE AND I ACTUALLY HAD TO CHASE THE BUS DOWN TO GET HIM ON THE BUS.

SO I AGREE WITH THAT.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, A RESIDENT DID POINT OUT THAT THE, UH, STOP SIGN COMING NORTHBOUND OFF OF 2 95

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TO GET TO CHEV.

IT'S THE STOP SIGN IS DOWN OR IT'S NOT THERE.

OH, OKAY.

SO ON THE PARKWAY OFF COMING OFF THE PARKWAY.

SO, ALRIGHT, WE, WE CAN MAKE A PHONE CALL ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

SO JUST YIELD BACK.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YES.

SORRY.

UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES, BUT I THINK THE BROADER QUESTION IS WHAT ARE ALL THE THINGS WE'RE CONSIDERING, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO I CARE ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES.

UM, I DO THINK THERE IS A LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURNS AND THE KIND OF EXPLORATION THAT, UH, THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR COULD EXPLORE, COULD EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF USEFUL, A LOT MORE USEFUL INFORMATION OUT OF THIS, OR IF IT'S GONNA BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF MONEY FOR ONLY A MODEST AMOUNT.

ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE ARE JUST OTHER PRACTICAL THINGS.

WE HAVE NOW ANNEXED THE SITE, SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT JUST SERVING THE TOWN AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN.

WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC DO WE WANT TO, UM, TO ALLOW AND ACCESS? DO WE WANT TO ALLOW? UH, THE SURVEY, AS I REMEMBER IT SHOWED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOW A FEW YEARS AGO, SHOWED THAT NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTED THROUGH STREETS, BUT THE MAJORITY DID.

IF WE ANNEXED THE SITE, WE HAVE NOW ANNEXED THE SITE.

SO I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT ANNEXATION MATTERED AND THAT THIS IS NOW PART OF THE TOWN.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A, A PRIMARY CONCERN.

AND THEN I WANT TO, UH, PREVIOUS UH, MEETINGS WE HAVE BEEN REMINDED THAT THE STREETS REMAIN OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT REMAIN TOWN STREETS AND WE HAVE CONTROL OVER TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND TRAFFIC COMING MEASURES, ET CETERA.

SO I THINK THE REAL, UM, DISCUSSION IS DO WE WANT DIRECT ACCESS TO A SUBSTANTIAL NEW PART OF TOWN? RIGHT? AND IF THERE ARE CONCERNS, DO WE HAVE THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THOSE AFTER HAVING ANSWERED THE FIRST QUESTION, I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE HOW, WE DON'T ANSWER.

THE FIRST QUESTION OF OUR DEFAULT WOULD BE WE WANT ACCESS TO A NEW PART OF TOWN.

THE ONLY REASON WE'D SAY NO IS IF THE THE CONCERNS ARE EGREGIOUS.

UM, UH, AND SO, OR THE RISKS ARE EGREGIOUS.

AND SO I PERSONALLY THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE, UH, WHO ARE PRESIDENTS OF ASSOCIATIONS, OF CITY MANAGERS, UH, HELP FRAME THAT, UH, FOR US TO SEE IF THERE IS INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T YET HAVE.

BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO ISOLATE THIS INTO A TECHNICAL DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE A VERY SERIOUS MUNICIPAL DECISION ABOUT ARE WE GOING TO, UH, HAVE ACCESS, WE HAD THE SITE, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS UP EARLIER TO HUNDREDS OF NEW HOUSING UNITS AND OBVIOUSLY THAT IS SCARY IN A WAY BECAUSE IT MEANS HUNDREDS OF HOUSING UNITS MIGHT WANT TO CONNECT TO TOWN HALL OR, OR WHATEVER.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN LIMIT IT JUST TO QUESTIONS OF THROUGH TRAFFIC, THROUGH TRAFFIC FOR ME, OR THE CONCERN OF THROUGH TRAFFIC IS SAFETY IN WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL ABUSE OF LOCAL ROADS THAT ARE NOT MEANT FOR THROUGH TRAFFIC.

AND THERE ARE WAYS TO, UH, MODERATE THE LADDER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TELL SOMEONE, HEY, YOU LIVE OVER THERE, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE THIS WAY TO TOWN HALL.

RIGHT.

THEIR RESIDENTS TOO.

AND OR AT LEAST ONCE WE HAVE RESIDENTS, THEIR RESIDENTS TOO.

SO I THINK THOSE DECISIONS ARE KIND OF ETHICAL, UH, SUBSTANTIVE QUESTIONS TO ASK.

AND THEN THE TECHNICAL ONES COME AFTER WE HAVE, UH, DECIDED WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE THROUGH GUIDANCE OF PEOPLE WITH MORE EXPERTISE, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION OR ARE WE NOW AT RISK OF SPENDING TIME AND MONEY TO NOT GET A LOT MORE INFORMATION.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I TEND TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID, UH, BUT IT, SO, BUT IT IS USEFUL TO THINK ABOUT ALSO WHAT ELSE WE MIGHT WANNA VOTE ON AND BEGIN TO COLLECT THOSE THINGS.

I'M HAPPY TO COLLECT THEM.

SOMEONE CAN VOLUNTEER TO COLLECT THEM, BUT BEGIN TO COLLECT THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT, SHOULD WE OPEN LOCKWOOD AND INWOOD? UM, AND BECAUSE I DO THINK SOME OF THEM ARE IMPORTANT AND WHILE WE ARE ON RECORD SAYING A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, UH, WITH THAT LETTER WE SENT IN MARCH, MIGHTN'T WE BE ON RECORD DOING IT AGAIN.

UM, BECAUSE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.

VICE MAYOR BRIER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

YES.

HELLO.

I WANTED TO SECOND EVERYTHING COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI SAID, NOW THAT I'VE HEARD WHAT HE SAID.

UM, AND UH, THANK HIM FOR REMINDING

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US THAT THE CHEVROLET HILL RESIDENTS ARE ALSO CHEVROLET RESIDENTS, UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING NEW SINCE THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS.

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK THAT IF WE PLAN TO MAKE ANY UNPLANNED MAJOR EXPENDITURES THAT WE AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE WITH THAT DISCUSSION OF WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM IN THE BUDGET? UM, WHAT IS, WHAT IS IT DISPLACING? UM, BUT MOSTLY I JUST WANTED TO SAY I ARRIVED IN .

UM, I DIDN'T WANNA INTERRUPT THE DISCUSSION, UM, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON RECORD.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THAT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT BUDGET REMINDER.

UH, SO LET US, UM, LET'S PROCEED THIS WAY THEN.

MR. GALLOWAY, I THINK YOU HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE COUNCIL TO PRICE OUT, FOR LACK OF A MORE ELEGANT TERM, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY OPTIONS, UH, MOVING FORWARD, RECOGNIZING WE'RE GOING INTO THE WINTER AND ALL OF THE ENGINEERING EXPERTS CAN FIGURE ALL ALL OF THE CAVEATS FOR THAT.

UM, LET US DISCUSS THIS AGAIN AT A WORK SESSION MEETING WHEN YOU HAVE HAD TIME TO DO THAT RESEARCH, UH, AND HAVE YOUR TEAM DO THE RESEARCH.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT DECEMBER 1ST? WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT TIME? YES, SIR.

WE'RE, WE ONLY HAVE TWO MORE WORK SESSIONS THIS YEAR, THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

SO, ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA PUT THIS ITEM THEN BACK ON THE, OR PUT IT ON THE, AGAIN, THE DECEMBER 1ST WORK SESSION AGENDA.

UM, AND, UH, WE WILL LOOK FOR, UH, A DISCUSSION THAT YOU, UM, INCLUDING YOUR ANALYSIS OF WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE FOR FUNDING A STUDY, UM, IN THE COMING MONTHS.

ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, THAT, UH, WENT, UM, MORE QUICKLY THAN I THOUGHT.

I'M GONNA NOT JINX IT AND JUST KEEP GOING.

MR. GALLOWAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO GIC OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO CHOP UP BECAUSE WE SKIPPED CHOP UP WAITING FOR YOU? YES, I CAN DO A BRIEF, UH, CHOP UP, CHOP UP UPDATE.

I DO KNOW THAT, UM, WE HAVE SOME GUESTS HERE TONIGHT, SO IT WON'T TAKE ME LONG.

SO, UH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN THE TOWN OF CHEVROLET.

JUST TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ON CHOPPED UP KULA AND LOUNGE, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ATTORNEY POUNDS ON RESOLVING SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE, UH, SENT IN REGARDING THE, UH, PARKING AND THE APARTMENT, UH, SPACES.

UM, THE AFTER, UM, ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS AND THE, THE SERVING OF ALCOHOL, ET CETERA, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE ACTUAL BUSINESS BEING OPENED PAST, UH, THE ACTUAL HOURS.

COINCIDENTALLY, YESTERDAY THE OWNER GAVE ME A CALL, UM, AND, AND INDICATED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE MOVING FORWARD.

HOWEVER, UM, SINCE THEN, ATTORNEY POUNDS HAS CONTACTED, UM, UH, THE OWNER'S ATTORNEY, WHO IS ATTORNEY CARTER.

UM, I THINK THAT THAT CALL FROM HIS ATTORNEY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UH, SHOOK HIM, IF YOU WILL.

UM, PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY HAS ALSO BEEN IN TOUCH WITH ME ON THIS MATTER.

THEY HAVE BEGUN AN INVESTIGATION AFTER I SENT THE INITIAL EMAIL.

WE HAVE HAD, UH, PEOPLE KIND OF INVESTIGATING THE AREA ON THE WEEKENDS AND DURING THE WEEK AFTER HOURS.

UM, THEY HAVE NOT, UM, FOUND THEM, FOUND CHOPPED UP AND COOLER TO BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE YET.

UM, HOWEVER, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS COMMUNICATION TO THE RESTAURANT MADE AFTER, UH, LAST MONTH'S MEETING.

SO, UM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE AND, UM, COUNCILOR REGARDS, COUNCIL MEMBER MC FRY.

DO KNOW THAT, UH, THIS IS IN YOUR, YOUR WARDS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, OTHER COMPLAINTS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE INVESTIGATOR ON THIS MATTER.

UM, WE WILL, UM, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AND I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL A COMPLETED INVESTIGATIVE REPORT.

UM, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS, I WILL ALSO STATE THAT, UM, THERE'S BEEN ANOTHER MATTER REGARDING ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT, UM, WE WILL BEGIN AN INVESTIGATION ON BECAUSE OF SOME A AFTER OUR ACTIVITY.

UM, SO I'LL UPDATE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AT A LATER TIME, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT, UH, SUCH INVESTIGATION WILL BE HAPPENING FROM THE COUNTY.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT ON THAT MATTER.

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THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, I DON'T WANT TO PUT COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE SPOT, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER GARCIA OR COUNCIL MEMBER FRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER ANY, ANY INPUT OR QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR ON CHOP UP? UH, WELL, I JUST WANT TO, UH, MR. GALLOWAY, THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR, FOR USING AN INVESTIGATION TO CHOP UP.

UM, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, I'M SORRY I'M HEARING NICO.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

ONE SECOND.

YEAH, I JUST WANNA APPRECIATE, UM, MR. GALLOWAY AND THE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR LEADING THE INVESTIGATION AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE OWNER REACHING OUT TO THE TOWN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK WE'RE PAST, UM, TAKING THE WORD OF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, NOW SHAPE THE WORK THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN.

HELLO? YEAH, WE CAN STILL HEAR YOU.

HELLO? WE CAN STILL HEAR YOU.

CHARLIE, CAN YOU HEAR US? YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, THAT'S IT.

UM, ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE WILL, UM, ALL RIGHT.

OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS INCLUDING MR. GALLOWAY? ANYTHING TO ADD? YEAH, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT.

GO AHEAD.

UH, COUNCILOR REGARDS SAYS, I CAN ASSURE YOU WE'RE JUST NOT TAKING THE WORD OF, UH, THE, THE COUNTY ON THIS MATTER.

WE ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING A PARALLEL INVESTIGATION, UM, AND IN FACT, I'VE BEEN OUT A FEW NIGHTS AROUND 12:31 AM JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

SO, UM, I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEPUTY CHIEF AND, UM, UH, THE C POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AWARE OF THIS MATTER AS WELL.

SO, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO JUST KEEP THIS IN THE HANDS OF, UM, PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.

IF THERE ARE VIOLATIONS THAT HAPPEN, UM, AND WE CAN OBSERVE 'EM, WE WILL RECORD 'EM AND SEND THEM INTO THE ACTUAL LOOKER BOARD SO THAT THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED ACCORDINGLY.

BUT JUST WANTED TO ASSURE YOU ON THAT MATTER, ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY INPUT FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ON CHOP UP? OKAY.

HEARING NONE, WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO WATCH THIS SPACE AND WE'LL PUT IT ON ANOTHER WORK SESSION AGENDA.

UH, SHOULD WE GET ADDITIONAL COMPLAINTS? AND I KNOW THAT, UH, ATTORNEY EDDIE POUNDS WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH THE ISSUE.

UM, ALRIGHT, LET US MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, COMMITTEE, G-I-C-M-O-U.

WE ARE GONNA TRY TO DO THIS IN 40 MINUTES AS WELL.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE NEGOTIATING TEAM TO, UH, JOIN US AT THE TABLE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

UH, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER.

IT'S NOT ME.

I'M GONNA TURN, UH, FIRST PLEASE.

NO, PLEASE COME ON UP.

I'M GONNA TURN FIRST TO THE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE TIRELESSLY.

ALSO, THANK, THANK YOU TO THE THREE OF THEM, BUT ALSO TO ATTORNEY DELOACH WHO IS ONLINE.

UH, SO I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY HEARING FROM THE THREE OF YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GAR ECK AND TANZI, AND THEN ANY CLARIFICATIONS FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY.

AND THEN, UM, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE GIC AND PROCEED LIKE THUS.

MR. TANZI, ARE YOU LEADING THIS OFF? IF YOU CAN LET MR. GOOD KNOW.

HE'S GOOD.

GO AHEAD.

OH, THANK YOU MR. GOOD.

I'M SURE WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, GOOD E GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

THIS IS NOW, UH, JUST OVER A YEAR SINCE I THINK WE DECIDED, UH, TO START THIS WORK GROUP, BUT I'D HAVE TO CHECK MY NOTES.

UM, MY NAME IS DAVID TANZI, COUNCIL MEMBER FOR BOARD FOUR, WE HAD COUNCIL MEMBER LEG LOIC, AND, UH, FROM WARDS, UH, TWO AND FIVE RESPECTIVELY ON THIS WORK GROUP FROM THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL SIDE.

UM, I WANT TO GIVE A SORT OF EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER THAT IS INCLUDED IN TONIGHT'S, UH, WORK PACKET SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND IT WITHOUT HAVING TO READ IT WORD FOR WORD, THOUGH WE HAVE ALL READ IT NOW MANY TIMES WORD FOR WORD .

UM, SO SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN IN 2011, THE TOWN HAS HAD A FORMAL GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY

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FUNCTION.

THIS MOU ESTABLISHES THE TERMS UNDER WHICH THE CHEVROLET GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, AN INDEPENDENT 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, COULD FULFILL THAT ROLE UNDER THE MOU.

THE CH GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE A DEFINED ADVISORY ROLE CENTERED ON THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.

WITHIN THAT SCOPE, IT COULD PROVIDE RESEARCH, MONITORING, INFORMATION, ADVICE, AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABLE IS SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES INCLUDING LAND USE, DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT, NATURAL RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP, AND RELATED COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL CONCERNS.

WHILE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WOULD RETAIN AUTHORITY TO AMEND THE PLAN AND SOLE AUTHORITY OVER TOWN POLICY, THE COMMITTEE WOULD RECOMMEND CHANGES TO THE GREEN, COULD RECOMMEND CHANGES TO THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.

OPERATIONALLY, THE TOWN WOULD DESIGNATE A COUNCIL LIAISON.

THE COMMITTEE WOULD GIVE AN INFORMATIONAL UPDATE DURING A COMMITTEE REPORT PORTION OF THE MONTHLY TOWN MEETING.

IF IT WANTS COUNCIL ACTION ON SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO THROUGH NORMAL.

THE NORMAL AGENDA PROCESS, THE COMMITTEE WOULD REMAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS OWN OPERATIONS AND EXPENSES.

UNLESS THE TOWN SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED THE SUPPORT, IT WOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO PERFORM WORK THAT WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE A CONTRACTOR OR CONSULTANT WITHOUT A SEPARATE AGREEMENT.

THE MOU ALSO DRAWS A CLEAR LINE AROUND INDEPENDENCE AND AUTHORITY.

THE CH GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE CONTROLS ITS OWN MEMBERSHIP, LEADERSHIP, GOVERNANCE AND INDEPENDENT ACTIVITIES.

AND IT CAN WORK WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES, BUT IT CANNOT REPRESENT BUYING, COMMIT, SPEAK, OR ACT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN UNLESS THE TOWN HAS SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED IT TO DO SO.

IF PROBLEMS ARISE IN THE RELATIONSHIP, THE FIRST STEP IS COMMUNICATION THROUGH THE COUNCIL LIAISON.

IF THAT DOES NOT RESOLVE THE ISSUE, THE PARTIES MEET IN PERSON.

MEDIATION IS AVAILABLE.

IF BOTH SIDES AGREE, THE TERMINATION LANGUAGE WOULD THEN ALLOW EITHER PARTY TO END THE MOU WITH 30 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE.

AFTER FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS, THE MOU ITSELF WOULD RUN FOR TWO YEARS AND AUTOMATICALLY RENEW FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEAR TERM, UNLESS EITHER PARTY GIVES NOTICE.

IT WOULD ALSO BE REVIEWED EVERY TWO YEARS, AND ANY AMENDMENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY BOTH PARTIES.

SO OVERALL, I THINK THE STRUCTURE IS PRETTY CLEAR.

THE CHEVROLET GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE REMAINS AN INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT, BUT HAS A RECOGNIZED ADVISORY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN.

IT HAS A DEFINED AREA IN WHICH IT CAN ADVISE AND MONITOR, AND THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL RETAIN RESPONSIBILITY FOR TOWN POLICY AND OFFICIAL TOWN ACTIONS.

THERE ARE STILL STILL A COUPLE OF NARROWER DEFINED DRAFTING ISSUES TO CLEAN UP.

ONE IS MAKING MORE SPECIFIC WHAT IT, WHAT IS MEANT BY THE C GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE RETAINING THE RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES OF A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.

THE MAIN SUBSTANTIVE ISSUE WE STILL NEED TO RESOLVE IS IN SECTION FOUR, UM, I BELIEVE 60 PARAGRAPH STARTING 62 LINE 62 DEALING WITH THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE OFFICIAL TOWN SUBMISSIONS.

THE CURRENT QUESTION IS WHETHER SHOVEL GREENISH INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS MUST ACCOMPANY RELEVANT TOWN SUBMISSIONS OR WHETHER THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL RETAIN DISCRETION OVER WHETHER TO INCLUDE THEM.

TOWN COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE MOU EXPRESSLY SAY THAT RECOMMENDATIONS MAY BE INCLUDED AT THE DISCRETION OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IF WE CAN RESOLVE THAT ISSUE.

THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT IS LARGELY CLARIFICATION AND FINAL DRAFTING.

I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK TO THE WORK GROUP'S DELIBERATIONS, HOW WE ARRIVED AT ANY PARTICULAR PROVISION OR THE REMAINING QUESTION IN SECTION FOUR, IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, GAR OR ECK? ANYTHING TO ADD? JOHN, GO AHEAD.

UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI FOR HIS TIRELESS WORK FOR CARRYING THE WATER ON THIS FOR THE, FOR THE PAST YEAR.

HE'S BEEN REALLY GREAT ABOUT PUTTING ALL OF THESE COMMENTS TOGETHER FROM THIS GROUP THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN LIKE HERDING CATS OVER THE PAST YEAR.

UM, AND, UH, I REALLY WANT TO, I THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN TO A REALLY GOOD POINT WITH THIS DOCUMENT, AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE ARE SO CLOSE TO THE FINISH LINE AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THIS OVER THE FINISH LINE AND GETTING THIS DONE SO THAT THE TOWN AND THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE CAN GET BACK TO A SUBSTANTIVE AND CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTIVE RELATIONSHIP GOING FORWARD.

ALRIGHT, SEEING COUNCIL MEMBER GAR JUST RAISED, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, I ALSO JUST WANNA THANK, UH, THANK, UH, COUNCIL TANZI FOR, UH, HOLDING IT DOWN , UH, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS, UH, THIS MOU DRAFT, UH, AND ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, JOHN FOR, UH, FOR BEING AS WELL.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE BEEN IN AND OUT OF IT, BUT TANZI HAS BEEN DEFINITELY, UM, DOING A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING ME IN THE LOOP AND, YOU KNOW, UH, SENDING ME NOTES AS WELL.

AND, UM, ONE THING I DO WANNA SAY IS THAT, UM, AT LEAST WHERE MY STANDS WITH, WITH THAT CLAUSE ITSELF IS, YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT ME PERSONALLY, UM, I WOULDN'T WANT TO,

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UH, GO UP AGAINST OUR TOWN ATTORNEY'S ADVICE.

UM, IT IS JUST, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, IF TO ME PERSONALLY FEELS THAT IT'S THE BEST FOR, FOR THE TOWN TO FOLLOW OUR TOWN ATTORNEY'S ADVICE.

UM, AND I GIVE BACK FOR RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THINK WE'RE OVER TO YOU.

HOW DO YOU WANNA PROCEED? OKAY.

SORRY.

YOU ONLY HAVE ONE MICROPHONE, BUT YOU HAVE TO SHARE.

GOOD.

E CAN YOU HEAR ME? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WORKING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, MY NAME'S LELA AZI.

I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD ONE.

UM, IT'S NOT, OKAY.

IT'S GREEN.

OKAY.

UM, I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD ONE AND I AM A FAIRLY NEW MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CH GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, BUT I'VE HAD, UM, THE OCCASION TO WORK WITH THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE FROM MY ENTRY INTO COUNCIL QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO, AND THEN AS MAYOR.

SO, UM, THIS, THIS EVENING, VERY GRATEFUL FOR HOW COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI HAS OUTLINED THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT.

UM, WE HAVE, ACTUALLY, SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN TOUGH JUST TO WORK THROUGH, BUT IT'S ALSO BEEN A VERY POSITIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP.

AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE WAYS IN WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER GARCI, COUNCILMEN MEMBER LOIC AND COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI HAVE, UH, APPROACHED THIS.

UM, WE ARE HERE LARGELY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THE CHEVROLET GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE HAS CONTINUED TO SERVE THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS TIME, AND THAT IS WHAT WE MOST WANT TO DO BECAUSE IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, IT REALLY IS LOCAL COMMUNITY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT ARE AT THE FRONT LINES OF MAKING SURE THAT ISSUES OF GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES OF ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES, OF THREATS TO OUR ENVIRONMENT ARE, YOU KNOW, REALLY TAKING HOLD AND, UM, THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND ALSO WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IS OFTEN, UM, UNDER ATTACK, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE, UM, REPRESENTED UP HERE AND WITHIN A MUCH LARGER BODY OF THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE VARIOUS, BOTH TECHNICAL AND OTHER SUPPORTIVE BACKGROUNDS THAT ARE WILLING TO GIVE AND CONTINUE TO BE WILLING TO GIVE OF THEMSELVES IN SUPPORT OF THE TOWN AND COMMUN COMMUNITY.

SO, THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT.

DID YOU ANYONE ELSE AT THE GO AHEAD SAY COUPLE WORDS? IT WASN'T OKAY.

I WAS, AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS LAST YEAR THAT THE MAYOR COUNCIL ESTABLISHED WORKING GROUP TO ADDRESS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CHEVROLET GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AND THE TOWN GOVERNMENT.

THAT WORK HAS TAKEN SOME TIME, BUT WE ARE PLEASED TO REPRESENT A ME MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT SATISFIES THE ENTIRE WORKING GROUP AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY AS A MUTUALLY AGREED UPON DOCUMENT.

THE MOU ALLOWS THE TOWN TO SUPPORT THE IMPORTANT ONGOING WORK OF THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, HELPING THE TOWN PRESERVE, RESTORE, AND SUSTAIN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OF BEVERLY AND SURROUNDING AREAS AS INTACT AND HEALTHY ECOSYSTEMS. UM, UNDER THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, THE COMMITTEE AND THE TOWN ARE PARTNERS IN THIS WORK.

THE WORKING GROUP HAS TAKEN THE TIME AND CARE TO COMPOSE A DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED, DISCUSSED, AND REVISED BY ALL THE DELEGATIONS TO THE GROUP HAVE MET SEPARATELY.

AND TOGETHER THE TEXT WAS SUBMITTED TO AND ADVICE SOUGHT FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY BY THE TOWN COUNCIL DELEGATION TO MAKE SURE THE INTERESTS OF THE TOWN CORPORATION WERE SATISFIED.

SO PROFOUND THANKS ARE DUE TO ALL WHO HAVE WORKED TO PREPARE THE DOCUMENT NOW BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

AND I JUST WANTED, UM, SAY THAT THE, THE LITTLE, THOSE ITEMS WHICH, UM, DAVID OUTLINED THAT ARE, UH, STILL IN UNDER DISCUSSION, UM, ARE ACTUALLY READY, READY FOR, TO TIE UP NOW.

SO, UM, WE CAN DO IT TONIGHT.

WE CAN DO NOT OUR MEETING RIGHT HERE, BUT WE CAN DO IT AFTER THIS, UH, WORK SESSION.

OR WE CAN SET UP ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER SHORT MEETING AND THEN I THINK WE'LL BE DONE.

THANK YOU.

THERE.

IT'S, UH,

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JULIA MOSLEY, WARD TWO.

UH, I JUST ALSO WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL DELEGATION.

UM, I DID NOT KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER TANZI OR COUNCIL MEMBER GARCE ALL THAT.

WELL, I KNEW, UH, JOHN WELL, BUT HAD NEVER WORKED WITH YOU ON ANYTHING.

AND THIS, THIS WAS REALLY ENJOYABLE.

IT WAS PRODUCTIVE.

IT'S EVERYTHING THE RELATIONSHIP SHOULD BE, AND I COMPLETELY ENJOYED IT.

THE TOWN ATTORNEY CAME IN, UM, REMOTELY THROUGH THE COUNCIL, UH, WITH CONCERNS AND SUGGESTIONS, WHICH, UH, HAVE ALL BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE'VE TRIED TO INCLUDE ALL OF THAT.

SO WE THANK HIM FOR HIS ATTENTION TO THE DETAIL AS WELL.

SO I AGREE WITH, UM, MS. SALLOW, THAT IT'S, IT'S REALLY TINY LITTLE THINGS, UM, HOW REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL ARE, ARE MOVED ON TO OTHER AGENCIES IS A LITTLE TRICKIER, BUT SOLVABLE.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

OOPS.

OFF.

MIGHT AS WELL JOIN THE PARTY HERE.

JOYCE JONES, WARD TWO.

I HAVE TO PAUSE 'CAUSE I WAS IN WARD ONE FOR A WHILE.

UM, JUST REALLY WANNA REITERATE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HERE HAS SAID.

UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE HERE IS BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND SOME POLITICAL THINGS.

AND, UH, EVEN A TEENY LITTLE TOWN LIKE CHEVROLET, WE HAVE POLITICS THAT COME IN.

AND I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC EXAMPLE OF THAT SMALL TOWN SPIRIT OF WHEN YOU TAKE THE TIME TO STOP, TO LISTEN, TO MEET IN PERSON, TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE, TO EXPLAIN YOUR FEARS, YOUR WORRIES ABOUT PROTECTING THE TOWN OR THE RUMORS REVERT OR WHATEVER, YOU CAN GET THROUGH IT AND YOU CAN EVEN HAVE FUN.

LIKE JULIA SAID, AND I, I SHOULD THANK JULIA AND DAVID ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, UH, THEY BOTH WERE GRACIOUSLY HOSTING MOST OF THESE MEETINGS AT THEIR HOMES WITH REFRESHMENTS, SOME OF THEM BY ZOOM.

I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY HOURS WENT INTO THIS.

AND I JUST AM VERY THANKFUL TO EVERYONE.

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, I THINK WE GET DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE OF CAREFULLY EXCEPTIONALISM, BUT JUST, JUST IN, IN A BROADER SENSE, A SMALLER TOWN WHERE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER AND CARE TO TAKE THE TIME TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD IN A POSITIVE FASHION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO THE OTHER FOUR OF US THAT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR THREE COLLEAGUES OR, UH, FOR THE GICI DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY.

WE NEED SOMETHING FROM TOWN ATTORNEY.

I'M ALMOST THERE.

OKAY.

UH, OKAY.

NOT SEEING ANY THEN.

UH, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, MR. DELOACH, BUT DID YOU HAVE ANY, UM, ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO OFFER AT THIS TIME? MAYOR? UM, UH, NO, MAYOR, I ECHO ALL THE COMMENTS.

UM, SORRY IF I'M KIND OF LOUD, , ECHO ALL THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID.

UM, WHEN YOU GET INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, UH, LOOKING AT A DOCUMENT, UM, SOMETIMES IT CAN TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO GET IT DONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, USUALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY WORKABLE DOCUMENT AND, UH, I JUST WANNA APPLAUD EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON FOR A YEAR ON A DOCUMENT.

UH, IT MEANS A LOT.

SO, UH, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.

UH, MAYOR, THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. GALLOWAY, YOU'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNSEL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. WADE? I JUST LOVE TO HEAR THE FACT NO ONE, NUMBER ONE COMMITTEE OF MY FELLOW, UM, COLLEAGUES HERE, UM, ON THE COUNCIL FOR TAKING ON THIS TASK.

AND OF COURSE TO, UM, ONE OF OUR, UM, IMPORTANT OR PARTNERING ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU, YOU HEAR THE NEGATIVITY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS WORKING WITH WHAT I CALL KEY STAKEHOLDERS WHO, UH, MOVE THIS TOWN.

AND CLEARLY THE LEVEL OF NOT JUST EXPERTISE, BUT THE LEVEL OF CARE AND, UH, DUE PRUDENCE, UH, REGARDING DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT TRUE DEMOCRACIES ABOUT.

WE WILL NOT ALWAYS GET ALONG AND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE, BUT TO COME, UH, WITH A LEVEL OF COMPROMISE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK ON LARGER LEVELS IN OUR GOVERNMENT WHERE, UM, A LOT OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE, UH, GOING AWAY FROM, SO IN OUR LITTLE SMALL, LITTLE OKIE DOPE TOWN OF CHEV THAT WE ARE SETTING THE PRECEDENCE OF WHAT CIVIL, UH, PRUDENCE AND, UM, DOING THE RIGHT THING AS FAR AS MAKING DECISION, MAKING PROCESS THAT

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AFFECTS, UM, OUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS.

UM, THIS IS A TRUE EXAMPLE OF THAT.

SO I APPLAUD YOU ALL FOR THAT.

YOU BE YEAH, ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT, ALL THAT.

THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, I RARELY FEEL THIS GOOD ABOUT A DISCUSSION.

SO, UH, I MEAN, MY MOOD IS RARELY, UM, THIS POSITIVE.

UH, I DO .

I THINK, UM, I, I DO THINK THAT WE WILL GET TO A COMPROMISE ON 62 OR 64, WHICHEVER THAT LINE IS.

I THINK WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL ULTIMATELY RETAIN AUTHORITY OVER WHAT IT SENDS.

BUT, UH, I THINK WE'LL GET THERE.

UM, SOMEONE WITH BETTER, WITH A BETTER VOCABULARY THAN ME WILL FIND SOME LANGUAGE THAT WILL THREAD THAT NEEDLE, I THINK.

UH, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT? G-I-C-M-O-U THAT WAS PUT, WE ONLY HAVE ONE MORE HERE IN THE ROOM, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME ONLINE, UH, THE DRAFT MOU WAS IN THE PACKET, SO IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

NOT SEEING ANY, UH, UH, THEN COUNSEL, WHAT SHALL WE DO NEXT? UM, WORKING BACKWARDS, I THINK, UH, THIS NEEDS TO GO ON A TOWN MEETING AGENDA.

DO WE WANT TO HAVE THREE READINGS OF IT, OR HOW MANY WORK? HOW MANY TOWN MEETINGS DO YOU WANT THIS ON? LESS THAN 64.

IT'S EITHER ONE, TWO, OR THREE.

THOSE ARE ONLY THREE OPTIONS, CORRECT? IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE, IT'S AN MOU AN MOU.

YOU.

ARE YOU RECOMMENDING ONE, ONE COUNSEL, WHAT DO YOU THINK? YOU OKAY WITH ONE? ARE YOU I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE AGREED ON THE LANGUAGE, RIGHT? UM, AND I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

SO IT LITERALLY HAPPENS TONIGHT.

UM, I I, I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE THIS GETS TO SEE IT.

UM, I CAN'T HEAR.

AND SINCE WE ARE HAVING OUR SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION IN OCTOBER, YEAH.

UH, I THINK GETTING IT ON THE OCTOBER TOWN MEETING WOULD BE, THAT'S TOO SHORT.

YEAH, THAT'S TOO SHORT.

BUT I THINK NOVEMBER'S, YEAH, BUT I THINK NOVEMBER'S FINE.

I'M SORRY.

I THINK NOVEMBER IS FINE FOR A, UM, FOR IT TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND WE CAN GET IT OUT, UM, AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT MM-HMM .

PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME IN AND SPEAK TO IT.

CAN I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, I MEAN, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL AUDIENCE TODAY, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S COMING UP ON THE AGENDA AND CAN SPEAK TO IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CONCERN THEY HAVE.

WELL, AND I THINK TO YOUR POINT, IF WE DO IT IN NOVEMBER, THEN WE HAVE TIME TO PUT IT IN THE NEWSLETTER.

MR. GALLOWAY, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION OR YOU'RE GOOD? THAT'S PERFECT.

I'M HEARING ONE MEETING IS SUFFICIENT AS LONG AS IT'S A TOWN MEETING.

OKAY, MAYOR, THAT'S NOVEMBER.

SO, UH, THEN WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE LANGUAGE, GET IT IN THE NEWSLETTER FOR NOVEMBER AND THE 12TH.

THE 12TH IS, OH, IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE.

THE 12TH IS THE NOVEMBER TOWN MEETING.

THE ONLY MEETING THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO HAVE IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, MR. LALO HICK.

SO JUST TO SORT OF CLARIFY, WE ARE GOING TO SORT OF TRY AND HAMMER OUT SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE NOW, AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD THEN GO BACK TO THIS GROUP, THE SMALLER GROUP, AND THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL SORT OF SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD THEN BE ON THE NOVEMBER 12TH TOWN MEETING AFTER IT HAS ALSO GONE TO THE PUBLIC FOR DISCUSSION.

I MEAN, I THINK, UM, ALMOST, I THINK, UH, YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE ON OCTOBER 22ND, UH, AS PART OF THAT WORK SESSION.

AND THEN, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE ON THAT AGENDA, OR YOU COULD JUST GIVE US, BUT WE COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA OR NOT.

BUT YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE ON HOW THE, UM, BILATERAL NEGOTIATIONS ARE GOING.

AND THEN, UH, YES, EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SAID, I THINK I, AND JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THAT'S GOOD WITH YOUR SIDE OF THE TABLE.

YES.

AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S, I THINK WE NEED ONE MORE JOINT MEETING AND IT SHOULD BE A REPORT, NOT A BIG AGENDA ITEM.

UM, FOR THE UPDATE, I THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE VERY QUICKLY.

MOST OF THIS IS WHAT CAME BACK FROM THE ATTORNEY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS AND

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OTHER ISSUES THAT HE HAD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.

SO, GO AHEAD PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE TAKING THE, THE SLOW ROAD IN THAT.

YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMITTEE AND VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COUNCIL IS FOR THERE TO BE THE TRANSPARENCY IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS.

AND THERE'S NO NEED TO HURRY THIS UP.

UM, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TAKE THE TIME THAT WE DID, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE MANNER IN WHICH WE TAKE THIS FROM HERE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT SUPPORT.

SO YOU CAN STILL, I STILL FEEL VERY GOOD THAT MY MOOD HAS NOT CHANGED IN THE LAST SEVEN MINUTES.

, UH, AND YOU'RE WELL UNDER 40 MINUTES.

.

YES.

THIS WILL MERIT A CHAMPAGNE CELEBRATION AT THE, UH, NOVEMBER.

YOU GUYS GOT A TRAVEL ORANGE CRUSHES OR SOMETHING? THAT'S BUILDING NOTE.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU.

UH, ALRIGHT THEN, UH, WE TOOK CARE OF THAT.

SO, MR. GALLOWAY, I THINK THAT TAKES US TO YOUR ADMINISTRATOR REPORT.

I THINK.

DID I MISS ANYTHING? THAT'S CORRECT.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST A FEW ITEMS TO REPORT ON, UH, THIS EVENING.

UH, MAJOR THINGS TO THE TOWN STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND READINESS TO SERVE DURING THE CH DAY DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER.

THE FIREWORKS DISPLAY HAS BEEN, UH, RESCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER THE 30TH.

UH, THE TOWN STAFF WILL COURT WILL BE COORDINATING WITH ST.

AMBROSE AND THE SHELBY DAY COMMITTEE REGARDING PARTICIPATION AND ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THE RESCHEDULED FIREWORK CELEBRATION.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THAT? UH, FOR FOREST WROTE, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

WHAT TIME, SINCE WE'RE HAVING THE HAUNTED HOUSE THAT NIGHT, IS THIS AFTER? IS THIS AT THE SAME TIME? I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY AT SOME POINT TO THE COMMUNITY, JOIN US AT THIS O'CLOCK FOR EVENTS AND THEN THAT O'CLOCK FOR FIREWORKS.

FIREWORKS WILL, UH, BEGIN AT EIGHT 30.

OKAY.

FOREST ROAD EROSION.

I KNOW THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FRY, THIS HAS BEEN, UH, A POINT OF, UH, DISCUSSION.

UH, JUST WANTED TO LET MAYOR AND COUNCIL KNOW THAT ON THE OCTOBER THE 22ND MEETING, THE TOWN IS SCHEDULED TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM ENGINEER MIKE KLAR AND OR THE LOW IMPACT DESIGN CENTER REGARDING THE WORKS PERFORMED ALONG THE FOREST ROAD REGARDING THE EROSION.

UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, A FEW YEARS AGO, THE TOWN RECEIVED A $500,000, UH, EARMARK, IF YOU WILL, FROM, UH, THE STATE OF MARYLAND REGARDING THIS MATTER.

SO, UM, THIS IS, UH, THE WORKS PERFORMED ALONG FOREST ROAD WAS THE MAJORITY OF, OF THAT.

SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE UPDATE THAT WILL BE PRESENTED THAT EVENING.

UM, AS WE TRANSITION OUT OF, UH, THE ENGINEER OF MIKE CLARK, UH, LIDC WILL BEGIN TAKING THIS PROJECT OVER IN ITS ENTIRETY.

SO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WAS AWARE OF THAT.

ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? OKAY.

UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN THE COMMUNITY, YOUR AGENDAS MAY LOOK JUST A, A TAD BIT DIFFERENT.

UH, WE HAVE UPGRADED OUR AGENDA AND MEETING MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

UM, WE ARE STILL, UH, TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF IT, BUT THANKS TO THE TOWN CLERK.

UM, MS. RICHARDS, UM, WE DO HAVE AN, A NEW AND IMPROVED, UM, AGENDA AND MEETING SOFTWARE.

UM, IT WILL BE USER FRIENDLY.

SO UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THE PLACES WHERE WE COULD ONLINE UNDERLINE, UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE, BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN THIS SOFTWARE BECAUSE ONLINE IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THE ATTACHMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH ITEM.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE'VE, UH, INDICATED THAT WE WILL HAVE A ASTERISK FOR A DOUBLE ASTERISK FOR RESIDENT INPUT.

RESIDENT INPUT, AND ONE ASTERISK FOR, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL VOTING.

UM, SO THAT THAT'S A WAY THAT WE CAN GET, UH, THE WAY AROUND IT.

BUT, UM, MORE UPDATES WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU ALL ON THAT.

UM, UM, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THE

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TRAINING AND FEATURES THAT ARE ON THE, OKAY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND RESIDENCE.

UM, THE NEW SOFTWARE, IT'S GONNA, ONCE EVERYONE IS TRAINED, IT WILL ALLOW MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO VOTE IN THE APP.

IN THE PORTAL, UH, RECORDS YOUR VOTE, IT RECORDS YOUR ATTENDANCE.

YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE BEHIND THE SCENES ACCESS TO, IF YOU NEED TO ANNOTATE ANYTHING, UM, ON THE AGENDA.

YOU CAN DO SO ONLINE.

YOU CAN DO IT FROM YOUR COMPUTER.

UM, FOR THE RESIDENTS, THE ONLINE PORTAL WILL BE DIFFERENT.

IT IS NOT PUBLISHED YET BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE IT LOOKS ALL THE WAY GOOD FOR YOU.

BUT IT ALLOWS YOU TO CLICK ON AN AGENDA ITEM AND CLICK ON THE ACTUAL, UM, PRESENTATION THAT GOES WITH THE ITEM AND FOLLOW ALONG THAT WAY.

SO, LOOKING FORWARD TO ROLLING IT OUT AS SOON AS WE MAKE SURE IT WORKS ALL THE WAY.

RIGHT.

UNTIL THEN, THE AGENDA JUST LOOKS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT, THAT'S THE WAY IT PRINTS, BUT IT'S NOT, I TRY NOT TO MAKE IT TOO, YOU KNOW, TOO FAR OFF FROM WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE UPDATED TOWN OF CH MAP, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MS. SALO FOR, FOR THIS AS WELL FOR HER COORDINATING EFFORTS WITH, UH, MARYLAND NATIONAL CAPITAL PARK AND PLANNING.

BUT, UM, AND MADAM CLERK HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY PARK AND PLANNING COMMISSION TO, UM, INCORPORATE THE ANNEXATION STATION, UM, INTO THE, UH, INTO THE, UH, MAP.

AND, UM, UH, SEVEN, WELL, WELL, I MEAN, I CAN'T SEE THAT, SIR.

CAN HE GOT EVERYTHING? HE GOT EVERYTHING.

WELL, WELL, WELL, WELL, WELL, I'LL SAY THIS, I'LL SAY THIS.

UM, THERE ARE NO HOUSES THERE NOW.

OKAY.

UM, IT'S JUST, ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S FINE.

IT JUST, IT'S JUST 44 MORE ACRES.

HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 2026.

UM, 2030 IS WHEN THE CENSUS IS SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED.

AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO REDO OUR, OUR REDO OUR BOUNDARIES AGAIN, UM, THAT YEAR.

SO, UM, FOR NOW, YES, ALL OF IT WENT TO WARD ONE FOR THE SAKE OF, THERE WERE NO, THERE WERE NO HOUSES AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE REDRAWING AND THE REDISTRICTING OF, OF, OF THE, UM, OF THE BOUNDARIES.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE IN 2031, THAT'S GONNA LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

UM, AND POTENTIALLY THERE COULD BE ANOTHER WARD OR TWO ADDED, DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THAT TIME CONCLUDES WITH.

SO, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THIS HAS BEEN POSTED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE.

WE WILL BE PRINTING OUT ONE OF THE LARGER MAPS TO PUT INSIDE OF THE TOWN FACILITY, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE UPDATED TOWN OF CHEVROLET MAPS.

SO THANK YOU.

PARKING PLANNING, AND WE'VE EXTENDED OUR 44 ACRES AND, UH, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

SO, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ON THAT? THANK YOU.

YES, HONOR.

THANK YOU.

.

UH, ON SEPTEMBER THE 14TH, PEPSI NOTIFIED THE TOWN EIGHT MINUTES BEFORE THE NOTIFICATION TO THE EMPLOYEES.

I HAVE TO ADD THAT THE CHEVROLET PEPSI PLANT WOULD BE LAYING OFF THE WORKERS THERE.

OKAY.

UH, SINCE THEN, UM, I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OR ENTITY HERE, BUT I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHY I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH DOING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE.

I HAVE CONTACTED THE PRINCE GEORGE EMPLOYER, PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE IMPACTED CAN LAND ON THEIR FEET.

UH, EMPLOYEE PRINCE GEORGE'S WILL BE HAVING A JOB FAIR FOR THE IMPACTED EMPLOYEES.

AND SINCE THEN, TWO THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.

UH, COCA-COLA HAS, AND I, I MEAN I PREFER COCA-COLA ANYWAY, SO I'M JUST KIDDING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, COCA-COLA HAS CONTACTED ME WANTING TO, UM, INQUIRE ABOUT THE IMPACTED EMPLOYEES.

THEY HAVE TWO FACILITIES WITHIN DRIVING DISTANCE.

ONE IN SILVER SPRING AND ONE IN BALTIMORE.

AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO HOST A JOB FAIR HERE IN THE TOWN IN THE GYM FOR THE IMPACTED EMPLOYEES.

SO, UM, I AM WORKING WITH THE GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT LIAISON OF PEPSI, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET THE IMPACTED WORKERS' INFORMATION TO HOST SUCH JOB FAIR.

SO, UM, THAT IS UNDERWAY AS WE SPEAK.

UM, THE SECOND, UH, THING THAT HAS HAPPENED A

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WELL, WOW, , YOU SAID THE E-WASTE AND AN E-WASTE COMPANY HAS AL ALSO EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE ACTUAL FACILITY? UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UH, I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF PEPSI IS GOING TO ENTERTAIN ANY OFFERS AT THIS TIME.

I, I DO KNOW THAT THE COUNTY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PEPSI AS THAT WILL BE A FOUNDATIONAL PORTION OF THE NEW, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE HAPPENING.

SO, UM, I'LL KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED AS I CONTINUE TO HEAR THINGS, UH, REGARDING THAT FRONT, BUT THAT, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, DAVID? SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, JUST ON A LIGHTER MATTER, IF COKE, COCA-COLA COMES TO THE GYM, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THEY BRING MEXICAN COKE AND THEN I, UH, YEAH, IT'S CANE SUGAR.

EXACTLY.

I, I GREW UP WITH CANE SUGAR COKE AND I CAN'T DRINK THE STUFF NOW WITH HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP.

SO, UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW THE SPECS OF THE BUILDING IF YOU CAN GET THEM.

I'VE BEEN DOING SOME COLD CALL SOLICITATIONS TO TRY TO RECRUIT PEOPLE TO, TO TOWN.

SO I KNOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE 'CAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE OLD, UH, KENNELWORTH INDUSTRIAL STUDY.

BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, CEILING HEIGHTS, UH, POWER, THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE HAD UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND COME TO VISIT A FEW WEEKS AGO TO LOOK AT THE, UH, CRAFTSMAN WAREHOUSE AND THEY HAD SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS AND THEY'RE NOT READY TO ROLL FOR TWO YEARS, THEY SAID.

SO IF PEPSI IS SLOW ROLLING OUT, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, UM, EITHER SUGGEST OR TAKE TO MEDCO TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S A PLACEMENT FROM FROM UMD.

IF THEY GET THE EARMARK THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING TO GET, UH, COULD WE GET SOME MEDCO INVESTMENT TO, TO TAKE THAT HISTORIC BUILDING AND UH, BRING IT UP TO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE SPEC THAT MARYLAND NEEDS.

TORY, UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND NEEDS.

WILL DO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WAS AMAZON MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY? I WAS GONNA ASK IF NO, I WAS GONNA ASK IF WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON YOUR MEETING FROM THE 29TH.

I, I, I'LL GET THERE IN A MINUTE.

OKAY.

UM, REGARDING PROJECT CHARGE, UH, THE COMMUNITY CENTER WILL BE, SORRY, I'M SORRY MR. WADE.

OH, GO AHEAD.

YOU MENTIONED, WAS IT EEW RECYCLING? WHAT'S IT CALLED? E-WASTE? E-WASTE.

AN E-WASTE COMPANY.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

E-WASTE COMPANY, ELECTRONIC ELECTRONIC WASTE, LIKE DISPOSING OF TOXIC ELECTRONICS, IPADS AND COMMERCIAL STUFF.

THAT WOULD BE A NEGATIVE, PROBABLY WORTH A LOT OF INVESTIGATION.

I WAS JUST MAKING THE TALENT AWARE THAT, THAT THAT THEY INQUIRED.

YEAH.

I AS A PERSON, UM, WHO WORKS IN THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND WORK WITH EMPLOYEE PRINCE GEORGE, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FOR, UM, MAKING THAT TRANSITION.

UM, MY FAMILY AND A LOT OF THESE FAMILIES KNOW ABOUT BEING LAID OFF OR FOR RIGHT OR WRONG REASONS ALL OF A SUDDEN.

AND TO SEE THAT SHOVEL IS TAKING THE, THE TAKING THE BULL BY THE HORNS.

AND, UM, THESE ARE NOT MOSTLY, PROBABLY NOT RESIDENTS OF SHELBY, BUT AGAIN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND MAKING SURE THAT THESE FAMILIES LAND ON THEIR FEET.

SO I WANNA COMMEND YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM, UH, FOR DOING THAT.

IT JUST, AGAIN, SHOWS TO THE LEVEL OF WHAT SHELBY STANDS FOR.

ARE YOU, SORRY, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INDUSTRIAL STUFF, UM, I SENT OUT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND BUSINESS SCHOOL STUDY TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND, UH, SOME OF WHAT I'M HOPING THAT WILL SPUR AS A DISCUSSION OF WHAT TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE ZONING AUTHORITY OVER THAT SITE, BUT IT IS ALREADY A VERY GENEROUS ZONING CODE, UH, INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYMENT THAT I THINK WE WANT TO LEAN INTO.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT INDUSTRIAL.

SO I THINK THE MORE WE DEVELOP AN EXPLICIT, UH, INDUSTRIAL POLICY AS A TOWN, THE EASIER IT IS TO HAVE COMPANIES SELF SORT TO SAY, WE DO NOT WANT THINGS WITH HIGH CHANCE OF LEAKAGE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT.

MOVING ON, ON THE AGENDA.

THERE IS ALSO, UH, A POTENTIAL, UH,

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WE'VE BEEN VERBALLY OFFERED SOME MONEY FROM, UH, MEDCO TO HAVE A FORMAL STUDY DONE RATHER THAN A GRAD STUDENT STUDY.

UH, DONE.

UM, SO I WILL, I WANT TO INCLUDE YOU, I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN INCLUDED ON THE EMAILS, BUT I WANNA INCLUDE EVERYBODY IN IN THAT AND ONCE WE CAN GET SOMETHING IN WRITING, I WANT TO BRING THEM INTO THE ABSOLUTELY.

THE TOWN.

BECAUSE IF WE COULD GET THAT STUDY DONE, MY HOPE IS WE CAN BOTH CREATE SOMETHING THAT SERVES THE TOWN, BUT ALSO SERVES OUR NEIGHBORS.

BECAUSE ALL OF OUR, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF OLD MUNICIPALITIES HERE ALL ALONG THIS 800 PLUS ACRE INDUSTRIAL STRIP.

AND I'D LOVE IT IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME COMMON LANGUAGE TO SAY, HEY, COUNTY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, UM, IN THIS NEAR, UH, NEAR THE CITY INDUSTRIAL, UH, LAND THAT IS METRO PROXIMATE, WHICH IS UNUSUAL, UM, AND ALONG A RIVER, RIGHT.

AND I THINK IF WE CAN COME UP WITH THE RIGHT LANGUAGE THERE, THAT IS STILL SERVING THE BUSINESSES THAT WE WANT, UM, BUT ALSO CREATING A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF TOWN AND ESPECIALLY THE RIVER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS MIGHT END UP EXACERBATING THAT 'CAUSE THE, THE COUNTY'S GONNA PAY ATTENTION TO PEPSI MM-HMM .

SO IF WE HAVE THEIR, THEIR ATTENTION, MAYBE THIS IS THE TIME TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT WILL DO.

SO YOU WANT TO PUT THIS, YOU WANT TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM AND AN UPCOMING, I WANNA HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE YET READY TO HAVE THE AGENDA ITEM IN SHORT ORDER, BUT IN EARLY IN THE NEW YEAR, I THINK WE CAN BE PUT IN THIS, MAKING THIS PART OF THE SPRING BRING, UM, SPRING AGENDA MORE BROADLY.

UM, THE, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE'D HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM MEDCO, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO, UH, PUT IT ON, ON AN AGENDA.

BUT IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM MEDCO, THEN WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE FROM MEDCO HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID, UH, IN A MEETING I WAS IN, YOU KNOW, FIND THE MONEY.

SO I'M HOPING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO FIND THE MONEY AND I'M HOPING WE CAN PRESSURE THEM TO, TO FIND THE MONEY SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST A, A WAY TO PLACATE, UH, AN ANNOYING COUNCIL MEMBER FROM CH MARYLAND.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

JIM BLEACHERS.

GYM BLEACHERS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, BEFORE I GET TO GYM BLEACHERS, UM, SINCE WE'RE IN THE INDUSTRIAL PART, I DON'T KNOW, WELL, AMAZON WASN'T MENTIONED.

UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW, EARLIER THIS WEEK THERE WAS A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO, UH, PARK AND PLANNING, UH, REGARDING THE CRAFTSMAN BUILDING AND, UH, THE, THE BUSINESS THAT SUBMITTED THAT WAS ON BEHALF OF AMAZON.

OKAY.

SO, UM, UH, MR. GOODE ATTENDED THE MEETING WITH, UH, CONCERNS ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN OF CHEV.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING THEY STILL HAVE IS THAT, UM, AMAZON STILL HAS A LOT OF HURDLES TO CLEAR, UH, BEFORE EVEN BEING CONSIDERED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

UM, SO I JUST URGE YOU TO PLEASE BE AWARE OF, OF, OF THAT, UH, BECAUSE IT COULD NOT ONLY INCREASE, UM, TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, BUT MAKE KENILWORTH AVENUE 50, THAT ENTIRE AREA THAT WE SPOKE OF THAT'S ALREADY DANGEROUS, A MORE DANGEROUS INTERSECTION, BUT ALSO, UM, IT, IT WILL, UH, NOT BE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH, UH, THE VEHICLES COMING IN AND GOING OUT.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GET INFORMATION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WILL UPDATE THE MARION COUNCIL AND THIS NEEDS TO BE A, A TOWN COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

UM, I, I ASSUME THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T, DOESN'T WANT THIS, UH, WE WANT MORE BUSINESSES, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ALLUDED TO EARLIER.

AND, UM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER, UM, WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS TO ENSURE THAT IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF THIS, WE CAN GO AHEAD.

I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTATE THE PROSPECT OF THIS UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND, UH, EARMARK, BUT, UH, THE MAYOR WAS ON THIS, UH, WALKTHROUGH AS WELL.

AND THE ENCOURAGING THING WAS THAT THE BROKER DID SAY THAT THEY HAD AN OFFER FROM AMAZON.

THEY SAID WITHOUT SAYING SO DIRECTLY, THAT IT WAS ABOUT 20% BELOW THEIR ASKING PRICE.

SO THEY WERE WILLING TO GIVE A NUMBER, UH, FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND TO COME IN.

AND THE FACT THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO GIVE IT MEANT THAT THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE SOMETHING OTHER THAN AMAZON.

RIGHT.

AND I HAVE ACTUALLY SPOKEN TO THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE

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BUILDING ON THIS MATTER, AND HE HAS ALSO EXPRESSED, UH, AN INTEREST IN SOMETHING OTHER THAN AMAZON BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL ABOUT THIN MARGINS.

UM, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO INVEST IN THE AREA, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THEIR PROFIT, WHICH I WON'T SAY I BLAME THEM FOR EXACT EXACTLY.

BUT IT'S WHY WE HAVE TO DECIDE, DO WE WANT TO BE A PRIMARILY LOGISTICS HUB OR DO WE WANT TO BE, UH, A PLACE THAT SEES THE, THE COMMUNITY, THE METRO, THE RIVER AS ASSETS THAT HELP IT RECRUIT TALENT, ET CETERA, SO THAT IT INVESTS IN, UH, THE LOCAL AREA.

THE REASON I I SAY THEY, THEY GAVE A NUMBER WAS, UH, THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND'S POSITION WAS THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO SPEND MONEY UNNECESSARILY AT A TIME WHEN THEY'RE CUTTING BUDGET AND CUTTING POSITIONS.

TOTALLY, UNDERSTANDABLY SO.

I DID TRY TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE BUILDING THAT THIS IS NOT A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AND IF WE COULD GET, UH, THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND TO COMMIT TO COME HERE, THE TOWN BENEFITS BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, ADVANCED INDUSTRY AND ENGINEERING JOBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH ALSO MEANS WE HAVE DAYTIME POPULATION TO GO TO THE 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL UP THE HILL AT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

BUT ALSO, ONCE YOU HAVE ONE OF THEM, IT IS A LOT EASIER TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE TYPE OF BUSINESS WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE.

SO THIS UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND STUDY WE HAD, UH, DONE OVER THE SUMMER, UH, WONDERFULLY USED TED CO'S DATA ON TEDCO PLACEMENTS AND IT IDENTIFIED 20 PLACEMENTS, SORRY, 20 COMPANIES THAT WERE PLACED IN SOMETHING LIKE THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT REQUIRE INDUSTRIAL LAND.

AND OF THOSE 20, THEY SAID 12 WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD FITS FOR OUR AREA, MEANING THEY NEEDED INDUSTRIAL, THEY WOULD'VE WANTED METRO, ET CETERA.

AND SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT BY C HAVING AN EXPRESSED OPINION ON THIS, WE CAN SAY TO A, UM, AGENCIES, I GUESS IS THE RIGHT TERM, CORPORATIONS LIKE TEDCO, WE WANT TO BE THE FIRST PLACE WHERE YOU LOOK RIGHT.

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL AND WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE IT PROVIDES GOOD JOBS, BUT WE WANT INDUSTRIAL THAT WANTS TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST GET THE LOWEST POSSIBLE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT.

RIGHT.

UM, AND I WILL SAY ABOUT THE CRAFTSMAN BUILDING, IT IS A HUMONGOUS SITE AND A GOOD CHUNK OF IT IS STORM STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, RIGHT? SO BY, BY REDEVELOPING THAT SITE, WE IMPROVED THE ECONOMIC OUTCOME OF THAT SAME LAND BECAUSE A LOT I'VE, I'VE LOOKED UP A LOT AS MR. GALLOWAY KNOWS, I'VE LOOKED UP A LOT OF BUILDINGS IN THE AREA AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE BUILT IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE CHEAP BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT IT MEANS NO ONE HAS TO UPDATE THEM UNLESS THEY MAKE SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATIONS TO THEM.

SO THERE AREN'T, UH, THEY AREN'T BROUGHT TO, TO MODERN CODE, WHICH IS MUCH MORE DEMANDING.

UM, AND THEN LONG TERM, I HOPE WE CAN HAVE THIS LANGUAGE AND WE CAN ALSO GET THE COUNTY TO SAY, HEY, SINCE THIS IS NEAR METRO, NEAR THE RIVER, IT IS A UNIQUE TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL LAND THAT SHOULD HAVE ITS OWN OVERLAY THAT HAS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

AGAIN, IT CAN'T STOP BUSINESS 'CAUSE WE WANT A SUCCESSFUL INDUSTRIAL SITE, BUT IT HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, LIKE RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A POINT SYSTEM AND YOU CAN SORT OF TRADE WHAT YOU DO TO YOUR SITES, BUT WE COULD SAY YOU'RE NEAR A RIVER, EVERY SITE HAS TO HAVE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT THAT SHOULDN'T BE TRADABLE.

RIGHT? UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BENEFIT US.

SO I'M, I'M GLAD THIS IS COMING UP NATURALLY THOUGH.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE WORKERS AT PEPSI.

UM, AND DON'T FORGET MEXICAN COKE.

OKAY.

SO, UM, REGARDING THE, UH, JIM BLEACHERS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT BEGINNING ON OCTOBER THE 26TH THROUGH NOVEMBER THE SIXTH, THE GYM WILL BE CLOSED.

WE WERE DUE TO SOME, UH, RENOVATIONS AND UPGRADES.

OKAY.

UM, THE BLEACHERS WILL BE INSTALLED.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON THE, THE GYM FLOOR THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED ALONG WITH THE PADDING ON THE WALL AND ALONG THE, THE STAGE AREA, CORRECT? YES.

SO ALL THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED.

SO WE, WE ANTICIPATE OPENING BACK UP AROUND THE NOVEMBER 6TH TIMEFRAME.

UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, JUST WANT TO PUT ON YOUR RADARS NOW THAT I WILL BE REQUESTING A CLOSE MEETING AROUND THE OCTOBER 13TH, 14TH TIMEFRAME, DEPENDING UPON ATTORNEY DELOIT'S AVAILABILITY,

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UH, REGARDING THE MARYLAND FAMILY PROGRAM, UH, BASED ON PRELIMINARY RESULTS, UM, ON A CALENDAR YEAR, IT APPEARS THAT THAT'S GOING TO COST THE TOWN AROUND $70,000, UH, PER CALENDAR YEAR.

UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BEGIN, WELL, THEY, THE STATE OF MARYLAND WILL BE BEGIN COLLECTING FUNDS, UM, IN JANUARY OF 2027, UH, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR WITH THE PROGRAM TO BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED BY JANUARY OF 2028.

UM, MY INTENTION IS TO HAVE MATT PETER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LEGIT TO COME IN AND DO A SMALL PRESENTATION FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL SO THAT YOU ALL CAN BE MADE AWARE OF WHAT THE MARYLAND FAMILY PROGRAM IS.

UM, AGAIN, THIS WAS LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED BY, UH, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGARDING THE BOARD PARK COURT COURT SURVEY.

UH, AS A REMINDER TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, PLEASE, UH, PLEASE KNOW THAT THE SURVEY, IT CLOSES ON MONDAY.

UM, PLEASE ENCOURAGE YOUR RESIDENTS TO, UH, SUBMIT THEIR, UH, REQUEST BY THEN.

UH, JEN OPTIC, THE CHIEF AND I HAD A VERY GOOD MEETING WITH JEN OPTIC YESTERDAY AND, UH, UH, CORPORAL BECKER.

UM, I'VE BEEN IN MANY CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH JEN OPTIC REGARDING THE SPEED AND RED LIGHT CAMERA PROGRAM.

UM, I ANTICIPATE THAT WE COULD, UM, EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH, UH, PENDING ATTORNEY DELOS REVIEW.

UH, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT AND WANTED TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THAT.

UH, CHIEF MORRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD REGARDING GEN OPTIC? NO, SIR.

NOT AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

I'M REMINDER TO COMMAND COUNSEL THAT WE NEED FOR YOU ALL TO SUBMIT YOUR ETHIC BOARD NOMINATIONS TO THE TOWN CLERK BY NEXT MONDAY.

YEAH, THIS THE UPCOMING MONDAY.

YEAH, I THINK, UM, EVERY, IF I GUESS LET THE CLERK KNOW IF YOU PLAN ON NOMINATING ANYBODY DIFFERENT NEW, OTHERWISE, I THINK THE CLERK IS GONNA CALL THE CURRENT MEMBERS AND JUST CONFIRM THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO BE REAPPOINTED ON OCTOBER 8TH.

OKAY.

MAYOR, I, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL KEEP IT WITH YOU FOR THE RDA AND FORMER PRINCE GEORGE'S HOSPITAL SITE, IF YOU WANNA PROVIDE THAT.

YEAH, WE, WE DID A SITE VISIT WITH THE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY OWNER OF RECORD, UM, WHICH, UH, MOST OF THE SITE, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY.

NOT TOO MUCH OF THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE ON SITE BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE GENERAL ISSUES.

THE SITE VISIT WAS VERY HELPFUL IN EXPLAINING THE VEGETATION CONCERNS.

I THINK THE RDA DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR LAND WAS OR HOW THEIR LAND WAS VEGETATING AND THE WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

WE THEN, UM, AND I SHOULD HAVE SAID, UH, CHUCK BAKARI CAME WITH US AS WELL, SO THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

THEN CHUCK AND I TOOK THE RDA ON A TOUR OF THE CHEVROLET STREETS, SO WE WENT DOWN TREMONT, WE WENT TO THE END OF HAWTHORNE, WE WENT TO THE END OF GREENLEAF TO SHOW THE RDA THEIR LAND AND THE WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO MAINTAIN THE VEGETATION LINES, UH, THAT ABUT THE HOUSES IN WARD ONE AND WARD.

TWO QUESTIONS AS A REMINDER, DEDICATION WILL BE ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER THE 16TH AT 3:00 PM THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR POSITION HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE AND THE CH BUSINESS MEETING WILL BE ON OCTOBER THE 14TH AT 12 O'CLOCK NOON IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

MAYOR.

THIS IS MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS ALSO TO INFORM YOU ALL THAT HALF OF MY STAFF WILL ATTEND, UM, A TRAINING AND FACILITATION TOMORROW, OCTOBER THE SECOND AT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM IN WASHINGTON, DC WHILE THE SECOND HALF WILL ATTEND ON OCTOBER THE NINTH.

UH, THIS EXCLUDES THE

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POLICE OFFICERS JUST DUE TO SCHEDULING.

UM, HOWEVER, UH, CHIEF MORRIS WILL, UH, BE CREATIVE ON THE TRAININGS THAT, UH, THEY RECEIVE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT TOMORROW, OCTOBER THE SECOND AND OCTOBER THE NINTH, WE WILL BE, UM, IN TRAININGS, UH, FOR THE DURATION FOR THE ENTIRE DAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, I'M SORRY.

THERE'S ONE MORE.

IT WAS KIND OF BUNCHED IN HERE, THE REPUBLIC OF CAMEROON.

UM, LAST YEAR, UM, CAMEROON SENT A DELEGATION TO THE TOWN C UM, THE MAYOR WAS HERE ALONG WITH THE, THE VICE MAYOR.

AND, UM, IT WAS JUST A INFORMAL MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH, UH, THE CAMEROON DELEGATION.

SINCE THEN, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING THE TOWN ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS IF THE TOWN OF C WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING A SISTER CITY, QUOTE, QUOTE UNQUOTE, IF YOU WILL, WITH, UH, THE REPUBLIC OF CAMEROON.

SO, UM, IN THE NEAR FUTURE YOU MAY SEE A MOU, UH, BETWEEN THE TOWN OF CHEVROLET AND THE REPUBLIC OF CAMEROON.

I THINK THIS COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THAT MEETING.

HOWEVER, IT'S BEEN OVER, IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR AGO.

UM, AND THEY STILL HAVE A STRONG INTEREST.

UM, WE DO HAVE A RESIDENT AND A STAFF MEMBER MM-HMM .

UM, THAT, UH, LIVED IN CAMEROON AND, UH, NOW WORKS HERE IN THE TOWN OF CH SO PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY CAME WAS TO CHECK IN ON THE RESIDENT.

SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

UM, YOU MAY BE RECEIVING AN MOU JUST ESTABLISH A, THAT RELATIONSHIP, UM, BUT IT WILL BE VETTED BY ATTORNEY DELOACH BEFORE, UH, GETTING TO YOU ALL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS FOR ME, MR. WADE? SURE.

SO DOES, DOES THIS MEAN THAT WE, WE AS A DELEGATION NEED TO GO TO CAMEROON TO GET SOME GOOD JOLLOF RICE AND POTATO GREENS? I MEAN, IF, IF THEY PAY FOR IT, I'M SURE THAT I'M, I'M, I'M FIRST TO, TO VOLUNTEER MYSELF TO DO SO PROGRAM, YES.

SELFLESS.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL.

COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT HIS REPORT? IS IT WITH A PARTICULAR MUNICIPALITY IN CAMEROON OR YES, IT IS.

DO WE KNOW IT, THE NAME? I GOTTA LOOK IT UP AND SEE IF IT LOOKS LIKE SHE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH, WHICH MUNICIPALITY OR HAMLET IT IS, BUT IT WOULD BE ON THE CITY.

IT WOULD BE COMPARABLE SIZE.

OKAY.

IT WOULDN'T BE A MAJOR CITY AND IT WOULDN'T BE A PROVINCE BECAUSE MARYLAND HAS SISTER CITY RELATIONS, SISTER PROVINCE RELATIONSHIPS WITH PROVINCES IN ABOUT 12 COUNTRIES.

I THINK THAT THE MARYLAND SECRETARY OF STATE MANAGES, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL MATTER.

I DO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ONGOING ISSUES WITH WSSE AND PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT ON NOVEMBER 17TH, UH, KEISHA WILL BE, I'M SORRY, UH, THE, THE PRESIDENT, JUDGE, GENERAL MANAGER, YEAH.

GENERAL MANAGER, UH, WILL BE IN TOWN THAT DAY.

SO IF YOU DO HAVE ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

HOWEVER, MR. HUNTER HAS VISITED A FEW HOMES AND WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE FINDINGS, UM, SINCE THEN.

SO MR. HUNTER, IF YOU CAN.

YEAH, UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST KIND OF COMMUNICATE THAT, UH, THESE, THESE HOMES THAT I VISITED WAS NOT, UH, BY VIRTUE OF ME TAKING SOME PROACTIVE NATURE.

IT WAS, UH, LITERALLY, UH, FOLKS, RESIDENTS REACHED OUT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT JUST TO COMMUNICATE SOME THINGS INSIDE SOME QUESTIONS.

UH, I WENT TO THREE LOCATIONS, UH, THAT WAS A, UH, THE BOTTOMMOST POINT THAT LIES BETWEEN 31 0 7 AND 31 0 9 PARKWAY.

I ALSO WENT TO, UH, 32 0 8 LAKE AVENUE, WHICH IS THE HOME OF THE JUSTICES AND, UH, ALSO TO 65 0 2 FOREST OAK.

UH, THEY ALL HAD DIFFERENT KINDS OF CONCERNS.

UH, I HAVE, UH, CONSULTED WITH AJA ON SOME OF HER KNOWLEDGE WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH LIDC AND

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SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IN SEEING WHAT, UH, SCOPE OF RESPONSIBILITY THOSE FOLKS, UH, HAVE DEEMED, YOU KNOW, RELEVANT IN THESE INSTANCES.

BUT THE FIRST OF THE THREE ON PARK, UH, ON UH, PARKWAY, THEY SIT FOR, YOU KNOW, QUITE SOME TIME.

THEY'VE HAD ABOUT SIX INCHES OF STANDING WATER, UH, ANYTIME AFTER IT RAINS.

AND EVEN UP TO TWO OR THREE DAYS THEREAFTER, THEY SUBMITTED VIDEOS.

UH, THE CONSULTING ENGINEER DID COME OUT TODAY WE DID A FIVE GALLON BUCKET TEST TO VERIFY THAT THE WATER WAS IN FACT STANDING DESPITE THEIR VIDEO EVIDENCE.

AND WE DID SEE THAT THERE WAS, UH, SOME STUFF THERE.

I WAS NEG, I WAS, UM, VERY HESITANT TO PROACTIVELY ALTER ANYTHING LANDSCAPE, CONCRETE OR ASPHALT WITHOUT THE GUIDANCE OF THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE ONE OF THE INITIAL REPAIRS THAT WAS GIVEN GUIDANCE AS SOMETHING PRETTY MINOR, UH, WITH THE SECOND ADDRESS.

UM, AMY AND GREG JUSTICE, THEY, IN JUST GOING THROUGH IT, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A ONE INCH ASPHALT LIP THAT IS APPROXIMATELY, UH, TWO OR THREE INCHES ACROSS COULD DO THE TRICK, UH, JUST RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET.

IT WOULD DIVERT THE WATER DOWN THE MAIN, UM, CURB AS IT SHOULD GO AND THAT WOULD GIVE THEM SOME RELIEF.

OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE DID INDICATE SOME THINGS THAT THEY WERE PURELY THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND GAVE 'EM GOOD GUIDANCE THERE.

UH, WITH 65 0 2, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK.

UH, THEIR BACKYARD HAS DEVELOPED A SPRING.

UH, THE HOLE IN THE GROUND IS ABOUT SIX INCHES IN DIAMETER AND IT IS, THE VOLUME COMING THROUGH THERE IS, IS SIGNIFICANT IN MY VIEW.

UH, SO WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND DETERMINE WHAT'S THE SOURCE OF THAT.

OF COURSE, NOTHING IS COMMUNICATED TO THE RESIDENTS WHERE ANYTHING STANDS UNTIL WE GET FURTHER STUDIES THERE.

BUT, UH, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS I DO SEE, UH, THIS RESPONSIBILITY IS QUITE AN INTIMATE ONE.

YOU KNOW, I, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE REALLY BEEN INVITED INTO PEOPLE'S PERSONAL SPACE THE WAY THAT, UH, CHEVROLET, THIS OPPORTUNITY IS PROVIDED.

AND SO, UM, I AM VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT WHAT I COMMUNICATE TO 'EM AND I WILL STAY IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

I'VE COMMITTED TO TOUCHING BASE WITH THEM ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY.

AND THEN IF THERE'S NO RESOLUTION, I'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

'CAUSE JUST INTERACTING WITH 'EM, YOU CAN TELL THE LEVEL OF CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUNTER? REAL QUICK, JUST A NOTE ON THE JUSTICES.

THEY'VE, THEY'VE HAD ISSUES WITH, UM, I GUESS I'D CALL IT BROWN WATER ISSUES AS WELL.

SO IT MIGHT BE WSSC, NOT JUST HOW WATER FLOW.

SO THAT IS AN UNFORTUNATE CORNER.

ROGER.

ROGER THAT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUNTER? IS NOVEMBER 17TH, ARE WE GONNA GO TO THE VARIOUS SITES IN TOWN WITH WSSC? YES, LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.

OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT HIS REPORT? UH, CAN I ANNOUNCE THE BIKE TRAIL? UH, SO WE RECEIVED NOTICE MAYBE THREE HOURS AGO FROM SHA.

YEAH, S-H-A-M-S-H-A THAT THE TOWN WAS AWARDED A $650,000 GRANT.

GRANT MIGHT NOT BE EXACTLY THE RIGHT WORD, BUT GRANT, UH, FOR THE 2 0 1 BIKE TRAIL, SO THE KENNELWORTH AVENUE BIKE TRAIL CONNECTION.

MISS PROM, YOU DESERVE THE CREDIT FOR THIS.

IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? NICE JOB.

I ACCEPT PARTIAL CREDIT, UH, SHARED WITH MS. MS. TANYA JONES.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU MS. JONES AS WELL.

UH, OKAY, I THINK THAT TAKES US TO ITEM 10 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FRY AND COUNCIL MEMBER GAR WITH ANY UPDATES ABOUT CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENTS.

UH, YEAH, THERE'S NO, UH, MAJOR UPDATES AT THIS TIME.

UM, CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENTS HAS RECENTLY GONE THROUGH EXCHANGE OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WITH, UH, SAMANTHA WEBB.

UH, SHE NOW SERVED AS A NEW PROPERTY MANAGER UH, PREVIOUSLY WAS MR. DIMITRIS.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, LIKE, LIKE ANY, EVERYTHING ELSE AND MAINTAINING AND, AND MAINTAINING AND TRAINING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, CSA ALWAYS SHOULD BE IMPORTANT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ENSURE THAT LIVING CONDITIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO, UM, MEET EXPECTATIONS.

UM, AND THAT ANY, ANY CERTAIN OR ADDRESS IN A TIMELY MATTER.

UM, ALSO THE AIR CONDITIONING HAS BEEN SHUT OFF FOR THE UPCOMING SEASONS.

UM, WHICH KIND OF LEADS TO MY NEXT POINT, UH, MORE TOWARDS MR. .

UM, IF WE COULD, UH, IF

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WE COULD MAYBE START AN WELL STARTING EMAIL THREAD OR, OR COMMUNICATION WITH, UH, CSA REGARDING THEIR PLANS FOR THE UPCOMING WINTER SEASON, UM, PARTICULARLY CONCERNING THE SNOW AND ICE REMOVAL LAST WINTER.

UH, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF EARLY TALK ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY.

UM, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER LAST WINTER, I MEAN, IT, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS CRAZY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE SNOW AND THE ICE BUILDING UP, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, NOT ONLY ON WARD FIVE, BUT UM, UM, CSC SNOW REMOVAL EFFORTS WERE, WERE LIKE NOT SUFFICIENT.

UH, AND THEN THE TOWN ULTIMATELY HAD TO STEP IN IT.

AND I JUST WANNA ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, I DO APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS AND MR. GALLOWAY, UM, JUST OUT THERE JUST PLOWING THE STREETS AND, YOU KNOW, TAKING THEIR TIME AND USING RESOURCES TO PLOW, YOU KNOW, WAR FIVE AS WELL.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHILE OUR PRIORITY SHOULD BE, AND ALWAYS WELL WELLBEING, THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF OUR RESIDENTS, UH, ESPECIALLY OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, UM, WE NEED TO, UM, HOW I SAY, UM, WE DO NEED TO, UH, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN THE TOWN DOES STEP STEPS IN, UM, IT DOES REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF TIME EQUIPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT, IT COSTS MONEY FOR THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST DI UH, DIVERTING AND CLIMB, UH, WARD FIVE.

UM, AND HONESTLY AVOID LIKE A REPEAT OF LAST YEAR'S SITUATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, PROACTIVELY AND ESTABLISH CLEAR EXPECTATIONS WITH CSA BEFORE THE WINTER SEASON BEGINS.

UH, WE, EXCUSE ME, UH, MAYBE WE COULD ALSO CONSIDER MR. GALLOWAY A A WHETHER WE SHOULD DO A FEE OR REIMBURSEMENT STRUCTURE, UH, WHERE WE COULD, UM, I GUESS IMPLEMENT ANY EVENT THAT THE TOWN DOES HAVE TO STEP IN FOR CHEVROLET STATION APARTMENT AND, YOU KNOW, PLOW THEIR STREETS AND SHOVE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR SIDEWALKS, UH, GIVE, IT'S JUST THE FOOD FOR THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE UPKEEP OF THE, UM, PROPERTY ULTIMATELY DOES FALL ON BRAS MANAGEMENT.

UM, BUT THAN THAT, I MEAN, I THINK JUST OVERALL, JUST THE, UH, THE GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE PROTECTED AND THAT THERE IS A CLEAR PLAN AND, AND TRANSPARENCY FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY COMING SEASONS.

YOU BET.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I AM CONCERNED THAT THERE'S NO AIR CONDITIONING TOMORROW AND IT'S GONNA BE 90 DEGREES.

UM, I, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.

I GUESS MY QUE FOLLOW ON QUESTION IS WHEN WILL THE HEAT BE TURNED ON? IS THAT MID-NOVEMBER THAT THAT'S DONE? UM, SO I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T TOUCHED BASE WITH WEB REGARDING THAT.

UM, BUT THE AC IS SHUT OFF AND IT TAKES MAYBE ABOUT 10 DAYS FOR THE KILLER TO FULLY TURN OFF.

UM, WE STILL HAVE THE FANS RUNNING WITHIN THE, UM, THE UNITS.

UM, IT'S NOT AS COOL.

YES, TODAY WAS 45 DEGREES.

UM, BUT, UM, OUR RESIDENTS ARE, THEY HAVE BEEN ADVISED TO REACH OUT, WHETHER THEY OR NOT THEY NEED A RIDE TO ANY, ANY COOLING STATIONS JUST FOR TOMORROW.

'CAUSE TEMPERATURES ARE STARTING TO DROP NEXT WEEK TO 66, UH, YOU KNOW, BELOW 75.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THIS PORTION OF THE, THE CHANGING OF SEASONS.

AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT, UM, MYSELF AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, FRY HAVE BEEN VERY, UH, DILIGENTLY, YOU KNOW, JUST SHARING THIS COMMUNICATION WITH OUR, WITH OUR RESIDENTS THAT WHEN COMES, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THIS, TO THIS, UH, TRANSITION OF SEASONS, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW HOW IT SOUNDS AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND IT'S BAD WHEN I SAY IT OUT LOUD, BUT I MEAN, WE, IT'S JUST A DAY OR TWO THAT WE HAVE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, RIDE IT.

UM, I WISH IT WAS DIFFERENT.

I WISH THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTROL THEIR OWN TEMPS, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH TOMORROW BEING IN THE HIGH EIGHTIES.

UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN AS WELL SHOULD, UM, AND THE COUNTY SHOULD, UM, UH, ARE SHOULD CONTINUE TO PUSH.

ALRIGHT, SO LET US MAKE SURE, UM, OR LET US, UH, MR. GALLOWAY SET UP A MEETING WITH CSA FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER OR EARLY NOVEMBER, UH, LIKE BETWEEN NOW AND MID-NOVEMBER IN ORDER TO DISCUSS THE WINTER AND WHAT THE TOWN'S EXPECTATIONS ARE.

NUMBER ONE IS THE HEAT, BUT ALSO IS THE SIDEWALK INTO OTHER, YOU KNOW, SAFETY ISSUES

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FOR THE WINTER MONTHS.

LAST WINTER WAS OBVIOUSLY PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS, UM, THROUGH NO FAULT OF ANYBODY, BUT, UM, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO HAVE A CLEAR MEETING WHERE WE, TO THEM, WHAT WE EXPECT THEM, HOW WE EXPECT THEM TO REACT TO WEATHER EVENTS ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

UH, OKAY.

ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS COUNSEL? YEAH, IF I CAN.

YES.

UH, COUNCILMAN GARZA, IT IS BEEN INDICATED TO ME BY CSA THAT THE VEHICLE THAT, UH, WAS CAUSING CONCERNS REGARDING PLUGGING UP DIRECTLY TO A UNIT HAS BEEN, UH, NOTIFIED THAT THEY SHOULDN'T DO THAT AND HAS BEEN, UM, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UH, THEY'RE NOT LIVING THERE ANYMORE.

HAVE, HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT VEHICLE DOING THAT ANYMORE, SIR? UM, I, I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T, SINCE I'M ABLE TO WALK AT THE MOMENT, , BUT, UH, RESIDENTS HAVE REPORTED NOT SEEING THE VEHICLE THERE.

YOU, IF YOU SEE IT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IT ACCORDINGLY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS REMINDS ME OF A ADMINISTRATOR ITEM.

WHEN WILL THE OTHER TWO VEHICLE CHARGERS OPEN HERE AT THE ELY BUILDING? ONE OF THEM IS OPEN.

THE OTHER TWO SAY THEY'RE CLOSED.

IS THE SIGN LYING? THE SIGN IS NOT LYING.

THE SIGN'S NOT LYING? NO.

NO, BECAUSE, UH, UH, I ACTUALLY TESTED ONE JUST MOMENTS AGO, , UM, .

AND SO THE OTHER TWO ARE OFFLINE? THEY ARE OFFLINE.

UH, THEY'LL GO LIVE ON MONDAY.

OH YEAH, I THINK WE, UH, THAT'S AWESOME.

I THINK WE DID KICK AROUND, UH, SOME LIMITED USE WINDOWS.

OKAY.

JUST TO KIND OF KEEP FOLKS OUT OF HARM'S WAY WITH ANY ANTICIPATED OVERSIZED VEHICLES THAT MAY COME DOWN.

YEAH.

UH, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY'LL FIND THAT THEY CAN PLUG AND CHARGE JUST FINE.

OH WOW.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ALRIGHT COUNSEL, THAT TAKES US TO FUTURE AGENDAS.

UH, THE NEXT, SO WE'RE GONNA MEET, UH, I GUESS THREE MORE TIMES IN OCTOBER.

UH, THE NEXT, WE'RE MEETING NEXT THURSDAY FOR THE TOWN MEETING.

I HAVE THE ETHICS RESOLUTION.

I HAVE THE BUDGET CALENDAR, WHICH I THINK WE WANTED TO DO BEFORE, LIKE IN A MEETING, EARLIER MEETING THAN THE MEETING WHERE WE DO A BUDGET AND AUDIT UPDATE.

IS THAT TRACK, MR. GALLOWAY? OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO ETHICS RESOLUTION WHERE WE APPOINT OUR ETHICS COMMISSION MEMBERS.

WE'LL GET A, WE'LL DISCUSS THE BUDGET CALENDAR, UH, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO, UH, CONSIDER ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THE CH VILLAGE GRANT AND THE CPRC GRANT.

AM I MISSING ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR NEXT THURSDAY? OKAY, YOU HAVE THE JOURNAL? YES, I HAVE IT HERE.

AND I SCRIBBLED, I CROSSED OFF BENGAL AND I ADDED THE TWO GRANTS.

OH YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

CAN YOU PASS THAT DOWN? UH, BACK TO THE CLERK.

OKAY.

SO THAT TAKES US TO THE 13TH.

MR. GALLOWAY AND MR. DELOACH WILL UPDATE US ON THE CLOSED MEETINGS, THE 13TH OR 14TH.

SO THOSE COUPLE DAYS RIGHT AFTER INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S DAY.

AND THEN WE ARE GONNA MEET ON THE 22ND FOR THE WORK SESSION.

UH, WE WILL GET A BUDGET AND AUDIT UPDATE.

SO MAYBE MR. DISC, OR MAYBE HE MR. DISC CAN GIVE YOU, UM, HIS NOTES.

WE ARE GONNA DISCUSS THE FEE SCHEDULE.

WE ARE GONNA DIS DISCUSS DEFERRED COMPENSATION.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS AT THE WORK SESSION THE 64TH AVENUE BRIDGE AND BANGAL ENGINEERING.

WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS FOREST ROAD EROSION AND WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS VERIZON CELLULAR FINGERS CROSSED AGAIN, PENDING THE AVAILABILITY OF OUR, UM, FRIENDS AT VERIZON.

AM I MISSING ANYTHING ELSE? EVERYONE, ANYONE ELSE TRACKING ANYTHING FOR THE 22ND? DON'T GO ANYWHERE CONSIDERING AN UPDATE FROM QUICK UPDATE ON GIC.

YEAH, JOHN'S GONNA BRING US A QUICK UPDATE ON THE GIC.

DAVID'S GONNA DO THAT? YES.

ALRIGHT.

WE KNOW DAVID'S GONNA DO THAT.

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UH, OKAY THEN, UH, I HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR THE NOVEMBER TOWN MEETING.

ONE IS THE CANDIDATE PROHIBITION, 12TH IS THE ADOPTION OF THE G-I-C-M-M-O-U.

OKAY.

THEN WE'RE GONNA MEET ON DECEMBER 1ST.

ABSOLUTELY.

FOR THE FINAL WORK SESSION OF THE YEAR.

WE'RE GONNA GET A BRIEFING FROM P-G-C-P-S ON THE HOYER DEMOLITION.

WE'RE GONNA, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BRIEF UPDATE US ON TRAFFIC STUDIES FOR THE HILL.

UH, WE ARE GONNA DISCUSS THE ARCHWAY FOR THE TRAIL THAT MENTIONS MAGRUDER.

HM.

SO ALTERING THE ARCHWAY AT THE TRAIL, UH, REGARDING THE NAMING OF THE SPRING AFTER MR. MCGRUDER.

YES.

AND THEN THE FOURTH ITEM I HAVE IS PERHAPS WE COULD GET AN UPDATE ON THE PITTS CHURCH BECAUSE THERE WAS A RUMOR THAT IT WOULD BE DONE MORE THAN A RUMOR, AN ASSERTION THAT IT WOULD BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO WE HAVE AN EMAIL ON THAT HAPPEN RIGHT NOW.

WE SHOULD HAVE IT BY THAT.

WE SHOULD HAVE A RESPONSE BY THEN.

OKAY, GREAT.

DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YES.

UH, WE DISCUSSED ABOUT THE ELECTION.

UM, WHEN CAN WE GO REVISIT IT ABOUT THE ELECTION? EITHER KEEPING IT ON THE SAME DATE AND PUSHING BACK WHEN PEOPLE ARE SWORN IN.

OUR CONCERNS ABOUT IT, ABOUT, UH, WHEN THE TIMING OF A NEW COUNCIL TO COME IN, UH, ESPECIALLY NOT PRIOR TO A, A BUDGET BEING VOTED ON.

UM, SO DO YOU WANNA DISCUSS IT AT A WORK SESSION? DISCUSS IT AT A WORK SESSION BEFORE WE ASK MR. DELOACH TO GO TRY HIS PEN AT SOMETHING? WELL, WE DISCUSSED IT ONCE ALREADY, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS IT AGAIN.

IT'S UP TO YOU.

OR WE CAN ASK MR. DELOACH TO WORK ON SOMETHING AND BRING IT TO US.

YES.

YES.

AND DISCUSS ANY, ANY OBJECTION TO THAT COUNSEL? ANYONE ONLINE? OBJECT TO THAT.

AND HE WOULD PRESENT IT TO US.

GO AHEAD MR. LOACH.

I THINK THAT WAS CHARLIE.

THAT WAS TRUE.

SO WILL HE THEN PRESENT IT TO, AT THE DECEMBER 1ST WORK SESSION? UH, THAT I'M GONNA WRITE THAT DOWN AND, UH, THAT'LL BE PENDING HIS WORKLOAD.

OKAY.

BUT, UH, MR. MR DELOACH CAN DO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE SOME DRAFT LANGUAGE ON ELECTION DATES AND SWEARING IN DATES.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? SURE.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER COUNSEL? ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS YEAR, SIR? NEVERMIND .

NO, GO AHEAD.

IT'S A SAFE SPACE.

ALRIGHT, SO, SO I, I GUESS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE, I, I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION, BUT IS THAT, IS THAT CLEAR AS TO, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ATTORNEY THE LOTION A A DIRECTIVE WITHOUT BEING CLEAR ON ON IT.

SO I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA ASK THEM TO DRAFT SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS ON YET.

I SEE YOUR POINT.

SO IT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED ALL.

SO MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A CONCRETE DISCUSSION ON IT.

WE WILL NOT ASK MR. DELO TO DRAFT ANYTHING, BUT WE WILL HAVE A, UH, BRASS TACK DISCUSSION ON ELECTION AND SWEARING IN DATES.

UM, AND WE CAN DO OUR OWN RESEARCH, UM, JUST ON WHERE THIS IS IN THE CHARTER VERSUS THE CODE AND WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO CHANGE.

WE CAN CRACK THAT, WE'LL CRACK THAT BOOK TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

'CAUSE I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

ALRIGHT, THAT IS FOR DECEMBER 1ST, WHICH IS THE FINAL WORK SESSION OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT, MR. GALLOWAY, ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

SEEING NO OTHER BUSINESS.

WE'RE ON TO ITEM 11.

ADJOURNMENT.

IS THERE A MOTION? THERE'S A MOTION.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

WAS WERE YOU, WERE YOU RAISING YOUR HAND TO MAKE A MOTION? YEAH.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

OKAY.

I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU WEREN'T, UH, DOING ANYTHING BEFORE THAT.

OKAY.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER GARCI MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER FRY SECONDED IT.

WE'LL GO WITH THAT.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO ADJOURN? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? I THINK THAT'S SIX ZERO.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND I WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE IN A WEEK.